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Re: New Years Traffic

by Andrew Hoyos

If you take a look some of the others that publicly report bandwidth levels, as an example: https://www.seattleix.net/statistics/ https://www.netnod.se/ix-stats/sums/All.html https://www.torix.ca/traffic-statistics/ https://ix-denver.org/traffic/ http://www.kcix.net/ All seem to be reporting/collecting both in/out, but not stacking them together. I’d agree that the 500gbps seems “double counted”. — Andrew Hoyos hoyosa(a)gmail.com > On Jan 3, 2019, at 3:48 PM, David Farmer <farmer(a)UMN.EDU> wrote: > > I did a Linkedin Post on it > > https://www.linkedin.com/feed/update/urn:li:activity:6486075016726269952 <https://www.linkedin.com/feed/update/urn:li:activity:6486075016726269952> > > It has 67 likes, 7 comments, and just over 3000 views as of right now. > > The main reason I'm mentioning it is some comments about using ingress+egress for traffic level. > > As I think I've said before, we should use one or the other, not the sum of them. > > On Tue, Jan 1, 2019 at 8:35 PM Jeremy Lumby <jlumby(a)mnvoip.com <mailto:jlumby@mnvoip.com>> wrote: > Just wanted to congratulate all MICE members for crossing the 500Gig mark tonight for the first time. > > > -- > =============================================== > David Farmer Email:farmer@umn.edu <mailto:Email%3Afarmer@umn.edu> > Networking & Telecommunication Services > Office of Information Technology > University of Minnesota > 2218 University Ave SE Phone: 612-626-0815 > Minneapolis, MN 55414-3029 Cell: 612-812-9952 > =============================================== > > To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: > http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1 <http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1>

Jan. 3, 2019

Re: New Years Traffic

by David Farmer

I did a Linkedin Post on it https://www.linkedin.com/feed/update/urn:li:activity:6486075016726269952 It has 67 likes, 7 comments, and just over 3000 views as of right now. The main reason I'm mentioning it is some comments about using ingress+egress for traffic level. As I think I've said before, we should use one or the other, not the sum of them. On Tue, Jan 1, 2019 at 8:35 PM Jeremy Lumby <jlumby(a)mnvoip.com> wrote: > Just wanted to congratulate all MICE members for crossing the 500Gig mark > tonight for the first time. > -- =============================================== David Farmer Email:farmer@umn.edu Networking & Telecommunication Services Office of Information Technology University of Minnesota 2218 University Ave SE Phone: 612-626-0815 Minneapolis, MN 55414-3029 Cell: 612-812-9952 ===============================================

Jan. 3, 2019

Re: New Years Traffic

by Reid Fishler

Woohoo! Reid On Tue, Jan 1, 2019, 9:35 PM Jeremy Lumby <jlumby(a)mnvoip.com wrote: > Just wanted to congratulate all MICE members for crossing the 500Gig mark > tonight for the first time. > >

Jan. 2, 2019

New Years Traffic

by Jeremy Lumby

Just wanted to congratulate all MICE members for crossing the 500Gig mark tonight for the first time.

Jan. 2, 2019

Re: ip route objects in MICE

by Justin Krejci

While I find the idea interesting, I am doubtful there will be any ubiquitous technique that every or even most networks will be willing to implement for this purpose, especially since not every prefix is likely to be presented from a single geo; some operators likely have one prefix broken into smaller networks, each of which are in disparate geos while being presented to eBGP/DFZ as an aggregate prefix because, you know, they are trying to be good netizens by being mindful of RIB and FIB limitations. Even if some sort of self-applied geo-tagging of prefixes were defined clearly by some body like IETF or something, it would likely take a tremendous amount of motivation to get operators to actually implement such a thing and then also keep it up to date over time. We can't even get people to do the sensible BCP38 filtering on a large scale and that has pretty significant benefits whereas I, at least at first glance, don't see any noteworthy value of such a geo-tagging mechanism to provoke active implementation by the majority. Maybe something could be embedded in BGP origin validation rpki... like stuff some additional geo bits stuffed into that. This is not a thoroughly thought out idea, just kind of tossing it out there as it is something that is gaining some momentum and sits in the same realm of administratively assessing BGP prefixes. You might consider something fully within your own administrative control like RTT testing to IP addresses on various prefixes to gauge an approximate distance, though I suppose this idea would be severely unreliable due to many variable conditions affecting RTT that have nothing to do with geographic distance. ¯\_(?)_/¯ Best of luck on your search ________________________________ From: MICE Discuss <MICE-DISCUSS(a)LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET> on behalf of Timothy Peiffer <peiffer(a)UMN.EDU> Sent: Friday, December 28, 2018 3:39 PM To: MICE-DISCUSS(a)LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET Subject: [MICE-DISCUSS] ip route objects in MICE I am interested in gathering data for a firewall ruleset that allows more direct usage from networks that are in the metro region of Twin Cities and Duluth, and to a lesser degree communities and surrounding areas for Crookston and Morris. For the participants of MICE, do you have a way of easily presenting your routes by geolocation? I pulled down our route tables for one of our Northern Lights routers connected and matched the base address against max mind geolocate. The result was a list of about 7,000 routes that I thought was unmanageable. Is there a better way, maybe through BGP communities or similar methods, to get more direct relevant info? I want to have a ruleset that permits <ISP x>/minneapolis but denies <ISP x>/atlanta. -- Regards, Tim Peiffer +1 612-626-7884 Network Engineer Office of Information Technology (OIT) University of Minnesota ________________________________ To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1

Dec. 29, 2018

ip route objects in MICE

by Timothy Peiffer

I am interested in gathering data for a firewall ruleset that allows more direct usage from networks that are in the metro region of Twin Cities and Duluth, and to a lesser degree communities and surrounding areas for Crookston and Morris. For the participants of MICE, do you have a way of easily presenting your routes by geolocation? I pulled down our route tables for one of our Northern Lights routers connected and matched the base address against max mind geolocate. The result was a list of about 7,000 routes that I thought was unmanageable. Is there a better way, maybe through BGP communities or similar methods, to get more direct relevant info? I want to have a ruleset that permits <ISP x>/minneapolis but denies <ISP x>/atlanta. -- Regards, Tim Peiffer +1 612-626-7884 Network Engineer Office of Information Technology (OIT) University of Minnesota

Dec. 28, 2018

Re: Amazon issues?

by Frank Bulk

We saw the same thing – I’m sending a note to the technical contact PeeringDB to inquire. Interesting that the graphs didn’t show a dip at those times. Regards, Frank From: MICE Discuss <MICE-DISCUSS(a)LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET> On Behalf Of James Urwiller Sent: Friday, December 21, 2018 10:14 AM To: MICE-DISCUSS(a)LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET Subject: Re: [MICE-DISCUSS] Amazon issues? thats what I was thinking.. my times match. thanks! Sent from my iPhone 7 On Dec 21, 2018, at 10:12, Timothy Peiffer <peiffer(a)UMN.EDU<mailto:peiffer@UMN.EDU>> wrote: Yes, Northern Lights GigaPOP showed bounces around 4:20, 5:50, and 8:55 according to our alerts. I can get more precise reading the logs. -- Regards, Tim Peiffer +1 612-626-7884 Network Engineer Office of Information Technology (OIT) University of Minnesota On Fri, Dec 21, 2018 at 9:12 AM James Urwiller <james.urwiller(a)turnkey-telecom.com<mailto:james.urwiller@turnkey-telecom.com>> wrote: I have seen my peer with Amazon bounce a few times this AM, anyone else? James Urwiller Network Architect Stealth Broadband james.urwiller(a)stealthbroadband.com<mailto:james.urwiller@stealthbroadband.com> <image001.jpg> ________________________________ To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1 -- Regards, Tim Peiffer +1 612-626-7884 Network Engineer Office of Information Technology (OIT) University of Minnesota ________________________________ To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1 ________________________________ To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1

Dec. 21, 2018

Re: Amazon issues?

by Jeff Wilde

I’m surprised amazon answered your peer request. Jeff Wilde IT Manager Park Region Telephone Company P: 218-826-8330 E: jeff.wilde(a)parkregion.com<mailto:jeff.wilde@parkregion.com> From: MICE Discuss <MICE-DISCUSS(a)LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET> On Behalf Of James Urwiller Sent: Friday, December 21, 2018 10:14 AM To: MICE-DISCUSS(a)LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET Subject: Re: [MICE-DISCUSS] Amazon issues? thats what I was thinking.. my times match. thanks! Sent from my iPhone 7 On Dec 21, 2018, at 10:12, Timothy Peiffer <peiffer(a)UMN.EDU<mailto:peiffer@UMN.EDU>> wrote: Yes, Northern Lights GigaPOP showed bounces around 4:20, 5:50, and 8:55 according to our alerts. I can get more precise reading the logs. -- Regards, Tim Peiffer +1 612-626-7884 Network Engineer Office of Information Technology (OIT) University of Minnesota On Fri, Dec 21, 2018 at 9:12 AM James Urwiller <james.urwiller(a)turnkey-telecom.com<mailto:james.urwiller@turnkey-telecom.com>> wrote: I have seen my peer with Amazon bounce a few times this AM, anyone else? James Urwiller Network Architect Stealth Broadband james.urwiller(a)stealthbroadband.com<mailto:james.urwiller@stealthbroadband.com> <image001.jpg> ________________________________ To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1 -- Regards, Tim Peiffer +1 612-626-7884 Network Engineer Office of Information Technology (OIT) University of Minnesota ________________________________ To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1 ________________________________ To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1

Dec. 21, 2018

Re: Amazon issues?

