September 2022 - mice-discuss

Re: Amazon changes

by Andrew Hoyos

https://www.peeringdb.com/net/1418 NOC Technical Operations peering-to(a)amazon.com Operational issues: If you experience connectivity issues to Amazon, please first visit: http://ec2-reachability.amazonaws.com/. When contacting our Operational alias below, please include trace/debug information (source and destination address) and details for the affected prefixes. This will reduce troubleshooting time. Please do not contact policy addresses for operational support. — Andrew Hoyos hoyosa(a)gmail.com > On Sep 30, 2022, at 10:04 AM, Justin Huffman <jhuffman(a)LONGLINES.BIZ> wrote: > > Does anyone know of any BGP changes that were done last night around 9 or 9:30 that would have affected AWS or Amazon? We have 1 customer that we advertise their entire block via BGP and they cannot access several AWS sites. Does anyone have a good Amazon contact? > > Thanks, > > Justin Huffman > Long Lines Broadband > 712-271-5902 (W) > jhuffman(a)longlines.biz > > <image001.jpg> <image002.png> > > > > To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: > http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1 >

Sept. 30, 2022

Amazon changes

by Justin Huffman

Does anyone know of any BGP changes that were done last night around 9 or 9:30 that would have affected AWS or Amazon? We have 1 customer that we advertise their entire block via BGP and they cannot access several AWS sites. Does anyone have a good Amazon contact? Thanks, Justin Huffman Long Lines Broadband 712-271-5902 (W) jhuffman(a)longlines.biz<mailto:jhuffman@longlines.biz> [LL new] [cid:image002.png@01D8D4B4.02AA59F0]

Sept. 30, 2022

Please welcome FiberNet Communications to MICE!

by Jeremy Lumby

Name: FiberNet Communications Switch: MN VoIP - 100G Port: E8/1 ASN: 18883 IPv4: This is a port upgrade, all IP info remains the same. The new connection will be 100G IPv6: Peering Contact: peering(a)fibernetcommunications.net Route Servers: Yes BFD: No Welcome Aboard Again! Jeremy Lumby Minnesota VoIP 9217 17th Ave S #216 Bloomington, MN 55425 Main: 612-355-7740 Direct: 612-392-6814 Fax: 952-873-7425 jlumby(a)mnvoip.com

Sept. 20, 2022

MICE UG 41 at 3:00 PM

by Richard Laager

MICE UG 41 is at 3:00 PM at UMN: https://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?A2=MICE-DISCUSS;2c503e19.2209 or via Zoom: https://umn.zoom.us/j/98411644091?pwd=QUxiM3hyaldYeDd5SnJFNC9rd2I5dz09 Meeting ID: 984 1164 4091 Passcode: MDQp15 One tap mobile +16513728299,,98411644091#,,,,*686853# US (Minnesota) +13126266799,,98411644091#,,,,*686853# US (Chicago) For the election, the only nomination was me (Richard Laager), so I am running unopposed. As has been our practice, we will still hold the vote for procedural reasons, even though the result is known. -- Richard

Sept. 20, 2022

Re: Remote access details for tomorrow's meeting?

