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Re: MICE Congestion Issues

by David Farmer

On 9/18/13 17:58 , Anthony Anderberg wrote: > It looks like the Gigapop traffic has dropped in the past hour or two, I'm not sure if it's because their cluster is picking up more load like David mentioned or because of some time-of-day shift in user's connections. Probably both. I was just looking around and noticed like we pegged some links around our network this afternoon and had some other issues elsewhere. Nothing like the stress of an iOS update to find your week spots. :-[ > It looks like Hurricane traffic has picked up some, currently at about 5G egress. > The Akamai cluster and Core-to-CNS links are running at about 7G right now and I'm not seeing any queue drops. > > > Anthony Anderberg > Sr. Systems Analyst > 320-234-5239 > anthonyanderberg(a)nu-telecom.net -- ================================================ David Farmer Email: farmer(a)umn.edu Office of Information Technology University of Minnesota 2218 University Ave SE Phone: 1-612-626-0815 Minneapolis, MN 55414-3029 Cell: 1-612-812-9952 ================================================ ######################################################################## To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1

Sept. 19, 2013

Re: MICE Congestion Issues

by Radzwon, Tony

David, I may have an SFP you can use. If you stop by 511 this week let me know. Tony Radzwon Integra Telecom On Sep 18, 2013, at 5:17 PM, "David Farmer" <farmer(a)UMN.EDU> wrote: > I need to talk with Mike about moving the cross connect. If necessary I think I could do it yet today. But probably later this week or next week if that is ok. > > On 9/18/13 17:02 , Jay Hanke wrote: >> Yes, the traffic levels have come down between the switches. >> >> Farmer, what's your timeline on moving the Gigapop? It may be time to >> start thinking about n x 10G for several of these links. >> >> jay >> >> On Wed, Sep 18, 2013 at 4:52 PM, Hannigan, Martin <marty(a)akamai.com> wrote: >>> I'm not able to move at the near moment. I've pulled back some traffic. Are we still seeing drops? >>> >>> Best, >>> >>> Martin >>> >>> On Sep 18, 2013, at 17:40, "Mike Horwath" <drechsau(a)GEEKS.ORG> wrote: >>> >>>> On Wed, Sep 18, 2013 at 04:14:00PM -0500, Jeremy Lumby wrote: >>>>> The problem is X2 versus SFP+ optics. I would be happy to donate, >>>>> the problem is I only have X2 optics, and no SFP+ laying around. If >>>>> we moved the GigaPoP, that would solve the immediate problem, so the >>>>> trick would be if someone had one SFP+ module to facilitate the >>>>> move. >>>> >>>> Hmm.. >>>> >>>> Seems surmountable! >>>> >>>> -- >>>> Mike Horwath, reachable via drechsau(a)Geeks.ORG >>>> >>>> ######################################################################## >>>> >>>> To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: >>>> http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1 >>> >>> ######################################################################## >>> >>> To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: >>> http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1 > > > -- > ================================================ > David Farmer Email: farmer(a)umn.edu > Office of Information Technology > University of Minnesota > 2218 University Ave SE Phone: 1-612-626-0815 > Minneapolis, MN 55414-3029 Cell: 1-612-812-9952 > ================================================ > > ######################################################################## > > To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: > http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1 ######################################################################## To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1

