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UG 46 Meeting & Election

by Richard Laager

The MICE UG 46 meeting will be held Wednesday, October 9, 3:00 pm at UMN and via Zoom. Parking, etc. details same as before: https://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?A2=MICE-DISCUSS;2c503e19.2209 * * *Zoom Details* https://umn.zoom.us/j/97601658469?pwd=C6JWkmoYfB9WjZsnRPr9S5u1l4Zkuz.1 ID: 94910223662, passcode: Jp74Et 651-372-8299, meeting ID 97601658469, passcode 864193 * * *Nominations* We will be holding an election for a board seat. The board consists of three seats with staggered terms, such that one seat comes up for re-election each year (at the fall meeting). This year, Reid's seat is up for election. As in the past, we will close nominations in advance of the meeting so people have a chance to instruct a proxy appropriately. *Nominations will be open for two weeks, September 23 - October 6. *I plan to send reminder emails approximately at the start of and just after the nomination period. In the event that the election is uncontested, our practice is to elect by acclimation at the meeting. Proxies are unnecessary in that situation, assuming that the meeting makes quorum. *Proxies * The bylaws state that you send proxies to the Chief Manager (me, Richard Laager), and electronic means are acceptable. So a simple email is sufficient: rlaager(a)wiktel.com or chiefmanager(a)micemn.net. If you send me a /vote/ by email (e.g. "We vote for <X>."), I will treat it as an a proxy appointment, appointing me to vote on your behalf, but restricted to /only/ the election item and to /only/ vote for the candidate you expressed. If you send me a proxy with different instructions (e.g. "We appoint <Y> to vote for us."), obviously that will be honored as written. -- Richard

June 22, 2024

Re: outage of some sort last night

by Justin Krejci

There was a small thread on the NANOG list about some kind of multi-hour issue, indicating some kind of impact with HE related services. Nothing conclusive and no post-mortem was posted there. That thread starts here: https://mailman.nanog.org/pipermail/nanog/2024-June/225818.html -----Original Message----- From: Frank Bulk <fbulk(a)MYPREMIERONLINE.COM<mailto:Frank%20Bulk%20%3cfbulk@MYPREMIERONLINE.COM%3e>> Reply-To: MICE Discuss <MICE-DISCUSS(a)LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET<mailto:MICE%20Discuss%20%3cMICE-DISCUSS@LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET%3e>> To: MICE-DISCUSS(a)LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET<mailto:MICE-DISCUSS@LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET> Subject: Re: [MICE-DISCUSS] outage of some sort last night Date: Mon, 17 Jun 2024 14:16:15 +0000 I didn’t hear anything about it – any more details? Frank [cid:a1ff5d57-4afc-4ec0-be61-51708bf94a4e.png] Frank Bulk Chief Technology Officer / Chief Operating Officer [PremierComm_logo_CMYK.png] 339 1st Ave NE | Sioux Center, IA 51250 | Find us on Facebook<https://www.facebook.com/PremierCommunicationsSiouxCenter> phone: 712.722.3451 web: mypremieronline.com<https://url-shield.securence.com/?p=1.0&r=jkrejci@usinternet.com&sid=171863…> direct: (712) 722-7152 cell: (712) 441-6049 From: MICE Discuss <MICE-DISCUSS(a)LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET> On Behalf Of Jeff Wilde Sent: Friday, June 14, 2024 9:10 AM To: MICE-DISCUSS(a)LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET Subject: [MICE-DISCUSS] outage of some sort last night Did anyone experience some type of odd outage in the middle of the night? Like before 5am? I don’t know if it was a dns issue or what, but it seems to have resolved itself. [A picture containing icon Description automatically generated] Jeff Wilde • Network Engineer • Park Region Office 218.826.6161 • Direct 218.826.8330 • Fax 218.826.6298 Links contained in this email have been replaced. If you click on a link in the email above, the link will be analyzed for known threats. If a known threat is found, you will not be able to proceed to the destination. If suspicious content is detected, you will see a warning. ________________________________ To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: https://link.edgepilot.com/s/9e422ac8/hmYVIamJ7UOmbSMGgETfmw?u=http://lists…<https://url-shield.securence.com/?p=1.0&r=jkrejci@usinternet.com&sid=171863…> ________________________________ To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1<https://url-shield.securence.com/?p=1.0&r=jkrejci@usinternet.com&sid=171863…>

June 17, 2024

Re: outage of some sort last night

by Frank Bulk

I didn't hear anything about it - any more details? Frank [cid:a1ff5d57-4afc-4ec0-be61-51708bf94a4e.png] Frank Bulk Chief Technology Officer / Chief Operating Officer [cid:premiercomm_logo_cmyk_1388ffcb-8ec0-4842-9e40-a0e598482e7d.png] 339 1st Ave NE | Sioux Center, IA 51250 | Find us on Facebook<https://www.facebook.com/PremierCommunicationsSiouxCenter> phone: 712.722.3451 web: mypremieronline.com<https://www.mypremieronline.com/> direct: (712) 722-7152 cell: (712) 441-6049 From: MICE Discuss <MICE-DISCUSS(a)LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET> On Behalf Of Jeff Wilde Sent: Friday, June 14, 2024 9:10 AM To: MICE-DISCUSS(a)LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET Subject: [MICE-DISCUSS] outage of some sort last night Did anyone experience some type of odd outage in the middle of the night? Like before 5am? I don't know if it was a dns issue or what, but it seems to have resolved itself. [cid:image001.png@01DAC096.B159F120] Jeff Wilde * Network Engineer * Park Region Office 218.826.6161 * Direct 218.826.8330 * Fax 218.826.6298 Links contained in this email have been replaced. If you click on a link in the email above, the link will be analyzed for known threats. If a known threat is found, you will not be able to proceed to the destination. If suspicious content is detected, you will see a warning. ________________________________ To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: https://link.edgepilot.com/s/9e422ac8/hmYVIamJ7UOmbSMGgETfmw?u=http://lists…

June 17, 2024

Re: outage of some sort last night

by Justin Huffman

I've been looking into our network as well. Noticed outage from approximately 1 AM - 6:30 AM. Glad we aren't the only ones curious. _________________________________ Justin Huffman Long Lines Broadband 712-271-5902 (W) jhuffman(a)longlines.biz<mailto:jhuffman@longlines.biz> [LL new] [cid:image003.png@01DABE3A.D3FB18C0] From: MICE Discuss <MICE-DISCUSS(a)LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET> On Behalf Of Jeff Wilde Sent: Friday, June 14, 2024 9:10 AM To: MICE-DISCUSS(a)LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET Subject: [MICE-DISCUSS] outage of some sort last night WARNING!! This message originated from an External Source. Please use proper judgment and caution when opening attachments, clicking links, or responding to this email. Did anyone experience some type of odd outage in the middle of the night? Like before 5am? I don't know if it was a dns issue or what, but it seems to have resolved itself. [A picture containing icon Description automatically generated] Jeff Wilde * Network Engineer * Park Region Office 218.826.6161 * Direct 218.826.8330 * Fax 218.826.6298 ________________________________ To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1

June 14, 2024

outage of some sort last night

by Jeff Wilde

Did anyone experience some type of odd outage in the middle of the night? Like before 5am? I don't know if it was a dns issue or what, but it seems to have resolved itself. [A picture containing icon Description automatically generated] Jeff Wilde * Network Engineer * Park Region Office 218.826.6161 * Direct 218.826.8330 * Fax 218.826.6298

June 14, 2024

Re: Link to Ridgeview down

by Jay Hanke

I mistyped, 1830 hours On Mon, Jun 10, 2024 at 4:37 PM Jay Hanke <jayhanke(a)southfront.io> wrote: > > Update- > > Splicers are onsite and have an ETTR of 1630 hrs. > > On Mon, Jun 10, 2024 at 12:05 PM Jeremy Lumby <jlumby(a)mnvoip.com> wrote: > > > > An FYI that we are aware that the link between the MICE core switch @ 511, > > and the MICE core switch @ Ridgeview is down. There is a complete loss of > > light. I have contacted the dark fiber provider to begin troubleshooting > > the link. > > > > Jeremy Lumby > > Minnesota VoIP > > 9217 17th Ave S #216 > > Bloomington MN 55425 > > Main 612-355-7740 x211 > > Direct 612-392-6814 > > Fax 952-873-7425 > > jlumby(a)mnvoip.com

June 10, 2024

Re: Link to Ridgeview down

by Jay Hanke

Update- Splicers are onsite and have an ETTR of 1630 hrs. On Mon, Jun 10, 2024 at 12:05 PM Jeremy Lumby <jlumby(a)mnvoip.com> wrote: > > An FYI that we are aware that the link between the MICE core switch @ 511, > and the MICE core switch @ Ridgeview is down. There is a complete loss of > light. I have contacted the dark fiber provider to begin troubleshooting > the link. > > Jeremy Lumby > Minnesota VoIP > 9217 17th Ave S #216 > Bloomington MN 55425 > Main 612-355-7740 x211 > Direct 612-392-6814 > Fax 952-873-7425 > jlumby(a)mnvoip.com

June 10, 2024

Link to Ridgeview down

by Jeremy Lumby

An FYI that we are aware that the link between the MICE core switch @ 511, and the MICE core switch @ Ridgeview is down. There is a complete loss of light. I have contacted the dark fiber provider to begin troubleshooting the link. Jeremy Lumby Minnesota VoIP 9217 17th Ave S #216 Bloomington MN 55425 Main 612-355-7740 x211 Direct 612-392-6814 Fax 952-873-7425 jlumby(a)mnvoip.com

June 10, 2024

Stealth Broadband has left MICE

by Jeremy Lumby

Stealth Broadband has left MICE. If you have any bilaterals to 206.108.255.69 or 2001:504:27:0:6:07BA::1 please remove them. Jeremy Lumby Minnesota VoIP 9217 17th Ave S #216 Bloomington MN 55425 Main 612-355-7740 x211 Direct 612-392-6814 Fax 952-873-7425 jlumby(a)mnvoip.com

June 4, 2024

Please welcome Akamai Technologies Inc. to MICE!

by Jeremy Lumby

Name: Akamai Technologies Inc. Switch: MICE 511 Core Port: E5/7/1 (added to po19) ASN: 20940 IPv4: IPs remain the same. This is a port upgrade to 5x100G and 4x100G IPv6: Peering Contact: peering(a)akamai.com Route Servers: YES Welcome Aboard Again! Jeremy Lumby Minnesota VoIP 9217 17th Ave S #216 Bloomington, MN 55425 Main: 612-355-7740 Direct: 612-392-6814 Fax: 952-873-7425 jlumby(a)mnvoip.com

June 4, 2024

Re: Minnesota Repeals Municipal Broadband Restrictions

by David Farmer

On Fri, May 24, 2024 at 3:21 PM Richard Laager < 0000001e0910bbd6-dmarc-request(a)lists.iphouse.net> wrote: > On 2024-05-24 14:32, Asp, David wrote: > > Minnesota Strikes Down Preemption Laws Blocking Municipal Broadband | > Welcome to Community Networks (communitynets.org) > <https://communitynets.org/content/minnesota-strikes-down-preemption-laws-bl…> > > The scary part of this is the "where it cannot agree with the owner on > price, it may acquire an existing plant by condemnation." In other words, a > city can use eminent domain to take a private company's network. There is, > AFAIK, no statutory restrictions limiting this to cases where the private > company is e.g. abandoning/neglecting traditional telephone service. And > with the unfortunate Kelo v. City of New London SCOTUS decision, cities' > eminent domain power is incredibly broad: they can take private property > and give it to another private entity. Hopefully this is not abused. > Minnesota Law seems to deal with at least some of the issues of Kelo v. City of New London; https://www.lrl.mn.gov/guides/guides?issue=eminentdomain -- =============================================== David Farmer Email:farmer@umn.edu Networking & Telecommunication Services Office of Information Technology University of Minnesota 2218 University Ave SE Phone: 612-626-0815 Minneapolis, MN 55414-3029 Cell: 612-812-9952 ===============================================

May 24, 2024

Re: Minnesota Repeals Municipal Broadband Restrictions

by Richard Laager

On 2024-05-24 14:32, Asp, David wrote: > > Minnesota Strikes Down Preemption Laws Blocking Municipal Broadband | > Welcome to Community Networks (communitynets.org) > <https://communitynets.org/content/minnesota-strikes-down-preemption-laws-bl…> > The scary part of this is the "where it cannot agree with the owner on price, it may acquire an existing plant by condemnation." In other words, a city can use eminent domain to take a private company's network. There is, AFAIK, no statutory restrictions limiting this to cases where the private company is e.g. abandoning/neglecting traditional telephone service. And with the unfortunate Kelo v. City of New London SCOTUS decision, cities' eminent domain power is incredibly broad: they can take private property and give it to another private entity. Hopefully this is not abused. -- Richard

May 24, 2024

Re: Minnesota Repeals Municipal Broadband Restrictions

by Asp, David

Minnesota Strikes Down Preemption Laws Blocking Municipal Broadband | Welcome to Community Networks (communitynets.org)<https://communitynets.org/content/minnesota-strikes-down-preemption-laws-bl…> More information. David Asp Network Collaboration Engineer [cid:image001.png@01DAADE7.46075FF0] 1590 Highway 55, Hastings, MN 55033 Office: 651-438-4271 Mobile: 715-410-1837 From: MICE Discuss <MICE-DISCUSS(a)LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET> On Behalf Of David Farmer Sent: Friday, May 24, 2024 2:30 PM To: MICE-DISCUSS(a)LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET Subject: [MICE-DISCUSS] Minnesota Repeals Municipal Broadband Restrictions ________________________________ WARNING: External email. Please verify sender before opening attachments or clicking on links. ________________________________ https://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2024/05/another-us-state-repeals-law-th… Minnesota this week eliminated two laws that made it harder for cities and towns to build their own broadband networks. The state-imposed restrictions were repealed in an omnibus commerce policy bill signed on Tuesday by Gov. Tim Walz, a Democrat. .... -- =============================================== David Farmer Email:farmer@umn.edu<mailto:Email%3Afarmer@umn.edu> Networking & Telecommunication Services Office of Information Technology University of Minnesota 2218 University Ave SE Phone: 612-626-0815 Minneapolis, MN 55414-3029 Cell: 612-812-9952 =============================================== ________________________________ To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1<https://linkprotect.cudasvc.com/url?a=http%3a%2f%2flists.iphouse.net%2fcgi-…> ________________________________ Note: This email and its attachments may contain information protected by state or federal law or that may not otherwise be disclosed. If you received this in error, please notify the sender immediately and delete this email and its attachments from all devices.