by James Urwiller

thats what I was thinking.. my times match. thanks! Sent from my iPhone 7 > On Dec 21, 2018, at 10:12, Timothy Peiffer <peiffer(a)UMN.EDU> wrote: > > Yes, Northern Lights GigaPOP showed bounces around 4:20, 5:50, and 8:55 according to our alerts. I can get more precise reading the logs. > > > -- > Regards, > > Tim Peiffer > +1 612-626-7884 > Network Engineer > Office of Information Technology (OIT) > University of Minnesota > >> On Fri, Dec 21, 2018 at 9:12 AM James Urwiller <james.urwiller(a)turnkey-telecom.com> wrote: >> I have seen my peer with Amazon bounce a few times this AM, anyone else? >> >> >> >> James Urwiller >> >> Network Architect >> >> Stealth Broadband >> >> james.urwiller(a)stealthbroadband.com >> >> <image001.jpg> >> >> >> >> >> To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: >> http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1 >> > > > -- > Regards, > > Tim Peiffer > +1 612-626-7884 > Network Engineer > Office of Information Technology (OIT) > University of Minnesota > > To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: > http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1

Dec. 21, 2018

Re: Amazon issues?

by Timothy Peiffer

Yes, Northern Lights GigaPOP showed bounces around 4:20, 5:50, and 8:55 according to our alerts. I can get more precise reading the logs. -- Regards, Tim Peiffer +1 612-626-7884 Network Engineer Office of Information Technology (OIT) University of Minnesota On Fri, Dec 21, 2018 at 9:12 AM James Urwiller < james.urwiller(a)turnkey-telecom.com> wrote: > I have seen my peer with Amazon bounce a few times this AM, anyone else? > > > > James Urwiller > > Network Architect > > Stealth Broadband > > james.urwiller(a)stealthbroadband.com > > [image: stealth300] > > > > ------------------------------ > > To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: > http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1 > -- Regards, Tim Peiffer +1 612-626-7884 Network Engineer Office of Information Technology (OIT) University of Minnesota

Dec. 21, 2018

Amazon issues?

by James Urwiller

I have seen my peer with Amazon bounce a few times this AM, anyone else? James Urwiller Network Architect Stealth Broadband james.urwiller(a)stealthbroadband.com [image: stealth300]

Dec. 21, 2018

Re: ADV: [MICE-DISCUSS] Please Welcome Router12 to MICE!

by Doug McIntyre

On Tue, Dec 18, 2018 at 03:05:36PM -0600, Jay Hanke wrote: >Name: Router12 >Port: Ethernet 1 (SFN Albert Lea Remote) 10GE >ASN: 55009 >IPv4: 206.108.255.118/24 >IPv6: 2001:504:27:0:0:d6e1::1/64 >Peering Contact: rmalek(a)router12.net >Route Servers- YES >BFD: NO I've added them into the route-servers. Welcome! -- Doug McIntyre <merlyn(a)iphouse.net> ~.~ ipHouse ~.~ Network Engineer/Provisioning/Jack of all Trades

Dec. 19, 2018

Please Welcome Router12 to MICE!

by Jay Hanke

Name: Router12 Port: Ethernet 1 (SFN Albert Lea Remote) 10GE ASN: 55009 IPv4: 206.108.255.118/24 IPv6: 2001:504:27:0:0:d6e1::1/64 Peering Contact: rmalek(a)router12.net Route Servers- YES BFD: NO Welcome aboard! -- Jay Hanke, President South Front Networks jayhanke(a)southfront.io Phone 612-204-0000

Dec. 18, 2018

Re: WIN/Airstream 10G LAG Augment

by Jeremy Lumby

The switch config is complete From: MICE Discuss [mailto:MICE-DISCUSS@LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET] On Behalf Of Jay Hanke Sent: Tuesday, December 18, 2018 8:09 AM To: MICE-DISCUSS(a)LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET Subject: [MICE-DISCUSS] WIN/Airstream 10G LAG Augment Airstream has been allocated Ethernet5/18 to add to their existing LAG. Please update the switch configuration. The new LAG is 30G. -- Jay Hanke, President South Front Networks jayhanke(a)southfront.io Phone 612-204-0000 To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1

Dec. 18, 2018

WIN/Airstream 10G LAG Augment

by Jay Hanke

Airstream has been allocated Ethernet5/18 to add to their existing LAG. Please update the switch configuration. The new LAG is 30G. -- Jay Hanke, President South Front Networks jayhanke(a)southfront.io Phone 612-204-0000

Dec. 18, 2018

Re: Facebook MICE Connection Active

by Justin Krejci

That is also with some of us establishing PNIs to Facebook too but I concur, it is a great addition!! ________________________________ From: MICE Discuss <MICE-DISCUSS(a)LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET> on behalf of Darin Steffl <darin.steffl(a)MNWIFI.COM> Sent: Monday, December 17, 2018 9:18 AM To: MICE-DISCUSS(a)LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET Subject: Re: [MICE-DISCUSS] Facebook MICE Connection Active 12 days later and Facebook is already peaking at 15.48 Gbps last night. And that's with needing to establish direct peering. I'd say this was a great addition to MICE. On Wed, Dec 5, 2018 at 4:49 PM Jay Hanke <jayhanke(a)southfront.io<mailto:jayhanke@southfront.io>> wrote: The Facebook MICE connections are active. If your network would like to peer with Facebook over MICE please email requests to peering(a)fb.com<mailto:peering@fb.com>. Facebook does NOT connect to the MICE route servers so each network will need to establish their own BGP sessions directly with Facebook. Thanks! -- Jay Hanke, President South Front Networks jayhanke(a)southfront.io<mailto:jayhanke@southfront.io> Phone 612-204-0000 -- Darin Steffl Minnesota WiFi www.mnwifi.com<http://www.mnwifi.com/> 507-634-WiFi [http://www.snoitulosten.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/01/facebook-small.jpg]<http://www.facebook.com/minnesotawifi> Like us on Facebook<http://www.facebook.com/minnesotawifi> ________________________________ To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1

Dec. 17, 2018

Re: Facebook MICE Connection Active

by Darin Steffl

12 days later and Facebook is already peaking at 15.48 Gbps last night. And that's with needing to establish direct peering. I'd say this was a great addition to MICE. On Wed, Dec 5, 2018 at 4:49 PM Jay Hanke <jayhanke(a)southfront.io> wrote: > The Facebook MICE connections are active. If your network would like > to peer with Facebook over MICE please email requests to > peering(a)fb.com. > > Facebook does NOT connect to the MICE route servers so each network > will need to establish their own BGP sessions directly with Facebook. > > Thanks! > > -- > Jay Hanke, President > South Front Networks > jayhanke(a)southfront.io > Phone 612-204-0000 > -- Darin Steffl Minnesota WiFi www.mnwifi.com 507-634-WiFi <http://www.facebook.com/minnesotawifi> Like us on Facebook <http://www.facebook.com/minnesotawifi>

Dec. 17, 2018

Re: Longlines Contact Update

by Richard Laager

On 12/10/18 4:10 PM, Jay Hanke wrote: > Longlines has requested to update the peering contact to > > llarsen(a)longlines.biz Done. -- Richard

Dec. 10, 2018

Longlines Contact Update

by Jay Hanke

Longlines has requested to update the peering contact to llarsen(a)longlines.biz Thanks! -- Jay Hanke, President South Front Networks jayhanke(a)southfront.io Phone 612-204-0000

Dec. 10, 2018

Marco 1g-10G conversion

by Jay Hanke

Marco is moving to a dedicated 10G port on the main switch. The new port is Ethernet5/19. Welcome aboard (again) -- Jay Hanke, President South Front Networks jayhanke(a)southfront.io Phone 612-204-0000

Dec. 10, 2018

Re: Amazon peering

by Darin Steffl

They replied just now that their ETA for peering is now February 2019. I'll set my calendar reminder and see if they can pull it off. On Thu, Dec 6, 2018 at 5:17 PM Jeremy Lumby <jlumby(a)mnvoip.com> wrote: > Sorry for the spam, I miss clicked, and replied to the wrong email > > > > *From:* MICE Discuss [mailto:MICE-DISCUSS@LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET] *On Behalf > Of *Jeremy Lumby > *Sent:* Thursday, December 06, 2018 5:15 PM > *To:* MICE-DISCUSS(a)LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET > *Subject:* Re: [MICE-DISCUSS] Amazon peering > > > > Do you want call waiting off, or just the tone? > > > > *From:* MICE Discuss [mailto:MICE-DISCUSS@LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET] *On Behalf > Of *James Urwiller > *Sent:* Thursday, December 06, 2018 4:30 PM > *To:* MICE-DISCUSS(a)LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET > *Subject:* Re: [MICE-DISCUSS] Amazon peering > > > > Nevermind.. our Amazon peer is up, someone else here must have finished > the turn-up. my bad. > > > > James Urwiller > > Network Architect > > Stealth Broadband > > james.urwiller(a)stealthbroadband.com > > [image: stealth300] > > > > *From:* MICE Discuss <MICE-DISCUSS(a)LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET> *On Behalf Of *Darin > Steffl > *Sent:* Thursday, December 6, 2018 14:47 > *To:* MICE-DISCUSS(a)LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET > *Subject:* [MICE-DISCUSS] Amazon peering > > > > Hello, > > > > We've been trying to peer with Amazon since Dec. 2017 and their most > recent response is that we're still in their provisioning queue after 1 > year. > > > > Does anyone have a contact there I can escalate this to? I've reached out > to the two contacts listed in PeeringDB and that was their response. I find > this unacceptable to be approved to peer with them a year ago but still be > waiting to configure their BGP session, which took me all of 1 minute to > complete on my router. > > > > Any ideas? All other direct peering we've done has been completed within 1 > week like Netflix, Google, Akamai, Cloudflare, etc. > > > > Thank you > > > > > -- > > Darin Steffl > > Minnesota WiFi > > www.mnwifi.com > > 507-634-WiFi > > <http://www.facebook.com/minnesotawifi> Like us on Facebook > <http://www.facebook.com/minnesotawifi> > > > ------------------------------ > > To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: > http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1 > > > ------------------------------ > > To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: > http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1 > > > ------------------------------ > > To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: > http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1 > > ------------------------------ > > To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: > http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1 > -- Darin Steffl Minnesota WiFi www.mnwifi.com 507-634-WiFi <http://www.facebook.com/minnesotawifi> Like us on Facebook <http://www.facebook.com/minnesotawifi>

