October 2011 - mice-discuss - lists.micemn.net

Re: FYI: Hurricane Electric changed to 10Gig

by David Farmer

It ticket is in queue for to the the prefixed added, it went in 7:00pm Friday. I expect it will get done Monday sometime. Yesterday, was a great day, the GOPHERS beat the Hawkeyes, and got to keep Floyd of Rosedale for another year. YEA!!!! :) Today sucked, router fall down and go BOOM!!! :( I'm getting silly, time to go now!!! On 10/30/11 10:52 CDT, Justin Krejci wrote: > Dave is getting that ball rolling already on his side. So I think by Monday we should be able to take a look and do any AS padding or other tuning if necessary and then have Marty open it back up again to full speed. > > > ------Original Message------ > From: Jay Hanke > Sender: MICE Discuss > To: MICE-DISCUSS(a)LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET > ReplyTo: MICE Discuss > Subject: Re: [MICE-DISCUSS] FYI: Hurricane Electric changed to 10Gig > Sent: Oct 30, 2011 10:32 AM > > On Sun, Oct 30, 2011 at 10:29 AM, Mike Wilker<mwilker(a)jagcom.net> wrote: >> The last I saw from Mr. Farmer was that they were talking to Akamai about >> the UofM providing the needed bandwidth. Should we be waiting for the >> results of that before seeing about other members chipping in? > > Dave is planning to open up some of their peering connections to help. > We're going to need more to keep up with growth even if the new > connection offloads 50%, we're still just about full. > > Jay > > ######################################################################## > > To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: > http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1 > > > ######################################################################## > > To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: > http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1 -- =============================================== David Farmer Email:farmer@umn.edu Networking & Telecommunication Services Office of Information Technology University of Minnesota 2218 University Ave SE Phone: 612-626-0815 Minneapolis, MN 55414-3029 Cell: 612-812-9952 =============================================== ######################################################################## To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1

Oct. 31, 2011

Northern Light Gigapop Outage

by David Farmer

We were making some scheduled changes this morning between 04:00 and 08:00, this caused the TCAM to blow on our router connected to MICE. We were partially recovered by about 12:30. However, we didn't get our MICE connectivity fixed until after rebooting that router, at about 15:00. We had a P1 case open with Cisco, and wanted them to pull as much info out of it before rebooting it. I know some of you probably got trouble tickets from this, we're sorry. And we'll try not to make the same mistakes again, but I can't promise we won't make new mistakes. ;) -- =============================================== David Farmer Email:farmer@umn.edu Networking & Telecommunication Services Office of Information Technology University of Minnesota 2218 University Ave SE Phone: 612-626-0815 Minneapolis, MN 55414-3029 Cell: 612-812-9952 =============================================== ######################################################################## To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1

Oct. 31, 2011

Re: FYI: Hurricane Electric changed to 10Gig

by Jay Hanke

On Sun, Oct 30, 2011 at 12:17 PM, Justin Krejci <jkrejci(a)usinternet.com> wrote: > More or less, yes depending on how much bandwidth demand actually increases. > That said I think we should just wait for a bit and see what the demand > looks like over the next week. I've been upgrading all of USI's transit > links to 10 gig links (almost done) and so we will have some excess capacity > for a while, that coupled with the UMN contributing to bandwidth should be > enough to keep things going for now without further issue for a while. I think we should line up 2 or maybe 3 carriers to open up the Akamai route and that we should do it right away. -U of M isn't offering full transit, just access over their peering network -I think sharing the load is a good idea i.e. it's very cooperative, also providing bandwidth makes a carrier "invested" in the exchange -The connections are relatively easy to add and we're in a building where bandwidth is close infinite and everyone buys a gig when they really only need 250 Mb/s -It is a LOT of work to beg for bandwidth from carriers. Also, striking when there is an issue to resolve yields much better results than saying it is for growth. I'd rather spend my time recruiting new carriers. -From a TE standpoint, if i was picking up hundreds of mb/s from an Akamai cluster, I would want to contribute my bandwidth to make sure it stays operational -Getting management buy in doesn't mean that we are required to use the BW, we can have carriers ready with their upstream filters updated and advertise the route when the time comes. Jay ######################################################################## To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1

Oct. 30, 2011

Re: FYI: Hurricane Electric changed to 10Gig

by Frank Bulk

Here's a dumb question: Can MICE's Akamai cache be backfilled out of UofM's Akamai cluster? And if it's possible, is there any synergy in combining the storage of both clusters to spread the content and backfilling across both clusters? IIRC, MICE has good connectivity to UofM and doing so could reduced UofM's backfilling costs and expand the content available. Frank From: MICE Discuss [mailto:MICE-DISCUSS@LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET] On Behalf Of Mike Wilker Sent: Sunday, October 30, 2011 10:29 AM To: MICE-DISCUSS(a)LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET Subject: Re: [MICE-DISCUSS] FYI: Hurricane Electric changed to 10Gig The last I saw from Mr. Farmer was that they were talking to Akamai about the UofM providing the needed bandwidth. Should we be waiting for the results of that before seeing about other members chipping in? Mike Wilker Chief Technical Officer Jaguar Communications 507-214-0259 mwilker(a)jagcom.net<mailto:mwilker@jagcom.net> On Sun, Oct 30, 2011 at 10:20 AM, Jay Hanke <jayhanke(a)mankatonetworks.net<mailto:jayhanke@mankatonetworks.net>> wrote: On Sat, Oct 29, 2011 at 11:35 PM, Frank Bulk <fbulk(a)mypremieronline.com<mailto:fbulk@mypremieronline.com>> wrote: > I see that Akamai's peak is sitting around 1 Gbps, while it was regularly peaking to 1.7 Gbps before the 25th. Is this part of Akamai's cap change? Yes, we need more donated bandwidth for cache fill. Jay ######################################################################## To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1 ________________________________ To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1 ######################################################################## To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1