May 24, 2024

Minnesota Repeals Municipal Broadband Restrictions

by David Farmer

https://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2024/05/another-us-state-repeals-law-th… Minnesota this week eliminated two laws that made it harder for cities and towns to build their own broadband networks. The state-imposed restrictions were repealed in an omnibus commerce policy bill signed on Tuesday by Gov. Tim Walz, a Democrat. .... -- =============================================== David Farmer Email:farmer@umn.edu Networking & Telecommunication Services Office of Information Technology University of Minnesota 2218 University Ave SE Phone: 612-626-0815 Minneapolis, MN 55414-3029 Cell: 612-812-9952 ===============================================

May 24, 2024

Re: Traffic spike starting at 2:00am today

by Jeremy Lumby

I have seen that in the past that there is a limit that Cacti thinks is an error if it goes above. I know Anthony has had to adjust that setting for other ports in the past. Since this is the first time for Cloudflare has moved that much traffic, it is the first time we have had a chance to notice it. From: MICE Discuss <MICE-DISCUSS(a)LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET> On Behalf Of Jonathan Stewart Sent: Friday, May 24, 2024 2:14 PM To: MICE-DISCUSS(a)LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET Subject: Re: [MICE-DISCUSS] Traffic spike starting at 2:00am today Also noticed: The Port-Channel13 graph (For Cloudflare) broke at about 02:30 as it passed 80 Gbps, and remained blank for an hour.. Maybe something with counters rolling over too quickly? Jonathan Stewart Network Engineer LES.NET - AS18451 Desk: 1-204-666-6191 Mobile: 1-204-990-2120 130 Portage Avenue E Winnipeg, MB R3C 0A1 CANADA On Fri, 2024-05-24 2:04 p.m., Justin Krejci wrote: I have found the Fastly team to be very competent and helpful. We currently have a couple of PNIs with them, and we saw the same spike in traffic from numerous of our peers, including Fastly. If you have a large amount of traffic volume exchanged with Fastly, you should explore getting some PNI connectivity with them. -----Original Message----- From: Josh Hoppes <Josh.Hoppes(a)CFUNET.NET <mailto:Josh%20Hoppes%20%3cJosh.Hoppes@CFUNET.NET%3e> > Reply-To: MICE Discuss <MICE-DISCUSS(a)LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET <mailto:MICE%20Discuss%20%3cMICE-DISCUSS@LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET%3e> > To: MICE-DISCUSS(a)LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET <mailto:MICE-DISCUSS@LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET> Subject: Re: [MICE-DISCUSS] Traffic spike starting at 2:00am today Date: Fri, 24 May 2024 18:10:17 +0000 We noticed more traffic from Fastly reaching us via transits a while back and had reached out to them back in the beginning of April. Their network operations team had this to say: The traffic you're seeing on transit has been driven by overall capacity limits on our MICE ports. (There are multiple ASNs whose traffic is "contributing" to this constraint.) We have automated traffic engineering systems which will divert "overflow" traffic to alternate paths - usually transit, as you've been seeing - when demand for direct peering paths is higher than available capacity. We recognize this is suboptimal, and the Fastly infrastructure management team is actively working on targeted upgrades and peering additions in Minneapolis. I don't have a specific timeline, but can confirm it is an active priority and should help to alleviate the need for transit overflow. From: MICE Discuss <mailto:MICE-DISCUSS@LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET> <MICE-DISCUSS(a)LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET> On Behalf Of Jeremy Lumby Sent: Friday, May 24, 2024 12:39 PM To: MICE-DISCUSS(a)LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET <mailto:MICE-DISCUSS@LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET> Subject: Re: [MICE-DISCUSS] Traffic spike starting at 2:00am today CAUTION: This email originated from outside of the organization. Do not click links or open attachments unless you recognize the sender and know the content is safe. They have been in need of an upgrade for a while. They have not responded to my emails. From: MICE Discuss <MICE-DISCUSS(a)LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET <mailto:MICE-DISCUSS@LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET> > On Behalf Of Jonathan Stewart Sent: Friday, May 24, 2024 12:37 PM To: MICE-DISCUSS(a)LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET <mailto:MICE-DISCUSS@LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET> Subject: Re: [MICE-DISCUSS] Traffic spike starting at 2:00am today What or who is the source of this traffic, anyone know? A CDN maybe? Oh wait, I can answer my own question using micelg.usinternet.com: Fastly AS54113. Both 100G links are at 90% since 03:00 till now. Wow. Jonathan Stewart Network Engineer LES.NET - AS18451 Desk: 1-204-666-6191 Mobile: 1-204-990-2120 130 Portage Avenue E Winnipeg, MB R3C 0A1 CANADA On Fri, 2024-05-24 10:30 a.m., Jay Hanke wrote: It's ok if you guys play Fortnite... :) On Fri, May 24, 2024 at 10:25 AM Brandon Mickelson <bmick(a)rrv.net <mailto:bmick@rrv.net> > wrote: My 11 year old said it was a new season of Fortnite is today. Brandon Mickelson Halstad Telephone Company brandon.mickelson(a)halstadtel.com <mailto:bmick@rrv.net> 218-456-2125 x227 1-800-457-2125 From: MICE Discuss <MICE-DISCUSS(a)LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET <mailto:MICE-DISCUSS@LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET> > On Behalf Of Dean Bahls Sent: Friday, May 24, 2024 9:39 AM To: MICE-DISCUSS(a)LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET <mailto:MICE-DISCUSS@LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET> Subject: [MICE-DISCUSS] Traffic spike starting at 2:00am today Curious if anyone knows why we are seeing about 25-30% increase in traffic today. Some big updates going on perhaps? Thanks, Dean Dean Bahls COO | Fiber Minnesota & Aurora Fiber Optic Networks 14 Main St SW | PO Box J | Menahga, MN 56464 218.564-1321 (Direct) | 218.564.3000 (Main Office) <mailto:dean.bahls@fiberminnesota.com> dean.bahls(a)fiberminnesota.com _____ To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS <https://url-shield.securence.com/?p=1.0&r=jkrejci@usinternet.com&sid=171657…> &A=1 _____ To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS <https://url-shield.securence.com/?p=1.0&r=jkrejci@usinternet.com&sid=171657…> &A=1 _____ To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS <https://url-shield.securence.com/?p=1.0&r=jkrejci@usinternet.com&sid=171657…> &A=1 _____ To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS <https://url-shield.securence.com/?p=1.0&r=jkrejci@usinternet.com&sid=171657…> &A=1 _____ To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS <https://url-shield.securence.com/?p=1.0&r=jkrejci@usinternet.com&sid=171657…> &A=1 _____ To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS <https://url-shield.securence.com/?p=1.0&r=jkrejci@usinternet.com&sid=171657…> &A=1 _____ To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS <http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1> &A=1 _____ To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS <http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1> &A=1

May 24, 2024

Re: Traffic spike starting at 2:00am today

by Jonathan Stewart

Also noticed: The Port-Channel13 graph (For Cloudflare) broke at about 02:30 as it passed 80 Gbps, and remained blank for an hour.. Maybe something with counters rolling over too quickly? Jonathan Stewart Network Engineer LES.NET - AS18451 Desk: 1-204-666-6191 Mobile: 1-204-990-2120 130 Portage Avenue E Winnipeg, MB R3C 0A1 CANADA On Fri, 2024-05-24 2:04 p.m., Justin Krejci wrote: > I have found the Fastly team to be very competent and helpful. > We currently have a couple of PNIs with them, and we saw the same > spike in traffic from numerous of our peers, including Fastly. > If you have a large amount of traffic volume exchanged with Fastly, > you should explore getting some PNI connectivity with them. > > > > -----Original Message----- > *From*: Josh Hoppes <Josh.Hoppes(a)CFUNET.NET > <mailto:Josh%20Hoppes%20%3cJosh.Hoppes@CFUNET.NET%3e>> > *Reply-To*: MICE Discuss <MICE-DISCUSS(a)LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET > <mailto:MICE%20Discuss%20%3cMICE-DISCUSS@LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET%3e>> > *To*: MICE-DISCUSS(a)LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET > *Subject*: Re: [MICE-DISCUSS] Traffic spike starting at 2:00am today > *Date*: Fri, 24 May 2024 18:10:17 +0000 > > We noticed more traffic from Fastly reaching us via transits a while > back and had reached out to them back in the beginning of April. Their > network operations team had this to say: > > The traffic you're seeing on transit has been driven by overall > capacity limits on our MICE ports. (There are multiple ASNs whose > traffic is "contributing" to this constraint.) We have automated > traffic engineering systems which will divert "overflow" traffic to > alternate paths - usually transit, as you've been seeing - when demand > for direct peering paths is higher than available capacity. > > We recognize this is suboptimal, and the Fastly infrastructure > management team is actively working on targeted upgrades and peering > additions in Minneapolis. I don't have a specific timeline, but can > confirm it is an active priority and should help to alleviate the need > for transit overflow. > > *From:* MICE Discuss <MICE-DISCUSS(a)LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET> *On Behalf Of > *Jeremy Lumby > *Sent:* Friday, May 24, 2024 12:39 PM > *To:* MICE-DISCUSS(a)LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET > *Subject:* Re: [MICE-DISCUSS] Traffic spike starting at 2:00am today > > *CAUTION:*This email originated from outside of the organization. Do > not click links or open attachments unless you recognize the sender > and know the content is safe. > > They have been in need of an upgrade for a while. They have not > responded to my emails. > > *From:* MICE Discuss <MICE-DISCUSS(a)LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET> *On Behalf Of > *Jonathan Stewart > *Sent:* Friday, May 24, 2024 12:37 PM > *To:* MICE-DISCUSS(a)LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET > *Subject:* Re: [MICE-DISCUSS] Traffic spike starting at 2:00am today > > What or who is the source of this traffic, anyone know? > > A CDN maybe? > > Oh wait, I can answer my own question using micelg.usinternet.com: > > Fastly AS54113. Both 100G links are at 90% since 03:00 till now. Wow. > > Jonathan Stewart > > Network Engineer > > LES.NET - AS18451 > > Desk: 1-204-666-6191 > > Mobile: 1-204-990-2120 > > 130 Portage Avenue E > > Winnipeg, MB R3C 0A1 > > CANADA > > > On Fri, 2024-05-24 10:30 a.m., Jay Hanke wrote: > > >> It's ok if you guys play Fortnite... >> >> :) >> >> On Fri, May 24, 2024 at 10:25 AM Brandon Mickelson <bmick(a)rrv.net> >> wrote: >> >> >>> My 11 year old said it was a new season of Fortnite is today. >>> >>> Brandon Mickelson >>> >>> Halstad Telephone Company >>> >>> brandon.mickelson(a)halstadtel.com <mailto:bmick@rrv.net> >>> >>> 218-456-2125 x227 >>> >>> 1-800-457-2125 >>> >>> *From:* MICE Discuss <MICE-DISCUSS(a)LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET> *On Behalf Of >>> *Dean Bahls >>> *Sent:* Friday, May 24, 2024 9:39 AM >>> *To:* MICE-DISCUSS(a)LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET >>> *Subject:* [MICE-DISCUSS] Traffic spike starting at 2:00am today >>> >>> Curious if anyone knows why we are seeing about 25-30% increase in >>> traffic today. Some big updates going on perhaps? >>> >>> Thanks, >>> >>> Dean >>> >>> *Dean Bahls* >>> >>> **COO | Fiber Minnesota & Aurora Fiber Optic Networks >>> >>> 14 Main St SW | PO Box J | Menahga, MN 56464 >>> >>> *218.564-1321 (Direct)* | 218.564.3000 (Main Office) >>> >>> dean.bahls(a)fiberminnesota.com <mailto:dean.bahls@fiberminnesota.com> >>> >>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------ >>> >>> To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: >>> http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1 >>> <https://url-shield.securence.com/?p=1.0&r=jkrejci@usinternet.com&sid=171657…> >>> >>> >>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------ >>> >>> To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: >>> http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1 >>> <https://url-shield.securence.com/?p=1.0&r=jkrejci@usinternet.com&sid=171657…> >>> >>> >> ------------------------------------------------------------------------ >> >> To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: >> http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1 >> <https://url-shield.securence.com/?p=1.0&r=jkrejci@usinternet.com&sid=171657…> >> >> > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: > http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1 > <https://url-shield.securence.com/?p=1.0&r=jkrejci@usinternet.com&sid=171657…> > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: > http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1 > <https://url-shield.securence.com/?p=1.0&r=jkrejci@usinternet.com&sid=171657…> > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: > http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1 > <https://url-shield.securence.com/?p=1.0&r=jkrejci@usinternet.com&sid=171657…> > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: > http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1 > <http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1> >

May 24, 2024

Re: Traffic spike starting at 2:00am today

by Justin Krejci

I have found the Fastly team to be very competent and helpful. We currently have a couple of PNIs with them, and we saw the same spike in traffic from numerous of our peers, including Fastly. If you have a large amount of traffic volume exchanged with Fastly, you should explore getting some PNI connectivity with them. -----Original Message----- From: Josh Hoppes <Josh.Hoppes(a)CFUNET.NET<mailto:Josh%20Hoppes%20%3cJosh.Hoppes@CFUNET.NET%3e>> Reply-To: MICE Discuss <MICE-DISCUSS(a)LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET<mailto:MICE%20Discuss%20%3cMICE-DISCUSS@LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET%3e>> To: MICE-DISCUSS(a)LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET<mailto:MICE-DISCUSS@LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET> Subject: Re: [MICE-DISCUSS] Traffic spike starting at 2:00am today Date: Fri, 24 May 2024 18:10:17 +0000 We noticed more traffic from Fastly reaching us via transits a while back and had reached out to them back in the beginning of April. Their network operations team had this to say: The traffic you're seeing on transit has been driven by overall capacity limits on our MICE ports. (There are multiple ASNs whose traffic is "contributing" to this constraint.) We have automated traffic engineering systems which will divert "overflow" traffic to alternate paths - usually transit, as you've been seeing - when demand for direct peering paths is higher than available capacity. We recognize this is suboptimal, and the Fastly infrastructure management team is actively working on targeted upgrades and peering additions in Minneapolis. I don't have a specific timeline, but can confirm it is an active priority and should help to alleviate the need for transit overflow. From: MICE Discuss <MICE-DISCUSS(a)LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET> On Behalf Of Jeremy Lumby Sent: Friday, May 24, 2024 12:39 PM To: MICE-DISCUSS(a)LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET Subject: Re: [MICE-DISCUSS] Traffic spike starting at 2:00am today CAUTION: This email originated from outside of the organization. Do not click links or open attachments unless you recognize the sender and know the content is safe. They have been in need of an upgrade for a while. They have not responded to my emails. From: MICE Discuss <MICE-DISCUSS(a)LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET<mailto:MICE-DISCUSS@LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET>> On Behalf Of Jonathan Stewart Sent: Friday, May 24, 2024 12:37 PM To: MICE-DISCUSS(a)LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET<mailto:MICE-DISCUSS@LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET> Subject: Re: [MICE-DISCUSS] Traffic spike starting at 2:00am today What or who is the source of this traffic, anyone know? A CDN maybe? Oh wait, I can answer my own question using micelg.usinternet.com: Fastly AS54113. Both 100G links are at 90% since 03:00 till now. Wow. Jonathan Stewart Network Engineer LES.NET - AS18451 Desk: 1-204-666-6191 Mobile: 1-204-990-2120 130 Portage Avenue E Winnipeg, MB R3C 0A1 CANADA On Fri, 2024-05-24 10:30 a.m., Jay Hanke wrote: It's ok if you guys play Fortnite... :) On Fri, May 24, 2024 at 10:25 AM Brandon Mickelson <bmick(a)rrv.net<mailto:bmick@rrv.net>> wrote: My 11 year old said it was a new season of Fortnite is today. Brandon Mickelson Halstad Telephone Company brandon.mickelson(a)halstadtel.com<mailto:bmick@rrv.net> 218-456-2125 x227 1-800-457-2125 From: MICE Discuss <MICE-DISCUSS(a)LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET<mailto:MICE-DISCUSS@LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET>> On Behalf Of Dean Bahls Sent: Friday, May 24, 2024 9:39 AM To: MICE-DISCUSS(a)LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET<mailto:MICE-DISCUSS@LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET> Subject: [MICE-DISCUSS] Traffic spike starting at 2:00am today Curious if anyone knows why we are seeing about 25-30% increase in traffic today. Some big updates going on perhaps? Thanks, Dean Dean Bahls COO | Fiber Minnesota & Aurora Fiber Optic Networks 14 Main St SW | PO Box J | Menahga, MN 56464 218.564-1321 (Direct) | 218.564.3000 (Main Office) dean.bahls(a)fiberminnesota.com<mailto:dean.bahls@fiberminnesota.com> [cid:image001.png@01DAADDB.B5D5C620] [cid:image002.jpg@01DAADDB.B5D5C620] ________________________________ To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1<https://url-shield.securence.com/?p=1.0&r=jkrejci@usinternet.com&sid=171657…> ________________________________ To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1<https://url-shield.securence.com/?p=1.0&r=jkrejci@usinternet.com&sid=171657…> ________________________________ To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1<https://url-shield.securence.com/?p=1.0&r=jkrejci@usinternet.com&sid=171657…> ________________________________ To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1<https://url-shield.securence.com/?p=1.0&r=jkrejci@usinternet.com&sid=171657…> ________________________________ To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1<https://url-shield.securence.com/?p=1.0&r=jkrejci@usinternet.com&sid=171657…> ________________________________ To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1<https://url-shield.securence.com/?p=1.0&r=jkrejci@usinternet.com&sid=171657…>