Dec. 6, 2018

Re: Amazon peering

by Jeremy Lumby

Sorry for the spam, I miss clicked, and replied to the wrong email From: MICE Discuss [mailto:MICE-DISCUSS@LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET] On Behalf Of Jeremy Lumby Sent: Thursday, December 06, 2018 5:15 PM To: MICE-DISCUSS(a)LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET Subject: Re: [MICE-DISCUSS] Amazon peering Do you want call waiting off, or just the tone? From: MICE Discuss [mailto:MICE-DISCUSS@LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET] On Behalf Of James Urwiller Sent: Thursday, December 06, 2018 4:30 PM To: MICE-DISCUSS(a)LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET Subject: Re: [MICE-DISCUSS] Amazon peering Nevermind.. our Amazon peer is up, someone else here must have finished the turn-up. my bad. James Urwiller Network Architect Stealth Broadband james.urwiller(a)stealthbroadband.com From: MICE Discuss <MICE-DISCUSS(a)LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET> On Behalf Of Darin Steffl Sent: Thursday, December 6, 2018 14:47 To: MICE-DISCUSS(a)LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET Subject: [MICE-DISCUSS] Amazon peering Hello, We've been trying to peer with Amazon since Dec. 2017 and their most recent response is that we're still in their provisioning queue after 1 year. Does anyone have a contact there I can escalate this to? I've reached out to the two contacts listed in PeeringDB and that was their response. I find this unacceptable to be approved to peer with them a year ago but still be waiting to configure their BGP session, which took me all of 1 minute to complete on my router. Any ideas? All other direct peering we've done has been completed within 1 week like Netflix, Google, Akamai, Cloudflare, etc. Thank you -- Darin Steffl Minnesota WiFi www.mnwifi.com 507-634-WiFi Like us on Facebook To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1 To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1 To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1

Dec. 6, 2018

Re: Amazon peering

by Jeremy Lumby

Do you want call waiting off, or just the tone? From: MICE Discuss [mailto:MICE-DISCUSS@LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET] On Behalf Of James Urwiller Sent: Thursday, December 06, 2018 4:30 PM To: MICE-DISCUSS(a)LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET Subject: Re: [MICE-DISCUSS] Amazon peering Nevermind.. our Amazon peer is up, someone else here must have finished the turn-up. my bad. James Urwiller Network Architect Stealth Broadband james.urwiller(a)stealthbroadband.com From: MICE Discuss <MICE-DISCUSS(a)LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET> On Behalf Of Darin Steffl Sent: Thursday, December 6, 2018 14:47 To: MICE-DISCUSS(a)LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET Subject: [MICE-DISCUSS] Amazon peering Hello, We've been trying to peer with Amazon since Dec. 2017 and their most recent response is that we're still in their provisioning queue after 1 year. Does anyone have a contact there I can escalate this to? I've reached out to the two contacts listed in PeeringDB and that was their response. I find this unacceptable to be approved to peer with them a year ago but still be waiting to configure their BGP session, which took me all of 1 minute to complete on my router. Any ideas? All other direct peering we've done has been completed within 1 week like Netflix, Google, Akamai, Cloudflare, etc. Thank you -- Darin Steffl Minnesota WiFi www.mnwifi.com 507-634-WiFi Like us on Facebook To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1 To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1

Dec. 6, 2018

Re: Amazon peering

by Darin Steffl

Thanks guys. I'll update if/when this gets completed and which Amazon contact was the one that got it done for us. On Thu, Dec 6, 2018 at 4:53 PM Phil Sampson <phil(a)sampso.net> wrote: > ragmuc(a)amazon.com and Kadaru(a)amazon.com are the email addresses that have > finished peering for me in the past. > > On Thu, Dec 6, 2018 at 4:33 PM Darin Steffl <darin.steffl(a)mnwifi.com> > wrote: > >> Find who finished it and tell me the secret James ;) >> >> I'll keep emailing Amazon contacts until they're so annoyed they have to >> turn it up. >> >> On Thu, Dec 6, 2018 at 4:30 PM James Urwiller < >> james.urwiller(a)turnkey-telecom.com> wrote: >> >>> Nevermind.. our Amazon peer is up, someone else here must have finished >>> the turn-up. my bad. >>> >>> >>> >>> James Urwiller >>> >>> Network Architect >>> >>> Stealth Broadband >>> >>> james.urwiller(a)stealthbroadband.com >>> >>> [image: stealth300] >>> >>> >>> >>> *From:* MICE Discuss <MICE-DISCUSS(a)LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET> *On Behalf Of *Darin >>> Steffl >>> *Sent:* Thursday, December 6, 2018 14:47 >>> *To:* MICE-DISCUSS(a)LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET >>> *Subject:* [MICE-DISCUSS] Amazon peering >>> >>> >>> >>> Hello, >>> >>> >>> >>> We've been trying to peer with Amazon since Dec. 2017 and their most >>> recent response is that we're still in their provisioning queue after 1 >>> year. >>> >>> >>> >>> Does anyone have a contact there I can escalate this to? I've reached >>> out to the two contacts listed in PeeringDB and that was their response. I >>> find this unacceptable to be approved to peer with them a year ago but >>> still be waiting to configure their BGP session, which took me all of 1 >>> minute to complete on my router. >>> >>> >>> >>> Any ideas? All other direct peering we've done has been completed within >>> 1 week like Netflix, Google, Akamai, Cloudflare, etc. >>> >>> >>> >>> Thank you >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> >>> Darin Steffl >>> >>> Minnesota WiFi >>> >>> www.mnwifi.com >>> >>> 507-634-WiFi >>> >>> <http://www.facebook.com/minnesotawifi> Like us on Facebook >>> <http://www.facebook.com/minnesotawifi> >>> >>> >>> ------------------------------ >>> >>> To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: >>> http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1 >>> >>> ------------------------------ >>> >>> To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: >>> http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1 >>> >> >> >> -- >> Darin Steffl >> Minnesota WiFi >> www.mnwifi.com >> 507-634-WiFi >> <http://www.facebook.com/minnesotawifi> Like us on Facebook >> <http://www.facebook.com/minnesotawifi> >> >> ------------------------------ >> >> To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: >> http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1 >> > > ------------------------------ > > To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: > http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1 > -- Darin Steffl Minnesota WiFi www.mnwifi.com 507-634-WiFi <http://www.facebook.com/minnesotawifi> Like us on Facebook <http://www.facebook.com/minnesotawifi>

Dec. 6, 2018

Re: Amazon peering

by James Urwiller

Looks like after my initial email to them, a “Raghavendra Mucherla” ( ragmuc(a)amazon.com) replied to our NOC saying it was ready and one of my guys just enabled the session. In my initial email I gave them my MICE IP, my ASN, and the prefix’s I was to announce. Looks like it took about 2 months in total. Hope this helps. James Urwiller Network Architect Stealth Broadband james.urwiller(a)stealthbroadband.com [image: stealth300] *From:* MICE Discuss <MICE-DISCUSS(a)LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET> *On Behalf Of *Darin Steffl *Sent:* Thursday, December 6, 2018 16:33 *To:* MICE-DISCUSS(a)LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET *Subject:* Re: [MICE-DISCUSS] Amazon peering Find who finished it and tell me the secret James ;) I'll keep emailing Amazon contacts until they're so annoyed they have to turn it up. On Thu, Dec 6, 2018 at 4:30 PM James Urwiller < james.urwiller(a)turnkey-telecom.com> wrote: Nevermind.. our Amazon peer is up, someone else here must have finished the turn-up. my bad. James Urwiller Network Architect Stealth Broadband james.urwiller(a)stealthbroadband.com [image: stealth300] *From:* MICE Discuss <MICE-DISCUSS(a)LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET> *On Behalf Of *Darin Steffl *Sent:* Thursday, December 6, 2018 14:47 *To:* MICE-DISCUSS(a)LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET *Subject:* [MICE-DISCUSS] Amazon peering Hello, We've been trying to peer with Amazon since Dec. 2017 and their most recent response is that we're still in their provisioning queue after 1 year. Does anyone have a contact there I can escalate this to? I've reached out to the two contacts listed in PeeringDB and that was their response. I find this unacceptable to be approved to peer with them a year ago but still be waiting to configure their BGP session, which took me all of 1 minute to complete on my router. Any ideas? All other direct peering we've done has been completed within 1 week like Netflix, Google, Akamai, Cloudflare, etc. Thank you -- Darin Steffl Minnesota WiFi www.mnwifi.com 507-634-WiFi <http://www.facebook.com/minnesotawifi> Like us on Facebook <http://www.facebook.com/minnesotawifi> ------------------------------ To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1 ------------------------------ To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1 -- Darin Steffl Minnesota WiFi www.mnwifi.com 507-634-WiFi <http://www.facebook.com/minnesotawifi> Like us on Facebook <http://www.facebook.com/minnesotawifi> ------------------------------ To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1

