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Please Welcome Databank to MICE!

by Jason Hanke

Company Name: Databank Port: Main Switch Ethernet 5/2 (Arista!) 1x10G ($250 Annual) ASN: 26994 IPv4: 206.108.255.113/24 IPv6: 2001:504:27:0:0:6972::1/64 Route Server: Yes BFD: NO Peering contact: bhajek(a)databank.com Billing Contact: Stephanie Jones 214-865-7920 accounting(a)databank.com Billing address: DataBank Holdings, Ltd. 400 S Akard St. Suite 100 Dallas, TX 75202 Welcome aboard! -- Jay Hanke CTO Neutral Path Communications 3 Civic Center Plaza, Suite 204 Mankato, MN 56001 (507) 327-2398 mobile jayhanke(a)neutralpath.net www.neutralpath.net

March 17, 2017

Google issues this afternoon?

by Frank Bulk

That valley around 3:10 pm may be related to the issues our monitoring system saw with ipv6.google.com this afternoon .... I also see that Amazon drained down to zero this afternoon, too. [cid:image001.png@01D29DE1.1B2EF3B0] [cid:image002.png@01D29DE1.1B2EF3B0]

March 16, 2017

Re: New Switch Testing

by Charles Monson

Airstream would be happy to be an early test subject for this. Charles Monson Airstream Communications (AS11796) -----Original Message----- From: MICE Discuss [mailto:MICE-DISCUSS@LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET] On Behalf Of Jeremy Lumby Sent: Wednesday, March 8, 2017 4:03 PM To: MICE-DISCUSS(a)LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET Subject: [MICE-DISCUSS] New Switch Testing I was curious if there are MICE members that are currently connected to the main Juniper switch with a 10G optical connection that want to be considered for testing, and be the first to be moved to the new Arista switch. This is still a little way out, however I just wanted to see who was interested. Jeremy Lumby Minnesota VoIP 9217 17th Ave S Suite 216 Bloomington, MN 55425 Main: 612-355-7740 x211 Direct: 612-392-6814 EFax: 952-873-7425 jlumby(a)mnvoip.com

March 9, 2017

User Group Registration

by Jason Hanke

If you can operate Facebook please register for the next UG. https://www.facebook.com/events/1167021980090048/ We need to make sure we have enough chairs etc. Remote participation at this meeting will be limited and likely poor quality so please plan on attending in person if you're able. -- Jay Hanke CTO Neutral Path Communications 3 Civic Center Plaza, Suite 204 Mankato, MN 56001 (507) 327-2398 mobile jayhanke(a)neutralpath.net www.neutralpath.net

March 8, 2017

Re: New Switch Testing

by Jeremy Lumby

When I spoke with them last week, they are planning on a panel, however I am not sure if it has completed yet. I will let you know tomorrow. It is my understanding that connections from within R90 will remain "loosies", and all other fiber connections will utilize the panel. -----Original Message----- From: MICE Discuss [mailto:MICE-DISCUSS@LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET] On Behalf Of Jason Hanke Sent: Wednesday, March 08, 2017 4:25 PM To: MICE-DISCUSS(a)LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET Subject: Re: [MICE-DISCUSS] New Switch Testing Did Cologix install a fiber panel in the new MICE rack or are we going to continue to use "loosies"? On Wed, Mar 8, 2017 at 4:23 PM, Justin Krejci <JKrejci(a)usinternet.com> wrote: > Funny, I am just ordering my 100-gig optics for USI to move to the new MICE Arista switch at 100-gig. > So you can put US Internet on that list too. > > Thanks! > > ________________________________________ > From: MICE Discuss [MICE-DISCUSS(a)LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET] on behalf of DeLong, Owen [00000005a669d12e-dmarc-request(a)LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET] > Sent: Wednesday, March 08, 2017 4:12 PM > To: MICE-DISCUSS(a)LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET > Subject: Re: [MICE-DISCUSS] New Switch Testing > > I’m willing to put Akamai in the early-adopter set after the first round of testing if that is helpful. > > Owen > >> On Mar 8, 2017, at 14:03 , Jeremy Lumby <jlumby(a)MNVOIP.COM> wrote: >> >> I was curious if there are MICE members that are currently connected to the main Juniper switch with a 10G optical connection that want to be considered for testing, and be the first to be moved to the new Arista switch. This is still a little way out, however I just wanted to see who was interested. >> >> >> Jeremy Lumby >> Minnesota VoIP >> 9217 17th Ave S >> Suite 216 >> Bloomington, MN 55425 >> Main: 612-355-7740 x211 >> Direct: 612-392-6814 >> EFax: 952-873-7425 >> jlumby(a)mnvoip.com > -- Jay Hanke CTO Neutral Path Communications 3 Civic Center Plaza, Suite 204 Mankato, MN 56001 (507) 327-2398 mobile jayhanke(a)neutralpath.net www.neutralpath.net

March 8, 2017

Re: New Switch Testing

by Jason Hanke

Did Cologix install a fiber panel in the new MICE rack or are we going to continue to use "loosies"? On Wed, Mar 8, 2017 at 4:23 PM, Justin Krejci <JKrejci(a)usinternet.com> wrote: > Funny, I am just ordering my 100-gig optics for USI to move to the new MICE Arista switch at 100-gig. > So you can put US Internet on that list too. > > Thanks! > > ________________________________________ > From: MICE Discuss [MICE-DISCUSS(a)LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET] on behalf of DeLong, Owen [00000005a669d12e-dmarc-request(a)LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET] > Sent: Wednesday, March 08, 2017 4:12 PM > To: MICE-DISCUSS(a)LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET > Subject: Re: [MICE-DISCUSS] New Switch Testing > > I’m willing to put Akamai in the early-adopter set after the first round of testing if that is helpful. > > Owen > >> On Mar 8, 2017, at 14:03 , Jeremy Lumby <jlumby(a)MNVOIP.COM> wrote: >> >> I was curious if there are MICE members that are currently connected to the main Juniper switch with a 10G optical connection that want to be considered for testing, and be the first to be moved to the new Arista switch. This is still a little way out, however I just wanted to see who was interested. >> >> >> Jeremy Lumby >> Minnesota VoIP >> 9217 17th Ave S >> Suite 216 >> Bloomington, MN 55425 >> Main: 612-355-7740 x211 >> Direct: 612-392-6814 >> EFax: 952-873-7425 >> jlumby(a)mnvoip.com > -- Jay Hanke CTO Neutral Path Communications 3 Civic Center Plaza, Suite 204 Mankato, MN 56001 (507) 327-2398 mobile jayhanke(a)neutralpath.net www.neutralpath.net

