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Re: Googling on IPv6 and HE to 20G

by Hannigan, Martin

How much are your cross connect fees? On Dec 31, 2014, at 11:13, Larry Patterson <larry(a)ATOMICDATA.COM<mailto:larry@ATOMICDATA.COM>> wrote: I would like to offer an alternative. Atomic Data (an existing MICE participant) operates a carrier-neutral colocation facility in the old Federal Reserve Bank building (250 Marquette Ave, Minneapolis, MN). We have over 15,000 sq ft of raised floor data center space enclosed inside of the old vault. We have established a carrier-neutral meet-me cage and have brought in fiber optic facilities from XO, CenturyLink (QCC and QC), Time Warner Telecom, Cogent, Level3, and Comcast thus far. Our model is very similar to what would be available at 511. Customers can order cross-connects to any carrier in our facility. I would like to propose that Atomic Data will donate to MICE a free cabinet in our data center with power included. Any current or future customer of Atomic will be provided a free copper-based gigabit cross connect to a MICE switch located in this cabinet upon request. Please let me know of your interest in this offer. Happy New Years! Thanks, Larry Patterson Larry Patterson Chief Technology Officer ---- Atomic Data // Safe. Simple. Smart. 615 North 3rd Street Minneapolis, MN 55401 Main // 612.466.2000 Direct // 612.466.2080 Facebook<http://www.facebook.com/AtomicDataCenters> // Twitter<http://twitter.com/AtomicData> // LinkedIn<http://www.linkedin.com/company/atomic-data> On 12/30/14, 4:08 PM, "Jake" <jake.lubitz(a)ENVENTIS.COM<mailto:jake.lubitz@ENVENTIS.COM>> wrote: >Greetings > >Just wanted to bump this discussion. > >I just had a conversation with a VP with DataBank, a data center service >provider here in the Twin Cities metro, about MICE and the current state >of the exchange. During that conversation, I had mentioned that the >exchange is looking to grow into a secondary site and that the exchange >was in the very preliminary stages of discussing a new site. > >As a result of this conversation, they expressed a lot of interest in >donating space, power, and cross-connect services out of their brand new >facility in Eagan for a secondary leaf site for MICE. They said they >could possibly assist in locating some dark fiber between the two sites >as well if the exchange decided to go with DataBank for their secondary >site. > >This Eagan site has close proximity to the AccessEagan network as well as >a number of providers that may be interested in participating in the >exchange. > >Below is a link showing where this facility is located: > >https://www.google.com/maps/place/3255+Neil+Armstrong+Blvd,+Eagan,+MN+5512 >1/@44.841549,-93.1413613,12z/data=!4m2!3m1!1s0x87f62dae5be6f9d5:0x86bc90d8 >9c3d37da > >I emphasized that the exchange is in the very early stages of discussion >about a secondary site. I also mentioned that the exchange is hosting an >user group here on January 14th. DataBank would be very interested in >dialing into the conference bridge to talk about what they have to offer. > >If this is something that the exchange would like to pursue, please let >me know and I can forward along the user group conference bridge >information to the proper DataBank personnel. DataBank also mentioned >that they would be able to provide a tour of the new facility during the >early part of the third week of January if there¹s any interest in >checking out the new facility. > >Thoughts? > >Thanks in advance. > >Jake ________________________________ To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1