May 24, 2024

Re: Traffic spike starting at 2:00am today

by Josh Hoppes

We noticed more traffic from Fastly reaching us via transits a while back and had reached out to them back in the beginning of April. Their network operations team had this to say: The traffic you're seeing on transit has been driven by overall capacity limits on our MICE ports. (There are multiple ASNs whose traffic is "contributing" to this constraint.) We have automated traffic engineering systems which will divert "overflow" traffic to alternate paths - usually transit, as you've been seeing - when demand for direct peering paths is higher than available capacity. We recognize this is suboptimal, and the Fastly infrastructure management team is actively working on targeted upgrades and peering additions in Minneapolis. I don't have a specific timeline, but can confirm it is an active priority and should help to alleviate the need for transit overflow. From: MICE Discuss <MICE-DISCUSS(a)LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET> On Behalf Of Jeremy Lumby Sent: Friday, May 24, 2024 12:39 PM To: MICE-DISCUSS(a)LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET Subject: Re: [MICE-DISCUSS] Traffic spike starting at 2:00am today CAUTION: This email originated from outside of the organization. Do not click links or open attachments unless you recognize the sender and know the content is safe. They have been in need of an upgrade for a while. They have not responded to my emails. From: MICE Discuss <MICE-DISCUSS(a)LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET<mailto:MICE-DISCUSS@LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET>> On Behalf Of Jonathan Stewart Sent: Friday, May 24, 2024 12:37 PM To: MICE-DISCUSS(a)LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET<mailto:MICE-DISCUSS@LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET> Subject: Re: [MICE-DISCUSS] Traffic spike starting at 2:00am today What or who is the source of this traffic, anyone know? A CDN maybe? Oh wait, I can answer my own question using micelg.usinternet.com: Fastly AS54113. Both 100G links are at 90% since 03:00 till now. Wow. Jonathan Stewart Network Engineer LES.NET - AS18451 Desk: 1-204-666-6191 Mobile: 1-204-990-2120 130 Portage Avenue E Winnipeg, MB R3C 0A1 CANADA On Fri, 2024-05-24 10:30 a.m., Jay Hanke wrote: It's ok if you guys play Fortnite... :) On Fri, May 24, 2024 at 10:25 AM Brandon Mickelson <bmick(a)rrv.net<mailto:bmick@rrv.net>> wrote: My 11 year old said it was a new season of Fortnite is today. Brandon Mickelson Halstad Telephone Company brandon.mickelson(a)halstadtel.com<mailto:bmick@rrv.net> 218-456-2125 x227 1-800-457-2125 From: MICE Discuss <MICE-DISCUSS(a)LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET<mailto:MICE-DISCUSS@LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET>> On Behalf Of Dean Bahls Sent: Friday, May 24, 2024 9:39 AM To: MICE-DISCUSS(a)LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET<mailto:MICE-DISCUSS@LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET> Subject: [MICE-DISCUSS] Traffic spike starting at 2:00am today Curious if anyone knows why we are seeing about 25-30% increase in traffic today. Some big updates going on perhaps? Thanks, Dean Dean Bahls COO | Fiber Minnesota & Aurora Fiber Optic Networks 14 Main St SW | PO Box J | Menahga, MN 56464 218.564-1321 (Direct) | 218.564.3000 (Main Office) dean.bahls(a)fiberminnesota.com<mailto:dean.bahls@fiberminnesota.com> [cid:image001.png@01DAADDB.B5D5C620] [cid:image002.jpg@01DAADDB.B5D5C620] ________________________________ To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1 ________________________________ To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1 ________________________________ To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1 ________________________________ To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1 ________________________________ To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1

May 24, 2024

Re: Traffic spike starting at 2:00am today

by Andrew Johnson

guest/guest works, thank you. On Fri, May 24, 2024, 12:53 Ryan Rosenwald <ryan(a)goctc.com> wrote: > > > Isn’t it just guest/guest on the cacti MICE site? > > > > > > *RYAN* > > *ROSENWALD* > > Director of Sales > > (218) 454-1234 company > > (218) 454-1111 direct > > ryan(a)goctc.com > > *goctc.com <http://goctc.com>* *[image: fb]* > <https://www.facebook.com/connectctc>*[image: tw]* > <https://twitter.com/connectctc>*[image: yt]* > <https://youtu.be/A_tgcHZD6oA> > > [image: pic] > > > > > > *From:* MICE Discuss <MICE-DISCUSS(a)LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET> *On Behalf Of *Andrew > Johnson > *Sent:* Friday, May 24, 2024 12:51 PM > *To:* MICE-DISCUSS(a)LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET > *Subject:* Re: [MICE-DISCUSS] Traffic spike starting at 2:00am today > > > > CAUTION: This email originated from outside CTC. Do not open links or > attachments unless you are expecting this message and know they are safe. > > > > > > This might be a dumb question but is there a public login for non MICE > members to see the cacti graphs? > > > > On Fri, May 24, 2024, 12:42 David Farmer < > 0000000e7948cb21-dmarc-request(a)lists.iphouse.net> wrote: > > Since school is out for us, we only saw a 3 to 5 Gb burst of traffic for a > couple of hours starting at about 02:00. The source of the traffic for us > was Fastly and Akamai. > > > > On Fri, May 24, 2024 at 12:37 PM Jonathan Stewart <jonathan(a)les.net> > wrote: > > What or who is the source of this traffic, anyone know? > > A CDN maybe? > > Oh wait, I can answer my own question using micelg.usinternet.com: > > Fastly AS54113. Both 100G links are at 90% since 03:00 till now. Wow. > > > > Jonathan Stewart > > Network Engineer > > LES.NET - AS18451 > > Desk: 1-204-666-6191 > > Mobile: 1-204-990-2120 > > 130 Portage Avenue E > > Winnipeg, MB R3C 0A1 > > CANADA > > On Fri, 2024-05-24 10:30 a.m., Jay Hanke wrote: > > It's ok if you guys play Fortnite... > > > > :) > > > > > > On Fri, May 24, 2024 at 10:25 AM Brandon Mickelson <bmick(a)rrv.net> wrote: > > My 11 year old said it was a new season of Fortnite is today. > > > > Brandon Mickelson > > Halstad Telephone Company > > brandon.mickelson(a)halstadtel.com <bmick(a)rrv.net> > > 218-456-2125 x227 > > 1-800-457-2125 > > > > *From:* MICE Discuss <MICE-DISCUSS(a)LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET> *On Behalf Of *Dean > Bahls > *Sent:* Friday, May 24, 2024 9:39 AM > *To:* MICE-DISCUSS(a)LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET > *Subject:* [MICE-DISCUSS] Traffic spike starting at 2:00am today > > > > Curious if anyone knows why we are seeing about 25-30% increase in traffic > today. Some big updates going on perhaps? > > > > Thanks, > > > > Dean > > > > > > *Dean Bahls* > > COO | Fiber Minnesota & Aurora Fiber Optic Networks > > 14 Main St SW | PO Box J | Menahga, MN 56464 > > *218.564-1321 (Direct)* | 218.564.3000 (Main Office) > > dean.bahls(a)fiberminnesota.com > > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------ > > To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: > http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1 > > > ------------------------------ > > To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: > http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1 > > > ------------------------------ > > To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: > http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1 > > > ------------------------------ > > To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: > http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1 > > > > > -- > > =============================================== > David Farmer Email:farmer@umn.edu > Networking & Telecommunication Services > Office of Information Technology > University of Minnesota > 2218 University Ave SE Phone: 612-626-0815 > Minneapolis, MN 55414-3029 Cell: 612-812-9952 > =============================================== > > > ------------------------------ > > To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: > http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1 > > > ------------------------------ > > To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: > http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1 > > ------------------------------ > > To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: > http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1 >

May 24, 2024

Re: Traffic spike starting at 2:00am today

by Ryan Rosenwald

Isn’t it just guest/guest on the cacti MICE site? RYAN ROSENWALD Director of Sales (218) 454-1234 company (218) 454-1111 direct ryan(a)goctc.com<mailto:ryan@goctc.com> goctc.com [fb] <https://www.facebook.com/connectctc> [tw] <https://twitter.com/connectctc> [yt] <https://youtu.be/A_tgcHZD6oA> [pic] From: MICE Discuss <MICE-DISCUSS(a)LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET> On Behalf Of Andrew Johnson Sent: Friday, May 24, 2024 12:51 PM To: MICE-DISCUSS(a)LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET Subject: Re: [MICE-DISCUSS] Traffic spike starting at 2:00am today CAUTION: This email originated from outside CTC. Do not open links or attachments unless you are expecting this message and know they are safe. This might be a dumb question but is there a public login for non MICE members to see the cacti graphs? On Fri, May 24, 2024, 12:42 David Farmer <0000000e7948cb21-dmarc-request(a)lists.iphouse.net<mailto:0000000e7948cb21-dmarc-request@lists.iphouse.net>> wrote: Since school is out for us, we only saw a 3 to 5 Gb burst of traffic for a couple of hours starting at about 02:00. The source of the traffic for us was Fastly and Akamai. On Fri, May 24, 2024 at 12:37 PM Jonathan Stewart <jonathan(a)les.net<mailto:jonathan@les.net>> wrote: What or who is the source of this traffic, anyone know? A CDN maybe? Oh wait, I can answer my own question using micelg.usinternet.com<http://micelg.usinternet.com>: Fastly AS54113. Both 100G links are at 90% since 03:00 till now. Wow. Jonathan Stewart Network Engineer LES.NET<http://LES.NET> - AS18451 Desk: 1-204-666-6191 Mobile: 1-204-990-2120 130 Portage Avenue E Winnipeg, MB R3C 0A1 CANADA On Fri, 2024-05-24 10:30 a.m., Jay Hanke wrote: It's ok if you guys play Fortnite... :) On Fri, May 24, 2024 at 10:25 AM Brandon Mickelson <bmick(a)rrv.net<mailto:bmick@rrv.net>> wrote: My 11 year old said it was a new season of Fortnite is today. Brandon Mickelson Halstad Telephone Company brandon.mickelson(a)halstadtel.com<mailto:bmick@rrv.net> 218-456-2125 x227 1-800-457-2125 From: MICE Discuss <MICE-DISCUSS(a)LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET<mailto:MICE-DISCUSS@LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET>> On Behalf Of Dean Bahls Sent: Friday, May 24, 2024 9:39 AM To: MICE-DISCUSS(a)LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET<mailto:MICE-DISCUSS@LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET> Subject: [MICE-DISCUSS] Traffic spike starting at 2:00am today Curious if anyone knows why we are seeing about 25-30% increase in traffic today. Some big updates going on perhaps? Thanks, Dean Dean Bahls COO | Fiber Minnesota & Aurora Fiber Optic Networks 14 Main St SW | PO Box J | Menahga, MN 56464 218.564-1321 (Direct) | 218.564.3000 (Main Office) dean.bahls(a)fiberminnesota.com<mailto:dean.bahls@fiberminnesota.com> [cid:image005.png@01DAADD9.52A674C0] [cid:image006.jpg@01DAADD9.52A674C0] ________________________________ To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1 ________________________________ To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1 ________________________________ To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1 ________________________________ To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1 -- =============================================== David Farmer Email:farmer@umn.edu<mailto:Email%3Afarmer@umn.edu> Networking & Telecommunication Services Office of Information Technology University of Minnesota 2218 University Ave SE Phone: 612-626-0815 Minneapolis, MN 55414-3029 Cell: 612-812-9952 =============================================== ________________________________ To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1 ________________________________ To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1

