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Re: FYI: Hurricane Electric changed to 10Gig

by Jeremy Lumby

Do I remember correctly that in the early days, Akamai did not want to be fed across the exchange? Am I mistaken, or has something changed? I assumed this was the reason for the direct fiber cross connect to USI. From: MICE Discuss [mailto:MICE-DISCUSS@LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET] On Behalf Of Jay Hanke Sent: Sunday, October 30, 2011 11:32 AM To: MICE-DISCUSS(a)LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET Subject: Re: [MICE-DISCUSS] FYI: Hurricane Electric changed to 10Gig You would allow the akamai block out to your upstreams. I think the balancing magic would be to have several carriers open up 1 upstream spreading the load. On Oct 30, 2011 11:26 AM, "Mike Horwath" <drechsau(a)iphouse.net> wrote: Provider independent addressing would sure be fun here... So, let's say I wanna pump in some bandwidth, how do I? Assume I'm an idiot. -- Mike Horwath via iPad 2, electric boogaloo! ######################################################################## To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1 To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1 ######################################################################## To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1

Oct. 30, 2011

Re: FYI: Hurricane Electric changed to 10Gig

by Jeremy Berg

On Oct 30, 2011, at 11:26 AM, Mike Horwath <drechsau(a)IPHOUSE.NET> wrote: > Assume I'm an idiot. Not hard to do. ;-p ######################################################################## To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1

Oct. 30, 2011

Re: FYI: Hurricane Electric changed to 10Gig

by Jay Hanke

You would allow the akamai block out to your upstreams. I think the balancing magic would be to have several carriers open up 1 upstream spreading the load. On Oct 30, 2011 11:26 AM, "Mike Horwath" <drechsau(a)iphouse.net> wrote: > Provider independent addressing would sure be fun here... > > So, let's say I wanna pump in some bandwidth, how do I? > > Assume I'm an idiot. > > -- > Mike Horwath via iPad 2, electric boogaloo! > ######################################################################## > > To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: > http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1 > ######################################################################## To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1

Oct. 30, 2011

Re: FYI: Hurricane Electric changed to 10Gig

by Mike Horwath

Provider independent addressing would sure be fun here... So, let's say I wanna pump in some bandwidth, how do I? Assume I'm an idiot. -- Mike Horwath via iPad 2, electric boogaloo! ######################################################################## To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1

Oct. 30, 2011

Re: FYI: Hurricane Electric changed to 10Gig

by Jay Hanke

I think the cap is global. So the only way to vary the load would be bgp magic. Jay On Oct 30, 2011 10:59 AM, "Mike Wilker" <mwilker(a)jagcom.net> wrote: > Are different providers able to contribute varied amounts of bandwidth to > the pool? > > > Mike Wilker > Chief Technical Officer > Jaguar Communications > 507-214-0259 > mwilker(a)jagcom.net > > > > On Sun, Oct 30, 2011 at 10:52 AM, Justin Krejci <jkrejci(a)usinternet.com>wrote: > >> Dave is getting that ball rolling already on his side. So I think by >> Monday we should be able to take a look and do any AS padding or other >> tuning if necessary and then have Marty open it back up again to full speed. >> >> >> ------Original Message------ >> From: Jay Hanke >> Sender: MICE Discuss >> To: MICE-DISCUSS(a)LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET >> ReplyTo: MICE Discuss >> Subject: Re: [MICE-DISCUSS] FYI: Hurricane Electric changed to 10Gig >> Sent: Oct 30, 2011 10:32 AM >> >> On Sun, Oct 30, 2011 at 10:29 AM, Mike Wilker <mwilker(a)jagcom.net> wrote: >> > The last I saw from Mr. Farmer was that they were talking to Akamai >> about >> > the UofM providing the needed bandwidth. Should we be waiting for the >> > results of that before seeing about other members chipping in? >> >> Dave is planning to open up some of their peering connections to help. >> We're going to need more to keep up with growth even if the new >> connection offloads 50%, we're still just about full. >> >> Jay >> >> ######################################################################## >> >> To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: >> http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1 >> >> >> ######################################################################## >> >> To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: >> http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1 >> > > > ------------------------------ > > To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: > http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1 > ######################################################################## To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1