March 8, 2017

Re: New Switch Testing

by Justin Krejci

Funny, I am just ordering my 100-gig optics for USI to move to the new MICE Arista switch at 100-gig. So you can put US Internet on that list too. Thanks! ________________________________________ From: MICE Discuss [MICE-DISCUSS(a)LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET] on behalf of DeLong, Owen [00000005a669d12e-dmarc-request(a)LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET] Sent: Wednesday, March 08, 2017 4:12 PM To: MICE-DISCUSS(a)LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET Subject: Re: [MICE-DISCUSS] New Switch Testing I’m willing to put Akamai in the early-adopter set after the first round of testing if that is helpful. Owen > On Mar 8, 2017, at 14:03 , Jeremy Lumby <jlumby(a)MNVOIP.COM> wrote: > > I was curious if there are MICE members that are currently connected to the main Juniper switch with a 10G optical connection that want to be considered for testing, and be the first to be moved to the new Arista switch. This is still a little way out, however I just wanted to see who was interested. > > > Jeremy Lumby > Minnesota VoIP > 9217 17th Ave S > Suite 216 > Bloomington, MN 55425 > Main: 612-355-7740 x211 > Direct: 612-392-6814 > EFax: 952-873-7425 > jlumby(a)mnvoip.com

March 8, 2017

Re: New Switch Testing

by DeLong, Owen

I’m willing to put Akamai in the early-adopter set after the first round of testing if that is helpful. Owen > On Mar 8, 2017, at 14:03 , Jeremy Lumby <jlumby(a)MNVOIP.COM> wrote: > > I was curious if there are MICE members that are currently connected to the main Juniper switch with a 10G optical connection that want to be considered for testing, and be the first to be moved to the new Arista switch. This is still a little way out, however I just wanted to see who was interested. > > > Jeremy Lumby > Minnesota VoIP > 9217 17th Ave S > Suite 216 > Bloomington, MN 55425 > Main: 612-355-7740 x211 > Direct: 612-392-6814 > EFax: 952-873-7425 > jlumby(a)mnvoip.com

March 8, 2017

New Switch Testing

by Jeremy Lumby

I was curious if there are MICE members that are currently connected to the main Juniper switch with a 10G optical connection that want to be considered for testing, and be the first to be moved to the new Arista switch. This is still a little way out, however I just wanted to see who was interested. Jeremy Lumby Minnesota VoIP 9217 17th Ave S Suite 216 Bloomington, MN 55425 Main: 612-355-7740 x211 Direct: 612-392-6814 EFax: 952-873-7425 jlumby(a)mnvoip.com

March 8, 2017

MICE Optical Port Exhaustion

by Jason Hanke

We are currently out of optical ports on the main switch. There is a waiting list for additional ports. -- Jay Hanke CTO Neutral Path Communications 3 Civic Center Plaza, Suite 204 Mankato, MN 56001 (507) 327-2398 mobile jayhanke(a)neutralpath.net www.neutralpath.net

March 8, 2017

Google Congestion Resolution

by Jeremy Lumby

I just wanted to let everyone know that Google just completed their 60G MICE upgrade so the saturation issues we were seeing in the past couple weeks should now be gone. Jeremy Lumby Minnesota VoIP 9217 17th Ave S Suite 216 Bloomington, MN 55425 Main: 612-355-7740 x211 Direct: 612-392-6814 EFax: 952-873-7425 jlumby(a)mnvoip.com

March 8, 2017

Re: MICE Name tags for MTA

by John Unger

Looks good…. Any thoughts on this being available as a sign or sticker for our places of business or a table top sign for trade shows and finally as a digital sign for Websites? From: MICE Discuss [mailto:MICE-DISCUSS@LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET] On Behalf Of Steve Howard Sent: Tuesday, March 7, 2017 3:26 PM To: MICE-DISCUSS(a)LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET Subject: Re: [MICE-DISCUSS] MICE Name tags for MTA We made a few changes to distinguish the graphic from the logo text. Here is the version that is going to the printer. Thanks everybody for the suggestions! On 03/07/2017 02:09 PM, DeLong, Owen wrote: I will say that I like the colors from the proposed name tag better than the ones on the web site. Owen On Mar 2, 2017, at 19:07 , Reid Fishler <rfishler(a)he.net<mailto:rfishler@he.net>> wrote: I agree with Dave. Reid On Thu, Mar 2, 2017 at 9:54 PM, David Farmer <farmer(a)umn.edu<mailto:farmer@umn.edu>> wrote: On Thu, Mar 2, 2017 at 6:18 PM, Bil MacLeslie <bil(a)iphouse.net<mailto:bil@iphouse.net>> wrote: On 3/2/17 5:58 PM, Steve Howard wrote: I've asked our graphic design guy to make up some "Ask me about MICE" name tags for us to use at MTA and other events. I've attached his draft. It would be a plastic badge, 3” x 1.5”. Does anybody have any thoughts, corrections, or suggestions? Steve, I thought it said SMICE at first glance... Any chance to give some space between the graphic and the name? Bil The logo on the webpage has the text spelled out under the acronym and not the graphical element, I think that helps make it clear the "S" looking thing is just a graphical element. <image.png> That's my $.02, hope it helps things add up so to speak. Anyway, thanks for doing this Steve. -- =============================================== David Farmer Email:farmer@umn.edu<mailto:Email%3Afarmer@umn.edu> Networking & Telecommunication Services Office of Information Technology University of Minnesota 2218 University Ave SE Phone: 612-626-0815<tel:%28612%29%20626-0815> Minneapolis, MN 55414-3029 Cell: 612-812-9952<tel:%28612%29%20812-9952> =============================================== ________________________________ To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1<https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__lists.iphouse.net_cgi-2…> -- Reid Fishler Director Hurricane Electric +1-510-580-4178 ________________________________ To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1<https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__lists.iphouse.net_cgi-2…> ________________________________ To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1 ________________________________ To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1

March 7, 2017

Re: MICE Name tags for MTA

by DeLong, Owen

Looks awesome. Great job!! Owen On Mar 7, 2017, at 13:26 , Steve Howard <showard(a)PAULBUNYAN.NET<mailto:showard@paulbunyan.net>> wrote: We made a few changes to distinguish the graphic from the logo text. Here is the version that is going to the printer. Thanks everybody for the suggestions! On 03/07/2017 02:09 PM, DeLong, Owen wrote: I will say that I like the colors from the proposed name tag better than the ones on the web site. Owen On Mar 2, 2017, at 19:07 , Reid Fishler <rfishler(a)he.net<mailto:rfishler@he.net>> wrote: I agree with Dave. Reid On Thu, Mar 2, 2017 at 9:54 PM, David Farmer <farmer(a)umn.edu<mailto:farmer@umn.edu>> wrote: On Thu, Mar 2, 2017 at 6:18 PM, Bil MacLeslie <bil(a)iphouse.net<mailto:bil@iphouse.net>> wrote: On 3/2/17 5:58 PM, Steve Howard wrote: I've asked our graphic design guy to make up some "Ask me about MICE" name tags for us to use at MTA and other events. I've attached his draft. It would be a plastic badge, 3” x 1.5”. Does anybody have any thoughts, corrections, or suggestions? Steve, I thought it said SMICE at first glance... Any chance to give some space between the graphic and the name? Bil The logo on the webpage has the text spelled out under the acronym and not the graphical element, I think that helps make it clear the "S" looking thing is just a graphical element. <image.png> That's my $.02, hope it helps things add up so to speak. Anyway, thanks for doing this Steve. -- =============================================== David Farmer Email:farmer@umn.edu<mailto:Email%3Afarmer@umn.edu> Networking & Telecommunication Services Office of Information Technology University of Minnesota 2218 University Ave SE Phone: 612-626-0815<tel:%28612%29%20626-0815> Minneapolis, MN 55414-3029 Cell: 612-812-9952<tel:%28612%29%20812-9952> =============================================== ________________________________ To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1<https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__lists.iphouse.net_cgi-2…> -- Reid Fishler Director Hurricane Electric +1-510-580-4178 ________________________________ To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1<https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__lists.iphouse.net_cgi-2…> ________________________________ To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1<https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__lists.iphouse.net_cgi-2…> ________________________________ To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1<https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__lists.iphouse.net_cgi-2…> <MICE-Nametag2.pdf>