May 24, 2024

Re: Traffic spike starting at 2:00am today

by Evan McCarthy

Username and password `guest` gives you access. On 2024-05-24 1:51 p.m., Andrew Johnson wrote: > This might be a dumb question but is there a public login for non MICE > members to see the cacti graphs? > > On Fri, May 24, 2024, 12:42 David Farmer > <0000000e7948cb21-dmarc-request(a)lists.iphouse.net> wrote: > > Since school is out for us, we only saw a 3 to 5 Gb burst of > traffic for a couple of hours starting at about 02:00. The source > of the traffic for us was Fastly and Akamai. > > On Fri, May 24, 2024 at 12:37 PM Jonathan Stewart > <jonathan(a)les.net> wrote: > > What or who is the source of this traffic, anyone know? > > A CDN maybe? > > Oh wait, I can answer my own question using > micelg.usinternet.com <http://micelg.usinternet.com>: > > Fastly AS54113. Both 100G links are at 90% since 03:00 till > now. Wow. > > > Jonathan Stewart > Network Engineer > LES.NET <http://LES.NET> - AS18451 > Desk: 1-204-666-6191 > Mobile: 1-204-990-2120 > 130 Portage Avenue E > Winnipeg, MB R3C 0A1 > CANADA > > On Fri, 2024-05-24 10:30 a.m., Jay Hanke wrote: >> It's ok if you guys play Fortnite... >> >> :) >> >> >> On Fri, May 24, 2024 at 10:25 AM Brandon Mickelson >> <bmick(a)rrv.net> wrote: >> >> My 11 year old said it was a new season of Fortnite is today. >> >> Brandon Mickelson >> >> Halstad Telephone Company >> >> brandon.mickelson(a)halstadtel.com <mailto:bmick@rrv.net> >> >> 218-456-2125 x227 >> >> 1-800-457-2125 >> >> *From:*MICE Discuss <MICE-DISCUSS(a)LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET> *On >> Behalf Of *Dean Bahls >> *Sent:* Friday, May 24, 2024 9:39 AM >> *To:* MICE-DISCUSS(a)LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET >> *Subject:* [MICE-DISCUSS] Traffic spike starting at >> 2:00am today >> >> Curious if anyone knows why we are seeing about 25-30% >> increase in traffic today. Some big updates going on >> perhaps? >> >> Thanks, >> >> Dean >> >> *Dean Bahls*** >> >> **COO | Fiber Minnesota & Aurora Fiber Optic Networks >> >> 14 Main St SW | PO Box J | Menahga, MN 56464 >> >> *218.564-1321 (Direct)* | 218.564.3000 (Main Office) >> >> dean.bahls(a)fiberminnesota.com >> <mailto:dean.bahls@fiberminnesota.com> >> >> ------------------------------------------------------------------------ >> >> To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the >> following link: >> http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1 >> <http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1> >> >> >> >> ------------------------------------------------------------------------ >> >> To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the >> following link: >> http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1 >> <http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1> >> >> >> >> ------------------------------------------------------------------------ >> >> To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the >> following link: >> http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1 >> <http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1> >> > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following > link: > http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1 > <http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1> > > > > -- > =============================================== > David Farmer Email:farmer@umn.edu <mailto:Email%3Afarmer@umn.edu> > Networking & Telecommunication Services > Office of Information Technology > University of Minnesota > 2218 University Ave SE Phone: 612-626-0815 > Minneapolis, MN 55414-3029 Cell: 612-812-9952 > =============================================== > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: > http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1 > <http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1> > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: > http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1 > <http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1> >

May 24, 2024

Re: Traffic spike starting at 2:00am today

by Jeremy Lumby

guest/guest From: MICE Discuss <MICE-DISCUSS(a)LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET> On Behalf Of Andrew Johnson Sent: Friday, May 24, 2024 12:51 PM To: MICE-DISCUSS(a)LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET Subject: Re: [MICE-DISCUSS] Traffic spike starting at 2:00am today This might be a dumb question but is there a public login for non MICE members to see the cacti graphs? On Fri, May 24, 2024, 12:42 David Farmer <0000000e7948cb21-dmarc-request(a)lists.iphouse.net <mailto:0000000e7948cb21-dmarc-request@lists.iphouse.net> > wrote: Since school is out for us, we only saw a 3 to 5 Gb burst of traffic for a couple of hours starting at about 02:00. The source of the traffic for us was Fastly and Akamai. On Fri, May 24, 2024 at 12:37 PM Jonathan Stewart <jonathan(a)les.net <mailto:jonathan@les.net> > wrote: What or who is the source of this traffic, anyone know? A CDN maybe? Oh wait, I can answer my own question using micelg.usinternet.com <http://micelg.usinternet.com> : Fastly AS54113. Both 100G links are at 90% since 03:00 till now. Wow. Jonathan Stewart Network Engineer LES.NET <http://LES.NET> - AS18451 Desk: 1-204-666-6191 Mobile: 1-204-990-2120 130 Portage Avenue E Winnipeg, MB R3C 0A1 CANADA On Fri, 2024-05-24 10:30 a.m., Jay Hanke wrote: It's ok if you guys play Fortnite... :) On Fri, May 24, 2024 at 10:25 AM Brandon Mickelson <bmick(a)rrv.net <mailto:bmick@rrv.net> > wrote: My 11 year old said it was a new season of Fortnite is today. Brandon Mickelson Halstad Telephone Company brandon.mickelson(a)halstadtel.com <mailto:bmick@rrv.net> 218-456-2125 x227 1-800-457-2125 From: MICE Discuss <MICE-DISCUSS(a)LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET <mailto:MICE-DISCUSS@LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET> > On Behalf Of Dean Bahls Sent: Friday, May 24, 2024 9:39 AM To: MICE-DISCUSS(a)LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET <mailto:MICE-DISCUSS@LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET> Subject: [MICE-DISCUSS] Traffic spike starting at 2:00am today Curious if anyone knows why we are seeing about 25-30% increase in traffic today. Some big updates going on perhaps? Thanks, Dean Dean Bahls COO | Fiber Minnesota & Aurora Fiber Optic Networks 14 Main St SW | PO Box J | Menahga, MN 56464 218.564-1321 (Direct) | 218.564.3000 (Main Office) <mailto:dean.bahls@fiberminnesota.com> dean.bahls(a)fiberminnesota.com _____ To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS <http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1> &A=1 _____ To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS <http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1> &A=1 _____ To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS <http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1> &A=1 _____ To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS <http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1> &A=1 -- =============================================== David Farmer Email:farmer@umn.edu <mailto:Email%3Afarmer@umn.edu> Networking & Telecommunication Services Office of Information Technology University of Minnesota 2218 University Ave SE Phone: 612-626-0815 Minneapolis, MN 55414-3029 Cell: 612-812-9952 =============================================== _____ To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS <http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1> &A=1 _____ To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS <http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1> &A=1

May 24, 2024

Re: Traffic spike starting at 2:00am today

by Andrew Johnson

This might be a dumb question but is there a public login for non MICE members to see the cacti graphs? On Fri, May 24, 2024, 12:42 David Farmer < 0000000e7948cb21-dmarc-request(a)lists.iphouse.net> wrote: > Since school is out for us, we only saw a 3 to 5 Gb burst of traffic for a > couple of hours starting at about 02:00. The source of the traffic for us > was Fastly and Akamai. > > On Fri, May 24, 2024 at 12:37 PM Jonathan Stewart <jonathan(a)les.net> > wrote: > >> What or who is the source of this traffic, anyone know? >> >> A CDN maybe? >> >> Oh wait, I can answer my own question using micelg.usinternet.com: >> >> Fastly AS54113. Both 100G links are at 90% since 03:00 till now. Wow. >> >> >> Jonathan Stewart >> Network EngineerLES.NET - AS18451 >> Desk: 1-204-666-6191 >> Mobile: 1-204-990-2120 >> 130 Portage Avenue E >> Winnipeg, MB R3C 0A1 >> CANADA >> >> On Fri, 2024-05-24 10:30 a.m., Jay Hanke wrote: >> >> It's ok if you guys play Fortnite... >> >> :) >> >> >> On Fri, May 24, 2024 at 10:25 AM Brandon Mickelson <bmick(a)rrv.net> wrote: >> >>> My 11 year old said it was a new season of Fortnite is today. >>> >>> >>> >>> Brandon Mickelson >>> >>> Halstad Telephone Company >>> >>> brandon.mickelson(a)halstadtel.com <bmick(a)rrv.net> >>> >>> 218-456-2125 x227 >>> >>> 1-800-457-2125 >>> >>> >>> >>> *From:* MICE Discuss <MICE-DISCUSS(a)LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET> *On Behalf Of *Dean >>> Bahls >>> *Sent:* Friday, May 24, 2024 9:39 AM >>> *To:* MICE-DISCUSS(a)LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET >>> *Subject:* [MICE-DISCUSS] Traffic spike starting at 2:00am today >>> >>> >>> >>> Curious if anyone knows why we are seeing about 25-30% increase in >>> traffic today. Some big updates going on perhaps? >>> >>> >>> >>> Thanks, >>> >>> >>> >>> Dean >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> *Dean Bahls* >>> >>> COO | Fiber Minnesota & Aurora Fiber Optic Networks >>> >>> 14 Main St SW | PO Box J | Menahga, MN 56464 >>> >>> *218.564-1321 (Direct)* | 218.564.3000 (Main Office) >>> >>> dean.bahls(a)fiberminnesota.com >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> ------------------------------ >>> >>> To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: >>> http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1 >>> >>> ------------------------------ >>> >>> To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: >>> http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1 >>> >> >> ------------------------------ >> >> To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: >> http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1 >> >> >> ------------------------------ >> >> To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: >> http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1 >> > > > -- > =============================================== > David Farmer Email:farmer@umn.edu > Networking & Telecommunication Services > Office of Information Technology > University of Minnesota > 2218 University Ave SE Phone: 612-626-0815 > Minneapolis, MN 55414-3029 Cell: 612-812-9952 > =============================================== > > ------------------------------ > > To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: > http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1 >

May 24, 2024

Re: Traffic spike starting at 2:00am today

by David Farmer

Since school is out for us, we only saw a 3 to 5 Gb burst of traffic for a couple of hours starting at about 02:00. The source of the traffic for us was Fastly and Akamai. On Fri, May 24, 2024 at 12:37 PM Jonathan Stewart <jonathan(a)les.net> wrote: > What or who is the source of this traffic, anyone know? > > A CDN maybe? > > Oh wait, I can answer my own question using micelg.usinternet.com: > > Fastly AS54113. Both 100G links are at 90% since 03:00 till now. Wow. > > > Jonathan Stewart > Network EngineerLES.NET - AS18451 > Desk: 1-204-666-6191 > Mobile: 1-204-990-2120 > 130 Portage Avenue E > Winnipeg, MB R3C 0A1 > CANADA > > On Fri, 2024-05-24 10:30 a.m., Jay Hanke wrote: > > It's ok if you guys play Fortnite... > > :) > > > On Fri, May 24, 2024 at 10:25 AM Brandon Mickelson <bmick(a)rrv.net> wrote: > >> My 11 year old said it was a new season of Fortnite is today. >> >> >> >> Brandon Mickelson >> >> Halstad Telephone Company >> >> brandon.mickelson(a)halstadtel.com <bmick(a)rrv.net> >> >> 218-456-2125 x227 >> >> 1-800-457-2125 >> >> >> >> *From:* MICE Discuss <MICE-DISCUSS(a)LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET> *On Behalf Of *Dean >> Bahls >> *Sent:* Friday, May 24, 2024 9:39 AM >> *To:* MICE-DISCUSS(a)LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET >> *Subject:* [MICE-DISCUSS] Traffic spike starting at 2:00am today >> >> >> >> Curious if anyone knows why we are seeing about 25-30% increase in >> traffic today. Some big updates going on perhaps? >> >> >> >> Thanks, >> >> >> >> Dean >> >> >> >> >> >> *Dean Bahls* >> >> COO | Fiber Minnesota & Aurora Fiber Optic Networks >> >> 14 Main St SW | PO Box J | Menahga, MN 56464 >> >> *218.564-1321 (Direct)* | 218.564.3000 (Main Office) >> >> dean.bahls(a)fiberminnesota.com >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> ------------------------------ >> >> To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: >> http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1 >> >> ------------------------------ >> >> To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: >> http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1 >> > > ------------------------------ > > To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: > http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1 > > > ------------------------------ > > To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: > http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1 > -- =============================================== David Farmer Email:farmer@umn.edu Networking & Telecommunication Services Office of Information Technology University of Minnesota 2218 University Ave SE Phone: 612-626-0815 Minneapolis, MN 55414-3029 Cell: 612-812-9952 ===============================================

May 24, 2024

Re: Traffic spike starting at 2:00am today

by Jeremy Lumby

They have been in need of an upgrade for a while. They have not responded to my emails. From: MICE Discuss <MICE-DISCUSS(a)LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET> On Behalf Of Jonathan Stewart Sent: Friday, May 24, 2024 12:37 PM To: MICE-DISCUSS(a)LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET Subject: Re: [MICE-DISCUSS] Traffic spike starting at 2:00am today What or who is the source of this traffic, anyone know? A CDN maybe? Oh wait, I can answer my own question using micelg.usinternet.com: Fastly AS54113. Both 100G links are at 90% since 03:00 till now. Wow. Jonathan Stewart Network Engineer LES.NET - AS18451 Desk: 1-204-666-6191 Mobile: 1-204-990-2120 130 Portage Avenue E Winnipeg, MB R3C 0A1 CANADA On Fri, 2024-05-24 10:30 a.m., Jay Hanke wrote: It's ok if you guys play Fortnite... :) On Fri, May 24, 2024 at 10:25 AM Brandon Mickelson <bmick(a)rrv.net <mailto:bmick@rrv.net> > wrote: My 11 year old said it was a new season of Fortnite is today. Brandon Mickelson Halstad Telephone Company brandon.mickelson(a)halstadtel.com <mailto:bmick@rrv.net> 218-456-2125 x227 1-800-457-2125 From: MICE Discuss <MICE-DISCUSS(a)LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET <mailto:MICE-DISCUSS@LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET> > On Behalf Of Dean Bahls Sent: Friday, May 24, 2024 9:39 AM To: MICE-DISCUSS(a)LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET <mailto:MICE-DISCUSS@LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET> Subject: [MICE-DISCUSS] Traffic spike starting at 2:00am today Curious if anyone knows why we are seeing about 25-30% increase in traffic today. Some big updates going on perhaps? Thanks, Dean Dean Bahls COO | Fiber Minnesota & Aurora Fiber Optic Networks 14 Main St SW | PO Box J | Menahga, MN 56464 218.564-1321 (Direct) | 218.564.3000 (Main Office) <mailto:dean.bahls@fiberminnesota.com> dean.bahls(a)fiberminnesota.com _____ To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS <http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1> &A=1 _____ To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS <http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1> &A=1 _____ To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS <http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1> &A=1 _____ To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS <http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1> &A=1

May 24, 2024

Re: Traffic spike starting at 2:00am today

by Jonathan Stewart

What or who is the source of this traffic, anyone know? A CDN maybe? Oh wait, I can answer my own question using micelg.usinternet.com: Fastly AS54113. Both 100G links are at 90% since 03:00 till now. Wow. Jonathan Stewart Network Engineer LES.NET - AS18451 Desk: 1-204-666-6191 Mobile: 1-204-990-2120 130 Portage Avenue E Winnipeg, MB R3C 0A1 CANADA On Fri, 2024-05-24 10:30 a.m., Jay Hanke wrote: > It's ok if you guys play Fortnite... > > :) > > > On Fri, May 24, 2024 at 10:25 AM Brandon Mickelson <bmick(a)rrv.net> wrote: > > My 11 year old said it was a new season of Fortnite is today. > > Brandon Mickelson > > Halstad Telephone Company > > brandon.mickelson(a)halstadtel.com <mailto:bmick@rrv.net> > > 218-456-2125 x227 > > 1-800-457-2125 > > *From:*MICE Discuss <MICE-DISCUSS(a)LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET> *On Behalf Of > *Dean Bahls > *Sent:* Friday, May 24, 2024 9:39 AM > *To:* MICE-DISCUSS(a)LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET > *Subject:* [MICE-DISCUSS] Traffic spike starting at 2:00am today > > Curious if anyone knows why we are seeing about 25-30% increase in > traffic today. Some big updates going on perhaps? > > Thanks, > > Dean > > *Dean Bahls*** > > **COO | Fiber Minnesota & Aurora Fiber Optic Networks > > 14 Main St SW | PO Box J | Menahga, MN 56464 > > *218.564-1321 (Direct)* | 218.564.3000 (Main Office) > > dean.bahls(a)fiberminnesota.com <mailto:dean.bahls@fiberminnesota.com> > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: > http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1 > <http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1> > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: > http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1 > <http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1> > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: > http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1 > <http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1> >

