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Graphing

by Steve Savoy

Good morning, Anyone else seeing their graphing not working this am? [cid:image001.png@01DCD79F.F39E1DF0] Thank you, Steve Savoy WCTA Confidentiality Notice: This correspondence is the property of Winnebago Cooperative Telecom Association and is for the sole use of the intended recipient(s) and may contain confidential and privileged information. Any unauthorized review, use, disclosure or distribution is prohibited. If you are not the intended recipient, please contact the sender by reply email and destroy all copies of the original message.

April 29, 2026

Please welcome T-Mobile USA, Inc to MICE!

by Jeremy Lumby

Name: T-Mobile USA, Inc Switch: MICE Core 511-400G 7804 Port: Ethernet 4/28/1 ASN: 21928 IPv4: This is a port addition; all IP info remains the same IPv6: Peering Contact: peering(a)t-mobile.com Route Servers: Partial This port addition takes total capacity to 2x400G and 3x100G Welcome Aboard Again! Jeremy Lumby Minnesota VoIP 9217 17th Ave S #216 Bloomington, MN 55425 Main: 612-355-7740 Direct: 612-392-6814 Fax: 952-873-7425 jlumby(a)mnvoip.com

April 19, 2026

Please welcome Fastly to MICE!

by Jeremy Lumby

Name: Fastly Port(s): Adding E6/9/1 to portchannel 14 on the 511-Core-100G switch & Adding E3/15/1 to portchannel 9 on the 511-Core-400G switch ASN: 54113 IPv4: This is a port upgrade, all IP info remains the same. The new connection will be 2x2x100G IPv6: Peering Contact: peering(a)fastly.com Route Servers: YES Welcome Aboard Again! Jeremy Lumby Minnesota VoIP 9217 17th Ave S #216 Bloomington, MN 55425 Main: 612-355-7740 Direct: 612-392-6814 Fax: 952-873-7425 jlumby(a)mnvoip.com

March 20, 2026

Re: UG 49 Zoom

by Chris Wopat

Same issue - the agenda has three separate zoom meeting ID's, all of which say "Invalid meeting ID" 94150849014 - in the URL text 97601658469 - what the URL text actually goes to 98593962100 - the meeting ID listed not in the hyperlink --Chris On 3/11/26 15:04, Shawn Rasmussen via mice-discuss wrote: > External > > The Zoom link for UG 49 is not letting me in. Can someone resend? > > Thanks, > > *SHAWN* > > *RASMUSSEN* > > Network Manager > > D: (218) 454-1106 > > <https://youtu.be/A_tgcHZD6oA><https://twitter.com/connectctc><https:// > www.facebook.com/connectctc>*goctc.com* <http://www.goctc.com/>** > > <https://www.goctc.com/> > > ** > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > mice-discuss mailing list -- mice-discuss(a)lists.micemn.net > To unsubscribe send an email to mice-discuss-leave(a)lists.micemn.net -- Chris Wopat Network Engineer, WiscNet wopat(a)wiscnet.net 608-210-3965

March 11, 2026

Re: UG 49 Zoom

by Andrew Hoyos

Was just about to ask the same :) Andrew Hoyos hoyosa(a)gmail.com > On Mar 11, 2026, at 15:04, Shawn Rasmussen via mice-discuss <mice-discuss(a)lists.micemn.net> wrote: > > The Zoom link for UG 49 is not letting me in. Can someone resend? > > Thanks, > > SHAWN > RASMUSSEN > Network Manager > D: (218) 454-1106 > <image001.gif> <https://youtu.be/A_tgcHZD6oA><image002.gif> <https://twitter.com/connectctc><image003.gif> <https://www.facebook.com/connectctc>goctc.com <http://www.goctc.com/> > <image004.gif> <https://www.goctc.com/> > > > > > _______________________________________________ > mice-discuss mailing list -- mice-discuss(a)lists.micemn.net <mailto:mice-discuss@lists.micemn.net> > To unsubscribe send an email to mice-discuss-leave(a)lists.micemn.net <mailto:mice-discuss-leave@lists.micemn.net>

March 11, 2026

Re: UG 49 Meeting Reminder

by David Farmer

corrected zoom link ────────── David E Farmer III is inviting you to a scheduled Zoom meeting. Join Zoom Meeting https://umn.zoom.us/j/96090590713?pwd=kaQZ0W7FyDaqWMMUb5FSSuzYPdnilI.1 <https://www.google.com/url?q=https://umn.zoom.us/j/96090590713?pwd%3DkaQZ0W…> Meeting ID: 960 9059 0713 Passcode: LqD75R --- One tap mobile +16513728299,,96090590713#,,,,*713932# US (Minnesota) +16465588656,,96090590713#,,,,*713932# US (New York) --- Join by SIP • 96090590713(a)zoomcrc.com On Wed, Feb 25, 2026 at 11:49 PM Richard Laager <rlaager(a)micemn.net> wrote: > The MICE UG 49 meeting will be held Wednesday, March 11, 3:00 pm at UMN > and via Zoom. > > > Note: new physical location! > > > *UMN Details* (from David Farmer) > > Room 120 > 2829 University Avenue SE > Minneapolis, MN 55414 > > https://campusmaps.umn.edu/university-park-plaza > https://maps.app.goo.gl/ZgoeDvzJzUZU98Bg6 > > This is about 6 blocks east of the old location on University Avenue > SE, just west of the US Post Office. It is next to the Prospect Park-Green > Line Light Rail Station, which is just to the east of the building. > > Building Access: > The building's main exterior doors are University card-access only. > However, Room 120 has a separate exterior door just off the main entrance, > to the right (east), up the exterior stairs on the University Avenue side > of the building. After 2:30, knock on that door, and someone will let you > in. Otherwise, if you are early, can't get into the building, or can't find > the door mentioned, call me on my cell at 612-812-9952. > > Parking: > The Prospect Park Ramp, with public parking, is behind the building, on > the corner of 4th ST SE and 29th Ave SE, and there is metered parking along > 4th Street SE. There is also limited short-term visitor and handicap > parking in a small lot on the east side of the Building; park there at your > own risk. > > > https://pts.umn.edu/park-and-drive/general-information/facilities/prospect-… > > Nearby Lodging Option: > There are two Hotels across the street. > > Hampton Inn & Suites Minneapolis University Area > > https://www.hilton.com/en/hotels/mspuahx-hampton-suites-minneapolis-univers… > > Home2 Suites by Hilton Minneapolis University Area > > https://www.hilton.com/en/hotels/msptcht-home2-suites-minneapolis-universit… > > -- > Richard Laager > Chief Manager, Director > Midwest Internet Cooperative Exchange LLC > > _______________________________________________ > mice-discuss mailing list -- mice-discuss(a)lists.micemn.net > To unsubscribe send an email to mice-discuss-leave(a)lists.micemn.net > -- Thank you / Ho Pidamayado / Miigwech =============================================== David Farmer Email:farmer@umn.edu Networking & Telecommunication Services Office of Information Technology University of Minnesota 2829 University Ave SE Phone: 612-626-0815 Minneapolis, MN 55414 Cell: 612-812-9952 ===============================================