Dec. 31, 2014

Re: Googling on IPv6 and HE to 20G

by Larry Patterson

I would like to offer an alternative. Atomic Data (an existing MICE participant) operates a carrier-neutral colocation facility in the old Federal Reserve Bank building (250 Marquette Ave, Minneapolis, MN). We have over 15,000 sq ft of raised floor data center space enclosed inside of the old vault. We have established a carrier-neutral meet-me cage and have brought in fiber optic facilities from XO, CenturyLink (QCC and QC), Time Warner Telecom, Cogent, Level3, and Comcast thus far. Our model is very similar to what would be available at 511. Customers can order cross-connects to any carrier in our facility. I would like to propose that Atomic Data will donate to MICE a free cabinet in our data center with power included. Any current or future customer of Atomic will be provided a free copper-based gigabit cross connect to a MICE switch located in this cabinet upon request. Please let me know of your interest in this offer. Happy New Years! Thanks, Larry Patterson Larry Patterson Chief Technology Officer ---- Atomic Data // Safe. Simple. Smart. 615 North 3rd Street Minneapolis, MN 55401 Main // 612.466.2000 Direct // 612.466.2080 Facebook<http://www.facebook.com/AtomicDataCenters> // Twitter<http://twitter.com/AtomicData> // LinkedIn<http://www.linkedin.com/company/atomic-data> On 12/30/14, 4:08 PM, "Jake" <jake.lubitz(a)ENVENTIS.COM> wrote: >Greetings > >Just wanted to bump this discussion. > >I just had a conversation with a VP with DataBank, a data center service >provider here in the Twin Cities metro, about MICE and the current state >of the exchange. During that conversation, I had mentioned that the >exchange is looking to grow into a secondary site and that the exchange >was in the very preliminary stages of discussing a new site. > >As a result of this conversation, they expressed a lot of interest in >donating space, power, and cross-connect services out of their brand new >facility in Eagan for a secondary leaf site for MICE. They said they >could possibly assist in locating some dark fiber between the two sites >as well if the exchange decided to go with DataBank for their secondary >site. > >This Eagan site has close proximity to the AccessEagan network as well as >a number of providers that may be interested in participating in the >exchange. > >Below is a link showing where this facility is located: > >https://www.google.com/maps/place/3255+Neil+Armstrong+Blvd,+Eagan,+MN+5512 >1/@44.841549,-93.1413613,12z/data=!4m2!3m1!1s0x87f62dae5be6f9d5:0x86bc90d8 >9c3d37da > >I emphasized that the exchange is in the very early stages of discussion >about a secondary site. I also mentioned that the exchange is hosting an >user group here on January 14th. DataBank would be very interested in >dialing into the conference bridge to talk about what they have to offer. > >If this is something that the exchange would like to pursue, please let >me know and I can forward along the user group conference bridge >information to the proper DataBank personnel. DataBank also mentioned >that they would be able to provide a tour of the new facility during the >early part of the third week of January if there¹s any interest in >checking out the new facility. > >Thoughts? > >Thanks in advance. > >Jake

Dec. 31, 2014

Re: Googling on IPv6 and HE to 20G

by Hannigan, Martin

This is great. Nice work. I find that this is very common when a successful exchange is in the market. It's in the exchanges interest to be neutral and never do exclusivity agreements and to populate competing data centers if it makes sense. In this case, I believe the cross connect pricing might be in play and become "attractive" to some parties and have a positive effect on others. Still would like to also see emphasis on the VPLS/PVLAN service so we can all avoid a few xcon fees. Best, -M< On Dec 30, 2014, at 5:02 PM, Jake Lubitz <Jake.Lubitz(a)ENVENTIS.COM> wrote: > Greetings > > Just wanted to bump this discussion. > > I just had a conversation with a VP with DataBank, a data center service provider here in the Twin Cities metro, about MICE and the current state of the exchange. During that conversation, I had mentioned that the exchange is looking to grow into a secondary site and that the exchange was in the very preliminary stages of discussing a new site. > > As a result of this conversation, they expressed a lot of interest in donating space, power, and cross-connect services out of their brand new facility in Eagan for a secondary leaf site for MICE. They said they could also assist in locating some dark fiber between the two sites as well if the exchange decided to go with DataBank for their secondary site. > > This Eagan site has close proximity to the AccessEagan network as well as a number of providers that may be interested in participating in the exchange. > > Below is a link showing where this facility is located: > > https://www.google.com/maps/place/3255+Neil+Armstrong+Blvd,+Eagan,+MN+55121… > > I emphasized that the exchange is in the very early stages of discussion about a secondary site. I also mentioned that the exchange is hosting an user group here on January 14th. DataBank would be very interested in dialing into the conference bridge to talk about what they have to offer. > > If this is something that the exchange would like to pursue, please let me know and I can forward along the user group conference bridge information to the proper DataBank personnel. DataBank also mentioned that they would be able to provide a tour of the new facility during the early part of the third week of January if there’s any interest in checking out the new facility. > > Thoughts? > > Thanks in advance. > > Jake > > <image001.jpg> > Jake Lubitz | Network Engineer – Core IP & Access > Enventis | a Consolidated Communications Company, NASDAQ : CNSL > 7700 France Ave S., Suite 175N, Edina, MN 55435 > tel: 612-314-2204 | fax: 612-314-2304 |Email: jake.lubitz(a)enventis.com > P please consider the environment before printing this e-mail > > NOTICE: This electronic mail transmission may contain confidential information and is intended only for the person(s) named. Any use, copying or disclosure by any other person is strictly prohibited. If you have received this transmission in error, please delete this message and notify the sender via email. > > > > > From: MICE Discuss [mailto:MICE-DISCUSS@LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET] On Behalf OfHannigan, Martin > Sent: Friday, December 05, 2014 5:18 PM > To: MICE-DISCUSS(a)LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET > Subject: Re: [MICE-DISCUSS] Googling on IPv6 and HE to 20G > > > We'll disagree and leave it at that. > > Best, > > -M< > > > > On Dec 5, 2014, at 18:12, Reid Fishler <rfishler(a)HE.NET> wrote: > > Money will ALWAYS be able to buy fiber. Heck, Jay can plow it for us if the $'s get high enough. My point just was that I don't think someone will give us fiber between sites, a system to support said fiber channels, and the rack/space/etc. I welcome someone if they want to do so...we are not married to one site, just looking at the honest facts. > > Reid > > On Fri, Dec 5, 2014 at 6:09 PM, Mike Horwath <drechsau(a)geeks.org> wrote: > On Fri, Dec 05, 2014 at 04:39:07PM -0500, Reid Fishler wrote: > > Dark fiber in MSP isn't plentiful. I wish it was! > > I can't agree with this. > > I would change it to: Dark fiber in MSP isn't plentiful in an > affordable fashion. > > Cause that's the issue. When Zayo wants $5K to run from 2nd Ave S and > 4 St to 511 you know something is up and it ain't the fiber. > > (this is directly a quote from Zayo for a single pair even though AFS > was across the aisle and of the <billion> fibers there almost nothing > was lit on the panel that I could see) > > -- > Mike Horwath, reachable via drechsau(a)Geeks.ORG > > > > > -- > Reid Fishler > Director > Hurricane Electric > +1-510-580-4178 > > To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: > http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1 > > > To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: > http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1 > > > To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: > http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1 >