March 7, 2017

Re: MICE Name tags for MTA

by Steve Howard

March 7, 2017

Re: MICE Name tags for MTA

by DeLong, Owen

I will say that I like the colors from the proposed name tag better than the ones on the web site. Owen On Mar 2, 2017, at 19:07 , Reid Fishler <rfishler(a)he.net<mailto:rfishler@he.net>> wrote: I agree with Dave. Reid On Thu, Mar 2, 2017 at 9:54 PM, David Farmer <farmer(a)umn.edu<mailto:farmer@umn.edu>> wrote: On Thu, Mar 2, 2017 at 6:18 PM, Bil MacLeslie <bil(a)iphouse.net<mailto:bil@iphouse.net>> wrote: On 3/2/17 5:58 PM, Steve Howard wrote: I've asked our graphic design guy to make up some "Ask me about MICE" name tags for us to use at MTA and other events. I've attached his draft. It would be a plastic badge, 3” x 1.5”. Does anybody have any thoughts, corrections, or suggestions? Steve, I thought it said SMICE at first glance... Any chance to give some space between the graphic and the name? Bil The logo on the webpage has the text spelled out under the acronym and not the graphical element, I think that helps make it clear the "S" looking thing is just a graphical element. <image.png> That's my $.02, hope it helps things add up so to speak. Anyway, thanks for doing this Steve. -- =============================================== David Farmer Email:farmer@umn.edu<mailto:Email%3Afarmer@umn.edu> Networking & Telecommunication Services Office of Information Technology University of Minnesota 2218 University Ave SE Phone: 612-626-0815<tel:(612)%20626-0815> Minneapolis, MN 55414-3029 Cell: 612-812-9952<tel:(612)%20812-9952> =============================================== ________________________________ To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1<https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__lists.iphouse.net_cgi-2…> -- Reid Fishler Director Hurricane Electric +1-510-580-4178 ________________________________ To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1<https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__lists.iphouse.net_cgi-2…>

March 7, 2017

Re: New MICE Switch

by Mike Horwath

> On Mar 3, 2017, at 4:48 PM, Mike O'Connor <mike(a)haven2.com> wrote: > > single point of failure? maybe we need another? I think there needs to be a little more revenue first.. -- Mike Horwath, reachable via drechsau(a)Geeks.ORG

March 4, 2017

Re: Compudyne (AS47096) adding IPv6

by Mike Horwath

On Fri, Mar 03, 2017 at 10:28:44PM +0000, Ryan Nelson wrote: > FYI, we at Compudyne are in the process of deploying IPv6. Over the > next week we'll be turning up BGP sessions to route servers and > contacting bilateral peers about setting up sessions. Awesome! -- Mike Horwath, reachable via drechsau(a)Geeks.ORG

March 4, 2017

Re: New MICE Switch

by Mike O'Connor

single point of failure? maybe we need another? > The new switch has arrived (see attached). It is now in the rack. There are a > few things to do to get it powered up, however it is very nice to finally see it. > > > Jeremy Lumby > Minnesota VoIP > 9217 17th Ave S > Suite 216 > Bloomington, MN 55425 > Main: 612-355-7740 x211 > Direct: 612-392-6814 > EFax: 952-873-7425 > jlumby(a)mnvoip.com > WI:(715) 598-4284 MN:(651) 647-6109 Toll Free:(800) 896-0907 Fax:(866)-280-2356

March 3, 2017

Re: REMINDER - Annual Port Fees

by Gary Glissendorf

That would be accountspayable(a)sdncommunications.com<mailto:accountspayable@sdncommunications.com> gary.glissendorf(a)sdncommunications.com <mailto:gary.glissendorf@sdncommunications.com> 2900 W. 10th St. | Sioux Falls, SD 57104 (w) 605.978.3558 | (c) 605.359-3737 | (tf) 800.247.1442 SDN NOC 877.287.8023 NOC Support email: sdnsupport(a)sdncommunications.com<mailto:sdnsupport@sdncommunications.com> “Be Excellent to Each Other” From: MICE Discuss [mailto:MICE-DISCUSS@LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET] On Behalf Of Kayla Olsen Sent: Friday, March 3, 2017 4:12 PM To: MICE-DISCUSS(a)LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET Subject: [MICE-DISCUSS] REMINDER - Annual Port Fees Greetings, If you have not provided your Accounts Payable contact information for the annual port fees, please do so asap. The annual fees are put toward the maintenance costs for the shiny new switch that arrived today! Have a great weekend. Kayla Olsen Senior Manager of Finance and Operations Neutral Path Communications 3 Civic Center Plaza, Suite 204 Mankato, MN 56001 612.877.6500 Office 320.894.3125 Mobile kolsen(a)neutralpath.net<mailto:kpowers@neutralpath.net> www.neutralpath.com<http://www.neutralpath.com/> Twitter: @NeutralPath [logo] Please note my new name and email address: kolsen(a)neutralpath.net<mailto:kolsen@neutralpath.net> On Wed, Jan 25, 2017 at 9:56 AM, Kayla Powers <kpowers(a)neutralpath.net<mailto:kpowers@neutralpath.net>> wrote: REMINDER: If you have one or more ports on the *main* switches, please send accounts payable information to Kayla Powers, our treasurer, at: kpowers(a)neutralpath.net<mailto:kpowers@neutralpath.net> The board has approved port fees in line with the discussion from the most recent UG meeting. The details are documented on the services page on the website: http://micemn.net/services.html Kayla Powers Senior Manager of Finance and Operations Neutral Path Communications 3 Civic Center Plaza, Suite 204 Mankato, MN 56001 612.877.6500<tel:(612)%20877-6500> Office 320.894.3125<tel:(320)%20894-3125> Mobile kpowers(a)neutralpath.net<mailto:kpowers@neutralpath.net> www.neutralpath.com<http://www.neutralpath.com> Twitter: @NeutralPath [logo] On Thu, Jan 5, 2017 at 11:31 AM, Richard Laager <rlaager(a)wiktel.com<mailto:rlaager@wiktel.com>> wrote: The board has approved port fees in line with the discussion from the most recent UG meeting. The details are documented on the services page on the website: http://micemn.net/services.html If you have one or more ports on the *main* switches, please send accounts payable information to Kayla Powers, our treasurer, at: kpowers(a)neutralpath.net<mailto:kpowers@neutralpath.net> -- Richard ________________________________ To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1 ________________________________ ***This message and any attachments are solely for the intended recipient. If you are not the intended recipient, disclosure, copying, use or distribution of the information included in this message is prohibited -- Please immediately and permanently delete.***