March 11, 2026

UG 49 Zoom

by Shawn Rasmussen

The Zoom link for UG 49 is not letting me in. Can someone resend? Thanks, SHAWN RASMUSSEN Network Manager D: (218) 454-1106 [cid:image001.gif@01DCB168.4EB93CF0]<https://youtu.be/A_tgcHZD6oA>[cid:image002.gif@01DCB168.4EB93CF0]<https://twitter.com/connectctc>[cid:image003.gif@01DCB168.4EB93CF0]<https://www.facebook.com/connectctc>goctc.com<http://www.goctc.com/> [cid:image004.gif@01DCB168.4EB93CF0]<https://www.goctc.com/>

March 11, 2026

MWPS DesMoines 2026 Registration Open

by Jay Hanke

Registration is open for the Midwest Peering Summit 2026 in Des Moines. Exchanges including KCIX, DesMoinesIX, MICE, OmahaIX, OpenPipes Chicago, QCIX, STLIX, DE-CIX and many more will be in attendance. We also have many ISPs and datacenters already confirmed. Early bird registration is almost sold out. We are at a smaller venue this year and expect to reach capacity. Thanks! https://www.eventcreate.com/e/mwps2026 -- Jay Hanke, President South Front Networks jayhanke(a)southfront.io Phone 507-327-2398 https://southfront.io/ <https://southfront.io/path.html> Midwest Peering Summit July 8th, Des Moines https://www.eventcreate.com/e/mwps2026

March 6, 2026

Re: MICE Route Server Max Prefix

by Adam Korab

Thank you, Richard, for already updating the values in the PeeringDB record! 😉 https://www.peeringdb.com/net/11380 For those interested in outsourcing keeping track of this to a computer rather than a meatbag, extracting the values via the PeeringDB API is straightforward: curl -sH \ "Authorization: Api-Key $YOUR_PDB_API_KEY" \ "https://www.peeringdb.com/api /net?asn__in=53679" \ | jq -r '.data[] | "\(.asn) \(.info_prefixes4) \(.info_prefixes6)"' Which outputs: 53679 250000 150000 You can modify the value of ?asn__in for multiple ASNs in one call, e.g., for MICE and SeattleIX respectively: ?asn__in=53679,33108 will return: 33108 250000 100000 53679 250000 150000 Hmm. Looks like SIX needs to update the IPv6 value in PDB! <g> Finally, I have a couple of simple python scripts for working with the PDB API. If anybody would like these, help with creating a PDB API key, or really anything PDB-operationally, ping me off-list and I'll be happy to help. AK AS16970 (wearing the "your friendly local PDB admin committee member" hat) From: Richard Laager <rlaager(a)micemn.net> Date: Thursday, March 5, 2026 at 2:53 AM To: "mice-announce(a)lists.micemn.net" <mice-announce(a)lists.micemn.net>, MICE Discuss <mice-discuss(a)lists.micemn.net> Subject: MICE Route Server Max Prefix We, like SeattleIX, recommend that everyone increase their MICE route server max prefix settings: IPv4: 250,000 prefixes IPv6: 150,000 prefixes -- Richard Laager Chief Manager, Director Midwest Internet Cooperative Exchange LLC

March 5, 2026

MICE Route Server Max Prefix

by Richard Laager

We, like SeattleIX, recommend that everyone increase their MICE route server max prefix settings: IPv4: 250,000 prefixes IPv6: 150,000 prefixes -- Richard Laager Chief Manager, Director Midwest Internet Cooperative Exchange LLC

March 5, 2026

UG 49 Meeting Reminder

by Richard Laager

The MICE UG 49 meeting will be held Wednesday, March 11, 3:00 pm at UMN and via Zoom. Note: new physical location! *UMN Details* (from David Farmer) Room 120 2829 University Avenue SE Minneapolis, MN 55414 https://campusmaps.umn.edu/university-park-plaza https://maps.app.goo.gl/ZgoeDvzJzUZU98Bg6 This is about 6 blocks east of the old location on University Avenue SE, just west of the US Post Office. It is next to the Prospect Park-Green Line Light Rail Station, which is just to the east of the building. Building Access: The building's main exterior doors are University card-access only. However, Room 120 has a separate exterior door just off the main entrance, to the right (east), up the exterior stairs on the University Avenue side of the building. After 2:30, knock on that door, and someone will let you in. Otherwise, if you are early, can't get into the building, or can't find the door mentioned, call me on my cell at 612-812-9952. Parking: The Prospect Park Ramp, with public parking, is behind the building, on the corner of 4th ST SE and 29th Ave SE, and there is metered parking along 4th Street SE. There is also limited short-term visitor and handicap parking in a small lot on the east side of the Building; park there at your own risk. https://pts.umn.edu/park-and-drive/general-information/facilities/prospect-… Nearby Lodging Option: There are two Hotels across the street. Hampton Inn & Suites Minneapolis University Area https://www.hilton.com/en/hotels/mspuahx-hampton-suites-minneapolis-univers… Home2 Suites by Hilton Minneapolis University Area https://www.hilton.com/en/hotels/msptcht-home2-suites-minneapolis-universit… -- Richard Laager Chief Manager, Director Midwest Internet Cooperative Exchange LLC

Feb. 26, 2026

Please welcome Hurricane Electric to MICE!

by Jeremy Lumby

Name: Hurricane Electric Switch: 511-Core-400G Port: E3/29/1 ASN: 6939 IPv4: This is a port upgrade, all IP info remains the same. The new connection will be 1x400G in portchannel 6 IPv6: Peering Contact: peering(a)he.net Route Servers: Partial Welcome Aboard Again! Jeremy Lumby Minnesota VoIP 9217 17th Ave S #216 Bloomington, MN 55425 Main: 612-355-7740 Direct: 612-392-6814 Fax: 952-873-7425 jlumby(a)mnvoip.com

Feb. 23, 2026

Re: potential new business..

by John Unger

Mike are you looking for a Rack of space? We have that available at special MICE member pricing? Starting at $650/rack with dual power and bandwidth Regards John John Unger President 612.325.2909 Vaultas | vaultas.com Connecting you to the Ecosystem On Mon, Feb 16, 2026, 4:14 PM Mike Horwath <drechsau(a)geeks.org> wrote: > and I am reaching out to local folks: > > 1 rack > > Email me directly and not through the list, of course :) > > -- > Mike Horwath, reachable via drechsau(a)Geeks.ORG > _______________________________________________ > mice-discuss mailing list -- mice-discuss(a)lists.micemn.net > To unsubscribe send an email to mice-discuss-leave(a)lists.micemn.net >

Feb. 18, 2026

Re: potential new business..

by Mike Horwath

On Mon, Feb 16, 2026 at 03:14:12PM -0600, Mike Horwath wrote: [big snipper] OMG thanks for all the responses so quickly. I am overwhelmed! I have responded to the queue so far but I thought I had a little more time to break down requirements. :) THANK YOU! -- Mike Horwath, reachable via drechsau(a)Geeks.ORG

Feb. 16, 2026

Router12 [AS55009] MICE Disconnect

by Jay Hanke

Router12 [AS55009] has disconnected from MICE. -- Jay Hanke, President South Front Networks jayhanke(a)southfront.io Phone 507-327-2398 https://southfront.io/

Feb. 16, 2026

potential new business..

by Mike Horwath

and I am reaching out to local folks: 1 rack Email me directly and not through the list, of course :) -- Mike Horwath, reachable via drechsau(a)Geeks.ORG

Feb. 16, 2026

Please welcome Miles Cooperative Telephone Association to MICE!

by Jeremy Lumby

Name: Miles Cooperative Telephone Association Switch: MICE Core 511-100G 7504 Ports: E 4/13 (1x10G in Portchannel 4) ASN: 394728 IPv4: 206.108.255.62/24 IPv6: 2001:504:27:0:6:05E8::1/64 Peering Contact: peering(a)milestelephone.com Route Servers: Yes Welcome Aboard! Jeremy Lumby Minnesota VoIP 9217 17th Ave S #216 Bloomington, MN 55425 Main: 612-355-7740 Direct: 612-392-6814 Fax: 952-873-7425 jlumby(a)mnvoip.com

Feb. 8, 2026

Savage Communications (AS23260)

by Miles McCredie

Midco acquired Savage Communications late last year. This morning I filtered the BGP sessions between AS23260 and the MICE route servers. The AS23260 prefixes are still available at MICE via AS11232. Please let me know if there are any issues. Thanks [http://images.midcocomm.com/ES_MidcoLogo.png] Miles McCredie Principal Network Engineer II Core IP Office: 6052755192 Miles.McCredie(a)midco.com Midco.com Let's go beyond.