Dec. 6, 2018

Re: Amazon peering

by Phil Sampson

ragmuc(a)amazon.com and Kadaru(a)amazon.com are the email addresses that have finished peering for me in the past. On Thu, Dec 6, 2018 at 4:33 PM Darin Steffl <darin.steffl(a)mnwifi.com> wrote: > Find who finished it and tell me the secret James ;) > > I'll keep emailing Amazon contacts until they're so annoyed they have to > turn it up. > > On Thu, Dec 6, 2018 at 4:30 PM James Urwiller < > james.urwiller(a)turnkey-telecom.com> wrote: > >> Nevermind.. our Amazon peer is up, someone else here must have finished >> the turn-up. my bad. >> >> >> >> James Urwiller >> >> Network Architect >> >> Stealth Broadband >> >> james.urwiller(a)stealthbroadband.com >> >> [image: stealth300] >> >> >> >> *From:* MICE Discuss <MICE-DISCUSS(a)LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET> *On Behalf Of *Darin >> Steffl >> *Sent:* Thursday, December 6, 2018 14:47 >> *To:* MICE-DISCUSS(a)LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET >> *Subject:* [MICE-DISCUSS] Amazon peering >> >> >> >> Hello, >> >> >> >> We've been trying to peer with Amazon since Dec. 2017 and their most >> recent response is that we're still in their provisioning queue after 1 >> year. >> >> >> >> Does anyone have a contact there I can escalate this to? I've reached out >> to the two contacts listed in PeeringDB and that was their response. I find >> this unacceptable to be approved to peer with them a year ago but still be >> waiting to configure their BGP session, which took me all of 1 minute to >> complete on my router. >> >> >> >> Any ideas? All other direct peering we've done has been completed within >> 1 week like Netflix, Google, Akamai, Cloudflare, etc. >> >> >> >> Thank you >> >> >> >> >> -- >> >> Darin Steffl >> >> Minnesota WiFi >> >> www.mnwifi.com >> >> 507-634-WiFi >> >> <http://www.facebook.com/minnesotawifi> Like us on Facebook >> <http://www.facebook.com/minnesotawifi> >> >> >> ------------------------------ >> >> To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: >> http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1 >> >> ------------------------------ >> >> To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: >> http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1 >> > > > -- > Darin Steffl > Minnesota WiFi > www.mnwifi.com > 507-634-WiFi > <http://www.facebook.com/minnesotawifi> Like us on Facebook > <http://www.facebook.com/minnesotawifi> > > ------------------------------ > > To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: > http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1 >

Dec. 6, 2018

Re: Amazon peering

by Darin Steffl

Find who finished it and tell me the secret James ;) I'll keep emailing Amazon contacts until they're so annoyed they have to turn it up. On Thu, Dec 6, 2018 at 4:30 PM James Urwiller < james.urwiller(a)turnkey-telecom.com> wrote: > Nevermind.. our Amazon peer is up, someone else here must have finished > the turn-up. my bad. > > > > James Urwiller > > Network Architect > > Stealth Broadband > > james.urwiller(a)stealthbroadband.com > > [image: stealth300] > > > > *From:* MICE Discuss <MICE-DISCUSS(a)LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET> *On Behalf Of *Darin > Steffl > *Sent:* Thursday, December 6, 2018 14:47 > *To:* MICE-DISCUSS(a)LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET > *Subject:* [MICE-DISCUSS] Amazon peering > > > > Hello, > > > > We've been trying to peer with Amazon since Dec. 2017 and their most > recent response is that we're still in their provisioning queue after 1 > year. > > > > Does anyone have a contact there I can escalate this to? I've reached out > to the two contacts listed in PeeringDB and that was their response. I find > this unacceptable to be approved to peer with them a year ago but still be > waiting to configure their BGP session, which took me all of 1 minute to > complete on my router. > > > > Any ideas? All other direct peering we've done has been completed within 1 > week like Netflix, Google, Akamai, Cloudflare, etc. > > > > Thank you > > > > > -- > > Darin Steffl > > Minnesota WiFi > > www.mnwifi.com > > 507-634-WiFi > > <http://www.facebook.com/minnesotawifi> Like us on Facebook > <http://www.facebook.com/minnesotawifi> > > > ------------------------------ > > To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: > http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1 > > ------------------------------ > > To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: > http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1 > -- Darin Steffl Minnesota WiFi www.mnwifi.com 507-634-WiFi <http://www.facebook.com/minnesotawifi> Like us on Facebook <http://www.facebook.com/minnesotawifi>

Dec. 6, 2018

Re: Amazon peering

by James Urwiller

Nevermind.. our Amazon peer is up, someone else here must have finished the turn-up. my bad. James Urwiller Network Architect Stealth Broadband james.urwiller(a)stealthbroadband.com [image: stealth300] *From:* MICE Discuss <MICE-DISCUSS(a)LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET> *On Behalf Of *Darin Steffl *Sent:* Thursday, December 6, 2018 14:47 *To:* MICE-DISCUSS(a)LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET *Subject:* [MICE-DISCUSS] Amazon peering Hello, We've been trying to peer with Amazon since Dec. 2017 and their most recent response is that we're still in their provisioning queue after 1 year. Does anyone have a contact there I can escalate this to? I've reached out to the two contacts listed in PeeringDB and that was their response. I find this unacceptable to be approved to peer with them a year ago but still be waiting to configure their BGP session, which took me all of 1 minute to complete on my router. Any ideas? All other direct peering we've done has been completed within 1 week like Netflix, Google, Akamai, Cloudflare, etc. Thank you -- Darin Steffl Minnesota WiFi www.mnwifi.com 507-634-WiFi <http://www.facebook.com/minnesotawifi> Like us on Facebook <http://www.facebook.com/minnesotawifi> ------------------------------ To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1

Dec. 6, 2018

Re: Amazon peering

by Darin Steffl

Being that Amazon is not on the route servers and they're still moving almost 18 Gbps at peak, there are definitely other members who are peered with them. They must have peered with them before Amazon's peering team went dark. On Thu, Dec 6, 2018 at 3:05 PM James Urwiller < james.urwiller(a)turnkey-telecom.com> wrote: > Same.. I in fact never got a response to my peering request, also over a > year ago. > > > > James Urwiller > > Network Architect > > Stealth Broadband > > james.urwiller(a)stealthbroadband.com > > [image: stealth300] > > > > *From:* MICE Discuss <MICE-DISCUSS(a)LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET> *On Behalf Of *Darin > Steffl > *Sent:* Thursday, December 6, 2018 14:47 > *To:* MICE-DISCUSS(a)LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET > *Subject:* [MICE-DISCUSS] Amazon peering > > > > Hello, > > > > We've been trying to peer with Amazon since Dec. 2017 and their most > recent response is that we're still in their provisioning queue after 1 > year. > > > > Does anyone have a contact there I can escalate this to? I've reached out > to the two contacts listed in PeeringDB and that was their response. I find > this unacceptable to be approved to peer with them a year ago but still be > waiting to configure their BGP session, which took me all of 1 minute to > complete on my router. > > > > Any ideas? All other direct peering we've done has been completed within 1 > week like Netflix, Google, Akamai, Cloudflare, etc. > > > > Thank you > > > > > -- > > Darin Steffl > > Minnesota WiFi > > www.mnwifi.com > > 507-634-WiFi > > <http://www.facebook.com/minnesotawifi> Like us on Facebook > <http://www.facebook.com/minnesotawifi> > > > ------------------------------ > > To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: > http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1 > > ------------------------------ > > To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: > http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1 > -- Darin Steffl Minnesota WiFi www.mnwifi.com 507-634-WiFi <http://www.facebook.com/minnesotawifi> Like us on Facebook <http://www.facebook.com/minnesotawifi>

Dec. 6, 2018

Re: Amazon peering

by Jeff Wilde

I second that. From: MICE Discuss <MICE-DISCUSS(a)LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET> On Behalf Of James Urwiller Sent: Thursday, December 6, 2018 2:55 PM To: MICE-DISCUSS(a)LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET Subject: Re: [MICE-DISCUSS] Amazon peering Same.. I in fact never got a response to my peering request, also over a year ago. James Urwiller Network Architect Stealth Broadband james.urwiller(a)stealthbroadband.com<mailto:james.urwiller@stealthbroadband.com> [stealth300] From: MICE Discuss <MICE-DISCUSS(a)LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET<mailto:MICE-DISCUSS@LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET>> On Behalf Of Darin Steffl Sent: Thursday, December 6, 2018 14:47 To: MICE-DISCUSS(a)LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET<mailto:MICE-DISCUSS@LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET> Subject: [MICE-DISCUSS] Amazon peering Hello, We've been trying to peer with Amazon since Dec. 2017 and their most recent response is that we're still in their provisioning queue after 1 year. Does anyone have a contact there I can escalate this to? I've reached out to the two contacts listed in PeeringDB and that was their response. I find this unacceptable to be approved to peer with them a year ago but still be waiting to configure their BGP session, which took me all of 1 minute to complete on my router. Any ideas? All other direct peering we've done has been completed within 1 week like Netflix, Google, Akamai, Cloudflare, etc. Thank you -- Darin Steffl Minnesota WiFi www.mnwifi.com<http://www.mnwifi.com/> 507-634-WiFi [http://www.snoitulosten.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/01/facebook-small.jpg]<http://www.facebook.com/minnesotawifi> Like us on Facebook<http://www.facebook.com/minnesotawifi> ________________________________ To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1 ________________________________ To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1

Dec. 6, 2018

Re: Amazon peering

by James Urwiller

Same.. I in fact never got a response to my peering request, also over a year ago. James Urwiller Network Architect Stealth Broadband james.urwiller(a)stealthbroadband.com [image: stealth300] *From:* MICE Discuss <MICE-DISCUSS(a)LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET> *On Behalf Of *Darin Steffl *Sent:* Thursday, December 6, 2018 14:47 *To:* MICE-DISCUSS(a)LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET *Subject:* [MICE-DISCUSS] Amazon peering Hello, We've been trying to peer with Amazon since Dec. 2017 and their most recent response is that we're still in their provisioning queue after 1 year. Does anyone have a contact there I can escalate this to? I've reached out to the two contacts listed in PeeringDB and that was their response. I find this unacceptable to be approved to peer with them a year ago but still be waiting to configure their BGP session, which took me all of 1 minute to complete on my router. Any ideas? All other direct peering we've done has been completed within 1 week like Netflix, Google, Akamai, Cloudflare, etc. Thank you -- Darin Steffl Minnesota WiFi www.mnwifi.com 507-634-WiFi <http://www.facebook.com/minnesotawifi> Like us on Facebook <http://www.facebook.com/minnesotawifi> ------------------------------ To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1