May 24, 2024

Re: Traffic spike starting at 2:00am today

by Jay Hanke

It's ok if you guys play Fortnite... :) On Fri, May 24, 2024 at 10:25 AM Brandon Mickelson <bmick(a)rrv.net> wrote: > My 11 year old said it was a new season of Fortnite is today. > > > > Brandon Mickelson > > Halstad Telephone Company > > brandon.mickelson(a)halstadtel.com <bmick(a)rrv.net> > > 218-456-2125 x227 > > 1-800-457-2125 > > > > *From:* MICE Discuss <MICE-DISCUSS(a)LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET> *On Behalf Of *Dean > Bahls > *Sent:* Friday, May 24, 2024 9:39 AM > *To:* MICE-DISCUSS(a)LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET > *Subject:* [MICE-DISCUSS] Traffic spike starting at 2:00am today > > > > Curious if anyone knows why we are seeing about 25-30% increase in traffic > today. Some big updates going on perhaps? > > > > Thanks, > > > > Dean > > > > > > *Dean Bahls* > > COO | Fiber Minnesota & Aurora Fiber Optic Networks > > 14 Main St SW | PO Box J | Menahga, MN 56464 > > *218.564-1321 (Direct)* | 218.564.3000 (Main Office) > > dean.bahls(a)fiberminnesota.com > > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------ > > To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: > http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1 > > ------------------------------ > > To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: > http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1 >

May 24, 2024

Re: Traffic spike starting at 2:00am today

by Jeremy Schmeichel

Actually, that makes sense. I seem to remember a pretty good spike in traffic most days there are Fortnite updates... ________________________________ From: MICE Discuss <MICE-DISCUSS(a)LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET> on behalf of Brandon Mickelson <bmick(a)RRV.NET> Sent: Friday, May 24, 2024 9:24 AM To: MICE-DISCUSS(a)LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET <MICE-DISCUSS(a)LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET> Subject: Re: [MICE-DISCUSS] Traffic spike starting at 2:00am today My 11 year old said it was a new season of Fortnite is today. Brandon Mickelson Halstad Telephone Company brandon.mickelson(a)halstadtel.com<mailto:bmick@rrv.net> 218-456-2125 x227 1-800-457-2125 From: MICE Discuss <MICE-DISCUSS(a)LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET> On Behalf Of Dean Bahls Sent: Friday, May 24, 2024 9:39 AM To: MICE-DISCUSS(a)LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET Subject: [MICE-DISCUSS] Traffic spike starting at 2:00am today Curious if anyone knows why we are seeing about 25-30% increase in traffic today. Some big updates going on perhaps? Thanks, Dean Dean Bahls COO | Fiber Minnesota & Aurora Fiber Optic Networks 14 Main St SW | PO Box J | Menahga, MN 56464 218.564-1321 (Direct) | 218.564.3000 (Main Office) dean.bahls(a)fiberminnesota.com<mailto:dean.bahls@fiberminnesota.com> [cid:image001.png@01DAADC4.82AF6920] [cid:image002.jpg@01DAADC4.82AF6920] ________________________________ To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1 ________________________________ To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1

May 24, 2024

Re: Traffic spike starting at 2:00am today

by Joe Unger

I heard the download is about 35GB in size vs typically routine updates of around 5-8GB. On Fri, May 24, 2024 at 10:25 AM Brandon Mickelson <bmick(a)rrv.net> wrote: > My 11 year old said it was a new season of Fortnite is today. > > > > Brandon Mickelson > > Halstad Telephone Company > > brandon.mickelson(a)halstadtel.com <bmick(a)rrv.net> > > 218-456-2125 x227 > > 1-800-457-2125 > > > > *From:* MICE Discuss <MICE-DISCUSS(a)LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET> *On Behalf Of *Dean > Bahls > *Sent:* Friday, May 24, 2024 9:39 AM > *To:* MICE-DISCUSS(a)LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET > *Subject:* [MICE-DISCUSS] Traffic spike starting at 2:00am today > > > > Curious if anyone knows why we are seeing about 25-30% increase in traffic > today. Some big updates going on perhaps? > > > > Thanks, > > > > Dean > > > > > > *Dean Bahls* > > COO | Fiber Minnesota & Aurora Fiber Optic Networks > > 14 Main St SW | PO Box J | Menahga, MN 56464 > > *218.564-1321 (Direct)* | 218.564.3000 (Main Office) > > dean.bahls(a)fiberminnesota.com > > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------ > > To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: > http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1 > > ------------------------------ > > To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: > http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1 > -- Joe Unger 612.709.8699 joe(a)vaultas.com Vaultas | *Connecting you to the Ecosystem* vaultas.com

May 24, 2024

Re: Traffic spike starting at 2:00am today

by Brandon Mickelson

My 11 year old said it was a new season of Fortnite is today. Brandon Mickelson Halstad Telephone Company <mailto:bmick@rrv.net> brandon.mickelson(a)halstadtel.com 218-456-2125 x227 1-800-457-2125 From: MICE Discuss <MICE-DISCUSS(a)LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET> On Behalf Of Dean Bahls Sent: Friday, May 24, 2024 9:39 AM To: MICE-DISCUSS(a)LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET Subject: [MICE-DISCUSS] Traffic spike starting at 2:00am today Curious if anyone knows why we are seeing about 25-30% increase in traffic today. Some big updates going on perhaps? Thanks, Dean Dean Bahls COO | Fiber Minnesota & Aurora Fiber Optic Networks 14 Main St SW | PO Box J | Menahga, MN 56464 218.564-1321 (Direct) | 218.564.3000 (Main Office) <mailto:dean.bahls@fiberminnesota.com> dean.bahls(a)fiberminnesota.com _____ To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS <http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1> &A=1

May 24, 2024

Re: Traffic spike starting at 2:00am today

by Ryan Nelson

A new update for Fortnite came out (or so my kids informed me before going to school). Ryan Nelson Research & Development Architect Office: (218) 336-2220 ryan.nelson(a)integrisit.com Integris Engage: Check out upcoming Education, Training & Networking From: MICE Discuss <MICE-DISCUSS(a)LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET> on behalf of Jeff Wilde <jeff.wilde(a)PARKREGION.COM> Date: Friday, May 24, 2024 at 9:41 AM To: MICE-DISCUSS(a)LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET <MICE-DISCUSS(a)LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET> Subject: Re: [MICE-DISCUSS] Traffic spike starting at 2:00am today EXTERNAL MESSAGE I think taylor swift is in Europe so we are good there 😊 [A picture containing icon Description automatically generated] Jeff Wilde • Network Engineer • Park Region Office 218.826.6161 • Direct 218.826.8330 • Fax 218.826.6298 From: MICE Discuss <MICE-DISCUSS(a)LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET> On Behalf Of Dean Bahls Sent: Friday, May 24, 2024 9:39 AM To: MICE-DISCUSS(a)LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET Subject: [MICE-DISCUSS] Traffic spike starting at 2:00am today Curious if anyone knows why we are seeing about 25-30% increase in traffic today. Some big updates going on perhaps? Thanks, Dean Dean Bahls COO | Fiber Minnesota & Aurora Fiber Optic Networks 14 Main St SW | PO Box J | Menahga, MN 56464 218.564-1321 (Direct) | 218.564.3000 (Main Office) dean.bahls(a)fiberminnesota.com<mailto:dean.bahls@fiberminnesota.com> [cid:image004.png@01DAADBE.72CB79A0] [cid:image005.jpg@01DAADBE.72CB79A0] ________________________________ To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1<https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__lists.iphouse.net_cgi-2…> ________________________________ To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1<https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__lists.iphouse.net_cgi-2…>

May 24, 2024

Re: [External] Re: [MICE-DISCUSS] Traffic spike starting at 2:00am today

by William Gemmill

[like] William Gemmill reacted to your message: ________________________________ From: MICE Discuss <MICE-DISCUSS(a)LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET> on behalf of Jeff Wilde <jeff.wilde(a)PARKREGION.COM> Sent: Friday, May 24, 2024 2:40:46 PM To: MICE-DISCUSS(a)LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET <MICE-DISCUSS(a)LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET> Subject: [External] Re: [MICE-DISCUSS] Traffic spike starting at 2:00am today CAUTION: This email was sent from outside of Hennepin County. Unless you recognize the sender and know the content, do not click links or open attachments. I think taylor swift is in Europe so we are good there 😊 [A picture containing icon Description automatically generated] Jeff Wilde • Network Engineer • Park Region Office 218.826.6161 • Direct 218.826.8330 • Fax 218.826.6298 From: MICE Discuss <MICE-DISCUSS(a)LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET> On Behalf Of Dean Bahls Sent: Friday, May 24, 2024 9:39 AM To: MICE-DISCUSS(a)LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET Subject: [MICE-DISCUSS] Traffic spike starting at 2:00am today Curious if anyone knows why we are seeing about 25-30% increase in traffic today. Some big updates going on perhaps? Thanks, Dean Dean Bahls COO | Fiber Minnesota & Aurora Fiber Optic Networks 14 Main St SW | PO Box J | Menahga, MN 56464 218.564-1321 (Direct) | 218.564.3000 (Main Office) dean.bahls(a)fiberminnesota.com<mailto:dean.bahls@fiberminnesota.com> [cid:image004.png@01DAADBE.72CB79A0] [cid:image005.jpg@01DAADBE.72CB79A0] ________________________________ To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1 ________________________________ To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1 Disclaimer: If you are not the intended recipient of this message, please immediately notify the sender of the transmission error and then promptly permanently delete this message from your computer system.

May 24, 2024

Re: Traffic spike starting at 2:00am today

by Jeff Wilde

I think taylor swift is in Europe so we are good there 😊 [A picture containing icon Description automatically generated] Jeff Wilde • Network Engineer • Park Region Office 218.826.6161 • Direct 218.826.8330 • Fax 218.826.6298 From: MICE Discuss <MICE-DISCUSS(a)LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET> On Behalf Of Dean Bahls Sent: Friday, May 24, 2024 9:39 AM To: MICE-DISCUSS(a)LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET Subject: [MICE-DISCUSS] Traffic spike starting at 2:00am today Curious if anyone knows why we are seeing about 25-30% increase in traffic today. Some big updates going on perhaps? Thanks, Dean Dean Bahls COO | Fiber Minnesota & Aurora Fiber Optic Networks 14 Main St SW | PO Box J | Menahga, MN 56464 218.564-1321 (Direct) | 218.564.3000 (Main Office) dean.bahls(a)fiberminnesota.com<mailto:dean.bahls@fiberminnesota.com> [cid:image004.png@01DAADBE.72CB79A0] [cid:image005.jpg@01DAADBE.72CB79A0] ________________________________ To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1

May 24, 2024

Traffic spike starting at 2:00am today

by Dean Bahls

Curious if anyone knows why we are seeing about 25-30% increase in traffic today. Some big updates going on perhaps? Thanks, Dean Dean Bahls COO | Fiber Minnesota & Aurora Fiber Optic Networks 14 Main St SW | PO Box J | Menahga, MN 56464 218.564-1321 (Direct) | 218.564.3000 (Main Office) dean.bahls(a)fiberminnesota.com<mailto:dean.bahls@fiberminnesota.com> [cid:image001.png@01DAADBE.2C9CB570] [cid:image002.jpg@01DAADBE.2C9CB570]

May 24, 2024

Cacti vulnerabilities

by Michael Horwath

https://thehackernews.com/2024/05/critical-flaws-in-cacti-framework-could.h… Sharing is caring, and I care about sharing! -- Mike Horwath, reachable via drechsau(a)Geeks.ORG

May 14, 2024

Re: Server Updates

by Cameron Skappel

Server and firewall updates are completed. On 5/1/24 17:08, Cameron Skappel wrote: > We plan to update MICE servers and firewalls Friday 11:00AM Central. > We'll only be doing 1 route server at a time. > -- Cameron

May 3, 2024

Server Updates

by Cameron Skappel

We plan to update MICE servers and firewalls Friday 11:00AM Central. We'll only be doing 1 route server at a time. -- Cameron

May 1, 2024

Please welcome AllWorldIT ZA to MICE!

by Jeremy Lumby

Name: AllWorldIT ZA Switch: NOCIX Ports: E 5/17 ASN: 328112 IPv4: 206.108.255.231/24 IPv6: 2001:504:27:0:5:01B0::1/64 Peering Contact: peering(a)as328112.net Route Servers: YES Welcome Aboard! Jeremy Lumby Minnesota VoIP 9217 17th Ave S #216 Bloomington, MN 55425 Main: 612-355-7740 Direct: 612-392-6814 Fax: 952-873-7425 jlumby(a)mnvoip.com

April 26, 2024

Please welcome Amazon to MICE!

by Jeremy Lumby

Name: Amazon Switch: MICE Core 511 Ports: adding 5/3/1 & 5/4/1 to portchannel 5 and adding 5/5/1 & 5/6/1 to portchannel 24 for a total of 2x4x100G ASN: IPv4: All IP info remains the same, this is a 4x100G port addition IPv6: Peering Contact: peering-amer(a)amazon.com Route Servers: NO Welcome Aboard Again! Jeremy Lumby Minnesota VoIP 9217 17th Ave S #216 Bloomington, MN 55425 Main: 612-355-7740 Direct: 612-392-6814 Fax: 952-873-7425 jlumby(a)mnvoip.com

April 26, 2024

Peering Summit Bus Mankato->Kansas City

by Jay Hanke

The Midwest Peering Summit bus is a go. Here's the schedule: Wednesday 6/12/2024 10:00 AM Leave Mankato, We have free parking available 5:20 PM Arrive at Westin Crown Plaza Kansas City Friday 6/14/2024 4:00 PM Leave Kansas City Westin Crown Plaza Kansas City 11:25 PM Arrive in Mankato Cost is $150.00 round trip per person There is space on the bus to transport down exhibit equipment as well if needed. Email mwps(a)southfront.io to register. -- Jay Hanke, President South Front Networks jayhanke(a)southfront.io Phone 507-327-2398 https://southfront.io/