Jan. 29, 2026

Re: IXP Port Graphs

by Richard Laager

I rebooted the server (and patched it while I was at it). I think it's working at the moment. Let's see if it stays working. On 2025-12-12 08:39, Steve Savoy wrote: > > I’m hoping the ‘Admins’ will see this post as I really don’t know who > to notify directly. > > It appears our Port Graphs are not functioning properly since Tuesday. > > Thank you, > > A logo with blue and green textDescription automatically generated > <https://www.wctatel.net/>*//* > > > > */Steve Savoy/* > > */Network Administrator/* > > */Winnebago Cooperative Telecom Association/* > > 704 E Main St | Lake Mills, IA 50450 > > Phone: 641.592.6105 | Toll Free: 800.592.6105 | Fax: 641.592.6102 > > Email: stevesavoy(a)wctatel.com <mailto:stevesavoy@wctatel.com>*//* > > <https://www.facebook.com/WCTAtel>*//* > > > > <https://www.instagram.com/wctatel/>*//* > > > > <https://www.linkedin.com/company/wctatel/>*//* > > > > <https://www.youtube.com/@wcta4892> > > > > > > > > Confidentiality Notice: This correspondence is the property of > Winnebago Cooperative Telecom Association and is for the sole use of > the intended recipient(s) and may contain confidential and privileged > information. Any unauthorized review, use, disclosure or distribution > is prohibited. If you are not the intended recipient, please contact > the sender by reply email and destroy all copies of the original message. > > > _______________________________________________ > mice-discuss mailing list --mice-discuss(a)lists.micemn.net > To unsubscribe send an email tomice-discuss-leave(a)lists.micemn.net -- Richard

Dec. 13, 2025

RE: IXP Port Graphs

by Steve Savoy

Thank you David! Steve From: David Farmer <farmer(a)umn.edu> Sent: Friday, December 12, 2025 9:25 AM To: Steve Savoy <stevesavoy(a)wctatel.com>; Jeremy Lumby <jlumby(a)mnvoip.com>; Jay Hanke <jayhanke(a)southfront.io> Cc: MICE Discuss <mice-discuss(a)lists.micemn.net> Subject: Re: IXP Port Graphs You don't often get email from farmer(a)umn.edu<mailto:farmer@umn.edu>. Learn why this is important<https://aka.ms/LearnAboutSenderIdentification> It is the IXP manager graphs that seem broken. There are also graphs at http://micelg.usinternet.com/cacti/ With user: guest and Password: guest They seem to be working. Steve, I think this is your graph http://micelg.usinternet.com/cacti/graph.php?rra_id=all&local_graph_id=2802 On Fri, Dec 12, 2025 at 8:43 AM Steve Savoy <stevesavoy(a)wctatel.com<mailto:stevesavoy@wctatel.com>> wrote: I’m hoping the ‘Admins’ will see this post as I really don’t know who to notify directly. It appears our Port Graphs are not functioning properly since Tuesday. [cid:image001.png@01DC6B4D.95E726C0] [cid:image002.png@01DC6B4D.95E726C0] Thank you, [A logo with blue and green textDescription automatically generated]<https://www.wctatel.net/> Steve Savoy Network Administrator Winnebago Cooperative Telecom Association 704 E Main St | Lake Mills, IA 50450 Phone: 641.592.6105 | Toll Free: 800.592.6105 | Fax: 641.592.6102 Email: stevesavoy(a)wctatel.com<mailto:stevesavoy@wctatel.com> [cid:image004.png@01DC6B4D.95E726C0]<https://www.facebook.com/WCTAtel> [cid:image005.png@01DC6B4D.95E726C0]<https://www.instagram.com/wctatel/> [cid:image006.png@01DC6B4D.95E726C0]<https://www.linkedin.com/company/wctatel/> [cid:image007.png@01DC6B4D.95E726C0]<https://www.youtube.com/@wcta4892> Confidentiality Notice: This correspondence is the property of Winnebago Cooperative Telecom Association and is for the sole use of the intended recipient(s) and may contain confidential and privileged information. Any unauthorized review, use, disclosure or distribution is prohibited. If you are not the intended recipient, please contact the sender by reply email and destroy all copies of the original message. _______________________________________________ mice-discuss mailing list -- mice-discuss(a)lists.micemn.net<mailto:mice-discuss@lists.micemn.net> To unsubscribe send an email to mice-discuss-leave(a)lists.micemn.net<mailto:mice-discuss-leave@lists.micemn.net> -- =============================================== David Farmer Email:farmer@umn.edu<mailto:Email%3Afarmer@umn.edu> Networking & Telecommunication Services Office of Information Technology University of Minnesota 2218 University Ave SE Phone: 612-626-0815 Minneapolis, MN 55414-3029 Cell: 612-812-9952 ===============================================

Dec. 12, 2025

Re: IXP Port Graphs

by David Farmer

It is the IXP manager graphs that seem broken. There are also graphs at http://micelg.usinternet.com/cacti/ With user: guest and Password: guest They seem to be working. Steve, I think this is your graph http://micelg.usinternet.com/cacti/graph.php?rra_id=all&local_graph_id=2802 On Fri, Dec 12, 2025 at 8:43 AM Steve Savoy <stevesavoy(a)wctatel.com> wrote: > I’m hoping the ‘Admins’ will see this post as I really don’t know who to > notify directly. > > > > It appears our Port Graphs are not functioning properly since Tuesday. > > > > > > > > > > Thank you, > > > > > > [image: A logo with blue and green textDescription automatically generated] > <https://www.wctatel.net/> > > *Steve Savoy* > > *Network Administrator* > > *Winnebago Cooperative Telecom Association* > > 704 E Main St | Lake Mills, IA 50450 > > Phone: 641.592.6105 | Toll Free: 800.592.6105 | Fax: 641.592.6102 > > Email: stevesavoy(a)wctatel.com > > <https://www.facebook.com/WCTAtel> > > <https://www.instagram.com/wctatel/> > > <https://www.linkedin.com/company/wctatel/> > > <https://www.youtube.com/@wcta4892> > > > > > > Confidentiality Notice: This correspondence is the property of Winnebago > Cooperative Telecom Association and is for the sole use of the intended > recipient(s) and may contain confidential and privileged information. Any > unauthorized review, use, disclosure or distribution is prohibited. If you > are not the intended recipient, please contact the sender by reply email > and destroy all copies of the original message. > _______________________________________________ > mice-discuss mailing list -- mice-discuss(a)lists.micemn.net > To unsubscribe send an email to mice-discuss-leave(a)lists.micemn.net > -- =============================================== David Farmer Email:farmer@umn.edu Networking & Telecommunication Services Office of Information Technology University of Minnesota 2218 University Ave SE Phone: 612-626-0815 Minneapolis, MN 55414-3029 Cell: 612-812-9952 ===============================================