March 3, 2017

Re: New MICE Switch

by Nevin Lyne

Oh yeah, that is a nice looking switch! -- Nevin Lyne -- Founder & Director of Technology -- Arcustech, LLC. - arcustech.com -- Gippy's Internet Solutions, LLC. - enginehosting.com On Friday, March 3, 2017 3:35pm, "Jeremy Lumby" <jlumby(a)MNVOIP.COM> said: > The new switch has arrived (see attached). It is now in the rack. There are a > few things to do to get it powered up, however it is very nice to finally see it. > > > Jeremy Lumby > Minnesota VoIP > 9217 17th Ave S > Suite 216 > Bloomington, MN 55425 > Main: 612-355-7740 x211 > Direct: 612-392-6814 > EFax: 952-873-7425 > jlumby(a)mnvoip.com >

March 3, 2017

Compudyne (AS47096) adding IPv6

by Ryan Nelson

FYI, we at Compudyne are in the process of deploying IPv6. Over the next week we'll be turning up BGP sessions to route servers and contacting bilateral peers about setting up sessions. Have a great weekend! Ryan Nelson | Network Services Architect Compudyne | 306 W Michigan Street - Suite 200 | Duluth, MN 55802 rnelson(a)compudyne.com<mailto:rnelson@compudyne.com> | 218.336.2220 | compudyne.com<http://www.compudyne.com/> Duluth | Hibbing | Saint Paul | Marquette | Houghton | Anchorage ________________________________ [cid:image002.png@01D0BA36.584BB020]

March 3, 2017

Re: New MICE Switch

by Ben Wiechman

Nice! Ben Wiechman Network Engineer IV | Arvig Direct: 320.256.0184 Cell: 320.247.3224 Office: 320.256.7471 ben.wiechman(a)arvig.com On Fri, Mar 3, 2017 at 3:57 PM, Justin Krejci <JKrejci(a)usinternet.com> wrote: > Jeez... why didn't warn us the pictures are NSFW first?? > > </nerd porn> > > :) > > > > > ________________________________________ > From: MICE Discuss [MICE-DISCUSS(a)LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET] on behalf of Jeremy > Lumby [jlumby(a)MNVOIP.COM] > Sent: Friday, March 03, 2017 3:35 PM > To: MICE-DISCUSS(a)LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET > Subject: [MICE-DISCUSS] New MICE Switch > > The new switch has arrived (see attached). It is now in the rack. There > are a few things to do to get it powered up, however it is very nice to > finally see it. > > > Jeremy Lumby > Minnesota VoIP > 9217 17th Ave S > Suite 216 > Bloomington, MN 55425 > Main: 612-355-7740 x211 > Direct: 612-392-6814 > EFax: 952-873-7425 > jlumby(a)mnvoip.com > >

March 3, 2017

Re: New MICE Switch

by Scott Strelitz

Nice Pics.Thanks for sending Jeremy! *Scott Strelitz* Sales Director North Central *Arista Networks, Inc. * Ph: 1-847-833-5330 Email: sstrelitz(a)arista.com Web: www.arista.com Software Driven Cloud Networking <https://www.linkedin.com/company/arista-networks-inc> <https://www.facebook.com/AristaNW/> <https://twitter.com/aristanetworks> <https://www.youtube.com/user/AristaNetworks>2016 Gartner Magic Quadrant for Data Center Networking <https://www.gartner.com/doc/reprints?ct=160517&id=1-36UFTCZ&st=sb> On March 3, 2017 at 3:35:18 PM, Jeremy Lumby (jlumby(a)mnvoip.com) wrote: The new switch has arrived (see attached). It is now in the rack. There are a few things to do to get it powered up, however it is very nice to finally see it. Jeremy Lumby Minnesota VoIP 9217 17th Ave S Suite 216 Bloomington, MN 55425 Main: 612-355-7740 x211 Direct: 612-392-6814 EFax: 952-873-7425 jlumby(a)mnvoip.com

March 3, 2017

REMINDER - Annual Port Fees

by Kayla Olsen

Greetings, If you have not provided your Accounts Payable contact information for the annual port fees, please do so asap. The annual fees are put toward the maintenance costs for the shiny new switch that arrived today! Have a great weekend. *Kayla Olsen* Senior Manager of Finance and Operations Neutral Path Communications 3 Civic Center Plaza, Suite 204 Mankato, MN 56001 612.877.6500 Office 320.894.3125 Mobile kolsen(a)neutralpath.net <kpowers(a)neutralpath.net> www.neutralpath.com Twitter: @NeutralPath [image: logo] *Please note my new name and email address: kolsen(a)neutralpath.net <kolsen(a)neutralpath.net> * On Wed, Jan 25, 2017 at 9:56 AM, Kayla Powers <kpowers(a)neutralpath.net> wrote: > REMINDER: If you have one or more ports on the *main* switches, please send > accounts payable information to Kayla Powers, our treasurer, at: > kpowers(a)neutralpath.net > > > The board has approved port fees in line with the discussion from the > most recent UG meeting. > > The details are documented on the services page on the website: > http://micemn.net/services.html > > > <kpowers(a)neutralpath.net> > > *Kayla Powers* > Senior Manager of Finance and Operations > Neutral Path Communications > 3 Civic Center Plaza, Suite 204 > Mankato, MN 56001 > 612.877.6500 <(612)%20877-6500> Office > 320.894.3125 <(320)%20894-3125> Mobile > kpowers(a)neutralpath.net > www.neutralpath.com > Twitter: @NeutralPath > > [image: logo] > > On Thu, Jan 5, 2017 at 11:31 AM, Richard Laager <rlaager(a)wiktel.com> > wrote: > >> The board has approved port fees in line with the discussion from the >> most recent UG meeting. >> >> The details are documented on the services page on the website: >> http://micemn.net/services.html >> >> If you have one or more ports on the *main* switches, please send >> accounts payable information to Kayla Powers, our treasurer, at: >> kpowers(a)neutralpath.net >> >> -- >> Richard >> > >

March 3, 2017

Re: MICE Name tags for MTA

by Steve Howard

March 3, 2017

Re: New MICE Switch

by Justin Krejci

Jeez... why didn't warn us the pictures are NSFW first?? </nerd porn> :) ________________________________________ From: MICE Discuss [MICE-DISCUSS(a)LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET] on behalf of Jeremy Lumby [jlumby(a)MNVOIP.COM] Sent: Friday, March 03, 2017 3:35 PM To: MICE-DISCUSS(a)LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET Subject: [MICE-DISCUSS] New MICE Switch The new switch has arrived (see attached). It is now in the rack. There are a few things to do to get it powered up, however it is very nice to finally see it. Jeremy Lumby Minnesota VoIP 9217 17th Ave S Suite 216 Bloomington, MN 55425 Main: 612-355-7740 x211 Direct: 612-392-6814 EFax: 952-873-7425 jlumby(a)mnvoip.com

March 3, 2017

Re: New MICE Switch

by Doug McIntyre

On Fri, Mar 03, 2017 at 03:35:00PM -0600, Jeremy Lumby wrote: > The new switch has arrived (see attached). It is now in the rack. There are a few things to do to get it powered up, however it is very nice to finally see it. Very cool. It should really carry MICE forward. -- Doug McIntyre <merlyn(a)iphouse.net> ~.~ ipHouse ~.~ Network Engineer/Provisioning/Jack of all Trades