Dec. 30, 2014

Re: Googling on IPv6 and HE to 20G

by Reid Fishler

If they would operate in a neutral way, I would welcome it... Reid On Dec 30, 2014 5:08 PM, "Jake" <jake.lubitz(a)enventis.com> wrote: > Greetings > > Just wanted to bump this discussion. > > I just had a conversation with a VP with DataBank, a data center service > provider here in the Twin Cities metro, about MICE and the current state of > the exchange. During that conversation, I had mentioned that the exchange > is looking to grow into a secondary site and that the exchange was in the > very preliminary stages of discussing a new site. > > As a result of this conversation, they expressed a lot of interest in > donating space, power, and cross-connect services out of their brand new > facility in Eagan for a secondary leaf site for MICE. They said they could > possibly assist in locating some dark fiber between the two sites as well > if the exchange decided to go with DataBank for their secondary site. > > This Eagan site has close proximity to the AccessEagan network as well as > a number of providers that may be interested in participating in the > exchange. > > Below is a link showing where this facility is located: > > > https://www.google.com/maps/place/3255+Neil+Armstrong+Blvd,+Eagan,+MN+55121… > > I emphasized that the exchange is in the very early stages of discussion > about a secondary site. I also mentioned that the exchange is hosting an > user group here on January 14th. DataBank would be very interested in > dialing into the conference bridge to talk about what they have to offer. > > If this is something that the exchange would like to pursue, please let me > know and I can forward along the user group conference bridge information > to the proper DataBank personnel. DataBank also mentioned that they would > be able to provide a tour of the new facility during the early part of the > third week of January if there’s any interest in checking out the new > facility. > > Thoughts? > > Thanks in advance. > > Jake > >

Dec. 30, 2014

Re: Googling on IPv6 and HE to 20G

by Jake

Greetings Just wanted to bump this discussion. I just had a conversation with a VP with DataBank, a data center service provider here in the Twin Cities metro, about MICE and the current state of the exchange. During that conversation, I had mentioned that the exchange is looking to grow into a secondary site and that the exchange was in the very preliminary stages of discussing a new site. As a result of this conversation, they expressed a lot of interest in donating space, power, and cross-connect services out of their brand new facility in Eagan for a secondary leaf site for MICE. They said they could possibly assist in locating some dark fiber between the two sites as well if the exchange decided to go with DataBank for their secondary site. This Eagan site has close proximity to the AccessEagan network as well as a number of providers that may be interested in participating in the exchange. Below is a link showing where this facility is located: https://www.google.com/maps/place/3255+Neil+Armstrong+Blvd,+Eagan,+MN+55121… I emphasized that the exchange is in the very early stages of discussion about a secondary site. I also mentioned that the exchange is hosting an user group here on January 14th. DataBank would be very interested in dialing into the conference bridge to talk about what they have to offer. If this is something that the exchange would like to pursue, please let me know and I can forward along the user group conference bridge information to the proper DataBank personnel. DataBank also mentioned that they would be able to provide a tour of the new facility during the early part of the third week of January if there’s any interest in checking out the new facility. Thoughts? Thanks in advance. Jake