April 24, 2024

Re: MWPS 2024 Transportion

by Jay Hanke

We're just under 100 registered right now, maybe 15 of those are MICErs so far. We have space for 300 so should be less crowded this year. On Thu, Apr 18, 2024 at 12:13 PM Steve Howard <showard(a)paulbunyan.net> wrote: > > Hi Jay, > > Did you get a good sized group from MICE going to the Peering Summit? Or do you have a site that show who's registered? > > I'm debating about whether to attend and bring Lisa (she'll be taking over some of my duties when I retire later this year). I just want to make sure enough familiar faces are going to be there to justify the expense! > > Thanks, > Steve > > > > On 3/14/24 11:42, Jay Hanke wrote: > > If I had a coach bus going from MN to Kansas City Peering Summit, are > others interested? > > > > ________________________________ > > To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: > http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1

April 18, 2024

Re: MWPS 2024 Transportion

by Steve Howard

April 18, 2024

Re: Fwd: Google - Drain of routes for Route-Servers in your IX

by David Farmer

My understanding is that AWS and Microsoft have deployed Peering Routers and backbone capacity here in the Twin Cities. However, Google back-hauls our peering to its Chicago Peering Routers. While I'm disappointed by this, we have to remember Google was the first Cloud provider to interconnect to MICE, and they were critical to our early growth. While I encourage Google to deploy Peering Routers and backbone capacity here in the Twin Cities, they have to do this on their own timetable. Nevertheless, because of their early participation in MICE, I refuse to criticize Google too harshly and trust they will eventually deploy Peering Routers and backbone capacity here in the Twin Cities. Thanks. On Fri, Apr 5, 2024 at 8:32 AM Jay Hanke < 0000001ddf7fafbb-dmarc-request(a)lists.iphouse.net> wrote: > I don't think MSP is a small market. MICE (by participants) is the 13th > largest in the US and Cologix is packed with networks and ~57th globally. > > There is at least another order of magnitude of traffic on PNI links in > the market vs MICE in MSP. The large CDN networks are doing terabits of > traffic in MSP. > > > On Fri, Apr 5, 2024 at 8:14 AM Dean Bahls <dean.bahls(a)fiberminnesota.com> > wrote: > >> Does anyone besides me think there is more to this than Minneapolis being >> a small market? Could they be enticed to the other peering core to solve >> this issue? >> >> >> >> Dean >> >> >> >> >> >> *From:* MICE Discuss <MICE-DISCUSS(a)LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET> * On Behalf Of *Michael >> Hare >> *Sent:* Friday, April 5, 2024 8:04 AM >> *To:* MICE-DISCUSS(a)LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET >> *Subject:* Re: [MICE-DISCUSS] Fwd: Google - Drain of routes for >> Route-Servers in your IX >> >> >> >> While 200G isn’t small to us, it is very small to them. That’s one >> middle size PNI peer for them in the Chicago market. >> >> >> >> AS3128 was affected by the Google MICE IX depeering and while I didn’t >> like it, they did provide us an alternative in the Minneapolis area that we >> decided to decline. >> >> >> >> -Michael >> >> >> >> *From:* MICE Discuss <MICE-DISCUSS(a)LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET> *On Behalf Of *Jeremy >> Lumby >> *Sent:* Thursday, April 4, 2024 4:18 PM >> *To:* MICE-DISCUSS(a)LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET >> *Subject:* Re: [MICE-DISCUSS] Fwd: Google - Drain of routes for >> Route-Servers in your IX >> >> >> >> What bothers me the most is Google has a habit of always saying that >> Minneapolis is a small market, and they cannot justify building out a node >> here. However every intermediate thing that they do fills to capacity >> shortly after they turn it up, so it definitely does not match their >> perception of the local market. >> >> >> >> *From:* MICE Discuss <MICE-DISCUSS(a)LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET> *On Behalf Of *Anthony >> Anderberg >> *Sent:* Thursday, April 4, 2024 4:13 PM >> *To:* MICE-DISCUSS(a)LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET >> *Subject:* Re: [MICE-DISCUSS] Fwd: Google - Drain of routes for >> Route-Servers in your IX >> >> >> >> Ah yes, the “congratulations you qualify to spend your money to make our >> life easier” emails… know them well. :-) >> >> >> >> Sent from my iPhone >> >> >> >> On Apr 3, 2024, at 7:29 PM, Ben Wiechman < >> 0000001a026a3d65-dmarc-request(a)lists.iphouse.net> wrote: >> >> >> >> They want some of us to pay for our own transport to Chicago. >> >> >> >> *Ben Wiechman* >> >> Director of Network Strategy and Engineering >> >> 320.247.3224 | ben.wiechman(a)arvig.com >> >> Arvig | 224 East Main Street | Melrose, MN 56352 | arvig.com >> <https://urldefense.com/v3/__http:/arvig.com__;!!Mak6IKo!IgzwFPWYeQyvY7nRsO2…> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> On Wed, Apr 3, 2024 at 4:40 PM Corey Hauer <coreyhauer(a)gmail.com> wrote: >> >> I am glad this got re-raised for visibility. I apparently missed it. >> Thanks for the link to establish bilateral sessions. >> >> >> It's hard to contemplate how Google still keeps their MICE pipes >> near-maxed 90% of the time, knowing that we can't be the only one that >> missed this change. I am sure Google has their reasons for not expanding >> their MICE capacity, although it seems strange to me in a vacuum. >> >> >> >> Corey >> >> >> >> On Wed, Apr 3, 2024 at 12:42 PM Anthony Anderberg < >> AnthonyAnderberg(a)nuvera.net> wrote: >> >> Yes, in last fall’s meeting we reminded everyone that they needed to >> create bilateral sessions with Google right away if they hadn’t already >> done so. >> >> >> >> >> >> *From: *MICE Discuss <MICE-DISCUSS(a)LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET> on behalf of >> Jeremy Lumby <jlumby(a)MNVOIP.COM> >> *Reply-To: *MICE Discuss <MICE-DISCUSS(a)LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET> >> *Date: *Wednesday, April 3, 2024 at 2:38 PM >> *To: *MICE Discuss <MICE-DISCUSS(a)LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET> >> *Subject: *Re: [MICE-DISCUSS] Fwd: Google - Drain of routes for >> Route-Servers in your IX >> >> >> >> They did it to MICE back in December >> >> >> >> *From:* MICE Discuss <MICE-DISCUSS(a)LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET> *On Behalf Of *Richard >> Laager >> *Sent:* Wednesday, April 3, 2024 2:32 PM >> *To:* MICE-DISCUSS(a)LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET >> *Subject:* [MICE-DISCUSS] Fwd: Google - Drain of routes for >> Route-Servers in your IX >> >> >> >> I haven't heard this for MICE, but presumably they will be doing the same >> thing here? >> >> -------- Forwarded Message -------- >> >> *Subject: * >> >> Google - Drain of routes for Route-Servers in your IX (fwd) >> >> *Date: * >> >> Wed, 3 Apr 2024 14:31:55 +0000 (UTC) >> >> *From: * >> >> Chris Caputo <ccaputo(a)seattleix.net> <ccaputo(a)seattleix.net> >> >> *To: * >> >> members(a)seattleix.net >> >> >> >> FYI from Google... >> >> Chris >> >> ---------- Forwarded message ---------- >> Date: Wed, 03 Apr 2024 04:21:02 -0700 >> From: Google Peering Operations <peering-ops(a)google.com> >> <peering-ops(a)google.com> >> To: info(a)seattleix.net >> Subject: Drain of routes for Route-Servers in your IX >> >> Dear Internet Exchange, >> >> As part of Google's effort to simplify peering operations and increase >> routing security we have decided to stop advertising and receiving prefix >> information from Route-Servers in Internet Exchanges. The BGP session with >> the route servers will remain established. We are planning to implement the >> change in your IX in the next few weeks. >> >> We won’t disconnect from the IX and we will keep current BGP bilateral >> sessions with individual peers on the IX. We invite other networks that >> rely on Route-Servers to request a bilateral session. Bilateral session >> request can be done at: https://isp.google.com/iwantpeering >> <https://urldefense.com/v3/__https:/isp.google.com/iwantpeering__;!!Mak6IKo!…> >> >> We kindly request you to inform peers in your Internet Exchange of these >> future changes so they can request bilateral sessions with us if they >> desire to do so. >> >> Sincerely, >> Google Network Operations >> >> >> ------------------------------ >> >> To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: >> http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1 >> <https://urldefense.com/v3/__http:/lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-…> >> >> >> ------------------------------ >> >> To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: >> http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1 >> <https://urldefense.com/v3/__http:/lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-…> >> >> >> ------------------------------ >> >> To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: >> http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1 >> <https://urldefense.com/v3/__http:/lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-…> >> >> >> ------------------------------ >> >> To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: >> http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1 >> <https://urldefense.com/v3/__http:/lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-…> >> >> >> ------------------------------ >> >> To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: >> http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1 >> <https://urldefense.com/v3/__http:/lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-…> >> >> >> ------------------------------ >> >> To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: >> http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1 >> <https://urldefense.com/v3/__http:/lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-…> >> >> >> ------------------------------ >> >> To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: >> http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1 >> <https://urldefense.com/v3/__http:/lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-…> >> >> >> ------------------------------ >> >> To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: >> http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1 >> >> ------------------------------ >> >> To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: >> http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1 >> > > ------------------------------ > > To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: > http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1 > -- =============================================== David Farmer Email:farmer@umn.edu Networking & Telecommunication Services Office of Information Technology University of Minnesota 2218 University Ave SE Phone: 612-626-0815 Minneapolis, MN 55414-3029 Cell: 612-812-9952 ===============================================

April 5, 2024

Re: Fwd: Google - Drain of routes for Route-Servers in your IX

by Jay Hanke

I don't think MSP is a small market. MICE (by participants) is the 13th largest in the US and Cologix is packed with networks and ~57th globally. There is at least another order of magnitude of traffic on PNI links in the market vs MICE in MSP. The large CDN networks are doing terabits of traffic in MSP. On Fri, Apr 5, 2024 at 8:14 AM Dean Bahls <dean.bahls(a)fiberminnesota.com> wrote: > Does anyone besides me think there is more to this than Minneapolis being > a small market? Could they be enticed to the other peering core to solve > this issue? > > > > Dean > > > > > > *From:* MICE Discuss <MICE-DISCUSS(a)LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET> * On Behalf Of *Michael > Hare > *Sent:* Friday, April 5, 2024 8:04 AM > *To:* MICE-DISCUSS(a)LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET > *Subject:* Re: [MICE-DISCUSS] Fwd: Google - Drain of routes for > Route-Servers in your IX > > > > While 200G isn’t small to us, it is very small to them. That’s one middle > size PNI peer for them in the Chicago market. > > > > AS3128 was affected by the Google MICE IX depeering and while I didn’t > like it, they did provide us an alternative in the Minneapolis area that we > decided to decline. > > > > -Michael > > > > *From:* MICE Discuss <MICE-DISCUSS(a)LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET> *On Behalf Of *Jeremy > Lumby > *Sent:* Thursday, April 4, 2024 4:18 PM > *To:* MICE-DISCUSS(a)LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET > *Subject:* Re: [MICE-DISCUSS] Fwd: Google - Drain of routes for > Route-Servers in your IX > > > > What bothers me the most is Google has a habit of always saying that > Minneapolis is a small market, and they cannot justify building out a node > here. However every intermediate thing that they do fills to capacity > shortly after they turn it up, so it definitely does not match their > perception of the local market. > > > > *From:* MICE Discuss <MICE-DISCUSS(a)LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET> *On Behalf Of *Anthony > Anderberg > *Sent:* Thursday, April 4, 2024 4:13 PM > *To:* MICE-DISCUSS(a)LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET > *Subject:* Re: [MICE-DISCUSS] Fwd: Google - Drain of routes for > Route-Servers in your IX > > > > Ah yes, the “congratulations you qualify to spend your money to make our > life easier” emails… know them well. :-) > > > > Sent from my iPhone > > > > On Apr 3, 2024, at 7:29 PM, Ben Wiechman < > 0000001a026a3d65-dmarc-request(a)lists.iphouse.net> wrote: > > > > They want some of us to pay for our own transport to Chicago. > > > > *Ben Wiechman* > > Director of Network Strategy and Engineering > > 320.247.3224 | ben.wiechman(a)arvig.com > > Arvig | 224 East Main Street | Melrose, MN 56352 | arvig.com > <https://urldefense.com/v3/__http:/arvig.com__;!!Mak6IKo!IgzwFPWYeQyvY7nRsO2…> > > > > > > > > On Wed, Apr 3, 2024 at 4:40 PM Corey Hauer <coreyhauer(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > I am glad this got re-raised for visibility. I apparently missed it. > Thanks for the link to establish bilateral sessions. > > > It's hard to contemplate how Google still keeps their MICE pipes > near-maxed 90% of the time, knowing that we can't be the only one that > missed this change. I am sure Google has their reasons for not expanding > their MICE capacity, although it seems strange to me in a vacuum. > > > > Corey > > > > On Wed, Apr 3, 2024 at 12:42 PM Anthony Anderberg < > AnthonyAnderberg(a)nuvera.net> wrote: > > Yes, in last fall’s meeting we reminded everyone that they needed to > create bilateral sessions with Google right away if they hadn’t already > done so. > > > > > > *From: *MICE Discuss <MICE-DISCUSS(a)LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET> on behalf of Jeremy > Lumby <jlumby(a)MNVOIP.COM> > *Reply-To: *MICE Discuss <MICE-DISCUSS(a)LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET> > *Date: *Wednesday, April 3, 2024 at 2:38 PM > *To: *MICE Discuss <MICE-DISCUSS(a)LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET> > *Subject: *Re: [MICE-DISCUSS] Fwd: Google - Drain of routes for > Route-Servers in your IX > > > > They did it to MICE back in December > > > > *From:* MICE Discuss <MICE-DISCUSS(a)LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET> *On Behalf Of *Richard > Laager > *Sent:* Wednesday, April 3, 2024 2:32 PM > *To:* MICE-DISCUSS(a)LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET > *Subject:* [MICE-DISCUSS] Fwd: Google - Drain of routes for Route-Servers > in your IX > > > > I haven't heard this for MICE, but presumably they will be doing the same > thing here? > > -------- Forwarded Message -------- > > *Subject: * > > Google - Drain of routes for Route-Servers in your IX (fwd) > > *Date: * > > Wed, 3 Apr 2024 14:31:55 +0000 (UTC) > > *From: * > > Chris Caputo <ccaputo(a)seattleix.net> <ccaputo(a)seattleix.net> > > *To: * > > members(a)seattleix.net > > > > FYI from Google... > > Chris > > ---------- Forwarded message ---------- > Date: Wed, 03 Apr 2024 04:21:02 -0700 > From: Google Peering Operations <peering-ops(a)google.com> > <peering-ops(a)google.com> > To: info(a)seattleix.net > Subject: Drain of routes for Route-Servers in your IX > > Dear Internet Exchange, > > As part of Google's effort to simplify peering operations and increase > routing security we have decided to stop advertising and receiving prefix > information from Route-Servers in Internet Exchanges. The BGP session with > the route servers will remain established. We are planning to implement the > change in your IX in the next few weeks. > > We won’t disconnect from the IX and we will keep current BGP bilateral > sessions with individual peers on the IX. We invite other networks that > rely on Route-Servers to request a bilateral session. Bilateral session > request can be done at: https://isp.google.com/iwantpeering > <https://urldefense.com/v3/__https:/isp.google.com/iwantpeering__;!!Mak6IKo!…> > > We kindly request you to inform peers in your Internet Exchange of these > future changes so they can request bilateral sessions with us if they > desire to do so. > > Sincerely, > Google Network Operations > > > ------------------------------ > > To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: > http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1 > <https://urldefense.com/v3/__http:/lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-…> > > > ------------------------------ > > To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: > http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1 > <https://urldefense.com/v3/__http:/lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-…> > > > ------------------------------ > > To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: > http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1 > <https://urldefense.com/v3/__http:/lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-…> > > > ------------------------------ > > To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: > http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1 > <https://urldefense.com/v3/__http:/lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-…> > > > ------------------------------ > > To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: > http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1 > <https://urldefense.com/v3/__http:/lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-…> > > > ------------------------------ > > To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: > http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1 > <https://urldefense.com/v3/__http:/lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-…> > > > ------------------------------ > > To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: > http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1 > <https://urldefense.com/v3/__http:/lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-…> > > > ------------------------------ > > To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: > http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1 > > ------------------------------ > > To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: > http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1 >