by David Farmer

Sorry, no, that won't work, below is updated Remote Access Information for tomorrow. MICE UG 41 will be held at the University’s Information Technology Building, 2218 University Ave SE, Minneapolis, MN 55414, Room 185. It is across University Ave SE from Huntington Bank Stadium (Formerly TCF Bank Stadium). See the link to the Campus Map below. This room has a video room system, and remote access will be made available via Zoom video or phone audio, see Zoom details below. Please enter the building through the middle of three doors on the Ontario St SE side of the building. It will be open after 2:30 and will have a sign on it. If not, please knock hard, or call my cell phone (612-812-9952). This door is right outside the meeting room, this avoids everyone traipsing through the building. The Stadium Village Green Line Light Rail Station is less than a block east of the building, kitty-corner at the intersection of University Ave SE and Huron Blvd SE. See the link below for the station's info page. Limited Street Parking is available on Ontario St SE and Beacon St SE. Otherwise, public parking is available in the Oak St and University Ave Ramps, each a little over two blocks away. Also, the Maroon lot is a little further on the north side of the Stadium. See the link below for more parking details. DO NOT park in University Parking Lot 70 on the north of the building, by the front door, between University Ave SE and the building, or Parking Lot 71 near the loading dock to the east of the building, they are contract parking only, and you be ticketed. Also, DO NOT park in the private parking lot to the south of the building; you will likely be tagged, booted, and towed from that parking lot. https://campusmaps.umn.edu/information-technology https://www.metrotransit.org/stadium-village-station https://pts.umn.edu/Park/Basic-Parking-Information/Parking-Facilities ---------- David E Farmer III is inviting you to a scheduled Zoom meeting. Join Zoom Meeting https://umn.zoom.us/j/98411644091?pwd=QUxiM3hyaldYeDd5SnJFNC9rd2I5dz09 Meeting ID: 984 1164 4091 Passcode: MDQp15 One tap mobile +16513728299,,98411644091#,,,,*686853# US (Minnesota) +13126266799,,98411644091#,,,,*686853# US (Chicago) Dial by your location +1 651 372 8299 US (Minnesota) +1 312 626 6799 US (Chicago) +1 646 558 8656 US (New York) +1 301 715 8592 US (Washington DC) +1 346 248 7799 US (Houston) +1 669 900 6833 US (San Jose) +1 253 215 8782 US (Tacoma) Meeting ID: 984 1164 4091 Passcode: 686853 Find your local number: https://umn.zoom.us/u/adbNJkGc6V Join by SIP 98411644091(a)zoomcrc.com Join by H.323 162.255.37.11 (US West) 162.255.36.11 (US East) 221.122.88.195 (China) 115.114.131.7 (India Mumbai) 115.114.115.7 (India Hyderabad) 213.19.144.110 (Amsterdam Netherlands) 213.244.140.110 (Germany) 103.122.166.55 (Australia Sydney) 103.122.167.55 (Australia Melbourne) 209.9.211.110 (Hong Kong SAR) 149.137.40.110 (Singapore) 64.211.144.160 (Brazil) 69.174.57.160 (Canada Toronto) 65.39.152.160 (Canada Vancouver) 207.226.132.110 (Japan Tokyo) 149.137.24.110 (Japan Osaka) Meeting ID: 984 1164 4091 Passcode: 686853 On Mon, Sep 19, 2022 at 3:37 PM Miles McCredie <Miles.McCredie(a)midco.com> wrote: > Are the remote access details at > http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?A2=MICE-DISCUSS;28135c9a.2107 > accurate for tomorrow’s meeting? (They are from July and mention UG39 so > thought I would check.) > > > > Thanks > > > > > > *Miles McCredie * > Principal Network Engineer I-Core IP > > Office: 6052755192 > Miles.McCredie(a)midco.com > > *Midco.com* > > > ------------------------------ > > To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: > http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1 > -- =============================================== David Farmer Email:farmer@umn.edu Networking & Telecommunication Services Office of Information Technology University of Minnesota 2218 University Ave SE Phone: 612-626-0815 Minneapolis, MN 55414-3029 Cell: 612-812-9952 ===============================================

Sept. 20, 2022

Re: Remote access details for tomorrow's meeting?

by Richard Laager

Anthony will confirm tomorrow morning. On 9/19/22 15:37, Miles McCredie wrote: > > Are the remote access details at > http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?A2=MICE-DISCUSS;28135c9a.2107 > accurate for tomorrow’s meeting? (They are from July and mention UG39 > so thought I would check.) > -- Richard

Sept. 20, 2022

Remote access details for tomorrow's meeting?

by Miles McCredie

Are the remote access details at http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?A2=MICE-DISCUSS;28135c9a.2107 accurate for tomorrow's meeting? (They are from July and mention UG39 so thought I would check.) Thanks [http://images.midcocomm.com/ES_MidcoLogo.png] Miles McCredie Principal Network Engineer I-Core IP Office: 6052755192 Miles.McCredie(a)midco.com Midco.com