Dec. 6, 2018

Amazon peering

by Darin Steffl

Hello, We've been trying to peer with Amazon since Dec. 2017 and their most recent response is that we're still in their provisioning queue after 1 year. Does anyone have a contact there I can escalate this to? I've reached out to the two contacts listed in PeeringDB and that was their response. I find this unacceptable to be approved to peer with them a year ago but still be waiting to configure their BGP session, which took me all of 1 minute to complete on my router. Any ideas? All other direct peering we've done has been completed within 1 week like Netflix, Google, Akamai, Cloudflare, etc. Thank you -- Darin Steffl Minnesota WiFi www.mnwifi.com 507-634-WiFi <http://www.facebook.com/minnesotawifi> Like us on Facebook <http://www.facebook.com/minnesotawifi>

Dec. 6, 2018

Facebook MICE Connection Active

by Jay Hanke

The Facebook MICE connections are active. If your network would like to peer with Facebook over MICE please email requests to peering(a)fb.com. Facebook does NOT connect to the MICE route servers so each network will need to establish their own BGP sessions directly with Facebook. Thanks! -- Jay Hanke, President South Front Networks jayhanke(a)southfront.io Phone 612-204-0000

Dec. 5, 2018

Re: Please Welcome Fibernet Communications to MICE!

by Richard Laager

On 11/25/18 2:05 PM, Jay Hanke wrote: > Name: Fibernet Communications > ASN: 18883 > Port: Zayo Remote Switch (Premier Port) > IPv4: 206.108.255.133 /24 > IPv6: 2001:504:27:0:0:49c3::1 /64 > Peering Contact: peering(a)fibernetcommunications.net > > Route Server: YES > BFD Support NO I've updated the website. It seems Fibernet has no website. -- Richard

Nov. 27, 2018

Re: ADV: [MICE-DISCUSS] Please Welcome Fibernet Communications to MICE!

by Doug McIntyre

On Sun, Nov 25, 2018 at 02:05:46PM -0600, Jay Hanke wrote: >Name: Fibernet Communications >ASN: 18883 >Port: Zayo Remote Switch (Premier Port) >IPv4: 206.108.255.133 /24 >IPv6: 2001:504:27:0:0:49c3::1 /64 >Peering Contact: peering(a)fibernetcommunications.net > >Route Server: YES >BFD Support NO > I've added them to the route servers. Welcome! -- Doug McIntyre <merlyn(a)iphouse.net> ~.~ ipHouse ~.~ Network Engineer/Provisioning/Jack of all Trades

Nov. 26, 2018

Re: Four BGP sessions drops with Google/YouTube (AS36040) today

by Frank Bulk

I had a little bit more dialogue with GGC support over the weekend and they were able to resolve the issue Sunday evening. They saw LACP issues from their cache(s) to their 10G/100G switch, but they didn’t initially realize that it was their switch. Jeremy provided me the necessary info to point GGC support in the right direction and just after 8 pm Central they updated me that they’ve resolved the issue, though they said they do not have full root cause for it, yet. Graph looks solid for the last 3+ hours. Frank From: MICE Discuss <MICE-DISCUSS(a)LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET> On Behalf Of Frank Bulk Sent: Saturday, November 24, 2018 9:54 PM To: MICE-DISCUSS(a)LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET Subject: Re: [MICE-DISCUSS] Four BGP sessions drops with Google/YouTube (AS36040) today Thanks – today’s graphs didn’t look so good today, either. Frank From: MICE Discuss <MICE-DISCUSS(a)LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET<mailto:MICE-DISCUSS@LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET>> On Behalf Of Jeremy Lumby Sent: Saturday, November 24, 2018 3:19 PM To: MICE-DISCUSS(a)LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET<mailto:MICE-DISCUSS@LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET> Subject: Re: [MICE-DISCUSS] Four BGP sessions drops with Google/YouTube (AS36040) today Google only has a single 100G link to MICE, and it has been up for a month. They did not originally support 100G so I believe they added a switch just to convert their existing 10X10G into a single 100G This is however their equipment, and MICE has no visibility into it. Ethernet3/2/1 is up, line protocol is up (connected) Hardware is Ethernet, address is 2899.3a54.4fdc (bia 2899.3a54.4fdc) Description: 36040 - Google Ethernet MTU 9214 bytes , BW 100000000 kbit Full-duplex, 100Gb/s, auto negotiation: off, uni-link: n/a Up 31 days, 2 hours, 55 minutes, 9 seconds Loopback Mode : None 3 link status changes since last clear Last clearing of "show interface" counters never 5 minutes input rate 41.9 Gbps (42.5% with framing overhead), 3606486 packets/sec 5 minutes output rate 1.99 Gbps (2.1% with framing overhead), 957337 packets/sec 101767257001795 packets input, 147833598676116893 bytes Received 1446585 broadcasts, 7171769 multicast 0 runts, 0 giants 0 input errors, 0 CRC, 0 alignment, 0 symbol, 0 input discards 0 PAUSE input 29025844160305 packets output, 6218148508474554 bytes Sent 655350278 broadcasts, 1990085124 multicast 0 output errors, 0 collisions 0 late collision, 0 deferred, 1 output discards 0 PAUSE output From: MICE Discuss [mailto:MICE-DISCUSS@LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET] On Behalf Of Frank Bulk Sent: Saturday, November 24, 2018 2:43 PM To: MICE-DISCUSS(a)LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET<mailto:MICE-DISCUSS@LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET> Subject: Re: [MICE-DISCUSS] Four BGP sessions drops with Google/YouTube (AS36040) today GGC shared this with me: The BGP session and aggregated interfaces seems stable now, however earlier, we've seen all interfaces on the path to 206.108.255.4 flap. We'll re-check it after some time to verify that this is no longer happening. Any log entries on the IX’s switch that give a hint as to why the links are dropping? Frank From: MICE Discuss <MICE-DISCUSS(a)LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET<mailto:MICE-DISCUSS@LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET>> On Behalf Of Jeremy Lumby Sent: Friday, November 23, 2018 11:31 PM To: MICE-DISCUSS(a)LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET<mailto:MICE-DISCUSS@LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET> Subject: Re: [MICE-DISCUSS] Four BGP sessions drops with Google/YouTube (AS36040) today In general you can get a little better granular control of your session if you are bilaterally peered since not all IX route servers support communities, and have different security features supported/enabled. Not all implementations of communities are as detailed as you can get bilaterally. There is also one less point of failure when not using routeservers. From: MICE Discuss [mailto:MICE-DISCUSS@LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET] On Behalf Of Darin Steffl Sent: Friday, November 23, 2018 9:59 PM To: MICE-DISCUSS(a)LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET<mailto:MICE-DISCUSS@LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET> Subject: Re: [MICE-DISCUSS] Four BGP sessions drops with Google/YouTube (AS36040) today Ok I know that Google is on the route servers so is there any advantage to establishing a direct peering session with them? Their peering site says the following: Although Google connects to Internet Exchange route servers where present, Google prefers to establish direct BGP sessions for traffic exchange. On Fri, Nov 23, 2018 at 8:59 PM Jeremy Lumby <jlumby(a)mnvoip.com<mailto:jlumby@mnvoip.com>> wrote: MICE only has a cache, and the other IXes have full backbone routes. From: MICE Discuss [mailto:MICE-DISCUSS@LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET<mailto:MICE-DISCUSS@LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET>] On Behalf Of Darin Steffl Sent: Friday, November 23, 2018 8:56 PM To: MICE-DISCUSS(a)LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET<mailto:MICE-DISCUSS@LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET> Subject: Re: [MICE-DISCUSS] Four BGP sessions drops with Google/YouTube (AS36040) today Sorry to go off topic a little but why isn't Google advertising their main AS 15169 on MICE? Their website shows Minneapolis being one of their Edge POPs but they're using their less common AS 36040 here. Anyone know why we're not as cool as the other IX's they're on with 15169? On Fri, Nov 23, 2018 at 8:21 PM Jeremy Lumby <jlumby(a)mnvoip.com<mailto:jlumby@mnvoip.com>> wrote: I have noticed that Google has had me redirected to their cache on The Kansas City Internet Exchange most of the day. 2602:ffaa:0:7:8d5:1b2c:f084:513c => google-mci2 : superx_isp_number: 3 (2602:ffaa::/36) From: MICE Discuss [mailto:MICE-DISCUSS@LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET<mailto:MICE-DISCUSS@LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET>] On Behalf Of Frank Bulk Sent: Friday, November 23, 2018 8:14 PM To: MICE-DISCUSS(a)LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET<mailto:MICE-DISCUSS@LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET> Subject: [MICE-DISCUSS] Four BGP sessions drops with Google/YouTube (AS36040) today FYI, we saw our BGP session drop with AS36040 several times today: * 12:08:46 to 12:08:51 pm * 2:01 to 2:02 pm * ~4:02 to ~4:04 pm * ~7:36 to ~7:38 pm Graphs show some serious stability issues: Error! Filename not specified. 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Nov. 26, 2018

Please Welcome Fibernet Communications to MICE!

