December 2018 - mice-discuss - lists.micemn.net

Re: ip route objects in MICE

by Justin Krejci

While I find the idea interesting, I am doubtful there will be any ubiquitous technique that every or even most networks will be willing to implement for this purpose, especially since not every prefix is likely to be presented from a single geo; some operators likely have one prefix broken into smaller networks, each of which are in disparate geos while being presented to eBGP/DFZ as an aggregate prefix because, you know, they are trying to be good netizens by being mindful of RIB and FIB limitations. Even if some sort of self-applied geo-tagging of prefixes were defined clearly by some body like IETF or something, it would likely take a tremendous amount of motivation to get operators to actually implement such a thing and then also keep it up to date over time. We can't even get people to do the sensible BCP38 filtering on a large scale and that has pretty significant benefits whereas I, at least at first glance, don't see any noteworthy value of such a geo-tagging mechanism to provoke active implementation by the majority. Maybe something could be embedded in BGP origin validation rpki... like stuff some additional geo bits stuffed into that. This is not a thoroughly thought out idea, just kind of tossing it out there as it is something that is gaining some momentum and sits in the same realm of administratively assessing BGP prefixes. You might consider something fully within your own administrative control like RTT testing to IP addresses on various prefixes to gauge an approximate distance, though I suppose this idea would be severely unreliable due to many variable conditions affecting RTT that have nothing to do with geographic distance. ¯\_(?)_/¯ Best of luck on your search ________________________________ From: MICE Discuss <MICE-DISCUSS(a)LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET> on behalf of Timothy Peiffer <peiffer(a)UMN.EDU> Sent: Friday, December 28, 2018 3:39 PM To: MICE-DISCUSS(a)LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET Subject: [MICE-DISCUSS] ip route objects in MICE I am interested in gathering data for a firewall ruleset that allows more direct usage from networks that are in the metro region of Twin Cities and Duluth, and to a lesser degree communities and surrounding areas for Crookston and Morris. For the participants of MICE, do you have a way of easily presenting your routes by geolocation? I pulled down our route tables for one of our Northern Lights routers connected and matched the base address against max mind geolocate. The result was a list of about 7,000 routes that I thought was unmanageable. Is there a better way, maybe through BGP communities or similar methods, to get more direct relevant info? I want to have a ruleset that permits <ISP x>/minneapolis but denies <ISP x>/atlanta. -- Regards, Tim Peiffer +1 612-626-7884 Network Engineer Office of Information Technology (OIT) University of Minnesota ________________________________ To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1

Dec. 29, 2018

ip route objects in MICE

by Timothy Peiffer

I am interested in gathering data for a firewall ruleset that allows more direct usage from networks that are in the metro region of Twin Cities and Duluth, and to a lesser degree communities and surrounding areas for Crookston and Morris. For the participants of MICE, do you have a way of easily presenting your routes by geolocation? I pulled down our route tables for one of our Northern Lights routers connected and matched the base address against max mind geolocate. The result was a list of about 7,000 routes that I thought was unmanageable. Is there a better way, maybe through BGP communities or similar methods, to get more direct relevant info? I want to have a ruleset that permits <ISP x>/minneapolis but denies <ISP x>/atlanta. -- Regards, Tim Peiffer +1 612-626-7884 Network Engineer Office of Information Technology (OIT) University of Minnesota

Dec. 28, 2018

Re: Amazon issues?

by Frank Bulk

We saw the same thing – I’m sending a note to the technical contact PeeringDB to inquire. Interesting that the graphs didn’t show a dip at those times. Regards, Frank From: MICE Discuss <MICE-DISCUSS(a)LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET> On Behalf Of James Urwiller Sent: Friday, December 21, 2018 10:14 AM To: MICE-DISCUSS(a)LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET Subject: Re: [MICE-DISCUSS] Amazon issues? thats what I was thinking.. my times match. thanks! Sent from my iPhone 7 On Dec 21, 2018, at 10:12, Timothy Peiffer <peiffer(a)UMN.EDU<mailto:peiffer@UMN.EDU>> wrote: Yes, Northern Lights GigaPOP showed bounces around 4:20, 5:50, and 8:55 according to our alerts. I can get more precise reading the logs. -- Regards, Tim Peiffer +1 612-626-7884 Network Engineer Office of Information Technology (OIT) University of Minnesota On Fri, Dec 21, 2018 at 9:12 AM James Urwiller <james.urwiller(a)turnkey-telecom.com<mailto:james.urwiller@turnkey-telecom.com>> wrote: I have seen my peer with Amazon bounce a few times this AM, anyone else? James Urwiller Network Architect Stealth Broadband james.urwiller(a)stealthbroadband.com<mailto:james.urwiller@stealthbroadband.com> <image001.jpg> ________________________________ To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1 -- Regards, Tim Peiffer +1 612-626-7884 Network Engineer Office of Information Technology (OIT) University of Minnesota ________________________________ To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1 ________________________________ To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1

Dec. 21, 2018

Re: Amazon issues?