Oct. 30, 2011

Re: FYI: Hurricane Electric changed to 10Gig

by Justin Krejci

More or less, yes depending on how much bandwidth demand actually increases. That said I think we should just wait for a bit and see what the demand looks like over the next week. I've been upgrading all of USI's transit links to 10 gig links (almost done) and so we will have some excess capacity for a while, that coupled with the UMN contributing to bandwidth should be enough to keep things going for now without further issue for a while. -----Original Message----- From: Mike Wilker <mwilker(a)JAGCOM.NET> Sender: MICE Discuss <MICE-DISCUSS(a)LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET> Date: Sun, 30 Oct 2011 11:48:54 To: <MICE-DISCUSS(a)LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET> Reply-To: MICE Discuss <MICE-DISCUSS(a)LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET> Subject: Re: [MICE-DISCUSS] FYI: Hurricane Electric changed to 10Gig So if that is the case, a carrier can"t commit to just 100Mbps because they'd have to expect traffic levels to increase somewhat equally accross all contributing carriers and the only way it would stay lower would be if more carriers started contributing, correct? Mike Wilker Chief Technical Officer Jaguar Communications 507-214-0259 mwilker(a)jagcom.net On Sun, Oct 30, 2011 at 11:32 AM, Jay Hanke <jayhanke(a)mankatonetworks.net>wrote: > You would allow the akamai block out to your upstreams. > > I think the balancing magic would be to have several carriers open up 1 > upstream spreading the load. > On Oct 30, 2011 11:26 AM, "Mike Horwath" <drechsau(a)iphouse.net> wrote: > >> Provider independent addressing would sure be fun here... >> >> So, let's say I wanna pump in some bandwidth, how do I? >> >> Assume I'm an idiot. >> >> -- >> Mike Horwath via iPad 2, electric boogaloo! >> ######################################################################## >> >> To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: >> http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1 >> > > ------------------------------ > > To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: > http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1 > ######################################################################## To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1 ######################################################################## To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1

Oct. 30, 2011

Re: FYI: Hurricane Electric changed to 10Gig

by Mike Horwath

I see an elephant in the room... -- Mike Horwath via iPad 2, electric boogaloo! ######################################################################## To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1

Oct. 30, 2011

Re: FYI: Hurricane Electric changed to 10Gig

by Mike Wilker

So if that is the case, a carrier can"t commit to just 100Mbps because they'd have to expect traffic levels to increase somewhat equally accross all contributing carriers and the only way it would stay lower would be if more carriers started contributing, correct? Mike Wilker Chief Technical Officer Jaguar Communications 507-214-0259 mwilker(a)jagcom.net On Sun, Oct 30, 2011 at 11:32 AM, Jay Hanke <jayhanke(a)mankatonetworks.net>wrote: > You would allow the akamai block out to your upstreams. > > I think the balancing magic would be to have several carriers open up 1 > upstream spreading the load. > On Oct 30, 2011 11:26 AM, "Mike Horwath" <drechsau(a)iphouse.net> wrote: > >> Provider independent addressing would sure be fun here... >> >> So, let's say I wanna pump in some bandwidth, how do I? >> >> Assume I'm an idiot. >> >> -- >> Mike Horwath via iPad 2, electric boogaloo! >> ######################################################################## >> >> To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: >> http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1 >> > > ------------------------------ > > To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: > http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1 > ######################################################################## To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1

Oct. 30, 2011

Re: FYI: Hurricane Electric changed to 10Gig

by Dan Olsen

I'm with mike and no need to assume anything. How do we help Sent from a wireless device -----Original Message----- From: Mike Horwath <drechsau(a)IPHOUSE.NET> Sender: MICE Discuss <MICE-DISCUSS(a)LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET> Date: Sun, 30 Oct 2011 16:26:21 To: <MICE-DISCUSS(a)LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET> Reply-To: MICE Discuss <MICE-DISCUSS(a)LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET> Subject: Re: [MICE-DISCUSS] FYI: Hurricane Electric changed to 10Gig Provider independent addressing would sure be fun here... So, let's say I wanna pump in some bandwidth, how do I? Assume I'm an idiot. -- Mike Horwath via iPad 2, electric boogaloo! ######################################################################## To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1 ######################################################################## To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1

Oct. 30, 2011

Re: FYI: Hurricane Electric changed to 10Gig

by Jeremy Lumby

Do I remember correctly that in the early days, Akamai did not want to be fed across the exchange? Am I mistaken, or has something changed? I assumed this was the reason for the direct fiber cross connect to USI. From: MICE Discuss [mailto:MICE-DISCUSS@LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET] On Behalf Of Jay Hanke Sent: Sunday, October 30, 2011 11:32 AM To: MICE-DISCUSS(a)LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET Subject: Re: [MICE-DISCUSS] FYI: Hurricane Electric changed to 10Gig You would allow the akamai block out to your upstreams. I think the balancing magic would be to have several carriers open up 1 upstream spreading the load. On Oct 30, 2011 11:26 AM, "Mike Horwath" <drechsau(a)iphouse.net> wrote: Provider independent addressing would sure be fun here... So, let's say I wanna pump in some bandwidth, how do I? Assume I'm an idiot. -- Mike Horwath via iPad 2, electric boogaloo! ######################################################################## To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1 To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1 ######################################################################## To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1

Oct. 30, 2011

Re: FYI: Hurricane Electric changed to 10Gig

by Jeremy Berg

On Oct 30, 2011, at 11:26 AM, Mike Horwath <drechsau(a)IPHOUSE.NET> wrote: > Assume I'm an idiot. Not hard to do. ;-p ######################################################################## To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1

Oct. 30, 2011