March 3, 2017

New MICE Switch

by Jeremy Lumby

The new switch has arrived (see attached). It is now in the rack. There are a few things to do to get it powered up, however it is very nice to finally see it. Jeremy Lumby Minnesota VoIP 9217 17th Ave S Suite 216 Bloomington, MN 55425 Main: 612-355-7740 x211 Direct: 612-392-6814 EFax: 952-873-7425 jlumby(a)mnvoip.com

March 3, 2017

Re: MICE Name tags for MTA

by Reid Fishler

I agree with Dave. Reid On Thu, Mar 2, 2017 at 9:54 PM, David Farmer <farmer(a)umn.edu> wrote: > > > On Thu, Mar 2, 2017 at 6:18 PM, Bil MacLeslie <bil(a)iphouse.net> wrote: > >> On 3/2/17 5:58 PM, Steve Howard wrote: >> >>> I've asked our graphic design guy to make up some "Ask me about MICE" >>> name tags for us to use at MTA and other events. >>> >>> I've attached his draft. It would be a plastic badge, 3” x 1.5”. Does >>> anybody have any thoughts, corrections, or suggestions? >>> >> >> Steve, >> >> I thought it said SMICE at first glance... Any chance to give some space >> between the graphic and the name? >> >> Bil >> >> > The logo on the webpage has the text spelled out under the acronym and not > the graphical element, I think that helps make it clear the "S" looking > thing is just a graphical element. > [image: Inline image 1] > That's my $.02, hope it helps things add up so to speak. > > Anyway, thanks for doing this Steve. > > -- > =============================================== > David Farmer Email:farmer@umn.edu > Networking & Telecommunication Services > Office of Information Technology > University of Minnesota > 2218 University Ave SE Phone: 612-626-0815 <(612)%20626-0815> > Minneapolis, MN 55414-3029 Cell: 612-812-9952 <(612)%20812-9952> > =============================================== > > ------------------------------ > > To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: > http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1 > -- Reid Fishler Director Hurricane Electric +1-510-580-4178

March 3, 2017

Re: MICE Name tags for MTA

by David Farmer

On Thu, Mar 2, 2017 at 6:18 PM, Bil MacLeslie <bil(a)iphouse.net> wrote: > On 3/2/17 5:58 PM, Steve Howard wrote: > >> I've asked our graphic design guy to make up some "Ask me about MICE" >> name tags for us to use at MTA and other events. >> >> I've attached his draft. It would be a plastic badge, 3” x 1.5”. Does >> anybody have any thoughts, corrections, or suggestions? >> > > Steve, > > I thought it said SMICE at first glance... Any chance to give some space > between the graphic and the name? > > Bil > > The logo on the webpage has the text spelled out under the acronym and not the graphical element, I think that helps make it clear the "S" looking thing is just a graphical element. [image: Inline image 1] That's my $.02, hope it helps things add up so to speak. Anyway, thanks for doing this Steve. -- =============================================== David Farmer Email:farmer@umn.edu Networking & Telecommunication Services Office of Information Technology University of Minnesota 2218 University Ave SE Phone: 612-626-0815 Minneapolis, MN 55414-3029 Cell: 612-812-9952 ===============================================

March 3, 2017

Re: MICE Name tags for MTA

by Bil MacLeslie

On 3/2/17 5:58 PM, Steve Howard wrote: > I've asked our graphic design guy to make up some "Ask me about MICE" > name tags for us to use at MTA and other events. > > I've attached his draft. It would be a plastic badge, 3” x 1.5”. Does > anybody have any thoughts, corrections, or suggestions? Steve, I thought it said SMICE at first glance... Any chance to give some space between the graphic and the name? Bil -- Bil K. MacLeslie | TGWGTD | ipHouse | www.ipHouse.com Office: 612-337-6337 | Direct: 612-337-6206 | Cell: 612-618-1218

March 3, 2017

MICE Name tags for MTA

by Steve Howard

March 2, 2017

Re: Arista

by Jeremy Lumby

Jay, I am no longer under the weather, and will probably be there tomorrow. Jeremy From: MICE Discuss [mailto:MICE-DISCUSS@LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET] On Behalf Of Jason Hanke Sent: Thursday, March 02, 2017 5:18 PM To: MICE-DISCUSS(a)LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET Subject: Re: [MICE-DISCUSS] Arista Did anyone get eyes on the new switch? On Wed, Mar 1, 2017 at 3:18 PM, Jason Hanke <jayhanke(a)neutralpath.net> wrote: Did the switch arrive in one piece? -- Jay Hanke CTO Neutral Path Communications 3 Civic Center Plaza, Suite 204 Mankato, MN 56001 (507) 327-2398 mobile jayhanke(a)neutralpath.net www.neutralpath.net -- Jay Hanke CTO Neutral Path Communications 3 Civic Center Plaza, Suite 204 Mankato, MN 56001 (507) 327-2398 mobile jayhanke(a)neutralpath.net www.neutralpath.net To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1

March 2, 2017

Re: Arista

by Jason Hanke

Did anyone get eyes on the new switch? On Wed, Mar 1, 2017 at 3:18 PM, Jason Hanke <jayhanke(a)neutralpath.net> wrote: > Did the switch arrive in one piece? > > -- > Jay Hanke > CTO > Neutral Path Communications > 3 Civic Center Plaza, Suite 204 > Mankato, MN 56001 > (507) 327-2398 mobile > jayhanke(a)neutralpath.net > www.neutralpath.net > -- Jay Hanke CTO Neutral Path Communications 3 Civic Center Plaza, Suite 204 Mankato, MN 56001 (507) 327-2398 mobile jayhanke(a)neutralpath.net www.neutralpath.net

March 2, 2017

Re: MICE People (Was: Re: MICE core switch maintenance window - 10/27/2016 12:30AM-1:00AM CDT)

by Andrew Hoyos

On Mar 1, 2017, at 5:49 PM, Richard Laager <rlaager(a)WIKTEL.COM> wrote: > > On 10/25/2016 01:56 PM, Richard Laager wrote: >> On 10/25/2016 09:40 AM, Andrew Hoyos wrote: >>> My suggestion would be for the formal creation of a technical committee by the board >> >> This is something I intend to work on soon, but the tax-exempt thing is >> higher priority. >> >> I'm envisioning: >> >> 1) making a page on the MICE website like the following page: >> https://www.seattleix.net/whos-who > > This is now done, and was reviewed by the people mentioned: > http://micemn.net/people.html > >> 2) asking the board to ACK its contents > > The officers were previously appointed by board vote. We just now ACK'ed > the committees. It's definitely all official now. Thanks for your work on this, Richard! -- Andrew Hoyos hoyosa(a)gmail.com

March 2, 2017

MICE People (Was: Re: MICE core switch maintenance window - 10/27/2016 12:30AM-1:00AM CDT)

by Richard Laager

On 10/25/2016 01:56 PM, Richard Laager wrote: > On 10/25/2016 09:40 AM, Andrew Hoyos wrote: >> My suggestion would be for the formal creation of a technical committee by the board > > This is something I intend to work on soon, but the tax-exempt thing is > higher priority. > > I'm envisioning: > > 1) making a page on the MICE website like the following page: > https://www.seattleix.net/whos-who This is now done, and was reviewed by the people mentioned: http://micemn.net/people.html > 2) asking the board to ACK its contents The officers were previously appointed by board vote. We just now ACK'ed the committees. It's definitely all official now. > 3) asking for a MICE-TECH and/or MICE-OPS list be created (depending on > whether we have distinct groups and what those people want). I expect at > least one list will be closed to members only. This was discussed previously and there wasn't a lot of interest. -- Richard