Dec. 12, 2025

IXP Port Graphs

by Steve Savoy

I'm hoping the 'Admins' will see this post as I really don't know who to notify directly. It appears our Port Graphs are not functioning properly since Tuesday. [cid:image001.png@01DC6B42.D027E000] [cid:image002.png@01DC6B42.D027E000] Thank you, [A logo with blue and green textDescription automatically generated]<https://www.wctatel.net/> Steve Savoy Network Administrator Winnebago Cooperative Telecom Association 704 E Main St | Lake Mills, IA 50450 Phone: 641.592.6105 | Toll Free: 800.592.6105 | Fax: 641.592.6102 Email: stevesavoy(a)wctatel.com<mailto:stevesavoy@wctatel.com> [cid:image006.png@01DC6B42.D027E000]<https://www.facebook.com/WCTAtel> [cid:image008.png@01DC6B42.D027E000]<https://www.instagram.com/wctatel/> [cid:image010.png@01DC6B42.D027E000]<https://www.linkedin.com/company/wctatel/> [cid:image012.png@01DC6B42.D027E000]<https://www.youtube.com/@wcta4892> Confidentiality Notice: This correspondence is the property of Winnebago Cooperative Telecom Association and is for the sole use of the intended recipient(s) and may contain confidential and privileged information. Any unauthorized review, use, disclosure or distribution is prohibited. If you are not the intended recipient, please contact the sender by reply email and destroy all copies of the original message.

Dec. 12, 2025

Please welcome Akamai Technologies Inc. to MICE!

by Jeremy Lumby

Name: Akamai Technologies Inc. Switch: MICE 511 Core 7804R3 Port: E3/27/1 (400G in po 23) and 4/27/1 (400G in po 24) ASN: 20940 IPv4: 206.108.255.43 and 206.108.255.44 IPv6: 2001:504:27::51cc:0:3 and 2001:504:27::51cc:0:4 Peering Contact: peering-tix(a)akamai.com Route Servers: YES Adding 2x1x400G for temporary testing purposes, and potential future expansion. Welcome Aboard Again! Jeremy Lumby Minnesota VoIP 9217 17th Ave S #216 Bloomington, MN 55425 Main: 612-355-7740 Direct: 612-392-6814 Fax: 952-873-7425 jlumby(a)mnvoip.com

Dec. 8, 2025

Please welcome AS215248 to MICE!

by Jeremy Lumby

Name: AS215248 Switch: NOCIX Ports: E 5/23 ASN: 215248 IPv4: 206.108.255.69/24 IPv6: 2001:504:27:0:3:48D0::1/64 Peering Contact: b(a)stiaanbr.ink Route Servers: YES Welcome Aboard! Jeremy Lumby Minnesota VoIP 9217 17th Ave S #216 Bloomington, MN 55425 Main: 612-355-7740 Direct: 612-392-6814 Fax: 952-873-7425 jlumby(a)mnvoip.com

Dec. 8, 2025

RE: Please welcome Pierce Pepin to MICE!

by Jeremy Lumby

Just a quick note when I sent the welcome email, the copy to your peering address bounced back. You may want to double check that that email address is set up properly. Jeremy Lumby Minnesota VoIP 9217 17th Ave S Suite 216 Bloomington MN 55425 Main 612-355-7740 Direct 612-392-6814 EFax 952-873-7425 jlumby(a)mnvoip.com -------- Original message -------- From: Aaron Flaugh <aflaugh(a)piercepepin.coop> Date: 11/11/25 10:57 AM (GMT-06:00) To: Jeremy Lumby <jlumby(a)mnvoip.com>, MICE Discuss <mice-discuss(a)lists.micemn.net> Subject: Re: Please welcome Pierce Pepin to MICE! _____ From : Aaron Flaugh [aflaugh(a)piercepepin.coop] To : Jeremy Lumby [jlumby(a)mnvoip.com] MICE Discuss [mice-discuss(a)lists.micemn.net] Date : Tuesday, November 11 2025 10:57:11 Hello Jeremy, Thank you for all of your help setting up our connection to MICE. We look forward on getting our configuration enabled in the near future. Aaron Flaugh Network/IT Manager PIERCE PEPIN COOPERATIVE SERVICES W7725 US Highway 10, PO Box 420 Ellsworth, WI 54011 Direct Line: 715-273-2408 Fax: 715-273-4476 Follow PPCS: Facebook <https://www.facebook.com/PiercePepinCoop> / Instagram <https://www.instagram.com/piercepepincoop> / X <https://twitter.com/PiercePepinCoop> / Website <https://www.piercepepin.coop/> Follow SwiftCurrent: Facebook <https://www.facebook.com/swiftcurrentconnect> / Instagram <https://www.instagram.com/swiftcurrentconnect> / Website <https://www.swiftcurrent.coop/> _____ From: Jeremy Lumby <jlumby(a)mnvoip.com> Sent: Monday, November 10, 2025 8:05 PM To: 'MICE Discuss' <mice-discuss(a)lists.micemn.net> Subject: Please welcome Pierce Pepin to MICE! CAUTION: This email originated from outside of PPCS. Do not click links or open attachments unless you recognize the sender and know the content is safe. Name: Pierce Pepin Cooperative Services Switch: MICE Core 511-100G 7504 Ports: E 6/7/1 ASN: 400268 IPv4: 206.108.255.41/24 IPv6: 2001:504:27:0:6:1B8C::1/64 Peering Contact: peering(a)piercepepin.coop Route Servers: Yes Welcome Aboard! Jeremy Lumby Minnesota VoIP 9217 17th Ave S #216 Bloomington, MN 55425 Main: 612-355-7740 Direct: 612-392-6814 Fax: 952-873-7425 jlumby(a)mnvoip.com

Nov. 11, 2025

Please welcome Pierce Pepin to MICE!

by Jeremy Lumby

Name: Pierce Pepin Cooperative Services Switch: MICE Core 511-100G 7504 Ports: E 6/7/1 ASN: 400268 IPv4: 206.108.255.41/24 IPv6: 2001:504:27:0:6:1B8C::1/64 Peering Contact: peering(a)piercepepin.coop Route Servers: Yes Welcome Aboard! Jeremy Lumby Minnesota VoIP 9217 17th Ave S #216 Bloomington, MN 55425 Main: 612-355-7740 Direct: 612-392-6814 Fax: 952-873-7425 jlumby(a)mnvoip.com

Nov. 11, 2025

RE: Anyone else seeing instability to MICE route reflector #2

by Frank Bulk

Our BGP with rs2 has been stable since last week Friday’s bounce, rs1 has been good since it was upgraded earlier today. Thanks, Frank [cid:premiercomm_logo_cmyk_thick_4b24da0e-a829-42f3-ba49-f303951df775.png] Frank Bulk Chief Technology Officer / Chief Operating Officer From: Richard Laager via mice-discuss <mice-discuss(a)lists.micemn.net> Sent: Monday, October 27, 2025 2:47 PM To: mice-discuss(a)lists.micemn.net Subject: Re: Anyone else seeing instability to MICE route reflector #2 Any word since the upgrade of rs2? -- Richard