Sept. 18, 2013

Re: MICE Congestion Issues

by Anthony Anderberg

It looks like the Gigapop traffic has dropped in the past hour or two, I'm not sure if it's because their cluster is picking up more load like David mentioned or because of some time-of-day shift in user's connections. It looks like Hurricane traffic has picked up some, currently at about 5G egress. The Akamai cluster and Core-to-CNS links are running at about 7G right now and I'm not seeing any queue drops. Anthony Anderberg Sr. Systems Analyst 320-234-5239 anthonyanderberg(a)nu-telecom.net -----Original Message----- From: MICE Discuss [mailto:MICE-DISCUSS@LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET] On Behalf Of David Farmer Sent: Wednesday, September 18, 2013 5:17 PM To: MICE-DISCUSS(a)LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET Subject: Re: [MICE-DISCUSS] MICE Congestion Issues I need to talk with Mike about moving the cross connect. If necessary I think I could do it yet today. But probably later this week or next week if that is ok. On 9/18/13 17:02 , Jay Hanke wrote: > Yes, the traffic levels have come down between the switches. > > Farmer, what's your timeline on moving the Gigapop? It may be time to > start thinking about n x 10G for several of these links. > > jay > > On Wed, Sep 18, 2013 at 4:52 PM, Hannigan, Martin <marty(a)akamai.com> wrote: >> I'm not able to move at the near moment. I've pulled back some traffic. Are we still seeing drops? >> >> Best, >> >> Martin >> >> On Sep 18, 2013, at 17:40, "Mike Horwath" <drechsau(a)GEEKS.ORG> wrote: >> >>> On Wed, Sep 18, 2013 at 04:14:00PM -0500, Jeremy Lumby wrote: >>>> The problem is X2 versus SFP+ optics. I would be happy to donate, >>>> the problem is I only have X2 optics, and no SFP+ laying around. >>>> If we moved the GigaPoP, that would solve the immediate problem, so >>>> the trick would be if someone had one SFP+ module to facilitate the >>>> move. >>> >>> Hmm.. >>> >>> Seems surmountable! >>> >>> -- >>> Mike Horwath, reachable via drechsau(a)Geeks.ORG >>> >>> #################################################################### >>> #### >>> >>> To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: >>> http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1 >> >> ##################################################################### >> ### >> >> To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: >> http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1 > > > -- ================================================ David Farmer Email: farmer(a)umn.edu Office of Information Technology University of Minnesota 2218 University Ave SE Phone: 1-612-626-0815 Minneapolis, MN 55414-3029 Cell: 1-612-812-9952 ================================================ ######################################################################## To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1 ######################################################################## To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1

Sept. 18, 2013

Re: MICE Congestion Issues

by David Farmer

I need to talk with Mike about moving the cross connect. If necessary I think I could do it yet today. But probably later this week or next week if that is ok. On 9/18/13 17:02 , Jay Hanke wrote: > Yes, the traffic levels have come down between the switches. > > Farmer, what's your timeline on moving the Gigapop? It may be time to > start thinking about n x 10G for several of these links. > > jay > > On Wed, Sep 18, 2013 at 4:52 PM, Hannigan, Martin <marty(a)akamai.com> wrote: >> I'm not able to move at the near moment. I've pulled back some traffic. Are we still seeing drops? >> >> Best, >> >> Martin >> >> On Sep 18, 2013, at 17:40, "Mike Horwath" <drechsau(a)GEEKS.ORG> wrote: >> >>> On Wed, Sep 18, 2013 at 04:14:00PM -0500, Jeremy Lumby wrote: >>>> The problem is X2 versus SFP+ optics. I would be happy to donate, >>>> the problem is I only have X2 optics, and no SFP+ laying around. If >>>> we moved the GigaPoP, that would solve the immediate problem, so the >>>> trick would be if someone had one SFP+ module to facilitate the >>>> move. >>> >>> Hmm.. >>> >>> Seems surmountable! >>> >>> -- >>> Mike Horwath, reachable via drechsau(a)Geeks.ORG >>> >>> ######################################################################## >>> >>> To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: >>> http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1 >> >> ######################################################################## >> >> To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: >> http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1 > > > -- ================================================ David Farmer Email: farmer(a)umn.edu Office of Information Technology University of Minnesota 2218 University Ave SE Phone: 1-612-626-0815 Minneapolis, MN 55414-3029 Cell: 1-612-812-9952 ================================================ ######################################################################## To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1