Dec. 30, 2014

Re: Googling on IPv6 and HE to 20G

by Jake Lubitz

Greetings Just wanted to bump this discussion. I just had a conversation with a VP with DataBank, a data center service provider here in the Twin Cities metro, about MICE and the current state of the exchange. During that conversation, I had mentioned that the exchange is looking to grow into a secondary site and that the exchange was in the very preliminary stages of discussing a new site. As a result of this conversation, they expressed a lot of interest in donating space, power, and cross-connect services out of their brand new facility in Eagan for a secondary leaf site for MICE. They said they could also assist in locating some dark fiber between the two sites as well if the exchange decided to go with DataBank for their secondary site. This Eagan site has close proximity to the AccessEagan network as well as a number of providers that may be interested in participating in the exchange. Below is a link showing where this facility is located: https://www.google.com/maps/place/3255+Neil+Armstrong+Blvd,+Eagan,+MN+55121… I emphasized that the exchange is in the very early stages of discussion about a secondary site. I also mentioned that the exchange is hosting an user group here on January 14th. DataBank would be very interested in dialing into the conference bridge to talk about what they have to offer. If this is something that the exchange would like to pursue, please let me know and I can forward along the user group conference bridge information to the proper DataBank personnel. DataBank also mentioned that they would be able to provide a tour of the new facility during the early part of the third week of January if there’s any interest in checking out the new facility. Thoughts? Thanks in advance. Jake [cid:image001.jpg@01D02449.F2BC65B0] Jake Lubitz | Network Engineer – Core IP & Access Enventis<http://www.enventis.com/> | a Consolidated Communications Company, NASDAQ : CNSL 7700 France Ave S., Suite 175N, Edina, MN 55435 tel: 612-314-2204 | fax: 612-314-2304 | Email: jake.lubitz(a)enventis.com<mailto:jake.lubitz@enventis.com> P please consider the environment before printing this e-mail ________________________________ NOTICE: This electronic mail transmission may contain confidential information and is intended only for the person(s) named. Any use, copying or disclosure by any other person is strictly prohibited. If you have received this transmission in error, please delete this message and notify the sender via email. From: MICE Discuss [mailto:MICE-DISCUSS@LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET] On Behalf Of Hannigan, Martin Sent: Friday, December 05, 2014 5:18 PM To: MICE-DISCUSS(a)LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET Subject: Re: [MICE-DISCUSS] Googling on IPv6 and HE to 20G We'll disagree and leave it at that. Best, -M< On Dec 5, 2014, at 18:12, Reid Fishler <rfishler(a)HE.NET<mailto:rfishler@HE.NET>> wrote: Money will ALWAYS be able to buy fiber. Heck, Jay can plow it for us if the $'s get high enough. My point just was that I don't think someone will give us fiber between sites, a system to support said fiber channels, and the rack/space/etc. I welcome someone if they want to do so...we are not married to one site, just looking at the honest facts. Reid On Fri, Dec 5, 2014 at 6:09 PM, Mike Horwath <drechsau(a)geeks.org<mailto:drechsau@geeks.org>> wrote: On Fri, Dec 05, 2014 at 04:39:07PM -0500, Reid Fishler wrote: > Dark fiber in MSP isn't plentiful. I wish it was! I can't agree with this. I would change it to: Dark fiber in MSP isn't plentiful in an affordable fashion. Cause that's the issue. When Zayo wants $5K to run from 2nd Ave S and 4 St to 511 you know something is up and it ain't the fiber. (this is directly a quote from Zayo for a single pair even though AFS was across the aisle and of the <billion> fibers there almost nothing was lit on the panel that I could see) -- Mike Horwath, reachable via drechsau(a)Geeks.ORG<mailto:drechsau@Geeks.ORG> -- Reid Fishler Director Hurricane Electric +1-510-580-4178 ________________________________ To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1 ________________________________ To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1