Oct. 28, 2025

Re: Anyone else seeing instability to MICE route reflector #2

by Richard Laager

Any word since the upgrade of rs2? -- Richard

Oct. 27, 2025

Re: MICE RS2 Bird Update

by Jay Hanke

The hold-time expiration issues some members were having. On Mon, Oct 27, 2025 at 2:06 PM Richard Laager <rlaager(a)wiktel.com> wrote: > > scanner? > > On 2025-10-27 13:47, Jay Hanke wrote: > > Did the upgrade on RS2 affect the scanner issue? > > On Mon, Oct 27, 2025 at 1:03 PM Richard Laager via mice-discuss > <mice-discuss(a)lists.micemn.net> wrote: > > I just finished upgrading rs1. > > -- > Richard > > _______________________________________________ > mice-discuss mailing list -- mice-discuss(a)lists.micemn.net > To unsubscribe send an email to mice-discuss-leave(a)lists.micemn.net > > > -- > Richard

Oct. 27, 2025

Re: MICE RS2 Bird Update

by Richard Laager

scanner? On 2025-10-27 13:47, Jay Hanke wrote: > Did the upgrade on RS2 affect the scanner issue? > > On Mon, Oct 27, 2025 at 1:03 PM Richard Laager via mice-discuss > <mice-discuss(a)lists.micemn.net> wrote: >> I just finished upgrading rs1. >> >> -- >> Richard >> >> _______________________________________________ >> mice-discuss mailing list --mice-discuss(a)lists.micemn.net >> To unsubscribe send an email tomice-discuss-leave(a)lists.micemn.net -- Richard

Oct. 27, 2025

Re: MICE RS2 Bird Update

by Jay Hanke

Did the upgrade on RS2 affect the scanner issue? On Mon, Oct 27, 2025 at 1:03 PM Richard Laager via mice-discuss <mice-discuss(a)lists.micemn.net> wrote: > > I just finished upgrading rs1. > > -- > Richard > > _______________________________________________ > mice-discuss mailing list -- mice-discuss(a)lists.micemn.net > To unsubscribe send an email to mice-discuss-leave(a)lists.micemn.net

Oct. 27, 2025

Re: MICE RS2 Bird Update

by Richard Laager

I just finished upgrading rs1. -- Richard

Oct. 27, 2025

Re: MICE RS2 Bird Update

by Andrew Hoyos

Hi folks, Just wanted to confirm a time for today this upgrade on rs1 will happen? Given the upgrade didn’t happen Friday, we just shutdown sessions to rs1 to avoid flapping BGP sessions (and alerts) all weekend. Andrew Hoyos hoyosa(a)gmail.com > On Oct 24, 2025, at 21:48, Richard Laager via mice-discuss <mice-discuss(a)lists.micemn.net> wrote: > > I see the same number of sessions active on rs1 and rs2. So unless I'm missing something, it seems like the issue is no longer active. So at this point, I'd rather wait until Monday to update rs1. > -- > Richard > _______________________________________________ > mice-discuss mailing list -- mice-discuss(a)lists.micemn.net > To unsubscribe send an email to mice-discuss-leave(a)lists.micemn.net

Oct. 27, 2025

Re: MICE RS2 Bird Update

by Jay Hanke

HE filltered the route with the invalid attribute. On Fri, Oct 24, 2025, 9:54 PM Richard Laager via mice-discuss < mice-discuss(a)lists.micemn.net> wrote: > I see the same number of sessions active on rs1 and rs2. So unless I'm > missing something, it seems like the issue is no longer active. So at this > point, I'd rather wait until Monday to update rs1. > > -- > Richard > > _______________________________________________ > mice-discuss mailing list -- mice-discuss(a)lists.micemn.net > To unsubscribe send an email to mice-discuss-leave(a)lists.micemn.net >

Oct. 25, 2025

Re: MICE RS2 Bird Update

by Richard Laager

I see the same number of sessions active on rs1 and rs2. So unless I'm missing something, it seems like the issue is no longer active. So at this point, I'd rather wait until Monday to update rs1. -- Richard

Oct. 25, 2025

Re: MICE RS2 Bird Update

by Mike Horwath

On Fri, Oct 24, 2025 at 08:52:37PM +0000, Shawn Rasmussen via mice-discuss wrote: > Unless there is an emergency level condition on RS1, I'd prefer if > it was left alone for the weekend. RS1 has been stable for us, while > RS2 has not been. I'd hate to have the stable RS break over the > weekend. 100% agree And changes on a friday?! Nah, dawg. -- Mike Horwath, reachable via drechsau(a)Geeks.ORG

Oct. 24, 2025

RE: MICE RS2 Bird Update

by Shawn Rasmussen

Unless there is an emergency level condition on RS1, I'd prefer if it was left alone for the weekend. RS1 has been stable for us, while RS2 has not been. I'd hate to have the stable RS break over the weekend. Shawn Rasmussen -----Original Message----- From: Jay Hanke via mice-discuss <mice-discuss(a)lists.micemn.net> Sent: Friday, October 24, 2025 3:43 PM To: Michael Hare <michael.hare(a)wisc.edu> Cc: Andrew Hoyos <hoyosa(a)gmail.com>; Richard Laager <rlaager(a)wiktel.com>; mice-discuss(a)lists.micemn.net Subject: Re: MICE RS2 Bird Update CAUTION: This email originated from outside CTC. Do not open links or attachments unless you are expecting this message and know they are safe. I think we should do RS1 as well assuming the refresh worked without issue on RS2. j On Fri, Oct 24, 2025 at 2:29 PM Michael Hare via mice-discuss <mice-discuss(a)lists.micemn.net> wrote: > > I’m fine either way, but the counterpoint to Andrew’s comment is that if an ASN is affected [25%], has chosen not to upgrade yet [I’m in that boat], peered with both RS and doing next-hop-self, service impacts should be negligible other than annoying syslogs or perhaps undo burden on RS1 while things are in this state. > > > > It doesn’t seem like there are too many MICE members vocal about this within the last 24 hours so I’m not sure I would great it as an emergency. I wouldn’t upgrade both members of a redundancy pair essentially at the same time unless there was a critical impact to services. I’d hate to be the guy that says “update RS1 right now” and then things go south on both this weekend. > > > > -Michael > > > > From: Andrew Hoyos <hoyosa(a)gmail.com> > Sent: Friday, October 24, 2025 1:58 PM > To: Richard Laager <rlaager(a)wiktel.com> > Cc: mice-discuss(a)lists.micemn.net > Subject: Re: MICE RS2 Bird Update > > > > I’d be all for pushing updates to RS1 as well, and an alert/alarm free > weekend :) > > > > Andrew Hoyos > > hoyosa(a)gmail.com > > > > > > > > On Oct 24, 2025, at 12:51, Richard Laager via mice-discuss <mice-discuss(a)lists.micemn.net> wrote: > > > > I updated rs2. For IPv4, there are 40 more sessions up now than before the upgrade, so this clearly helped with the BGP attribute issue that's going on right now. > > Opinions on whether I should upgrade rs1 sooner (i.e. today) vs waiting until Monday, given the active issue? At a minimum, I'll wait a few hours to ensure rs2 is stable. > > On 2025-10-24 10:08, Jay Hanke via mice-discuss wrote: > > MICE will be upgrading BIRD on RS2 (Ridgeview) at 12:00 PM Central > time today to resolve the malformed BGP update issues causing flapping > BGP sessions. > We expect the upgrade to be less than 30 minutes. All sessions to RS2 > will drop during this time. Sessions to RS1 will be unaffected. > MICE is planning to apply the same patch to RS1 (511) on Monday. > > > -- > Richard > _______________________________________________ > mice-discuss mailing list -- mice-discuss(a)lists.micemn.net To > unsubscribe send an email to mice-discuss-leave(a)lists.micemn.net > > > > _______________________________________________ > mice-discuss mailing list -- mice-discuss(a)lists.micemn.net To > unsubscribe send an email to mice-discuss-leave(a)lists.micemn.net _______________________________________________ mice-discuss mailing list -- mice-discuss(a)lists.micemn.net To unsubscribe send an email to mice-discuss-leave(a)lists.micemn.net