by Jay Hanke

Name: Fibernet Communications ASN: 18883 Port: Zayo Remote Switch (Premier Port) IPv4: 206.108.255.133 /24 IPv6: 2001:504:27:0:0:49c3::1 /64 Peering Contact: peering(a)fibernetcommunications.net Route Server: YES BFD Support NO Welcome Aboard! -- Jay Hanke, President South Front Networks jayhanke(a)southfront.io Phone 612-204-0000

Nov. 25, 2018

Re: Four BGP sessions drops with Google/YouTube (AS36040) today

by Frank Bulk

Thanks – today’s graphs didn’t look so good today, either. Frank From: MICE Discuss <MICE-DISCUSS(a)LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET> On Behalf Of Jeremy Lumby Sent: Saturday, November 24, 2018 3:19 PM To: MICE-DISCUSS(a)LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET Subject: Re: [MICE-DISCUSS] Four BGP sessions drops with Google/YouTube (AS36040) today Google only has a single 100G link to MICE, and it has been up for a month. They did not originally support 100G so I believe they added a switch just to convert their existing 10X10G into a single 100G This is however their equipment, and MICE has no visibility into it. Ethernet3/2/1 is up, line protocol is up (connected) Hardware is Ethernet, address is 2899.3a54.4fdc (bia 2899.3a54.4fdc) Description: 36040 - Google Ethernet MTU 9214 bytes , BW 100000000 kbit Full-duplex, 100Gb/s, auto negotiation: off, uni-link: n/a Up 31 days, 2 hours, 55 minutes, 9 seconds Loopback Mode : None 3 link status changes since last clear Last clearing of "show interface" counters never 5 minutes input rate 41.9 Gbps (42.5% with framing overhead), 3606486 packets/sec 5 minutes output rate 1.99 Gbps (2.1% with framing overhead), 957337 packets/sec 101767257001795 packets input, 147833598676116893 bytes Received 1446585 broadcasts, 7171769 multicast 0 runts, 0 giants 0 input errors, 0 CRC, 0 alignment, 0 symbol, 0 input discards 0 PAUSE input 29025844160305 packets output, 6218148508474554 bytes Sent 655350278 broadcasts, 1990085124 multicast 0 output errors, 0 collisions 0 late collision, 0 deferred, 1 output discards 0 PAUSE output From: MICE Discuss [mailto:MICE-DISCUSS@LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET] On Behalf Of Frank Bulk Sent: Saturday, November 24, 2018 2:43 PM To: MICE-DISCUSS(a)LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET<mailto:MICE-DISCUSS@LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET> Subject: Re: [MICE-DISCUSS] Four BGP sessions drops with Google/YouTube (AS36040) today GGC shared this with me: The BGP session and aggregated interfaces seems stable now, however earlier, we've seen all interfaces on the path to 206.108.255.4 flap. We'll re-check it after some time to verify that this is no longer happening. Any log entries on the IX’s switch that give a hint as to why the links are dropping? Frank From: MICE Discuss <MICE-DISCUSS(a)LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET<mailto:MICE-DISCUSS@LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET>> On Behalf Of Jeremy Lumby Sent: Friday, November 23, 2018 11:31 PM To: MICE-DISCUSS(a)LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET<mailto:MICE-DISCUSS@LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET> Subject: Re: [MICE-DISCUSS] Four BGP sessions drops with Google/YouTube (AS36040) today In general you can get a little better granular control of your session if you are bilaterally peered since not all IX route servers support communities, and have different security features supported/enabled. Not all implementations of communities are as detailed as you can get bilaterally. There is also one less point of failure when not using routeservers. From: MICE Discuss [mailto:MICE-DISCUSS@LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET] On Behalf Of Darin Steffl Sent: Friday, November 23, 2018 9:59 PM To: MICE-DISCUSS(a)LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET<mailto:MICE-DISCUSS@LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET> Subject: Re: [MICE-DISCUSS] Four BGP sessions drops with Google/YouTube (AS36040) today Ok I know that Google is on the route servers so is there any advantage to establishing a direct peering session with them? Their peering site says the following: Although Google connects to Internet Exchange route servers where present, Google prefers to establish direct BGP sessions for traffic exchange. On Fri, Nov 23, 2018 at 8:59 PM Jeremy Lumby <jlumby(a)mnvoip.com<mailto:jlumby@mnvoip.com>> wrote: MICE only has a cache, and the other IXes have full backbone routes. From: MICE Discuss [mailto:MICE-DISCUSS@LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET<mailto:MICE-DISCUSS@LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET>] On Behalf Of Darin Steffl Sent: Friday, November 23, 2018 8:56 PM To: MICE-DISCUSS(a)LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET<mailto:MICE-DISCUSS@LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET> Subject: Re: [MICE-DISCUSS] Four BGP sessions drops with Google/YouTube (AS36040) today Sorry to go off topic a little but why isn't Google advertising their main AS 15169 on MICE? Their website shows Minneapolis being one of their Edge POPs but they're using their less common AS 36040 here. Anyone know why we're not as cool as the other IX's they're on with 15169? On Fri, Nov 23, 2018 at 8:21 PM Jeremy Lumby <jlumby(a)mnvoip.com<mailto:jlumby@mnvoip.com>> wrote: I have noticed that Google has had me redirected to their cache on The Kansas City Internet Exchange most of the day. 2602:ffaa:0:7:8d5:1b2c:f084:513c => google-mci2 : superx_isp_number: 3 (2602:ffaa::/36) From: MICE Discuss [mailto:MICE-DISCUSS@LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET<mailto:MICE-DISCUSS@LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET>] On Behalf Of Frank Bulk Sent: Friday, November 23, 2018 8:14 PM To: MICE-DISCUSS(a)LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET<mailto:MICE-DISCUSS@LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET> Subject: [MICE-DISCUSS] Four BGP sessions drops with Google/YouTube (AS36040) today FYI, we saw our BGP session drop with AS36040 several times today: * 12:08:46 to 12:08:51 pm * 2:01 to 2:02 pm * ~4:02 to ~4:04 pm * ~7:36 to ~7:38 pm Graphs show some serious stability issues: Error! Filename not specified. Regards, Frank ________________________________ To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1 ________________________________ To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1 -- Darin Steffl Minnesota WiFi www.mnwifi.com<http://www.mnwifi.com/> 507-634-WiFi [http://www.snoitulosten.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/01/facebook-small.jpg]<http://www.facebook.com/minnesotawifi> Like us on Facebook<http://www.facebook.com/minnesotawifi> ________________________________ To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1 ________________________________ To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1 -- Darin Steffl Minnesota WiFi www.mnwifi.com<http://www.mnwifi.com/> 507-634-WiFi [http://www.snoitulosten.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/01/facebook-small.jpg]<http://www.facebook.com/minnesotawifi> Like us on Facebook<http://www.facebook.com/minnesotawifi> ________________________________ To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1 ________________________________ To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1 ________________________________ To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1 ________________________________ To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1

Nov. 25, 2018

Re: Four BGP sessions drops with Google/YouTube (AS36040) today

by Jeremy Lumby

Google only has a single 100G link to MICE, and it has been up for a month. They did not originally support 100G so I believe they added a switch just to convert their existing 10X10G into a single 100G This is however their equipment, and MICE has no visibility into it. Ethernet3/2/1 is up, line protocol is up (connected) Hardware is Ethernet, address is 2899.3a54.4fdc (bia 2899.3a54.4fdc) Description: 36040 - Google Ethernet MTU 9214 bytes , BW 100000000 kbit Full-duplex, 100Gb/s, auto negotiation: off, uni-link: n/a Up 31 days, 2 hours, 55 minutes, 9 seconds Loopback Mode : None 3 link status changes since last clear Last clearing of "show interface" counters never 5 minutes input rate 41.9 Gbps (42.5% with framing overhead), 3606486 packets/sec 5 minutes output rate 1.99 Gbps (2.1% with framing overhead), 957337 packets/sec 101767257001795 packets input, 147833598676116893 bytes Received 1446585 broadcasts, 7171769 multicast 0 runts, 0 giants 0 input errors, 0 CRC, 0 alignment, 0 symbol, 0 input discards 0 PAUSE input 29025844160305 packets output, 6218148508474554 bytes Sent 655350278 broadcasts, 1990085124 multicast 0 output errors, 0 collisions 0 late collision, 0 deferred, 1 output discards 0 PAUSE output From: MICE Discuss [mailto:MICE-DISCUSS@LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET] On Behalf Of Frank Bulk Sent: Saturday, November 24, 2018 2:43 PM To: MICE-DISCUSS(a)LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET Subject: Re: [MICE-DISCUSS] Four BGP sessions drops with Google/YouTube (AS36040) today GGC shared this with me: The BGP session and aggregated interfaces seems stable now, however earlier, we've seen all interfaces on the path to 206.108.255.4 flap. We'll re-check it after some time to verify that this is no longer happening. Any log entries on the IX’s switch that give a hint as to why the links are dropping? Frank From: MICE Discuss <MICE-DISCUSS(a)LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET> On Behalf Of Jeremy Lumby Sent: Friday, November 23, 2018 11:31 PM To: MICE-DISCUSS(a)LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET Subject: Re: [MICE-DISCUSS] Four BGP sessions drops with Google/YouTube (AS36040) today In general you can get a little better granular control of your session if you are bilaterally peered since not all IX route servers support communities, and have different security features supported/enabled. Not all implementations of communities are as detailed as you can get bilaterally. There is also one less point of failure when not using routeservers. From: MICE Discuss [mailto:MICE-DISCUSS@LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET] On Behalf Of Darin Steffl Sent: Friday, November 23, 2018 9:59 PM To: MICE-DISCUSS(a)LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET Subject: Re: [MICE-DISCUSS] Four BGP sessions drops with Google/YouTube (AS36040) today Ok I know that Google is on the route servers so is there any advantage to establishing a direct peering session with them? Their peering site says the following: Although Google connects to Internet Exchange route servers where present, Google prefers to establish direct BGP sessions for traffic exchange. On Fri, Nov 23, 2018 at 8:59 PM Jeremy Lumby <jlumby(a)mnvoip.com> wrote: MICE only has a cache, and the other IXes have full backbone routes. From: MICE Discuss [mailto:MICE-DISCUSS@LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET] On Behalf Of Darin Steffl Sent: Friday, November 23, 2018 8:56 PM To: MICE-DISCUSS(a)LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET Subject: Re: [MICE-DISCUSS] Four BGP sessions drops with Google/YouTube (AS36040) today Sorry to go off topic a little but why isn't Google advertising their main AS 15169 on MICE? Their website shows Minneapolis being one of their Edge POPs but they're using their less common AS 36040 here. Anyone know why we're not as cool as the other IX's they're on with 15169? On Fri, Nov 23, 2018 at 8:21 PM Jeremy Lumby <jlumby(a)mnvoip.com> wrote: I have noticed that Google has had me redirected to their cache on The Kansas City Internet Exchange most of the day. 2602:ffaa:0:7:8d5:1b2c:f084:513c => google-mci2 : superx_isp_number: 3 (2602:ffaa::/36) From: MICE Discuss [mailto:MICE-DISCUSS@LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET] On Behalf Of Frank Bulk Sent: Friday, November 23, 2018 8:14 PM To: MICE-DISCUSS(a)LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET Subject: [MICE-DISCUSS] Four BGP sessions drops with Google/YouTube (AS36040) today FYI, we saw our BGP session drop with AS36040 several times today: 12:08:46 to 12:08:51 pm 2:01 to 2:02 pm ~4:02 to ~4:04 pm ~7:36 to ~7:38 pm Graphs show some serious stability issues: Error! Filename not specified. Regards, Frank To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1 To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1 -- Darin Steffl Minnesota WiFi www.mnwifi.com 507-634-WiFi Like us on Facebook To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1 To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1 -- Darin Steffl Minnesota WiFi www.mnwifi.com 507-634-WiFi Like us on Facebook To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1 To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1 To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1