Dec. 30, 2014

Re: UG 15 Reminder

by Jason Hanke

It might be good to consider a local volunteer to help get it coordinated. >From experience, the UG meeting days are pretty hectic for the SC members. Also, having a hangout in a calendar invite a week or so before should boost remote attendance. On Fri, Dec 26, 2014 at 11:03 AM, Shaun Carlson <shaun.carlson(a)arvig.com> wrote: > We talked about that after the last meeting. I'll revisit with Mike and > we'll get something working. > > s > > > Shaun Carlson > Senior Manager of Information Technology | Arvig > ph: (218) 346-8673 | em: shaun.carlson(a)arvig.com > > On Fri, Dec 26, 2014 at 10:59 AM, Jason Hanke <jayhanke(a)neutralpath.net> > wrote: >> >> There has been a couple of requests for remote participation. >> >> Would it be possible to get a hard wired connection in the cafeteria? >> >> On Fri, Dec 26, 2014 at 10:47 AM, Shaun Carlson <shaun.carlson(a)arvig.com> >> wrote: >> > All, >> > >> > Just a quick reminder that UG 15 is coming up on Wednesday, January >> > 14th. >> > >> > It will be at 4:00 PM at the 511 Building Cafeteria. >> > >> > Please send me any agenda items you may have. Also, please let me know >> > if >> > you will be attending remotely. >> > >> > Thanks and I'll see you all there! >> > >> > s >> > >> > Shaun Carlson >> > Senior Manager of Information Technology | Arvig >> > ph: (218) 346-8673 | em: shaun.carlson(a)arvig.com >> > >> > ________________________________ >> > >> > To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: >> > http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1 >> >> >> >> -- >> Jay Hanke >> CTO >> Neutral Path Communications >> 3 Civic Center Plaza, Suite 204 >> Mankato, MN 56001 >> (507) 327-2398 mobile >> jayhanke(a)neutralpath.net >> www.neutralpath.net > > > > ________________________________ > > To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: > http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1 -- Jay Hanke CTO Neutral Path Communications 3 Civic Center Plaza, Suite 204 Mankato, MN 56001 (507) 327-2398 mobile jayhanke(a)neutralpath.net www.neutralpath.net

Dec. 26, 2014

Re: UG 15 Reminder

by Shaun Carlson

We talked about that after the last meeting. I'll revisit with Mike and we'll get something working. s *Shaun Carlson*Senior Manager of Information Technology | Arvig ph: (218) 346-8673 | em: shaun.carlson(a)arvig.com On Fri, Dec 26, 2014 at 10:59 AM, Jason Hanke <jayhanke(a)neutralpath.net> wrote: > There has been a couple of requests for remote participation. > > Would it be possible to get a hard wired connection in the cafeteria? > > On Fri, Dec 26, 2014 at 10:47 AM, Shaun Carlson <shaun.carlson(a)arvig.com> > wrote: > > All, > > > > Just a quick reminder that UG 15 is coming up on Wednesday, January 14th. > > > > It will be at 4:00 PM at the 511 Building Cafeteria. > > > > Please send me any agenda items you may have. Also, please let me know > if > > you will be attending remotely. > > > > Thanks and I'll see you all there! > > > > s > > > > Shaun Carlson > > Senior Manager of Information Technology | Arvig > > ph: (218) 346-8673 | em: shaun.carlson(a)arvig.com > > > > ________________________________ > > > > To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: > > http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1 > > > > -- > Jay Hanke > CTO > Neutral Path Communications > 3 Civic Center Plaza, Suite 204 > Mankato, MN 56001 > (507) 327-2398 mobile > jayhanke(a)neutralpath.net > www.neutralpath.net >

Dec. 26, 2014

Re: UG 15 Reminder

by Jason Hanke

There has been a couple of requests for remote participation. Would it be possible to get a hard wired connection in the cafeteria? On Fri, Dec 26, 2014 at 10:47 AM, Shaun Carlson <shaun.carlson(a)arvig.com> wrote: > All, > > Just a quick reminder that UG 15 is coming up on Wednesday, January 14th. > > It will be at 4:00 PM at the 511 Building Cafeteria. > > Please send me any agenda items you may have. Also, please let me know if > you will be attending remotely. > > Thanks and I'll see you all there! > > s > > Shaun Carlson > Senior Manager of Information Technology | Arvig > ph: (218) 346-8673 | em: shaun.carlson(a)arvig.com > > ________________________________ > > To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: > http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1 -- Jay Hanke CTO Neutral Path Communications 3 Civic Center Plaza, Suite 204 Mankato, MN 56001 (507) 327-2398 mobile jayhanke(a)neutralpath.net www.neutralpath.net

Dec. 26, 2014

UG 15 Reminder

by Shaun Carlson

All, Just a quick reminder that UG 15 is coming up on Wednesday, January 14th. It will be at 4:00 PM at the 511 Building Cafeteria. Please send me any agenda items you may have. Also, please let me know if you will be attending remotely. Thanks and I'll see you all there! s *Shaun Carlson*Senior Manager of Information Technology | Arvig ph: (218) 346-8673 | em: shaun.carlson(a)arvig.com

Dec. 26, 2014