Oct. 24, 2025

Re: MICE RS2 Bird Update

by Jay Hanke

I think we should do RS1 as well assuming the refresh worked without issue on RS2. j On Fri, Oct 24, 2025 at 2:29 PM Michael Hare via mice-discuss <mice-discuss(a)lists.micemn.net> wrote: > > I’m fine either way, but the counterpoint to Andrew’s comment is that if an ASN is affected [25%], has chosen not to upgrade yet [I’m in that boat], peered with both RS and doing next-hop-self, service impacts should be negligible other than annoying syslogs or perhaps undo burden on RS1 while things are in this state. > > > > It doesn’t seem like there are too many MICE members vocal about this within the last 24 hours so I’m not sure I would great it as an emergency. I wouldn’t upgrade both members of a redundancy pair essentially at the same time unless there was a critical impact to services. I’d hate to be the guy that says “update RS1 right now” and then things go south on both this weekend. > > > > -Michael > > > > From: Andrew Hoyos <hoyosa(a)gmail.com> > Sent: Friday, October 24, 2025 1:58 PM > To: Richard Laager <rlaager(a)wiktel.com> > Cc: mice-discuss(a)lists.micemn.net > Subject: Re: MICE RS2 Bird Update > > > > I’d be all for pushing updates to RS1 as well, and an alert/alarm free weekend :) > > > > Andrew Hoyos > > hoyosa(a)gmail.com > > > > > > > > On Oct 24, 2025, at 12:51, Richard Laager via mice-discuss <mice-discuss(a)lists.micemn.net> wrote: > > > > I updated rs2. For IPv4, there are 40 more sessions up now than before the upgrade, so this clearly helped with the BGP attribute issue that's going on right now. > > Opinions on whether I should upgrade rs1 sooner (i.e. today) vs waiting until Monday, given the active issue? At a minimum, I'll wait a few hours to ensure rs2 is stable. > > On 2025-10-24 10:08, Jay Hanke via mice-discuss wrote: > > MICE will be upgrading BIRD on RS2 (Ridgeview) at 12:00 PM Central > time today to resolve the malformed BGP update issues causing flapping > BGP sessions. > We expect the upgrade to be less than 30 minutes. All sessions to RS2 > will drop during this time. Sessions to RS1 will be unaffected. > MICE is planning to apply the same patch to RS1 (511) on Monday. > > > -- > Richard > _______________________________________________ > mice-discuss mailing list -- mice-discuss(a)lists.micemn.net > To unsubscribe send an email to mice-discuss-leave(a)lists.micemn.net > > > > _______________________________________________ > mice-discuss mailing list -- mice-discuss(a)lists.micemn.net > To unsubscribe send an email to mice-discuss-leave(a)lists.micemn.net

Oct. 24, 2025

RE: MICE RS2 Bird Update

by Michael Hare

I’m fine either way, but the counterpoint to Andrew’s comment is that if an ASN is affected [25%], has chosen not to upgrade yet [I’m in that boat], peered with both RS and doing next-hop-self, service impacts should be negligible other than annoying syslogs or perhaps undo burden on RS1 while things are in this state. It doesn’t seem like there are too many MICE members vocal about this within the last 24 hours so I’m not sure I would great it as an emergency. I wouldn’t upgrade both members of a redundancy pair essentially at the same time unless there was a critical impact to services. I’d hate to be the guy that says “update RS1 right now” and then things go south on both this weekend. -Michael From: Andrew Hoyos <hoyosa(a)gmail.com> Sent: Friday, October 24, 2025 1:58 PM To: Richard Laager <rlaager(a)wiktel.com> Cc: mice-discuss(a)lists.micemn.net Subject: Re: MICE RS2 Bird Update I’d be all for pushing updates to RS1 as well, and an alert/alarm free weekend :) Andrew Hoyos hoyosa(a)gmail.com<mailto:hoyosa@gmail.com> On Oct 24, 2025, at 12:51, Richard Laager via mice-discuss <mice-discuss(a)lists.micemn.net<mailto:mice-discuss@lists.micemn.net>> wrote: I updated rs2. For IPv4, there are 40 more sessions up now than before the upgrade, so this clearly helped with the BGP attribute issue that's going on right now. Opinions on whether I should upgrade rs1 sooner (i.e. today) vs waiting until Monday, given the active issue? At a minimum, I'll wait a few hours to ensure rs2 is stable. On 2025-10-24 10:08, Jay Hanke via mice-discuss wrote: MICE will be upgrading BIRD on RS2 (Ridgeview) at 12:00 PM Central time today to resolve the malformed BGP update issues causing flapping BGP sessions. We expect the upgrade to be less than 30 minutes. All sessions to RS2 will drop during this time. Sessions to RS1 will be unaffected. MICE is planning to apply the same patch to RS1 (511) on Monday. -- Richard _______________________________________________ mice-discuss mailing list -- mice-discuss(a)lists.micemn.net<mailto:mice-discuss@lists.micemn.net> To unsubscribe send an email to mice-discuss-leave(a)lists.micemn.net<mailto:mice-discuss-leave@lists.micemn.net>

Oct. 24, 2025

Re: MICE RS2 Bird Update

by Andrew Hoyos

I’d be all for pushing updates to RS1 as well, and an alert/alarm free weekend :) Andrew Hoyos hoyosa(a)gmail.com > On Oct 24, 2025, at 12:51, Richard Laager via mice-discuss <mice-discuss(a)lists.micemn.net> wrote: > > I updated rs2. For IPv4, there are 40 more sessions up now than before the upgrade, so this clearly helped with the BGP attribute issue that's going on right now. > > Opinions on whether I should upgrade rs1 sooner (i.e. today) vs waiting until Monday, given the active issue? At a minimum, I'll wait a few hours to ensure rs2 is stable. > > On 2025-10-24 10:08, Jay Hanke via mice-discuss wrote: >> MICE will be upgrading BIRD on RS2 (Ridgeview) at 12:00 PM Central >> time today to resolve the malformed BGP update issues causing flapping >> BGP sessions. >> We expect the upgrade to be less than 30 minutes. All sessions to RS2 >> will drop during this time. Sessions to RS1 will be unaffected. >> MICE is planning to apply the same patch to RS1 (511) on Monday. > > -- > Richard > _______________________________________________ > mice-discuss mailing list -- mice-discuss(a)lists.micemn.net > To unsubscribe send an email to mice-discuss-leave(a)lists.micemn.net

