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[MICE-DISCUSS] Re: ipHouse MICE Disconnect

by Mike Horwath

On Mon, Dec 02, 2024 at 02:38:21PM -0600, Jay Hanke via mice-discuss wrote: > In particular, Doug McIntyre has contributed a huge amount of effort > when MICE was just a pinkie. It would have been much more difficult > without his help. Doug deserves so much thanks. He rocks but I've known that since the late 1980s.. :) -- Mike Horwath, reachable via drechsau(a)Geeks.ORG

Dec. 2, 2024

[MICE-DISCUSS] ipHouse MICE Disconnect

by Jay Hanke

ipHouse is disconnecting from MICE. ipHouse is an OG member of MICE and has been a huge supporter over the years contributing to just about every aspect of the IX. They have contributed everything from donating equipment, transit, mailing list services and TONS of manual Bird config over the years. In particular, Doug McIntyre has contributed a huge amount of effort when MICE was just a pinkie. It would have been much more difficult without his help. Thanks! Jay

Dec. 2, 2024

[MICE-DISCUSS] Please welcome Park Region to MICE!

by Jeremy Lumby

Name: Park Region Switch: Fiber Minnesota Port: Hu1/0/19 ASN: 25637 IPv4: This is a port upgrade to 100G. All IP info remains the same. IPv6: Peering Contact: noc(a)parkregion.com Route Servers: Yes Welcome Aboard Again! Jeremy Lumby Minnesota VoIP 9217 17th Ave S #216 Bloomington, MN 55425 M: 612-355-7740 D: 612-392-6814 F: 952-873-7425 jlumby(a)mnvoip.com

Nov. 27, 2024

[MICE-DISCUSS] MICE Server Updates

by Cameron Skappel

The second round of updates, which included Route Server 2, has been completed. -- Cameron Skappel 218-436-5226 Wikstrom Telephone Company

Nov. 26, 2024

[MICE-DISCUSS] Re: MICE Mailing Lists

by Mike Horwath

favorite header: X-No-Archive: yes I miss OG UseNet -- Mike Horwath, reachable via drechsau(a)Geeks.ORG

Nov. 25, 2024

[MICE-DISCUSS] Re: MICE Mailing Lists

by Mike Horwath

On Mon, Nov 25, 2024 at 02:12:29PM -0600, Richard Laager wrote: > This is a test of the new mice-discuss mailing list. no fail! -- Mike Horwath, reachable via drechsau(a)Geeks.ORG

Nov. 25, 2024

[MICE-DISCUSS] Re: MICE Mailing Lists

by Nevin Lyne

First post came through nicely :) -Nevin -- -- Nevin Lyne -- Founder and Director of Technology -- Arcustech, LLC - https://www.arcustech.com/ On Mon, Nov 25, 2024, at 2:12 PM, Richard Laager wrote: > This is a test of the new mice-discuss mailing list. > > On 2024-11-25 13:56, Richard Laager wrote: >> MICE is migrating mailing lists to new infrastructure. >> >> ipHouse is winding down / spinning off certain operations. I want to thank ipHouse for their support of MICE over many years. In particular, I want to thank Doug McIntyre for years of work. >> >> The web interface will be available at https://lists.micemn.net and the lists will be the same names but at the new domain, i.e. mice-discuss(a)lists.micemn.net and mice-announce(a)lists.micemn.net. >> >> I am transferring all subscriptions. You will shortly receive an invitation message. In theory, no action is necessary, and hopefully this all just works. :) >> >> For those of you with digest subscriptions, I will manually change your setting to digest after importing your address. So give me a few minutes. >> >> The external provider will be importing the archives shortly. Again, hopefully that works. It will not include this message, since this is after I exported the archives. >> >> Also, the MICE board now have personal @micemn.net emails: >> >> Anthony Anderberg <ant(a)micemn.net> >> Reid Fishler <rfishler(a)micemn.net> >> Richard Laager <rlaager(a)micemn.net> >> > -- > Richard Laager > Chief Manager, Director > Midwest Internet Cooperative Exchange LLC > _______________________________________________ > mice-discuss mailing list -- mice-discuss(a)lists.micemn.net > To unsubscribe send an email to mice-discuss-leave(a)lists.micemn.net

Nov. 25, 2024

[MICE-DISCUSS] Re: MICE Mailing Lists

by Richard Laager

This is a test of the new mice-discuss mailing list. On 2024-11-25 13:56, Richard Laager wrote: > MICE is migrating mailing lists to new infrastructure. > > ipHouse is winding down / spinning off certain operations. I want to > thank ipHouse for their support of MICE over many years. In > particular, I want to thank Doug McIntyre for years of work. > > The web interface will be available at https://lists.micemn.net and > the lists will be the same names but at the new domain, i.e. > mice-discuss(a)lists.micemn.net and mice-announce(a)lists.micemn.net. > > I am transferring all subscriptions. You will shortly receive an > invitation message. In theory, no action is necessary, and hopefully > this all just works. :) > > For those of you with digest subscriptions, I will manually change > your setting to digest after importing your address. So give me a few > minutes. > > The external provider will be importing the archives shortly. Again, > hopefully that works. It will not include this message, since this is > after I exported the archives. > > Also, the MICE board now have personal @micemn.net emails: > > Anthony Anderberg <ant(a)micemn.net> > Reid Fishler <rfishler(a)micemn.net> > Richard Laager <rlaager(a)micemn.net> > -- Richard Laager Chief Manager, Director Midwest Internet Cooperative Exchange LLC