by Jeff Wilde

I’m surprised amazon answered your peer request. Jeff Wilde IT Manager Park Region Telephone Company P: 218-826-8330 E: jeff.wilde(a)parkregion.com<mailto:jeff.wilde@parkregion.com> From: MICE Discuss <MICE-DISCUSS(a)LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET> On Behalf Of James Urwiller Sent: Friday, December 21, 2018 10:14 AM To: MICE-DISCUSS(a)LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET Subject: Re: [MICE-DISCUSS] Amazon issues? thats what I was thinking.. my times match. thanks! Sent from my iPhone 7 On Dec 21, 2018, at 10:12, Timothy Peiffer <peiffer(a)UMN.EDU<mailto:peiffer@UMN.EDU>> wrote: Yes, Northern Lights GigaPOP showed bounces around 4:20, 5:50, and 8:55 according to our alerts. I can get more precise reading the logs. -- Regards, Tim Peiffer +1 612-626-7884 Network Engineer Office of Information Technology (OIT) University of Minnesota On Fri, Dec 21, 2018 at 9:12 AM James Urwiller <james.urwiller(a)turnkey-telecom.com<mailto:james.urwiller@turnkey-telecom.com>> wrote: I have seen my peer with Amazon bounce a few times this AM, anyone else? James Urwiller Network Architect Stealth Broadband james.urwiller(a)stealthbroadband.com<mailto:james.urwiller@stealthbroadband.com> <image001.jpg> ________________________________ To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1 -- Regards, Tim Peiffer +1 612-626-7884 Network Engineer Office of Information Technology (OIT) University of Minnesota ________________________________ To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1 ________________________________ To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1

Dec. 21, 2018

Re: Amazon issues?

by James Urwiller

thats what I was thinking.. my times match. thanks! Sent from my iPhone 7 > On Dec 21, 2018, at 10:12, Timothy Peiffer <peiffer(a)UMN.EDU> wrote: > > Yes, Northern Lights GigaPOP showed bounces around 4:20, 5:50, and 8:55 according to our alerts. I can get more precise reading the logs. > > > -- > Regards, > > Tim Peiffer > +1 612-626-7884 > Network Engineer > Office of Information Technology (OIT) > University of Minnesota > >> On Fri, Dec 21, 2018 at 9:12 AM James Urwiller <james.urwiller(a)turnkey-telecom.com> wrote: >> I have seen my peer with Amazon bounce a few times this AM, anyone else? >> >> >> >> James Urwiller >> >> Network Architect >> >> Stealth Broadband >> >> james.urwiller(a)stealthbroadband.com >> >> <image001.jpg> >> >> >> >> >> To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: >> http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1 >> > > > -- > Regards, > > Tim Peiffer > +1 612-626-7884 > Network Engineer > Office of Information Technology (OIT) > University of Minnesota > > To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: > http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1

Dec. 21, 2018

Re: Amazon issues?

by Timothy Peiffer

Yes, Northern Lights GigaPOP showed bounces around 4:20, 5:50, and 8:55 according to our alerts. I can get more precise reading the logs. -- Regards, Tim Peiffer +1 612-626-7884 Network Engineer Office of Information Technology (OIT) University of Minnesota On Fri, Dec 21, 2018 at 9:12 AM James Urwiller < james.urwiller(a)turnkey-telecom.com> wrote: > I have seen my peer with Amazon bounce a few times this AM, anyone else? > > > > James Urwiller > > Network Architect > > Stealth Broadband > > james.urwiller(a)stealthbroadband.com > > [image: stealth300] > > > > ------------------------------ > > To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: > http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1 > -- Regards, Tim Peiffer +1 612-626-7884 Network Engineer Office of Information Technology (OIT) University of Minnesota

Dec. 21, 2018

Amazon issues?

by James Urwiller

I have seen my peer with Amazon bounce a few times this AM, anyone else? James Urwiller Network Architect Stealth Broadband james.urwiller(a)stealthbroadband.com [image: stealth300]

Dec. 21, 2018

Re: ADV: [MICE-DISCUSS] Please Welcome Router12 to MICE!

by Doug McIntyre

On Tue, Dec 18, 2018 at 03:05:36PM -0600, Jay Hanke wrote: >Name: Router12 >Port: Ethernet 1 (SFN Albert Lea Remote) 10GE >ASN: 55009 >IPv4: 206.108.255.118/24 >IPv6: 2001:504:27:0:0:d6e1::1/64 >Peering Contact: rmalek(a)router12.net >Route Servers- YES >BFD: NO I've added them into the route-servers. Welcome! -- Doug McIntyre <merlyn(a)iphouse.net> ~.~ ipHouse ~.~ Network Engineer/Provisioning/Jack of all Trades

Dec. 19, 2018

Please Welcome Router12 to MICE!

by Jay Hanke

Name: Router12 Port: Ethernet 1 (SFN Albert Lea Remote) 10GE ASN: 55009 IPv4: 206.108.255.118/24 IPv6: 2001:504:27:0:0:d6e1::1/64 Peering Contact: rmalek(a)router12.net Route Servers- YES BFD: NO Welcome aboard! -- Jay Hanke, President South Front Networks jayhanke(a)southfront.io Phone 612-204-0000

Dec. 18, 2018

Re: WIN/Airstream 10G LAG Augment

by Jeremy Lumby

The switch config is complete From: MICE Discuss [mailto:MICE-DISCUSS@LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET] On Behalf Of Jay Hanke Sent: Tuesday, December 18, 2018 8:09 AM To: MICE-DISCUSS(a)LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET Subject: [MICE-DISCUSS] WIN/Airstream 10G LAG Augment Airstream has been allocated Ethernet5/18 to add to their existing LAG. Please update the switch configuration. The new LAG is 30G. -- Jay Hanke, President South Front Networks jayhanke(a)southfront.io Phone 612-204-0000 To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1

Dec. 18, 2018