Oct. 24, 2025

Re: Anyone else seeing instability to MICE route reflector #2

by Richard Laager

Let's see if the BIRD upgrade fixes this. It was suggested on the IXP Manager list that newer BIRD might fix this. If it does not, then I'd recommend you try raising your timers (if you haven't already). At a minimum, we should do that as a test. If it works, then that's probably at least a workaround. I'm hoping that BIRD 3 (which is multithreaded) will fix this, but IXP Manager doesn't support BIRD 3 yet (as they don't consider it production ready, though no reasons were given). On 2025-10-23 22:40, Frank Bulk wrote: > > We’re doing 10/30 against the two route servers. > -- Richard Laager Chief Manager, Director Midwest Internet Cooperative Exchange LLC

Oct. 24, 2025

Re: v6 on rs1/rs2 fubar?

by Richard Laager

On 2025-10-24 08:40, Mike Horwath wrote: > On Thu, Oct 23, 2025 at 05:50:22PM -0500, Richard Laager via mice-discuss wrote: >> MICE is running Ubuntu 22.04, which has BIRD 2.0.8. In a few months, we can >> upgrade to 26.04 when it comes out, which will have at least BIRD 2.17.1 >> (which is the current release right now). > > why not just do-release-upgrade to 24.04 and snag the newerver version > that way? As a general rule, I don't upgrade* production systems in place. To upgrade, I build a new VM, configure it (using Ansible), test, then cut over. This allows for more testing before going live, preserves the option to revert to the old VM as it was, generally reduces the downtime of the upgrade, forces/proves you have everything in Ansible, etc. It is more work, though. But not a lot more work, when it's VMs and configurations in Ansible. In this specific case, upgrading to 24.04 is also more heavy handed and more work than we need. We just need newer BIRD. As it turns out (Barry from IXP Manager pointed this out), the BIRD team has repositories for Ubuntu (and Debian) with newer versions available: https://pkg.labs.nic.cz/doc/?project=bird So I just used that. That was super easy, and it also means we can stay current on BIRD on an ongoing basis. * I'm using the word "upgrade" to indicate moving to a new distro, as opposed to "update" to indicate applying security patches. I imagine full devops would be to rebuild the whole thing (probably using containers) every time, even for patches. -- Richard

Oct. 24, 2025

Re: MICE RS2 Bird Update

by Richard Laager

I updated rs2. For IPv4, there are 40 more sessions up now than before the upgrade, so this clearly helped with the BGP attribute issue that's going on right now. Opinions on whether I should upgrade rs1 sooner (i.e. today) vs waiting until Monday, given the active issue? At a minimum, I'll wait a few hours to ensure rs2 is stable. On 2025-10-24 10:08, Jay Hanke via mice-discuss wrote: > MICE will be upgrading BIRD on RS2 (Ridgeview) at 12:00 PM Central > time today to resolve the malformed BGP update issues causing flapping > BGP sessions. > > We expect the upgrade to be less than 30 minutes. All sessions to RS2 > will drop during this time. Sessions to RS1 will be unaffected. > > MICE is planning to apply the same patch to RS1 (511) on Monday. -- Richard

Oct. 24, 2025

MICE RS2 Bird Update

by Jay Hanke

MICE will be upgrading BIRD on RS2 (Ridgeview) at 12:00 PM Central time today to resolve the malformed BGP update issues causing flapping BGP sessions. We expect the upgrade to be less than 30 minutes. All sessions to RS2 will drop during this time. Sessions to RS1 will be unaffected. MICE is planning to apply the same patch to RS1 (511) on Monday. -- Jay Hanke, President South Front Networks jayhanke(a)southfront.io Phone 507-327-2398 https://southfront.io/

Oct. 24, 2025

Re: v6 on rs1/rs2 fubar?

by Jay Hanke

It looks like up to ~25% of the networks attached to the route server are affected. I'm showing about 60 sessions down/flapping. On Fri, Oct 24, 2025 at 9:18 AM Michael Hare <michael.hare(a)wisc.edu> wrote: > > Jay, > > Thanks. To be super clear, I don't want anyone jumping through hoops they otherwise would not on behalf of AS3128. It's pretty obvious this is the new norm at this point. > > FWIW, the main reason I haven't pushed a corrected version of JunOS [yet] > > 1] My target version is affected by Juniper TSB103739.. So I have another case open on that. > 2] We're fortunate to have other options for where traffic is going + five minute holddown timers = churn is not exceptionally impacting > > -Michael > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Jay Hanke <jayhanke(a)southfront.io> > > Sent: Friday, October 24, 2025 9:06 AM > > To: Michael Hare <michael.hare(a)wisc.edu> > > Cc: Mike Horwath <drechsau(a)geeks.org>; Richard Laager > > <rlaager(a)wiktel.com>; mice-discuss(a)lists.micemn.net > > Subject: Re: v6 on rs1/rs2 fubar? > > > > I have a ticket open with HE asking for filters. HE#6787436 > > > > On Fri, Oct 24, 2025 at 8:51 AM Michael Hare via mice-discuss > > <mice-discuss(a)lists.micemn.net> wrote: > > > > > > I don't want to jeopardize the IX, but I'm game for whatever people are > > comfortable with. > > > > > > Cool story, as of writing, there is an event going on =right now= for > > 139.64.160.0/22 since roughly 01:04 local > > > > > > -Michael > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > > From: Mike Horwath <drechsau(a)geeks.org> > > > > Sent: Friday, October 24, 2025 8:40 AM > > > > To: Richard Laager <rlaager(a)wiktel.com> > > > > Cc: mice-discuss(a)lists.micemn.net > > > > Subject: Re: v6 on rs1/rs2 fubar? > > > > > > > > On Thu, Oct 23, 2025 at 05:50:22PM -0500, Richard Laager via mice- > > discuss > > > > wrote: > > > > > MICE is running Ubuntu 22.04, which has BIRD 2.0.8. In a few months, > > we > > > > can > > > > > upgrade to 26.04 when it comes out, which will have at least BIRD 2.17.1 > > > > > (which is the current release right now). > > > > > > > > why not just do-release-upgrade to 24.04 and snag the newerver version > > > > that way? > > > > > > > > > I could attempt to rebuild the BIRD 2.17.1 package on Ubuntu 22.04. > > Then > > > > we > > > > > could see if that helps. > > > > > > > > This is not the devops way, baby! > > > > > > > > -- > > > > Mike Horwath, reachable via drechsau(a)Geeks.ORG > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > > mice-discuss mailing list -- mice-discuss(a)lists.micemn.net > > > > To unsubscribe send an email to mice-discuss-leave(a)lists.micemn.net > > > _______________________________________________ > > > mice-discuss mailing list -- mice-discuss(a)lists.micemn.net > > > To unsubscribe send an email to mice-discuss-leave(a)lists.micemn.net

Oct. 24, 2025

RE: v6 on rs1/rs2 fubar?