Sept. 18, 2013

Re: MICE Congestion Issues

by Jay Hanke

Yes, the traffic levels have come down between the switches. Farmer, what's your timeline on moving the Gigapop? It may be time to start thinking about n x 10G for several of these links. jay On Wed, Sep 18, 2013 at 4:52 PM, Hannigan, Martin <marty(a)akamai.com> wrote: > I'm not able to move at the near moment. I've pulled back some traffic. Are we still seeing drops? > > Best, > > Martin > > On Sep 18, 2013, at 17:40, "Mike Horwath" <drechsau(a)GEEKS.ORG> wrote: > >> On Wed, Sep 18, 2013 at 04:14:00PM -0500, Jeremy Lumby wrote: >>> The problem is X2 versus SFP+ optics. I would be happy to donate, >>> the problem is I only have X2 optics, and no SFP+ laying around. If >>> we moved the GigaPoP, that would solve the immediate problem, so the >>> trick would be if someone had one SFP+ module to facilitate the >>> move. >> >> Hmm.. >> >> Seems surmountable! >> >> -- >> Mike Horwath, reachable via drechsau(a)Geeks.ORG >> >> ######################################################################## >> >> To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: >> http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1 > > ######################################################################## > > To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: > http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1 -- Jay Hanke CTO, CCIE #19093 Mankato Networks LLC PO Box 54 619 S Front St Mankato, MN 56001-3838 Google 530-618-2398 jayhanke(a)mankatonetworks.net http://www.mankatonetworks.com http://www.neutralpath.net ######################################################################## To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1

Sept. 18, 2013

Re: MICE Congestion Issues

by Hannigan, Martin

I'm not able to move at the near moment. I've pulled back some traffic. Are we still seeing drops? Best, Martin On Sep 18, 2013, at 17:40, "Mike Horwath" <drechsau(a)GEEKS.ORG> wrote: > On Wed, Sep 18, 2013 at 04:14:00PM -0500, Jeremy Lumby wrote: >> The problem is X2 versus SFP+ optics. I would be happy to donate, >> the problem is I only have X2 optics, and no SFP+ laying around. If >> we moved the GigaPoP, that would solve the immediate problem, so the >> trick would be if someone had one SFP+ module to facilitate the >> move. > > Hmm.. > > Seems surmountable! > > -- > Mike Horwath, reachable via drechsau(a)Geeks.ORG > > ######################################################################## > > To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: > http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1 ######################################################################## To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1

Sept. 18, 2013

Re: MICE Congestion Issues

by David Farmer

I'd be happy to move the GigaPOP to the main switch, I'll look at getting a SFP+. I think I have one I can borrow from our Infinera equipment as well. However, this is just iOS7, this happened with iOS6 last year too, at first we pulled it from the MICE Akamai nodes and then it shifted to our local nodes. I'm not sure why, but that's the way it seems to work. Thanks On 9/18/13 16:14 , Jeremy Lumby wrote: > The problem is X2 versus SFP+ optics. I would be happy to donate, the problem is I only have X2 optics, and no SFP+ laying around. If we moved the GigaPoP, that would solve the immediate problem, so the trick would be if someone had one SFP+ module to facilitate the move. > > > -----Original Message----- > From: MICE Discuss [mailto:MICE-DISCUSS@LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET] On Behalf Of Mike Horwath > Sent: Wednesday, September 18, 2013 3:59 PM > To: MICE-DISCUSS(a)LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET > Subject: Re: [MICE-DISCUSS] MICE Congestion Issues > > On Sep 18, 2013, at 2:51 PM, Richard Laager <rlaager(a)WIKTEL.COM> wrote: > >> On Wed, 2013-09-18 at 14:47 -0500, Steve Howard wrote: >>> Wouldn't it make more sense to move Akamai to the CNS switch? i.e. >>> Move one instead of two? The GigaPOP and HE both purchased their >>> optics, so that could also become a factor in any changes. >> >> It seems to me like it'd make more sense to have the big networks at >> the main switch, since then the connection to CNS only needs to >> support the bandwidth needs of CNS and others on that switch. Thus, >> for now, the single 10Gig between the CNS switch and main switch should be fine. > > I agree. > > Move them to the main switch as it gets it closer to more participants. > > Optics may just move and be compatible. > > Agree on the LAG/LACP config for Akamai as well *on the main switch*. > > -- > Mike Horwath, reachable via drechsau(a)Geeks.ORG > > ######################################################################## > > To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: > http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1 > > ######################################################################## > > To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: > http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1 > -- ================================================ David Farmer Email: farmer(a)umn.edu Office of Information Technology University of Minnesota 2218 University Ave SE Phone: 1-612-626-0815 Minneapolis, MN 55414-3029 Cell: 1-612-812-9952 ================================================ ######################################################################## To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1