Nov. 25, 2024

MICE Server Updates

by Cameron Skappel

I plan to update the MICE servers and firewalls Monday November 25th at 13:00 Central and Tuesday November 26th at 14:30 Central. I will do one route server per day. -- Cameron

Nov. 22, 2024

Re: [EXTERNAL] - Re: [MICE-DISCUSS] netflix/tyson

by Ben Wiechman

Our levels of network traffic were lower than a typical Thursday Night Football event so the overall bandwidth utilization was not a factor. We had similar reports from our employees that the experience was hit and miss on many different service providers: Arvig, various employees are on other service providers, and mobile. One employee reported a better experience connecting to a VPN that terminated in TX than using any local connections. We also noted that while the fight would not load, other Netflix content tended to load and playback without issues or the same delays. On most tries I was unable to get video content for the fight to play at all, but attempts to then load any other Netflix content popped up in what I was describe as fairly typical response times. Traffic to our caches initially spiked, then crashed to nothing, then recovered at relatively heavy levels. We weren't seeing evidence of network congestion. My opinion is that, beyond that initial surge of traffic to the caches, the issue was less network or cache capacity than it was an ability of the client to access the resources that redirected it to the correct CDN for the content. The only possible workaround we discussed was shutting down the cache or access to the cache, but that was not a direction we chose to go down. Untested and not ideal given that there were no guarantees that Netflix would redirect subscribers to another CDN gracefully, or that another CDN would have any more additional capacity. Keep in mind that Netflix will be hosting a couple of Christmas NFL football games. A quick Google search suggests that typical Thanksgiving games run around 30M viewers, so half+ the load that this event generated, but still something to consider. Ben Wiechman Director of Network Strategy and Engineering 320.247.3224 | ben.wiechman(a)arvig.com Arvig | 224 East Main Street | Melrose, MN 56352 | arvig.com On Mon, Nov 18, 2024 at 1:46 PM Joe Unger <joe(a)vaultas.com> wrote: > I was streaming at home from my Comcast/Xfinity coax connection , and had > a terrible experience for most of the last 3 fights to the point it was > completely unwatchable at times. I was texting with friends and family from > all over the midwest and everyone I spoke with experienced buffering, > freezing and outages. From the small amount of data I have it appears the > cable providers suffered the most (Comcast, Spectrum & Cox). > > I haven't seen or heard of any definitive choke points as of yet. I > thought it might have been a perfect storm of; Netflix cloud infrastructure > issues and network congestion issues. > > I saw reports of 60 million+ users streaming the fight. > > It's clear things broke, and now there are elements to fix and make > better. > > On Fri, Nov 15, 2024 at 11:02 PM Miles McCredie <Miles.McCredie(a)midco.com> > wrote: > >> If there are folks interested in collaborating on a post-mortem, count me >> in. >> >> >> >> We’re getting complaints. Haven’t identified any obvious on-net issues >> (yet?). >> >> >> >> I’m actually remote and streaming on Comcast which has been mostly OK >> with a couple “stream not available” errors. >> >> >> >> Roughly 3x normal Netflix peaks. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> *Miles McCredie * >> Principal Network Engineer II-Core IP >> >> Office: 6052755192 >> Miles.McCredie(a)midco.com >> >> *Midco.com* >> >> Let's go beyond. >> >> *From:* MICE Discuss <MICE-DISCUSS(a)LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET> *On Behalf Of *Richard >> Laager >> *Sent:* Friday, November 15, 2024 10:31 PM >> *To:* MICE-DISCUSS(a)LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET >> *Subject:* [EXTERNAL] - Re: [MICE-DISCUSS] netflix/tyson >> >> >> >> *CAUTION:* This email originated from outside of *MIDCO*. >> *Do not click links or open attachments unless you recognize the sender >> and know the content is safe.* >> >> I'm seeing issues depending on which Netflix cache I hit. It fails to >> show the live event when the client picks mine (which I know to be serving >> large amounts of data, but well within its capacity, and serves other >> content just fine), or that of one of my upstreams. But other caches work >> fine. >> >> -- >> >> Richard >> >> >> ------------------------------ >> >> To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: >> http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1 >> >> ------------------------------ >> >> To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: >> http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1 >> > > > -- > Joe Unger > 612.709.8699 > joe(a)vaultas.com > Vaultas | *Connecting you to the Ecosystem* > vaultas.com > > ------------------------------ > > To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: > http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1 >

Nov. 18, 2024