Nov. 24, 2018

Re: Four BGP sessions drops with Google/YouTube (AS36040) today

by Frank Bulk

GGC shared this with me: The BGP session and aggregated interfaces seems stable now, however earlier, we've seen all interfaces on the path to 206.108.255.4 flap. We'll re-check it after some time to verify that this is no longer happening. Any log entries on the IX’s switch that give a hint as to why the links are dropping? Frank From: MICE Discuss <MICE-DISCUSS(a)LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET> On Behalf Of Jeremy Lumby Sent: Friday, November 23, 2018 11:31 PM To: MICE-DISCUSS(a)LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET Subject: Re: [MICE-DISCUSS] Four BGP sessions drops with Google/YouTube (AS36040) today In general you can get a little better granular control of your session if you are bilaterally peered since not all IX route servers support communities, and have different security features supported/enabled. Not all implementations of communities are as detailed as you can get bilaterally. There is also one less point of failure when not using routeservers. From: MICE Discuss [mailto:MICE-DISCUSS@LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET] On Behalf Of Darin Steffl Sent: Friday, November 23, 2018 9:59 PM To: MICE-DISCUSS(a)LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET<mailto:MICE-DISCUSS@LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET> Subject: Re: [MICE-DISCUSS] Four BGP sessions drops with Google/YouTube (AS36040) today Ok I know that Google is on the route servers so is there any advantage to establishing a direct peering session with them? Their peering site says the following: Although Google connects to Internet Exchange route servers where present, Google prefers to establish direct BGP sessions for traffic exchange. On Fri, Nov 23, 2018 at 8:59 PM Jeremy Lumby <jlumby(a)mnvoip.com<mailto:jlumby@mnvoip.com>> wrote: MICE only has a cache, and the other IXes have full backbone routes. From: MICE Discuss [mailto:MICE-DISCUSS@LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET<mailto:MICE-DISCUSS@LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET>] On Behalf Of Darin Steffl Sent: Friday, November 23, 2018 8:56 PM To: MICE-DISCUSS(a)LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET<mailto:MICE-DISCUSS@LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET> Subject: Re: [MICE-DISCUSS] Four BGP sessions drops with Google/YouTube (AS36040) today Sorry to go off topic a little but why isn't Google advertising their main AS 15169 on MICE? Their website shows Minneapolis being one of their Edge POPs but they're using their less common AS 36040 here. Anyone know why we're not as cool as the other IX's they're on with 15169? On Fri, Nov 23, 2018 at 8:21 PM Jeremy Lumby <jlumby(a)mnvoip.com<mailto:jlumby@mnvoip.com>> wrote: I have noticed that Google has had me redirected to their cache on The Kansas City Internet Exchange most of the day. 2602:ffaa:0:7:8d5:1b2c:f084:513c => google-mci2 : superx_isp_number: 3 (2602:ffaa::/36) From: MICE Discuss [mailto:MICE-DISCUSS@LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET<mailto:MICE-DISCUSS@LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET>] On Behalf Of Frank Bulk Sent: Friday, November 23, 2018 8:14 PM To: MICE-DISCUSS(a)LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET<mailto:MICE-DISCUSS@LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET> Subject: [MICE-DISCUSS] Four BGP sessions drops with Google/YouTube (AS36040) today FYI, we saw our BGP session drop with AS36040 several times today: * 12:08:46 to 12:08:51 pm * 2:01 to 2:02 pm * ~4:02 to ~4:04 pm * ~7:36 to ~7:38 pm Graphs show some serious stability issues: Error! Filename not specified. Regards, Frank ________________________________ To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1 ________________________________ To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1 -- Darin Steffl Minnesota WiFi www.mnwifi.com<http://www.mnwifi.com/> 507-634-WiFi [http://www.snoitulosten.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/01/facebook-small.jpg]<http://www.facebook.com/minnesotawifi> Like us on Facebook<http://www.facebook.com/minnesotawifi> ________________________________ To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1 ________________________________ To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1 -- Darin Steffl Minnesota WiFi www.mnwifi.com<http://www.mnwifi.com/> 507-634-WiFi [http://www.snoitulosten.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/01/facebook-small.jpg]<http://www.facebook.com/minnesotawifi> Like us on Facebook<http://www.facebook.com/minnesotawifi> ________________________________ To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1 ________________________________ To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1

Nov. 24, 2018

Re: Four BGP sessions drops with Google/YouTube (AS36040) today

by Jeremy Lumby

In general you can get a little better granular control of your session if you are bilaterally peered since not all IX route servers support communities, and have different security features supported/enabled. Not all implementations of communities are as detailed as you can get bilaterally. There is also one less point of failure when not using routeservers. From: MICE Discuss [mailto:MICE-DISCUSS@LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET] On Behalf Of Darin Steffl Sent: Friday, November 23, 2018 9:59 PM To: MICE-DISCUSS(a)LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET Subject: Re: [MICE-DISCUSS] Four BGP sessions drops with Google/YouTube (AS36040) today Ok I know that Google is on the route servers so is there any advantage to establishing a direct peering session with them? Their peering site says the following: Although Google connects to Internet Exchange route servers where present, Google prefers to establish direct BGP sessions for traffic exchange. On Fri, Nov 23, 2018 at 8:59 PM Jeremy Lumby <jlumby(a)mnvoip.com> wrote: MICE only has a cache, and the other IXes have full backbone routes. From: MICE Discuss [mailto:MICE-DISCUSS@LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET] On Behalf Of Darin Steffl Sent: Friday, November 23, 2018 8:56 PM To: MICE-DISCUSS(a)LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET Subject: Re: [MICE-DISCUSS] Four BGP sessions drops with Google/YouTube (AS36040) today Sorry to go off topic a little but why isn't Google advertising their main AS 15169 on MICE? Their website shows Minneapolis being one of their Edge POPs but they're using their less common AS 36040 here. Anyone know why we're not as cool as the other IX's they're on with 15169? On Fri, Nov 23, 2018 at 8:21 PM Jeremy Lumby <jlumby(a)mnvoip.com> wrote: I have noticed that Google has had me redirected to their cache on The Kansas City Internet Exchange most of the day. 2602:ffaa:0:7:8d5:1b2c:f084:513c => google-mci2 : superx_isp_number: 3 (2602:ffaa::/36) From: MICE Discuss [mailto:MICE-DISCUSS@LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET] On Behalf Of Frank Bulk Sent: Friday, November 23, 2018 8:14 PM To: MICE-DISCUSS(a)LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET Subject: [MICE-DISCUSS] Four BGP sessions drops with Google/YouTube (AS36040) today FYI, we saw our BGP session drop with AS36040 several times today: 12:08:46 to 12:08:51 pm 2:01 to 2:02 pm ~4:02 to ~4:04 pm ~7:36 to ~7:38 pm Graphs show some serious stability issues: Error! Filename not specified. Regards, Frank To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1 To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1 -- Darin Steffl Minnesota WiFi www.mnwifi.com 507-634-WiFi Like us on Facebook To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1 To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1 -- Darin Steffl Minnesota WiFi www.mnwifi.com 507-634-WiFi Like us on Facebook To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1