Sept. 19, 2022

Re: RST Hurricane Congestion

by Darin Steffl

Thanks for the info Reid. I'm not sure if you're referencing Zayo or not. They seem to have plenty of fiber issues near the metro. It seems reconvergence takes longer than it should when there's a cut too. We see 2-4 minutes of slow speeds or lost routes/downtime when I assume there's a cut on a path feeding into RST. At one point, a software update was done and it got much better but now it seems to be troublesome again. Congestion is usually bad when there's a cut and I have reported many events over the life of our account. Hopefully you guys have good luck improving things into RST. Thank you On Sat, Sep 17, 2022, 12:28 AM Reid Fishler < 0000000c9d62e487-dmarc-request(a)lists.iphouse.net> wrote: > Just to be clear, this was a fiber on some...legacy RST fiber. It has > multiple 100s for us, so the reroute wasn't as pretty as it should be. We > are actively working on making things a bit better between RST and the MSP > area, but its a work in progress. Sorry for any issues, but I think many of > us know the problematic history of this run of fiber. > > Reid > > > On Fri, Sep 16, 2022 at 12:54 PM Ben Wiechman <ben.wiechman(a)arvig.com> > wrote: > >> We didn't have anything down in that area in our maintenance/outage list. >> Another carrier has been fighting a cut between Winona and Wabasha in a >> difficult location. Maybe HE has some services through them as well? It >> seems out of the way, but... >> >> Ben Wiechman >> >> Director of Network Strategy and Engineering >> >> 320.247.3224 | ben.wiechman(a)arvig.com >> >> Arvig | 224 East Main Street | Melrose, MN 56352 | arvig.com >> >> >> >> >> On Thu, Sep 15, 2022 at 9:46 PM Darin Steffl <darin.steffl(a)mnwifi.com> >> wrote: >> >>> It's not football killing us tonight! They finally responded after I >>> called them twice and waited 1 hour, 51 mins for a ticket reply. They said >>> several circuits are down to Rochester and they're trying to balance >>> traffic on the remaining links. It's slowly getting better but we're still >>> down 25% from our normal peak at this time of night. It's better than being >>> down 50% of normal. >>> >>> This seems to be happening more frequently the last 2-3 years or there's >>> more capacity sold, being used, in RST compared to years past when there's >>> been fiber cuts. The slow performance is very noticeable. Less than 2 Mbps >>> download and 10-20% packetloss anywhere outside of RST. >>> >>> Ben, are there any Arvig cuts between RST and Belle Plaine/MSP? I'm >>> pretty sure they have some 100G paths from you guys. >>> >>> On Thu, Sep 15, 2022 at 9:41 PM Ben Wiechman <ben.wiechman(a)arvig.com> >>> wrote: >>> >>>> Thu night football killing the link? >>>> >>>> >>>> Ben Wiechman >>>> Director of IP Strategy and Engineering >>>> Direct: 320.256.0184 >>>> Cell: 320.247.3224 >>>> ben.wiechman(a)arvig.com >>>> 150 Second Street SW | Perham, MN 56573 | arvig.com >>>> >>>> On Thu, Sep 15, 2022, 20:16 Darin Steffl <darin.steffl(a)mnwifi.com> >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>>> Anyone else connected to Hurricane's RST router noticing major >>>>> congestion? It looks like the RST-BLP-MSP path is down and traffic is being >>>>> diverted to CHI first or DVN-OMA. >>>>> >>>>> Any speedtests to ISP's like MiBroadband or KMTelecom that are >>>>> connected to RST are fine but any tests outside of that like to US Internet >>>>> or Carleton College, I'm seeing under 2 Mbps download speeds and 20% packet >>>>> loss. >>>>> >>>>> I reported it to Hurricane at 7:39pm but it's been ongoing longer than >>>>> that. I called 10 minutes after I emailed their NOC and the lady there >>>>> wouldn't transfer me to an engineer and just said they'd reply to my ticket >>>>> after they looked. I stressed the urgency since our traffic levels are only >>>>> 50% of what they should be right now. >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> Darin Steffl >>>>> Minnesota WiFi >>>>> www.mnwifi.com >>>>> 507-634-WiFi >>>>> Like us on Facebook <http://www.facebook.com/minnesotawifi> >>>>> >>>>> ------------------------------ >>>>> >>>>> To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: >>>>> http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1 >>>>> >>>> >>>> ------------------------------ >>>> >>>> To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: >>>> http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1 >>>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> Darin Steffl >>> Minnesota WiFi >>> www.mnwifi.com >>> 507-634-WiFi >>> Like us on Facebook <http://www.facebook.com/minnesotawifi> >>> >>> ------------------------------ >>> >>> To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: >>> http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1 >>> >> >> ------------------------------ >> >> To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: >> http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1 >> > > > -- > Reid Fishler > Senior Director > Hurricane Electric > +1-510-580-4178 > > ------------------------------ > > To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: > http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1 >