March 1, 2017

Arista

by Jason Hanke

Did the switch arrive in one piece? -- Jay Hanke CTO Neutral Path Communications 3 Civic Center Plaza, Suite 204 Mankato, MN 56001 (507) 327-2398 mobile jayhanke(a)neutralpath.net www.neutralpath.net

March 1, 2017

Re: Arista switch!

by Scott Strelitz

Jay- Let me know if you need any help with anything as you get it set up. Make sure you have your account with Arista TAC all set as well and we can get you all lit up! Thanks, Scott *Scott Strelitz* Sales Director North Central *Arista Networks, Inc. * Ph: 1-847-833-5330 Email: sstrelitz(a)arista.com Web: www.arista.com Software Driven Cloud Networking <https://www.linkedin.com/company/arista-networks-inc> <https://www.facebook.com/AristaNW/> <https://twitter.com/aristanetworks> <https://www.youtube.com/user/AristaNetworks>2016 Gartner Magic Quadrant for Data Center Networking <https://www.gartner.com/doc/reprints?ct=160517&id=1-36UFTCZ&st=sb> On February 28, 2017 at 9:37:04 AM, Jason Hanke (jayhanke(a)neutralpath.net) wrote: FedEx says it's going to deliver today! https://www.fedex.com/apps/fedextrack/?tracknumbers=674799919944&language=e… -- Jay Hanke CTO Neutral Path Communications 3 Civic Center Plaza, Suite 204 Mankato, MN 56001 (507) 327-2398 mobile jayhanke(a)neutralpath.net www.neutralpath.net ------------------------------ To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1

Feb. 28, 2017

Arista switch!

by Jason Hanke

FedEx says it's going to deliver today! https://www.fedex.com/apps/fedextrack/?tracknumbers=674799919944&language=e… -- Jay Hanke CTO Neutral Path Communications 3 Civic Center Plaza, Suite 204 Mankato, MN 56001 (507) 327-2398 mobile jayhanke(a)neutralpath.net www.neutralpath.net

Feb. 28, 2017

Re: Youtube issues

by Shaun Carlson

I did notice that the local cache seems to have a little more traffic than usual lately. I wonder if that's related. s Shaun Carlson Director of Information Technology | Arvig ph: (218) (tel:(218)%C2%A0346-8673)346-8673 (tel:(218)%C2%A0346-8673) | em: shaun.carlson(a)arvig.com (mailto:shaun.carlson@arvig.com) On Feb 24, 2017, 21:00 -0600, Ben Wiechman <ben.wiechman(a)arvig.com>, wrote: > We're trying to track down specific reports. We have a local cache so I think that is masking most of the potential issues. One or two folks mentioned some Youtube buffering after being informed of a potential issue so it seems likely there is some impact, but I couldn't say with complete certainty that congestion through MICE is the cause. > > I did open a ticket with Google as well to see if they would make a specific recommendation or otherwise comment on their suggested course of action to minimize customer impact. We'll see what they say. > > We've needed an excuse to review how we are advertising our prefixes to Google anyway. > > Our interest was in taking a (semi) proactive stance to attempt to prioritize other sources until this issue is resolved. > > > Ben Wiechman > Network Engineer IV | Arvig > Direct: 320.256.0184 (tel:320.256.0184) > Cell: 320.247.3224 (tel:320.247.3224) > Office: 320.256.7471 (tel:320.256.7471) > ben.wiechman(a)arvig.com (mailto:ben.wiechman@arvig.com) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Fri, Feb 24, 2017 at 8:54 PM, Andrew Hoyos <hoyosa(a)gmail.com (mailto:hoyosa@gmail.com)> wrote: > > Ben, is Arvig seeing problems too? > > > > Seems like at this scale and number of complaints, Google should work their black magic to shed some traffic to different GGC nodes, rather than all of us having to actively try and coerce traffic elsewhere. > > > > There clearly seems to be an issue here, and Google has yet to ack. > > > > -- > > Andrew Hoyos > > hoyosa(a)gmail.com (mailto:hoyosa@gmail.com) > > > > > > On Feb 24, 2017, at 8:46 PM, Ben Wiechman <ben.wiechman(a)ARVIG.COM (mailto:ben.wiechman@ARVIG.COM)> wrote: > > > > > To confirm what others have found to be effective. > > > > > > Are you advertising community 15169:13000 to the route servers, and on any direct peering sessions with AS36040? > > > > > > > > > Ben Wiechman > > > Network Engineer IV | Arvig > > > Direct: 320.256.0184 (tel:(320)%20256-0184) > > > Cell: 320.247.3224 (tel:(320)%20247-3224) > > > Office: 320.256.7471 (tel:(320)%20256-7471) > > > ben.wiechman(a)arvig.com (mailto:ben.wiechman@arvig.com) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Fri, Feb 24, 2017 at 3:29 PM, Mike Horwath <drechsau(a)geeks.org (mailto:drechsau@geeks.org)> wrote: > > > > On Fri, Feb 24, 2017 at 10:38:43AM -0600, Andrew Hoyos wrote: > > > > > > On Feb 24, 2017, at 10:26 AM, Mike Horwath <drechsau(a)Geeks.ORG (mailto:drechsau@Geeks.ORG)> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > On Fri, Feb 24, 2017 at 08:56:33AM -0600, Andrew Hoyos wrote: > > > > > >> 36040 is a customer of HE.net (http://HE.net) in MSP, so you'd need to send those to > > > > > >> HE as well if you peer with them or are a customer. Otherwise they > > > > > >> will learn your prefixes that way too, sans communities. > > > > > > > > > > > > Why is a customer sending other peoples' routes into HE to then go > > > > > > into the exchange? > > > > > > > > > > 36040 is a customer of HE.net (http://HE.net) So, HE.net (http://HE.net) is sending them a full > > > > > table or some subset (including their peers and customers), as > > > > > expected. > > > > > > > > I misread and now understand. > > > > > > > > Thank you! > > > > > > > > I had taken it the other way which was making no freakin' sense at all > > > > in todays world of interconnectivity. > > > > > > > > -- > > > > Mike Horwath, reachable via drechsau(a)Geeks.ORG (mailto:drechsau@Geeks.ORG) > > > > > > > > > > > > To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: > > > http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: > > http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1 > > > > > > > > > > > > To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: > http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1 >