April 5, 2024

Re: Fwd: Google - Drain of routes for Route-Servers in your IX

by Dean Bahls

Does anyone besides me think there is more to this than Minneapolis being a small market? Could they be enticed to the other peering core to solve this issue? Dean From: MICE Discuss <MICE-DISCUSS(a)LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET> On Behalf Of Michael Hare Sent: Friday, April 5, 2024 8:04 AM To: MICE-DISCUSS(a)LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET Subject: Re: [MICE-DISCUSS] Fwd: Google - Drain of routes for Route-Servers in your IX While 200G isn’t small to us, it is very small to them. That’s one middle size PNI peer for them in the Chicago market. AS3128 was affected by the Google MICE IX depeering and while I didn’t like it, they did provide us an alternative in the Minneapolis area that we decided to decline. -Michael From: MICE Discuss <MICE-DISCUSS(a)LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET<mailto:MICE-DISCUSS@LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET>> On Behalf Of Jeremy Lumby Sent: Thursday, April 4, 2024 4:18 PM To: MICE-DISCUSS(a)LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET<mailto:MICE-DISCUSS@LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET> Subject: Re: [MICE-DISCUSS] Fwd: Google - Drain of routes for Route-Servers in your IX What bothers me the most is Google has a habit of always saying that Minneapolis is a small market, and they cannot justify building out a node here. However every intermediate thing that they do fills to capacity shortly after they turn it up, so it definitely does not match their perception of the local market. From: MICE Discuss <MICE-DISCUSS(a)LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET<mailto:MICE-DISCUSS@LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET>> On Behalf Of Anthony Anderberg Sent: Thursday, April 4, 2024 4:13 PM To: MICE-DISCUSS(a)LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET<mailto:MICE-DISCUSS@LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET> Subject: Re: [MICE-DISCUSS] Fwd: Google - Drain of routes for Route-Servers in your IX Ah yes, the “congratulations you qualify to spend your money to make our life easier” emails… know them well. :-) Sent from my iPhone On Apr 3, 2024, at 7:29 PM, Ben Wiechman <0000001a026a3d65-dmarc-request(a)lists.iphouse.net<mailto:0000001a026a3d65-dmarc-request@lists.iphouse.net>> wrote: They want some of us to pay for our own transport to Chicago. Ben Wiechman Director of Network Strategy and Engineering 320.247.3224 | ben.wiechman(a)arvig.com<mailto:ben.wiechman@arvig.com> Arvig | 224 East Main Street | Melrose, MN 56352 | arvig.com<https://urldefense.com/v3/__http:/arvig.com__;!!Mak6IKo!IgzwFPWYeQyvY7nRsO2…> On Wed, Apr 3, 2024 at 4:40 PM Corey Hauer <coreyhauer(a)gmail.com<mailto:coreyhauer@gmail.com>> wrote: I am glad this got re-raised for visibility. I apparently missed it. Thanks for the link to establish bilateral sessions. It's hard to contemplate how Google still keeps their MICE pipes near-maxed 90% of the time, knowing that we can't be the only one that missed this change. I am sure Google has their reasons for not expanding their MICE capacity, although it seems strange to me in a vacuum. Corey On Wed, Apr 3, 2024 at 12:42 PM Anthony Anderberg <AnthonyAnderberg(a)nuvera.net<mailto:AnthonyAnderberg@nuvera.net>> wrote: Yes, in last fall’s meeting we reminded everyone that they needed to create bilateral sessions with Google right away if they hadn’t already done so. From: MICE Discuss <MICE-DISCUSS(a)LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET<mailto:MICE-DISCUSS@LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET>> on behalf of Jeremy Lumby <jlumby(a)MNVOIP.COM<mailto:jlumby@MNVOIP.COM>> Reply-To: MICE Discuss <MICE-DISCUSS(a)LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET<mailto:MICE-DISCUSS@LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET>> Date: Wednesday, April 3, 2024 at 2:38 PM To: MICE Discuss <MICE-DISCUSS(a)LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET<mailto:MICE-DISCUSS@LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET>> Subject: Re: [MICE-DISCUSS] Fwd: Google - Drain of routes for Route-Servers in your IX They did it to MICE back in December From: MICE Discuss <MICE-DISCUSS(a)LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET<mailto:MICE-DISCUSS@LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET>> On Behalf Of Richard Laager Sent: Wednesday, April 3, 2024 2:32 PM To: MICE-DISCUSS(a)LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET<mailto:MICE-DISCUSS@LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET> Subject: [MICE-DISCUSS] Fwd: Google - Drain of routes for Route-Servers in your IX I haven't heard this for MICE, but presumably they will be doing the same thing here? -------- Forwarded Message -------- Subject: Google - Drain of routes for Route-Servers in your IX (fwd) Date: Wed, 3 Apr 2024 14:31:55 +0000 (UTC) From: Chris Caputo <ccaputo(a)seattleix.net><mailto:ccaputo@seattleix.net> To: members(a)seattleix.net<mailto:members@seattleix.net> FYI from Google... Chris ---------- Forwarded message ---------- Date: Wed, 03 Apr 2024 04:21:02 -0700 From: Google Peering Operations <peering-ops(a)google.com><mailto:peering-ops@google.com> To: info(a)seattleix.net<mailto:info@seattleix.net> Subject: Drain of routes for Route-Servers in your IX Dear Internet Exchange, As part of Google's effort to simplify peering operations and increase routing security we have decided to stop advertising and receiving prefix information from Route-Servers in Internet Exchanges. The BGP session with the route servers will remain established. We are planning to implement the change in your IX in the next few weeks. We won’t disconnect from the IX and we will keep current BGP bilateral sessions with individual peers on the IX. We invite other networks that rely on Route-Servers to request a bilateral session. Bilateral session request can be done at: https://isp.google.com/iwantpeering<https://urldefense.com/v3/__https:/isp.google.com/iwantpeering__;!!Mak6IKo!…> We kindly request you to inform peers in your Internet Exchange of these future changes so they can request bilateral sessions with us if they desire to do so. Sincerely, Google Network Operations ________________________________ To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1<https://urldefense.com/v3/__http:/lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-…> ________________________________ To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1<https://urldefense.com/v3/__http:/lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-…> ________________________________ To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1<https://urldefense.com/v3/__http:/lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-…> ________________________________ To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1<https://urldefense.com/v3/__http:/lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-…> ________________________________ To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1<https://urldefense.com/v3/__http:/lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-…> ________________________________ To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1<https://urldefense.com/v3/__http:/lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-…> ________________________________ To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1<https://urldefense.com/v3/__http:/lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-…> ________________________________ To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1

April 5, 2024

Re: Fwd: Google - Drain of routes for Route-Servers in your IX

by Michael Hare

While 200G isn’t small to us, it is very small to them. That’s one middle size PNI peer for them in the Chicago market. AS3128 was affected by the Google MICE IX depeering and while I didn’t like it, they did provide us an alternative in the Minneapolis area that we decided to decline. -Michael From: MICE Discuss <MICE-DISCUSS(a)LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET> On Behalf Of Jeremy Lumby Sent: Thursday, April 4, 2024 4:18 PM To: MICE-DISCUSS(a)LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET Subject: Re: [MICE-DISCUSS] Fwd: Google - Drain of routes for Route-Servers in your IX What bothers me the most is Google has a habit of always saying that Minneapolis is a small market, and they cannot justify building out a node here. However every intermediate thing that they do fills to capacity shortly after they turn it up, so it definitely does not match their perception of the local market. From: MICE Discuss <MICE-DISCUSS(a)LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET<mailto:MICE-DISCUSS@LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET>> On Behalf Of Anthony Anderberg Sent: Thursday, April 4, 2024 4:13 PM To: MICE-DISCUSS(a)LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET<mailto:MICE-DISCUSS@LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET> Subject: Re: [MICE-DISCUSS] Fwd: Google - Drain of routes for Route-Servers in your IX Ah yes, the “congratulations you qualify to spend your money to make our life easier” emails… know them well. :-) Sent from my iPhone On Apr 3, 2024, at 7:29 PM, Ben Wiechman <0000001a026a3d65-dmarc-request(a)lists.iphouse.net<mailto:0000001a026a3d65-dmarc-request@lists.iphouse.net>> wrote: They want some of us to pay for our own transport to Chicago. Ben Wiechman Director of Network Strategy and Engineering 320.247.3224 | ben.wiechman(a)arvig.com<mailto:ben.wiechman@arvig.com> Arvig | 224 East Main Street | Melrose, MN 56352 | arvig.com<https://urldefense.com/v3/__http:/arvig.com__;!!Mak6IKo!IgzwFPWYeQyvY7nRsO2…> On Wed, Apr 3, 2024 at 4:40 PM Corey Hauer <coreyhauer(a)gmail.com<mailto:coreyhauer@gmail.com>> wrote: I am glad this got re-raised for visibility. I apparently missed it. Thanks for the link to establish bilateral sessions. It's hard to contemplate how Google still keeps their MICE pipes near-maxed 90% of the time, knowing that we can't be the only one that missed this change. I am sure Google has their reasons for not expanding their MICE capacity, although it seems strange to me in a vacuum. Corey On Wed, Apr 3, 2024 at 12:42 PM Anthony Anderberg <AnthonyAnderberg(a)nuvera.net<mailto:AnthonyAnderberg@nuvera.net>> wrote: Yes, in last fall’s meeting we reminded everyone that they needed to create bilateral sessions with Google right away if they hadn’t already done so. From: MICE Discuss <MICE-DISCUSS(a)LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET<mailto:MICE-DISCUSS@LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET>> on behalf of Jeremy Lumby <jlumby(a)MNVOIP.COM<mailto:jlumby@MNVOIP.COM>> Reply-To: MICE Discuss <MICE-DISCUSS(a)LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET<mailto:MICE-DISCUSS@LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET>> Date: Wednesday, April 3, 2024 at 2:38 PM To: MICE Discuss <MICE-DISCUSS(a)LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET<mailto:MICE-DISCUSS@LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET>> Subject: Re: [MICE-DISCUSS] Fwd: Google - Drain of routes for Route-Servers in your IX They did it to MICE back in December From: MICE Discuss <MICE-DISCUSS(a)LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET<mailto:MICE-DISCUSS@LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET>> On Behalf Of Richard Laager Sent: Wednesday, April 3, 2024 2:32 PM To: MICE-DISCUSS(a)LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET<mailto:MICE-DISCUSS@LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET> Subject: [MICE-DISCUSS] Fwd: Google - Drain of routes for Route-Servers in your IX I haven't heard this for MICE, but presumably they will be doing the same thing here? -------- Forwarded Message -------- Subject: Google - Drain of routes for Route-Servers in your IX (fwd) Date: Wed, 3 Apr 2024 14:31:55 +0000 (UTC) From: Chris Caputo <ccaputo(a)seattleix.net><mailto:ccaputo@seattleix.net> To: members(a)seattleix.net<mailto:members@seattleix.net> FYI from Google... Chris ---------- Forwarded message ---------- Date: Wed, 03 Apr 2024 04:21:02 -0700 From: Google Peering Operations <peering-ops(a)google.com><mailto:peering-ops@google.com> To: info(a)seattleix.net<mailto:info@seattleix.net> Subject: Drain of routes for Route-Servers in your IX Dear Internet Exchange, As part of Google's effort to simplify peering operations and increase routing security we have decided to stop advertising and receiving prefix information from Route-Servers in Internet Exchanges. The BGP session with the route servers will remain established. We are planning to implement the change in your IX in the next few weeks. We won’t disconnect from the IX and we will keep current BGP bilateral sessions with individual peers on the IX. We invite other networks that rely on Route-Servers to request a bilateral session. Bilateral session request can be done at: https://isp.google.com/iwantpeering<https://urldefense.com/v3/__https:/isp.google.com/iwantpeering__;!!Mak6IKo!…> We kindly request you to inform peers in your Internet Exchange of these future changes so they can request bilateral sessions with us if they desire to do so. Sincerely, Google Network Operations ________________________________ To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1<https://urldefense.com/v3/__http:/lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-…> ________________________________ To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1<https://urldefense.com/v3/__http:/lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-…> ________________________________ To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1<https://urldefense.com/v3/__http:/lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-…> ________________________________ To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1<https://urldefense.com/v3/__http:/lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-…> ________________________________ To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1<https://urldefense.com/v3/__http:/lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-…> ________________________________ To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1<https://urldefense.com/v3/__http:/lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-…> ________________________________ To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1<https://urldefense.com/v3/__http:/lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-…>