Sept. 17, 2022

Re: RST Hurricane Congestion

by Reid Fishler

Just to be clear, this was a fiber on some...legacy RST fiber. It has multiple 100s for us, so the reroute wasn't as pretty as it should be. We are actively working on making things a bit better between RST and the MSP area, but its a work in progress. Sorry for any issues, but I think many of us know the problematic history of this run of fiber. Reid On Fri, Sep 16, 2022 at 12:54 PM Ben Wiechman <ben.wiechman(a)arvig.com> wrote: > We didn't have anything down in that area in our maintenance/outage list. > Another carrier has been fighting a cut between Winona and Wabasha in a > difficult location. Maybe HE has some services through them as well? It > seems out of the way, but... > > Ben Wiechman > > Director of Network Strategy and Engineering > > 320.247.3224 | ben.wiechman(a)arvig.com > > Arvig | 224 East Main Street | Melrose, MN 56352 | arvig.com > > > > > On Thu, Sep 15, 2022 at 9:46 PM Darin Steffl <darin.steffl(a)mnwifi.com> > wrote: > >> It's not football killing us tonight! They finally responded after I >> called them twice and waited 1 hour, 51 mins for a ticket reply. They said >> several circuits are down to Rochester and they're trying to balance >> traffic on the remaining links. It's slowly getting better but we're still >> down 25% from our normal peak at this time of night. It's better than being >> down 50% of normal. >> >> This seems to be happening more frequently the last 2-3 years or there's >> more capacity sold, being used, in RST compared to years past when there's >> been fiber cuts. The slow performance is very noticeable. Less than 2 Mbps >> download and 10-20% packetloss anywhere outside of RST. >> >> Ben, are there any Arvig cuts between RST and Belle Plaine/MSP? I'm >> pretty sure they have some 100G paths from you guys. >> >> On Thu, Sep 15, 2022 at 9:41 PM Ben Wiechman <ben.wiechman(a)arvig.com> >> wrote: >> >>> Thu night football killing the link? >>> >>> >>> Ben Wiechman >>> Director of IP Strategy and Engineering >>> Direct: 320.256.0184 >>> Cell: 320.247.3224 >>> ben.wiechman(a)arvig.com >>> 150 Second Street SW | Perham, MN 56573 | arvig.com >>> >>> On Thu, Sep 15, 2022, 20:16 Darin Steffl <darin.steffl(a)mnwifi.com> >>> wrote: >>> >>>> Anyone else connected to Hurricane's RST router noticing major >>>> congestion? It looks like the RST-BLP-MSP path is down and traffic is being >>>> diverted to CHI first or DVN-OMA. >>>> >>>> Any speedtests to ISP's like MiBroadband or KMTelecom that are >>>> connected to RST are fine but any tests outside of that like to US Internet >>>> or Carleton College, I'm seeing under 2 Mbps download speeds and 20% packet >>>> loss. >>>> >>>> I reported it to Hurricane at 7:39pm but it's been ongoing longer than >>>> that. I called 10 minutes after I emailed their NOC and the lady there >>>> wouldn't transfer me to an engineer and just said they'd reply to my ticket >>>> after they looked. I stressed the urgency since our traffic levels are only >>>> 50% of what they should be right now. >>>> >>>> -- >>>> Darin Steffl >>>> Minnesota WiFi >>>> www.mnwifi.com >>>> 507-634-WiFi >>>> Like us on Facebook <http://www.facebook.com/minnesotawifi> >>>> >>>> ------------------------------ >>>> >>>> To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: >>>> http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1 >>>> >>> >>> ------------------------------ >>> >>> To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: >>> http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1 >>> >> >> >> -- >> Darin Steffl >> Minnesota WiFi >> www.mnwifi.com >> 507-634-WiFi >> Like us on Facebook <http://www.facebook.com/minnesotawifi> >> >> ------------------------------ >> >> To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: >> http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1 >> > > ------------------------------ > > To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: > http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1 > -- Reid Fishler Senior Director Hurricane Electric +1-510-580-4178

Sept. 17, 2022

Re: RST Hurricane Congestion

by Jay Hanke

> We didn't have anything down in that area in our maintenance/outage list. > Another carrier has been fighting a cut between Winona and Wabasha in a difficult location. Maybe HE has some services through them as well? It seems out of the way, but... There's only so many viable hops out of RST that go someplace useful for peering. The stuff heading towards Chicago gets horribly congested during network events. If that cut is on the CP rail between Winona and Wabasha that would remove a good chunk of capacity between MN and Chicago. MICE can help quite a bit with the Chicago problem...

Sept. 16, 2022