Feb. 25, 2017

Re: Youtube issues

by Ben Wiechman

We're trying to track down specific reports. We have a local cache so I think that is masking most of the potential issues. One or two folks mentioned some Youtube buffering after being informed of a potential issue so it seems likely there is some impact, but I couldn't say with complete certainty that congestion through MICE is the cause. I did open a ticket with Google as well to see if they would make a specific recommendation or otherwise comment on their suggested course of action to minimize customer impact. We'll see what they say. We've needed an excuse to review how we are advertising our prefixes to Google anyway. Our interest was in taking a (semi) proactive stance to attempt to prioritize other sources until this issue is resolved. Ben Wiechman Network Engineer IV | Arvig Direct: 320.256.0184 Cell: 320.247.3224 Office: 320.256.7471 ben.wiechman(a)arvig.com On Fri, Feb 24, 2017 at 8:54 PM, Andrew Hoyos <hoyosa(a)gmail.com> wrote: > Ben, is Arvig seeing problems too? > > Seems like at this scale and number of complaints, Google should work > their black magic to shed some traffic to different GGC nodes, rather than > all of us having to actively try and coerce traffic elsewhere. > > There clearly seems to be an issue here, and Google has yet to ack. > > -- > Andrew Hoyos > hoyosa(a)gmail.com > > On Feb 24, 2017, at 8:46 PM, Ben Wiechman <ben.wiechman(a)ARVIG.COM> wrote: > > To confirm what others have found to be effective. > > Are you advertising community 15169:13000 to the route servers, and on any > direct peering sessions with AS36040? > > > Ben Wiechman > Network Engineer IV | Arvig > Direct: 320.256.0184 <(320)%20256-0184> > Cell: 320.247.3224 <(320)%20247-3224> > Office: 320.256.7471 <(320)%20256-7471> > ben.wiechman(a)arvig.com > > On Fri, Feb 24, 2017 at 3:29 PM, Mike Horwath <drechsau(a)geeks.org> wrote: > >> On Fri, Feb 24, 2017 at 10:38:43AM -0600, Andrew Hoyos wrote: >> > > On Feb 24, 2017, at 10:26 AM, Mike Horwath <drechsau(a)Geeks.ORG> >> wrote: >> > > >> > > On Fri, Feb 24, 2017 at 08:56:33AM -0600, Andrew Hoyos wrote: >> > >> 36040 is a customer of HE.net in MSP, so you'd need to send those to >> > >> HE as well if you peer with them or are a customer. Otherwise they >> > >> will learn your prefixes that way too, sans communities. >> > > >> > > Why is a customer sending other peoples' routes into HE to then go >> > > into the exchange? >> > >> > 36040 is a customer of HE.net. So, HE.net is sending them a full >> > table or some subset (including their peers and customers), as >> > expected. >> >> I misread and now understand. >> >> Thank you! >> >> I had taken it the other way which was making no freakin' sense at all >> in todays world of interconnectivity. >> >> -- >> Mike Horwath, reachable via drechsau(a)Geeks.ORG >> > > > ------------------------------ > > To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: > http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1 > > > ------------------------------ > > To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: > http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1 >

Feb. 25, 2017

Re: Youtube issues

by Andrew Hoyos

Ben, is Arvig seeing problems too? Seems like at this scale and number of complaints, Google should work their black magic to shed some traffic to different GGC nodes, rather than all of us having to actively try and coerce traffic elsewhere. There clearly seems to be an issue here, and Google has yet to ack. -- Andrew Hoyos hoyosa(a)gmail.com > On Feb 24, 2017, at 8:46 PM, Ben Wiechman <ben.wiechman(a)ARVIG.COM> wrote: > > To confirm what others have found to be effective. > > Are you advertising community 15169:13000 to the route servers, and on any direct peering sessions with AS36040? > > > Ben Wiechman > Network Engineer IV | Arvig > Direct: 320.256.0184 > Cell: 320.247.3224 > Office: 320.256.7471 > ben.wiechman(a)arvig.com > >> On Fri, Feb 24, 2017 at 3:29 PM, Mike Horwath <drechsau(a)geeks.org> wrote: >> On Fri, Feb 24, 2017 at 10:38:43AM -0600, Andrew Hoyos wrote: >> > > On Feb 24, 2017, at 10:26 AM, Mike Horwath <drechsau(a)Geeks.ORG> wrote: >> > > >> > > On Fri, Feb 24, 2017 at 08:56:33AM -0600, Andrew Hoyos wrote: >> > >> 36040 is a customer of HE.net in MSP, so you'd need to send those to >> > >> HE as well if you peer with them or are a customer. Otherwise they >> > >> will learn your prefixes that way too, sans communities. >> > > >> > > Why is a customer sending other peoples' routes into HE to then go >> > > into the exchange? >> > >> > 36040 is a customer of HE.net. So, HE.net is sending them a full >> > table or some subset (including their peers and customers), as >> > expected. >> >> I misread and now understand. >> >> Thank you! >> >> I had taken it the other way which was making no freakin' sense at all >> in todays world of interconnectivity. >> >> -- >> Mike Horwath, reachable via drechsau(a)Geeks.ORG > > > To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: > http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1

Feb. 25, 2017

Re: Youtube issues

by Ben Wiechman

To confirm what others have found to be effective. Are you advertising community 15169:13000 to the route servers, and on any direct peering sessions with AS36040? Ben Wiechman Network Engineer IV | Arvig Direct: 320.256.0184 Cell: 320.247.3224 Office: 320.256.7471 ben.wiechman(a)arvig.com On Fri, Feb 24, 2017 at 3:29 PM, Mike Horwath <drechsau(a)geeks.org> wrote: > On Fri, Feb 24, 2017 at 10:38:43AM -0600, Andrew Hoyos wrote: > > > On Feb 24, 2017, at 10:26 AM, Mike Horwath <drechsau(a)Geeks.ORG> wrote: > > > > > > On Fri, Feb 24, 2017 at 08:56:33AM -0600, Andrew Hoyos wrote: > > >> 36040 is a customer of HE.net in MSP, so you'd need to send those to > > >> HE as well if you peer with them or are a customer. Otherwise they > > >> will learn your prefixes that way too, sans communities. > > > > > > Why is a customer sending other peoples' routes into HE to then go > > > into the exchange? > > > > 36040 is a customer of HE.net. So, HE.net is sending them a full > > table or some subset (including their peers and customers), as > > expected. > > I misread and now understand. > > Thank you! > > I had taken it the other way which was making no freakin' sense at all > in todays world of interconnectivity. > > -- > Mike Horwath, reachable via drechsau(a)Geeks.ORG >

Feb. 25, 2017

Re: Youtube issues

by Mike Horwath

On Fri, Feb 24, 2017 at 10:38:43AM -0600, Andrew Hoyos wrote: > > On Feb 24, 2017, at 10:26 AM, Mike Horwath <drechsau(a)Geeks.ORG> wrote: > > > > On Fri, Feb 24, 2017 at 08:56:33AM -0600, Andrew Hoyos wrote: > >> 36040 is a customer of HE.net in MSP, so you'd need to send those to > >> HE as well if you peer with them or are a customer. Otherwise they > >> will learn your prefixes that way too, sans communities. > > > > Why is a customer sending other peoples' routes into HE to then go > > into the exchange? > > 36040 is a customer of HE.net. So, HE.net is sending them a full > table or some subset (including their peers and customers), as > expected. I misread and now understand. Thank you! I had taken it the other way which was making no freakin' sense at all in todays world of interconnectivity. -- Mike Horwath, reachable via drechsau(a)Geeks.ORG

Feb. 24, 2017

Re: Youtube issues

by Andrew Hoyos

> On Feb 24, 2017, at 10:26 AM, Mike Horwath <drechsau(a)Geeks.ORG> wrote: > > On Fri, Feb 24, 2017 at 08:56:33AM -0600, Andrew Hoyos wrote: >> 36040 is a customer of HE.net in MSP, so you'd need to send those to >> HE as well if you peer with them or are a customer. Otherwise they >> will learn your prefixes that way too, sans communities. > > Why is a customer sending other peoples' routes into HE to then go > into the exchange? 36040 is a customer of HE.net. So, HE.net is sending them a full table or some subset (including their peers and customers), as expected. In turn, HE.net will advertise to *you*, their customer routes (including 36040, note the _6939_36040 path there), being learned via HE.net 208.117.253.0/24 *[BGP/170] 19:20:53, MED 0, localpref 200 AS path: 6939 36040 I, validation-state: unverified > to 206.108.255.52 via xe-0/0/0.0 Just saying, that if you depeer 36040, or add communities on a bilateral session to them, you’ll need to do the same if peering with HE.net or a customer of HE.net, as 36040 will learn your prefixes from 6939 too.