by Michael Hare

Jay, Thanks. To be super clear, I don't want anyone jumping through hoops they otherwise would not on behalf of AS3128. It's pretty obvious this is the new norm at this point. FWIW, the main reason I haven't pushed a corrected version of JunOS [yet] 1] My target version is affected by Juniper TSB103739.. So I have another case open on that. 2] We're fortunate to have other options for where traffic is going + five minute holddown timers = churn is not exceptionally impacting -Michael > -----Original Message----- > From: Jay Hanke <jayhanke(a)southfront.io> > Sent: Friday, October 24, 2025 9:06 AM > To: Michael Hare <michael.hare(a)wisc.edu> > Cc: Mike Horwath <drechsau(a)geeks.org>; Richard Laager > <rlaager(a)wiktel.com>; mice-discuss(a)lists.micemn.net > Subject: Re: v6 on rs1/rs2 fubar? > > I have a ticket open with HE asking for filters. HE#6787436 > > On Fri, Oct 24, 2025 at 8:51 AM Michael Hare via mice-discuss > <mice-discuss(a)lists.micemn.net> wrote: > > > > I don't want to jeopardize the IX, but I'm game for whatever people are > comfortable with. > > > > Cool story, as of writing, there is an event going on =right now= for > 139.64.160.0/22 since roughly 01:04 local > > > > -Michael > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > From: Mike Horwath <drechsau(a)geeks.org> > > > Sent: Friday, October 24, 2025 8:40 AM > > > To: Richard Laager <rlaager(a)wiktel.com> > > > Cc: mice-discuss(a)lists.micemn.net > > > Subject: Re: v6 on rs1/rs2 fubar? > > > > > > On Thu, Oct 23, 2025 at 05:50:22PM -0500, Richard Laager via mice- > discuss > > > wrote: > > > > MICE is running Ubuntu 22.04, which has BIRD 2.0.8. In a few months, > we > > > can > > > > upgrade to 26.04 when it comes out, which will have at least BIRD 2.17.1 > > > > (which is the current release right now). > > > > > > why not just do-release-upgrade to 24.04 and snag the newerver version > > > that way? > > > > > > > I could attempt to rebuild the BIRD 2.17.1 package on Ubuntu 22.04. > Then > > > we > > > > could see if that helps. > > > > > > This is not the devops way, baby! > > > > > > -- > > > Mike Horwath, reachable via drechsau(a)Geeks.ORG > > > _______________________________________________ > > > mice-discuss mailing list -- mice-discuss(a)lists.micemn.net > > > To unsubscribe send an email to mice-discuss-leave(a)lists.micemn.net > > _______________________________________________ > > mice-discuss mailing list -- mice-discuss(a)lists.micemn.net > > To unsubscribe send an email to mice-discuss-leave(a)lists.micemn.net

Oct. 24, 2025

Re: v6 on rs1/rs2 fubar?

by Jay Hanke

I have a ticket open with HE asking for filters. HE#6787436 On Fri, Oct 24, 2025 at 8:51 AM Michael Hare via mice-discuss <mice-discuss(a)lists.micemn.net> wrote: > > I don't want to jeopardize the IX, but I'm game for whatever people are comfortable with. > > Cool story, as of writing, there is an event going on =right now= for 139.64.160.0/22 since roughly 01:04 local > > -Michael > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Mike Horwath <drechsau(a)geeks.org> > > Sent: Friday, October 24, 2025 8:40 AM > > To: Richard Laager <rlaager(a)wiktel.com> > > Cc: mice-discuss(a)lists.micemn.net > > Subject: Re: v6 on rs1/rs2 fubar? > > > > On Thu, Oct 23, 2025 at 05:50:22PM -0500, Richard Laager via mice-discuss > > wrote: > > > MICE is running Ubuntu 22.04, which has BIRD 2.0.8. In a few months, we > > can > > > upgrade to 26.04 when it comes out, which will have at least BIRD 2.17.1 > > > (which is the current release right now). > > > > why not just do-release-upgrade to 24.04 and snag the newerver version > > that way? > > > > > I could attempt to rebuild the BIRD 2.17.1 package on Ubuntu 22.04. Then > > we > > > could see if that helps. > > > > This is not the devops way, baby! > > > > -- > > Mike Horwath, reachable via drechsau(a)Geeks.ORG > > _______________________________________________ > > mice-discuss mailing list -- mice-discuss(a)lists.micemn.net > > To unsubscribe send an email to mice-discuss-leave(a)lists.micemn.net > _______________________________________________ > mice-discuss mailing list -- mice-discuss(a)lists.micemn.net > To unsubscribe send an email to mice-discuss-leave(a)lists.micemn.net

Oct. 24, 2025

RE: v6 on rs1/rs2 fubar?

by Michael Hare

I don't want to jeopardize the IX, but I'm game for whatever people are comfortable with. Cool story, as of writing, there is an event going on =right now= for 139.64.160.0/22 since roughly 01:04 local -Michael > -----Original Message----- > From: Mike Horwath <drechsau(a)geeks.org> > Sent: Friday, October 24, 2025 8:40 AM > To: Richard Laager <rlaager(a)wiktel.com> > Cc: mice-discuss(a)lists.micemn.net > Subject: Re: v6 on rs1/rs2 fubar? > > On Thu, Oct 23, 2025 at 05:50:22PM -0500, Richard Laager via mice-discuss > wrote: > > MICE is running Ubuntu 22.04, which has BIRD 2.0.8. In a few months, we > can > > upgrade to 26.04 when it comes out, which will have at least BIRD 2.17.1 > > (which is the current release right now). > > why not just do-release-upgrade to 24.04 and snag the newerver version > that way? > > > I could attempt to rebuild the BIRD 2.17.1 package on Ubuntu 22.04. Then > we > > could see if that helps. > > This is not the devops way, baby! > > -- > Mike Horwath, reachable via drechsau(a)Geeks.ORG > _______________________________________________ > mice-discuss mailing list -- mice-discuss(a)lists.micemn.net > To unsubscribe send an email to mice-discuss-leave(a)lists.micemn.net

Oct. 24, 2025

Re: v6 on rs1/rs2 fubar?

by Mike Horwath

On Thu, Oct 23, 2025 at 05:50:22PM -0500, Richard Laager via mice-discuss wrote: > MICE is running Ubuntu 22.04, which has BIRD 2.0.8. In a few months, we can > upgrade to 26.04 when it comes out, which will have at least BIRD 2.17.1 > (which is the current release right now). why not just do-release-upgrade to 24.04 and snag the newerver version that way? > I could attempt to rebuild the BIRD 2.17.1 package on Ubuntu 22.04. Then we > could see if that helps. This is not the devops way, baby! -- Mike Horwath, reachable via drechsau(a)Geeks.ORG

Oct. 24, 2025

RE: v6 on rs1/rs2 fubar?

by Frank Bulk

Thanks, really appreciate it. Frank [cid:a1ff5d57-4afc-4ec0-be61-51708bf94a4e.png] Frank Bulk Chief Technology Officer / Chief Operating Officer [cid:premiercomm_logo_cmyk_1388ffcb-8ec0-4842-9e40-a0e598482e7d.png] 339 1st Ave NE | Sioux Center, IA 51250 | Find us on Facebook<https://www.facebook.com/PremierCommunicationsSiouxCenter> phone: 712.722.3451 web: mypremieronline.com<https://www.mypremieronline.com/> direct: (712) 722-7152 cell: (712) 441-6049 From: Richard Laager via mice-discuss <mice-discuss(a)lists.micemn.net> Sent: Thursday, October 23, 2025 9:42 PM To: mice-discuss(a)lists.micemn.net Subject: Re: v6 on rs1/rs2 fubar? I've built 2.17.1 for 22.04. I'm thinking we'll upgrade BIRD on rs2 tomorrow noon-ish, and apply regular updates while we are at it. It might help with the timeouts we are seeing there. Regardless, as long as it's not worse, then next week (tentatively Monday), we can upgrade BIRD on rs1. -- Richard

Oct. 24, 2025