April 5, 2024

Re: Fwd: Google - Drain of routes for Route-Servers in your IX

by Jeremy Lumby

What bothers me the most is Google has a habit of always saying that Minneapolis is a small market, and they cannot justify building out a node here. However every intermediate thing that they do fills to capacity shortly after they turn it up, so it definitely does not match their perception of the local market. From: MICE Discuss <MICE-DISCUSS(a)LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET> On Behalf Of Anthony Anderberg Sent: Thursday, April 4, 2024 4:13 PM To: MICE-DISCUSS(a)LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET Subject: Re: [MICE-DISCUSS] Fwd: Google - Drain of routes for Route-Servers in your IX Ah yes, the “congratulations you qualify to spend your money to make our life easier” emails… know them well. :-) Sent from my iPhone On Apr 3, 2024, at 7:29 PM, Ben Wiechman <0000001a026a3d65-dmarc-request(a)lists.iphouse.net <mailto:0000001a026a3d65-dmarc-request@lists.iphouse.net> > wrote: They want some of us to pay for our own transport to Chicago. Ben Wiechman Director of Network Strategy and Engineering 320.247.3224 | ben.wiechman(a)arvig.com <mailto:ben.wiechman@arvig.com> Arvig | 224 East Main Street | Melrose, MN 56352 | arvig.com <http://arvig.com> On Wed, Apr 3, 2024 at 4:40 PM Corey Hauer <coreyhauer(a)gmail.com <mailto:coreyhauer@gmail.com> > wrote: I am glad this got re-raised for visibility. I apparently missed it. Thanks for the link to establish bilateral sessions. It's hard to contemplate how Google still keeps their MICE pipes near-maxed 90% of the time, knowing that we can't be the only one that missed this change. I am sure Google has their reasons for not expanding their MICE capacity, although it seems strange to me in a vacuum. Corey On Wed, Apr 3, 2024 at 12:42 PM Anthony Anderberg <AnthonyAnderberg(a)nuvera.net <mailto:AnthonyAnderberg@nuvera.net> > wrote: Yes, in last fall’s meeting we reminded everyone that they needed to create bilateral sessions with Google right away if they hadn’t already done so. From: MICE Discuss <MICE-DISCUSS(a)LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET <mailto:MICE-DISCUSS@LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET> > on behalf of Jeremy Lumby <jlumby(a)MNVOIP.COM <mailto:jlumby@MNVOIP.COM> > Reply-To: MICE Discuss <MICE-DISCUSS(a)LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET <mailto:MICE-DISCUSS@LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET> > Date: Wednesday, April 3, 2024 at 2:38 PM To: MICE Discuss <MICE-DISCUSS(a)LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET <mailto:MICE-DISCUSS@LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET> > Subject: Re: [MICE-DISCUSS] Fwd: Google - Drain of routes for Route-Servers in your IX They did it to MICE back in December From: MICE Discuss <MICE-DISCUSS(a)LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET <mailto:MICE-DISCUSS@LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET> > On Behalf Of Richard Laager Sent: Wednesday, April 3, 2024 2:32 PM To: MICE-DISCUSS(a)LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET <mailto:MICE-DISCUSS@LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET> Subject: [MICE-DISCUSS] Fwd: Google - Drain of routes for Route-Servers in your IX I haven't heard this for MICE, but presumably they will be doing the same thing here? -------- Forwarded Message -------- Subject: Google - Drain of routes for Route-Servers in your IX (fwd) Date: Wed, 3 Apr 2024 14:31:55 +0000 (UTC) From: Chris Caputo <mailto:ccaputo@seattleix.net> <ccaputo(a)seattleix.net> To: members(a)seattleix.net <mailto:members@seattleix.net> FYI from Google... Chris ---------- Forwarded message ---------- Date: Wed, 03 Apr 2024 04:21:02 -0700 From: Google Peering Operations <mailto:peering-ops@google.com> <peering-ops(a)google.com> To: info(a)seattleix.net <mailto:info@seattleix.net> Subject: Drain of routes for Route-Servers in your IX Dear Internet Exchange, As part of Google's effort to simplify peering operations and increase routing security we have decided to stop advertising and receiving prefix information from Route-Servers in Internet Exchanges. The BGP session with the route servers will remain established. We are planning to implement the change in your IX in the next few weeks. We won’t disconnect from the IX and we will keep current BGP bilateral sessions with individual peers on the IX. We invite other networks that rely on Route-Servers to request a bilateral session. Bilateral session request can be done at: https://isp.google.com/iwantpeering We kindly request you to inform peers in your Internet Exchange of these future changes so they can request bilateral sessions with us if they desire to do so. Sincerely, Google Network Operations _____ To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS <http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1> &A=1 _____ To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS <http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1> &A=1 _____ To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS <http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1> &A=1 _____ To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS <http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1> &A=1 _____ To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS <http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1> &A=1 _____ To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS <http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1> &A=1

April 4, 2024

Re: Fwd: Google - Drain of routes for Route-Servers in your IX

by Anthony Anderberg

Ah yes, the “congratulations you qualify to spend your money to make our life easier” emails… know them well. :-) Sent from my iPhone On Apr 3, 2024, at 7:29 PM, Ben Wiechman <0000001a026a3d65-dmarc-request(a)lists.iphouse.net> wrote: They want some of us to pay for our own transport to Chicago. Ben Wiechman Director of Network Strategy and Engineering 320.247.3224 | ben.wiechman(a)arvig.com<mailto:ben.wiechman@arvig.com> Arvig | 224 East Main Street | Melrose, MN 56352 | arvig.com<http://arvig.com> On Wed, Apr 3, 2024 at 4:40 PM Corey Hauer <coreyhauer(a)gmail.com<mailto:coreyhauer@gmail.com>> wrote: I am glad this got re-raised for visibility. I apparently missed it. Thanks for the link to establish bilateral sessions. It's hard to contemplate how Google still keeps their MICE pipes near-maxed 90% of the time, knowing that we can't be the only one that missed this change. I am sure Google has their reasons for not expanding their MICE capacity, although it seems strange to me in a vacuum. Corey On Wed, Apr 3, 2024 at 12:42 PM Anthony Anderberg <AnthonyAnderberg(a)nuvera.net<mailto:AnthonyAnderberg@nuvera.net>> wrote: Yes, in last fall’s meeting we reminded everyone that they needed to create bilateral sessions with Google right away if they hadn’t already done so. From: MICE Discuss <MICE-DISCUSS(a)LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET<mailto:MICE-DISCUSS@LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET>> on behalf of Jeremy Lumby <jlumby(a)MNVOIP.COM<mailto:jlumby@MNVOIP.COM>> Reply-To: MICE Discuss <MICE-DISCUSS(a)LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET<mailto:MICE-DISCUSS@LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET>> Date: Wednesday, April 3, 2024 at 2:38 PM To: MICE Discuss <MICE-DISCUSS(a)LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET<mailto:MICE-DISCUSS@LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET>> Subject: Re: [MICE-DISCUSS] Fwd: Google - Drain of routes for Route-Servers in your IX They did it to MICE back in December From: MICE Discuss <MICE-DISCUSS(a)LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET<mailto:MICE-DISCUSS@LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET>> On Behalf Of Richard Laager Sent: Wednesday, April 3, 2024 2:32 PM To: MICE-DISCUSS(a)LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET<mailto:MICE-DISCUSS@LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET> Subject: [MICE-DISCUSS] Fwd: Google - Drain of routes for Route-Servers in your IX I haven't heard this for MICE, but presumably they will be doing the same thing here? -------- Forwarded Message -------- Subject: Google - Drain of routes for Route-Servers in your IX (fwd) Date: Wed, 3 Apr 2024 14:31:55 +0000 (UTC) From: Chris Caputo <ccaputo(a)seattleix.net><mailto:ccaputo@seattleix.net> To: members(a)seattleix.net<mailto:members@seattleix.net> FYI from Google... Chris ---------- Forwarded message ---------- Date: Wed, 03 Apr 2024 04:21:02 -0700 From: Google Peering Operations <peering-ops(a)google.com><mailto:peering-ops@google.com> To: info(a)seattleix.net<mailto:info@seattleix.net> Subject: Drain of routes for Route-Servers in your IX Dear Internet Exchange, As part of Google's effort to simplify peering operations and increase routing security we have decided to stop advertising and receiving prefix information from Route-Servers in Internet Exchanges. The BGP session with the route servers will remain established. We are planning to implement the change in your IX in the next few weeks. We won’t disconnect from the IX and we will keep current BGP bilateral sessions with individual peers on the IX. We invite other networks that rely on Route-Servers to request a bilateral session. Bilateral session request can be done at: https://isp.google.com/iwantpeering We kindly request you to inform peers in your Internet Exchange of these future changes so they can request bilateral sessions with us if they desire to do so. Sincerely, Google Network Operations ________________________________ To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1 ________________________________ To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1 ________________________________ To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1 ________________________________ To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1 ________________________________ To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1

April 4, 2024

Re: Fwd: Google - Drain of routes for Route-Servers in your IX

by Ben Wiechman

They want some of us to pay for our own transport to Chicago. Ben Wiechman Director of Network Strategy and Engineering 320.247.3224 | ben.wiechman(a)arvig.com Arvig | 224 East Main Street | Melrose, MN 56352 | arvig.com On Wed, Apr 3, 2024 at 4:40 PM Corey Hauer <coreyhauer(a)gmail.com> wrote: > I am glad this got re-raised for visibility. I apparently missed it. > Thanks for the link to establish bilateral sessions. > > It's hard to contemplate how Google still keeps their MICE pipes > near-maxed 90% of the time, knowing that we can't be the only one that > missed this change. I am sure Google has their reasons for not expanding > their MICE capacity, although it seems strange to me in a vacuum. > > Corey > > On Wed, Apr 3, 2024 at 12:42 PM Anthony Anderberg < > AnthonyAnderberg(a)nuvera.net> wrote: > >> Yes, in last fall’s meeting we reminded everyone that they needed to >> create bilateral sessions with Google right away if they hadn’t already >> done so. >> >> >> >> >> >> *From: *MICE Discuss <MICE-DISCUSS(a)LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET> on behalf of >> Jeremy Lumby <jlumby(a)MNVOIP.COM> >> *Reply-To: *MICE Discuss <MICE-DISCUSS(a)LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET> >> *Date: *Wednesday, April 3, 2024 at 2:38 PM >> *To: *MICE Discuss <MICE-DISCUSS(a)LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET> >> *Subject: *Re: [MICE-DISCUSS] Fwd: Google - Drain of routes for >> Route-Servers in your IX >> >> >> >> They did it to MICE back in December >> >> >> >> *From:* MICE Discuss <MICE-DISCUSS(a)LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET> * On Behalf Of *Richard >> Laager >> *Sent:* Wednesday, April 3, 2024 2:32 PM >> *To:* MICE-DISCUSS(a)LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET >> *Subject:* [MICE-DISCUSS] Fwd: Google - Drain of routes for >> Route-Servers in your IX >> >> >> >> I haven't heard this for MICE, but presumably they will be doing the same >> thing here? >> >> -------- Forwarded Message -------- >> >> *Subject: * >> >> Google - Drain of routes for Route-Servers in your IX (fwd) >> >> *Date: * >> >> Wed, 3 Apr 2024 14:31:55 +0000 (UTC) >> >> *From: * >> >> Chris Caputo <ccaputo(a)seattleix.net> <ccaputo(a)seattleix.net> >> >> *To: * >> >> members(a)seattleix.net >> >> >> >> FYI from Google... >> >> Chris >> >> ---------- Forwarded message ---------- >> Date: Wed, 03 Apr 2024 04:21:02 -0700 >> From: Google Peering Operations <peering-ops(a)google.com> >> <peering-ops(a)google.com> >> To: info(a)seattleix.net >> Subject: Drain of routes for Route-Servers in your IX >> >> Dear Internet Exchange, >> >> As part of Google's effort to simplify peering operations and increase >> routing security we have decided to stop advertising and receiving prefix >> information from Route-Servers in Internet Exchanges. The BGP session with >> the route servers will remain established. We are planning to implement the >> change in your IX in the next few weeks. >> >> We won’t disconnect from the IX and we will keep current BGP bilateral >> sessions with individual peers on the IX. We invite other networks that >> rely on Route-Servers to request a bilateral session. Bilateral session >> request can be done at: https://isp.google.com/iwantpeering >> >> We kindly request you to inform peers in your Internet Exchange of these >> future changes so they can request bilateral sessions with us if they >> desire to do so. >> >> Sincerely, >> Google Network Operations >> >> >> ------------------------------ >> >> To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: >> http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1 >> >> >> ------------------------------ >> >> To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: >> http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1 >> >> ------------------------------ >> >> To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: >> http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1 >> > > ------------------------------ > > To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: > http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1 >

April 4, 2024

Re: Fwd: Google - Drain of routes for Route-Servers in your IX

by Corey Hauer

I am glad this got re-raised for visibility. I apparently missed it. Thanks for the link to establish bilateral sessions. It's hard to contemplate how Google still keeps their MICE pipes near-maxed 90% of the time, knowing that we can't be the only one that missed this change. I am sure Google has their reasons for not expanding their MICE capacity, although it seems strange to me in a vacuum. Corey On Wed, Apr 3, 2024 at 12:42 PM Anthony Anderberg < AnthonyAnderberg(a)nuvera.net> wrote: > Yes, in last fall’s meeting we reminded everyone that they needed to > create bilateral sessions with Google right away if they hadn’t already > done so. > > > > > > *From: *MICE Discuss <MICE-DISCUSS(a)LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET> on behalf of Jeremy > Lumby <jlumby(a)MNVOIP.COM> > *Reply-To: *MICE Discuss <MICE-DISCUSS(a)LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET> > *Date: *Wednesday, April 3, 2024 at 2:38 PM > *To: *MICE Discuss <MICE-DISCUSS(a)LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET> > *Subject: *Re: [MICE-DISCUSS] Fwd: Google - Drain of routes for > Route-Servers in your IX > > > > They did it to MICE back in December > > > > *From:* MICE Discuss <MICE-DISCUSS(a)LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET> * On Behalf Of *Richard > Laager > *Sent:* Wednesday, April 3, 2024 2:32 PM > *To:* MICE-DISCUSS(a)LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET > *Subject:* [MICE-DISCUSS] Fwd: Google - Drain of routes for Route-Servers > in your IX > > > > I haven't heard this for MICE, but presumably they will be doing the same > thing here? > > -------- Forwarded Message -------- > > *Subject: * > > Google - Drain of routes for Route-Servers in your IX (fwd) > > *Date: * > > Wed, 3 Apr 2024 14:31:55 +0000 (UTC) > > *From: * > > Chris Caputo <ccaputo(a)seattleix.net> <ccaputo(a)seattleix.net> > > *To: * > > members(a)seattleix.net > > > > FYI from Google... > > Chris > > ---------- Forwarded message ---------- > Date: Wed, 03 Apr 2024 04:21:02 -0700 > From: Google Peering Operations <peering-ops(a)google.com> > <peering-ops(a)google.com> > To: info(a)seattleix.net > Subject: Drain of routes for Route-Servers in your IX > > Dear Internet Exchange, > > As part of Google's effort to simplify peering operations and increase > routing security we have decided to stop advertising and receiving prefix > information from Route-Servers in Internet Exchanges. The BGP session with > the route servers will remain established. We are planning to implement the > change in your IX in the next few weeks. > > We won’t disconnect from the IX and we will keep current BGP bilateral > sessions with individual peers on the IX. We invite other networks that > rely on Route-Servers to request a bilateral session. Bilateral session > request can be done at: https://isp.google.com/iwantpeering > > We kindly request you to inform peers in your Internet Exchange of these > future changes so they can request bilateral sessions with us if they > desire to do so. > > Sincerely, > Google Network Operations > > > ------------------------------ > > To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: > http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1 > > > ------------------------------ > > To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: > http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1 > > ------------------------------ > > To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: > http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1 >

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