Feb. 24, 2017

Re: Youtube issues

by Mike Horwath

On Fri, Feb 24, 2017 at 08:56:33AM -0600, Andrew Hoyos wrote: > 36040 is a customer of HE.net in MSP, so you'd need to send those to > HE as well if you peer with them or are a customer. Otherwise they > will learn your prefixes that way too, sans communities. Why is a customer sending other peoples' routes into HE to then go into the exchange? -- Mike Horwath, reachable via drechsau(a)Geeks.ORG

Feb. 24, 2017

Re: Youtube issues

by Andrew Hoyos

36040 is a customer of HE.net in MSP, so you'd need to send those to HE as well if you peer with them or are a customer. Otherwise they will learn your prefixes that way too, sans communities. -- Andrew Hoyos hoyosa(a)gmail.com > On Feb 24, 2017, at 8:53 AM, Doug McIntyre <merlyn(a)IPHOUSE.NET> wrote: > > FWIW: in discussion with others, using communities back to the route-servers that > tell them to not pass your prefix onto Google does NOT seem to work. They seem > to cache and hold onto your information even after BGP prefix withdrawl. > > Going more active like below seems to be more effective. > > > >> On Fri, Feb 24, 2017 at 07:57:00AM -0600, Jeremy Lumby wrote: >> Matthew, >> >> As part of the tech committee, I recommend Colin's solution of Community Strings that I have copied in below. This should give everyone the control they need to help their connection until Google completes the upgrade. >> >> Jeremy >> >> >> We've had success with the action communities documented here: >> >> https://isp.google.com/static/downloads/BGPCommunitySupport.pdf >> >> Sending 15169:* to 36040 seems to work, including via route servers. >> >> -- >> Colin Baker >> SupraNet Communications, Inc. >> (608) 572-7634 >> colinb(a)supranet.net >> >> >> From: MICE Discuss [mailto:MICE-DISCUSS@LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET] On Behalf Of Matthew Beckwell >> Sent: Friday, February 24, 2017 7:48 AM >> To: MICE-DISCUSS(a)LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET >> Subject: Re: [MICE-DISCUSS] Youtube issues >> >> If it's creating issues for other members, it's time to take action until the 2 new 10G's are in place. >> >> What are our options? >> Remove from the route server? Ask large users to take one for the team and use their own transit for awhile? >> >> We need the technical committee to take the lead here. >> ~Matthew >> >> On Thu, Feb 23, 2017 at 11:47 PM, Richard Laager <rlaager(a)wiktel.com> wrote: >> I would imagine it is related to the Google congestion. We were seeing YouTube buffering yesterday. >> >> -- >> Richard >> >> >> >> >> >> To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: >> http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1 > > -- > Doug McIntyre <merlyn(a)iphouse.net> > ~.~ ipHouse ~.~ > Network Engineer/Provisioning/Jack of all Trades

Feb. 24, 2017

Re: Youtube issues

by Doug McIntyre

FWIW: in discussion with others, using communities back to the route-servers that tell them to not pass your prefix onto Google does NOT seem to work. They seem to cache and hold onto your information even after BGP prefix withdrawl. Going more active like below seems to be more effective. On Fri, Feb 24, 2017 at 07:57:00AM -0600, Jeremy Lumby wrote: > Matthew, > > As part of the tech committee, I recommend Colin's solution of Community Strings that I have copied in below. This should give everyone the control they need to help their connection until Google completes the upgrade. > > Jeremy > > > We've had success with the action communities documented here: > > https://isp.google.com/static/downloads/BGPCommunitySupport.pdf > > Sending 15169:* to 36040 seems to work, including via route servers. > > -- > Colin Baker > SupraNet Communications, Inc. > (608) 572-7634 > colinb(a)supranet.net > > > From: MICE Discuss [mailto:MICE-DISCUSS@LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET] On Behalf Of Matthew Beckwell > Sent: Friday, February 24, 2017 7:48 AM > To: MICE-DISCUSS(a)LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET > Subject: Re: [MICE-DISCUSS] Youtube issues > > If it's creating issues for other members, it's time to take action until the 2 new 10G's are in place. > > What are our options? > Remove from the route server? Ask large users to take one for the team and use their own transit for awhile? > > We need the technical committee to take the lead here. > ~Matthew > > On Thu, Feb 23, 2017 at 11:47 PM, Richard Laager <rlaager(a)wiktel.com> wrote: > I would imagine it is related to the Google congestion. We were seeing YouTube buffering yesterday. > > -- > Richard > > > > > > To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: > http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1 -- Doug McIntyre <merlyn(a)iphouse.net> ~.~ ipHouse ~.~ Network Engineer/Provisioning/Jack of all Trades

Feb. 24, 2017

Re: Youtube issues

by Jeremy Lumby

Matthew, As part of the tech committee, I recommend Colin's solution of Community Strings that I have copied in below. This should give everyone the control they need to help their connection until Google completes the upgrade. Jeremy We've had success with the action communities documented here: https://isp.google.com/static/downloads/BGPCommunitySupport.pdf Sending 15169:* to 36040 seems to work, including via route servers. -- Colin Baker SupraNet Communications, Inc. (608) 572-7634 colinb(a)supranet.net From: MICE Discuss [mailto:MICE-DISCUSS@LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET] On Behalf Of Matthew Beckwell Sent: Friday, February 24, 2017 7:48 AM To: MICE-DISCUSS(a)LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET Subject: Re: [MICE-DISCUSS] Youtube issues If it's creating issues for other members, it's time to take action until the 2 new 10G's are in place. What are our options? Remove from the route server? Ask large users to take one for the team and use their own transit for awhile? We need the technical committee to take the lead here. ~Matthew On Thu, Feb 23, 2017 at 11:47 PM, Richard Laager <rlaager(a)wiktel.com> wrote: I would imagine it is related to the Google congestion. We were seeing YouTube buffering yesterday. -- Richard To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1

Feb. 24, 2017

Re: Youtube issues

by Matthew Beckwell

If it's creating issues for other members, it's time to take action until the 2 new 10G's are in place. What are our options? Remove from the route server? Ask large users to take one for the team and use their own transit for awhile? We need the technical committee to take the lead here. ~Matthew On Thu, Feb 23, 2017 at 11:47 PM, Richard Laager <rlaager(a)wiktel.com> wrote: > I would imagine it is related to the Google congestion. We were seeing > YouTube buffering yesterday. > > -- > Richard

Feb. 24, 2017