Nov. 24, 2018

Re: Four BGP sessions drops with Google/YouTube (AS36040) today

by Darin Steffl

Ok I know that Google is on the route servers so is there any advantage to establishing a direct peering session with them? Their peering site says the following: Although Google connects to Internet Exchange route servers where present, Google prefers to establish direct BGP sessions for traffic exchange. On Fri, Nov 23, 2018 at 8:59 PM Jeremy Lumby <jlumby(a)mnvoip.com> wrote: > MICE only has a cache, and the other IXes have full backbone routes. > > > > *From:* MICE Discuss [mailto:MICE-DISCUSS@LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET] *On Behalf > Of *Darin Steffl > *Sent:* Friday, November 23, 2018 8:56 PM > *To:* MICE-DISCUSS(a)LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET > *Subject:* Re: [MICE-DISCUSS] Four BGP sessions drops with Google/YouTube > (AS36040) today > > > > Sorry to go off topic a little but why isn't Google advertising their main > AS 15169 on MICE? Their website shows Minneapolis being one of their Edge > POPs but they're using their less common AS 36040 here. > > > > Anyone know why we're not as cool as the other IX's they're on with 15169? > > > > On Fri, Nov 23, 2018 at 8:21 PM Jeremy Lumby <jlumby(a)mnvoip.com> wrote: > > I have noticed that Google has had me redirected to their cache on The > Kansas City Internet Exchange most of the day. > > 2602:ffaa:0:7:8d5:1b2c:f084:513c => google-mci2 : superx_isp_number: 3 > (2602:ffaa::/36) > > > > > > > > *From:* MICE Discuss [mailto:MICE-DISCUSS@LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET] *On Behalf > Of *Frank Bulk > *Sent:* Friday, November 23, 2018 8:14 PM > *To:* MICE-DISCUSS(a)LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET > *Subject:* [MICE-DISCUSS] Four BGP sessions drops with Google/YouTube > (AS36040) today > > > > FYI, we saw our BGP session drop with AS36040 several times today: > > - 12:08:46 to 12:08:51 pm > - 2:01 to 2:02 pm > - ~4:02 to ~4:04 pm > - ~7:36 to ~7:38 pm > > > > Graphs show some serious stability issues: > > > > > > Regards, > > > > Frank > > > ------------------------------ > > To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: > http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1 > > > ------------------------------ > > To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: > http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1 > > > > > -- > > Darin Steffl > > Minnesota WiFi > > www.mnwifi.com > > 507-634-WiFi > > <http://www.facebook.com/minnesotawifi> Like us on Facebook > <http://www.facebook.com/minnesotawifi> > > > ------------------------------ > > To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: > http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1 > > ------------------------------ > > To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: > http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1 > -- Darin Steffl Minnesota WiFi www.mnwifi.com 507-634-WiFi <http://www.facebook.com/minnesotawifi> Like us on Facebook <http://www.facebook.com/minnesotawifi>

Nov. 24, 2018

Re: Four BGP sessions drops with Google/YouTube (AS36040) today

by Jeremy Lumby

MICE only has a cache, and the other IXes have full backbone routes. From: MICE Discuss [mailto:MICE-DISCUSS@LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET] On Behalf Of Darin Steffl Sent: Friday, November 23, 2018 8:56 PM To: MICE-DISCUSS(a)LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET Subject: Re: [MICE-DISCUSS] Four BGP sessions drops with Google/YouTube (AS36040) today Sorry to go off topic a little but why isn't Google advertising their main AS 15169 on MICE? Their website shows Minneapolis being one of their Edge POPs but they're using their less common AS 36040 here. Anyone know why we're not as cool as the other IX's they're on with 15169? On Fri, Nov 23, 2018 at 8:21 PM Jeremy Lumby <jlumby(a)mnvoip.com> wrote: I have noticed that Google has had me redirected to their cache on The Kansas City Internet Exchange most of the day. 2602:ffaa:0:7:8d5:1b2c:f084:513c => google-mci2 : superx_isp_number: 3 (2602:ffaa::/36) From: MICE Discuss [mailto:MICE-DISCUSS@LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET] On Behalf Of Frank Bulk Sent: Friday, November 23, 2018 8:14 PM To: MICE-DISCUSS(a)LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET Subject: [MICE-DISCUSS] Four BGP sessions drops with Google/YouTube (AS36040) today FYI, we saw our BGP session drop with AS36040 several times today: 12:08:46 to 12:08:51 pm 2:01 to 2:02 pm ~4:02 to ~4:04 pm ~7:36 to ~7:38 pm Graphs show some serious stability issues: Regards, Frank To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1 To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1 -- Darin Steffl Minnesota WiFi www.mnwifi.com 507-634-WiFi Like us on Facebook To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1

Nov. 24, 2018

Re: Four BGP sessions drops with Google/YouTube (AS36040) today

by Darin Steffl

Sorry to go off topic a little but why isn't Google advertising their main AS 15169 on MICE? Their website shows Minneapolis being one of their Edge POPs but they're using their less common AS 36040 here. Anyone know why we're not as cool as the other IX's they're on with 15169? On Fri, Nov 23, 2018 at 8:21 PM Jeremy Lumby <jlumby(a)mnvoip.com> wrote: > I have noticed that Google has had me redirected to their cache on The > Kansas City Internet Exchange most of the day. > > 2602:ffaa:0:7:8d5:1b2c:f084:513c => google-mci2 : superx_isp_number: 3 > (2602:ffaa::/36) > > > > > > > > *From:* MICE Discuss [mailto:MICE-DISCUSS@LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET] *On Behalf > Of *Frank Bulk > *Sent:* Friday, November 23, 2018 8:14 PM > *To:* MICE-DISCUSS(a)LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET > *Subject:* [MICE-DISCUSS] Four BGP sessions drops with Google/YouTube > (AS36040) today > > > > FYI, we saw our BGP session drop with AS36040 several times today: > > - 12:08:46 to 12:08:51 pm > - 2:01 to 2:02 pm > - ~4:02 to ~4:04 pm > - ~7:36 to ~7:38 pm > > > > Graphs show some serious stability issues: > > > > > > Regards, > > > > Frank > > > ------------------------------ > > To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: > http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1 > > ------------------------------ > > To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: > http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1 > -- Darin Steffl Minnesota WiFi www.mnwifi.com 507-634-WiFi <http://www.facebook.com/minnesotawifi> Like us on Facebook <http://www.facebook.com/minnesotawifi>

Nov. 24, 2018

Re: Four BGP sessions drops with Google/YouTube (AS36040) today

by Jeremy Lumby

I have noticed that Google has had me redirected to their cache on The Kansas City Internet Exchange most of the day. 2602:ffaa:0:7:8d5:1b2c:f084:513c => google-mci2 : superx_isp_number: 3 (2602:ffaa::/36) From: MICE Discuss [mailto:MICE-DISCUSS@LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET] On Behalf Of Frank Bulk Sent: Friday, November 23, 2018 8:14 PM To: MICE-DISCUSS(a)LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET Subject: [MICE-DISCUSS] Four BGP sessions drops with Google/YouTube (AS36040) today FYI, we saw our BGP session drop with AS36040 several times today: 12:08:46 to 12:08:51 pm 2:01 to 2:02 pm ~4:02 to ~4:04 pm ~7:36 to ~7:38 pm Graphs show some serious stability issues: Regards, Frank To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1

Nov. 24, 2018

Four BGP sessions drops with Google/YouTube (AS36040) today

by Frank Bulk

FYI, we saw our BGP session drop with AS36040 several times today: * 12:08:46 to 12:08:51 pm * 2:01 to 2:02 pm * ~4:02 to ~4:04 pm * ~7:36 to ~7:38 pm Graphs show some serious stability issues: [cid:image001.png@01D48368.C4C26A60] Regards, Frank

Nov. 24, 2018

Re: Please Welcome Facebook to MICE!

by Jeremy Lumby

The ports are programmed, and ready on the main switch. The first LAG is port-channel 24, and the second is port-channel 25 -----Original Message----- From: MICE Discuss [mailto:MICE-DISCUSS@LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET] On Behalf Of Jay Hanke Sent: Tuesday, November 13, 2018 7:55 PM To: MICE-DISCUSS(a)LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET Subject: [MICE-DISCUSS] Please Welcome Facebook to MICE! Name: Facebook ASN: 32934 Ports: 2x2x10G First LAG: Ethernet4/27 Ethernet4/28 Second LAG: Ethernet5/27 Ethernet5/28 IPv4: 206.108.255.116/24 206.108.255.117/24 IPv6: 2001:504:27:0:0:80a6::1/64 2001:504:27:0:0:80a6::2/64 Peering contact: peering(a)fb.com Route Server: NO BFD Support: NO Note: These port assignments contain ports that were previously in use. Welcome aboard! -- Jay Hanke, President South Front Networks jayhanke(a)southfront.io Phone 612-204-0000

Nov. 14, 2018

MICE Congestion

by Jay Hanke

We are seeing very heavy traffic on several ports tonight: Amazon TDS Jaguar WIN -- Jay Hanke, President South Front Networks jayhanke(a)southfront.io Phone 612-204-0000

Nov. 14, 2018

Please Welcome Facebook to MICE!

by Jay Hanke

Name: Facebook ASN: 32934 Ports: 2x2x10G First LAG: Ethernet4/27 Ethernet4/28 Second LAG: Ethernet5/27 Ethernet5/28 IPv4: 206.108.255.116/24 206.108.255.117/24 IPv6: 2001:504:27:0:0:80a6::1/64 2001:504:27:0:0:80a6::2/64 Peering contact: peering(a)fb.com Route Server: NO BFD Support: NO Note: These port assignments contain ports that were previously in use. Welcome aboard! -- Jay Hanke, President South Front Networks jayhanke(a)southfront.io Phone 612-204-0000

Nov. 14, 2018

Arvig 100G upgrade

by Jay Hanke

Arvig is upgrading their MICE connection to 100G. The new port is Ethernet 3/8/1 on the main switch. Arvig will be turning down their existing connections to ports Ethernet 4/7 and Ethernet 5/9 as part of the migration. All IP Addressing information will remain the same. Thanks! -- Jay Hanke, President South Front Networks jayhanke(a)southfront.io Phone 612-204-0000

Nov. 13, 2018