Sept. 18, 2013

Re: MICE Congestion Issues

by Mike Horwath

On Wed, Sep 18, 2013 at 04:14:00PM -0500, Jeremy Lumby wrote: > The problem is X2 versus SFP+ optics. I would be happy to donate, > the problem is I only have X2 optics, and no SFP+ laying around. If > we moved the GigaPoP, that would solve the immediate problem, so the > trick would be if someone had one SFP+ module to facilitate the > move. Hmm.. Seems surmountable! -- Mike Horwath, reachable via drechsau(a)Geeks.ORG ######################################################################## To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1

Sept. 18, 2013

Re: MICE Congestion Issues

by Jeremy Lumby

The problem is X2 versus SFP+ optics. I would be happy to donate, the problem is I only have X2 optics, and no SFP+ laying around. If we moved the GigaPoP, that would solve the immediate problem, so the trick would be if someone had one SFP+ module to facilitate the move. -----Original Message----- From: MICE Discuss [mailto:MICE-DISCUSS@LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET] On Behalf Of Mike Horwath Sent: Wednesday, September 18, 2013 3:59 PM To: MICE-DISCUSS(a)LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET Subject: Re: [MICE-DISCUSS] MICE Congestion Issues On Sep 18, 2013, at 2:51 PM, Richard Laager <rlaager(a)WIKTEL.COM> wrote: > On Wed, 2013-09-18 at 14:47 -0500, Steve Howard wrote: >> Wouldn't it make more sense to move Akamai to the CNS switch? i.e. >> Move one instead of two? The GigaPOP and HE both purchased their >> optics, so that could also become a factor in any changes. > > It seems to me like it'd make more sense to have the big networks at > the main switch, since then the connection to CNS only needs to > support the bandwidth needs of CNS and others on that switch. Thus, > for now, the single 10Gig between the CNS switch and main switch should be fine. I agree. Move them to the main switch as it gets it closer to more participants. Optics may just move and be compatible. Agree on the LAG/LACP config for Akamai as well *on the main switch*. -- Mike Horwath, reachable via drechsau(a)Geeks.ORG ######################################################################## To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1 ######################################################################## To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1

Sept. 18, 2013

Re: MICE Congestion Issues

by Mike Horwath

On Sep 18, 2013, at 2:51 PM, Richard Laager <rlaager(a)WIKTEL.COM> wrote: > On Wed, 2013-09-18 at 14:47 -0500, Steve Howard wrote: >> Wouldn't it make more sense to move Akamai to the CNS switch? i.e. >> Move one instead of two? The GigaPOP and HE both purchased their >> optics, so that could also become a factor in any changes. > > It seems to me like it'd make more sense to have the big networks at the > main switch, since then the connection to CNS only needs to support the > bandwidth needs of CNS and others on that switch. Thus, for now, the > single 10Gig between the CNS switch and main switch should be fine. I agree. Move them to the main switch as it gets it closer to more participants. Optics may just move and be compatible. Agree on the LAG/LACP config for Akamai as well *on the main switch*. -- Mike Horwath, reachable via drechsau(a)Geeks.ORG ######################################################################## To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1

Sept. 18, 2013