Oct. 30, 2011

Re: FYI: Hurricane Electric changed to 10Gig

by Justin Krejci

We were pulling close to 600 mbps when it was fully uncapped which I think was yielding close to 3x in output rates from the cluster. ------Original Message------ From: Jay Hanke Sender: MICE Discuss To: MICE-DISCUSS(a)LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET ReplyTo: MICE Discuss Subject: Re: [MICE-DISCUSS] FYI: Hurricane Electric changed to 10Gig Sent: Oct 30, 2011 11:00 AM On Sun, Oct 30, 2011 at 10:54 AM, Mike Horwath <drechsau(a)iphouse.net> wrote: > How much is required? > > How much is wanted? We've been at (or over?) 500 Mb/s of cache fill. We've got a commit for 250 Mb/s from USI + the U peering. Depending on how much offload the U provides we're either full or just about full. I think we need to get to about 1 Gb/s total split between 2-4 carriers. That would give us some breathing room up to about 4 Gb/s of Akamai traffic. Jay ######################################################################## To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1 ######################################################################## To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1

Oct. 30, 2011

Re: FYI: Hurricane Electric changed to 10Gig

by Jay Hanke

On Sun, Oct 30, 2011 at 10:54 AM, Mike Horwath <drechsau(a)iphouse.net> wrote: > How much is required? > > How much is wanted? We've been at (or over?) 500 Mb/s of cache fill. We've got a commit for 250 Mb/s from USI + the U peering. Depending on how much offload the U provides we're either full or just about full. I think we need to get to about 1 Gb/s total split between 2-4 carriers. That would give us some breathing room up to about 4 Gb/s of Akamai traffic. Jay ######################################################################## To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1

Oct. 30, 2011

Re: FYI: Hurricane Electric changed to 10Gig

by Mike Wilker

Are different providers able to contribute varied amounts of bandwidth to the pool? Mike Wilker Chief Technical Officer Jaguar Communications 507-214-0259 mwilker(a)jagcom.net On Sun, Oct 30, 2011 at 10:52 AM, Justin Krejci <jkrejci(a)usinternet.com>wrote: > Dave is getting that ball rolling already on his side. So I think by > Monday we should be able to take a look and do any AS padding or other > tuning if necessary and then have Marty open it back up again to full speed. > > > ------Original Message------ > From: Jay Hanke > Sender: MICE Discuss > To: MICE-DISCUSS(a)LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET > ReplyTo: MICE Discuss > Subject: Re: [MICE-DISCUSS] FYI: Hurricane Electric changed to 10Gig > Sent: Oct 30, 2011 10:32 AM > > On Sun, Oct 30, 2011 at 10:29 AM, Mike Wilker <mwilker(a)jagcom.net> wrote: > > The last I saw from Mr. Farmer was that they were talking to Akamai about > > the UofM providing the needed bandwidth. Should we be waiting for the > > results of that before seeing about other members chipping in? > > Dave is planning to open up some of their peering connections to help. > We're going to need more to keep up with growth even if the new > connection offloads 50%, we're still just about full. > > Jay > > ######################################################################## > > To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: > http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1 > > > ######################################################################## > > To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: > http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1 > ######################################################################## To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1

Oct. 30, 2011

Re: FYI: Hurricane Electric changed to 10Gig

by Mike Horwath

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Oct. 30, 2011

Re: FYI: Hurricane Electric changed to 10Gig

by Justin Krejci

Dave is getting that ball rolling already on his side. So I think by Monday we should be able to take a look and do any AS padding or other tuning if necessary and then have Marty open it back up again to full speed. ------Original Message------ From: Jay Hanke Sender: MICE Discuss To: MICE-DISCUSS(a)LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET ReplyTo: MICE Discuss Subject: Re: [MICE-DISCUSS] FYI: Hurricane Electric changed to 10Gig Sent: Oct 30, 2011 10:32 AM On Sun, Oct 30, 2011 at 10:29 AM, Mike Wilker <mwilker(a)jagcom.net> wrote: > The last I saw from Mr. Farmer was that they were talking to Akamai about > the UofM providing the needed bandwidth. Should we be waiting for the > results of that before seeing about other members chipping in? Dave is planning to open up some of their peering connections to help. We're going to need more to keep up with growth even if the new connection offloads 50%, we're still just about full. Jay ######################################################################## To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1 ######################################################################## To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1

Oct. 30, 2011

Re: FYI: Hurricane Electric changed to 10Gig

by Jay Hanke

On Sun, Oct 30, 2011 at 10:29 AM, Mike Wilker <mwilker(a)jagcom.net> wrote: > The last I saw from Mr. Farmer was that they were talking to Akamai about > the UofM providing the needed bandwidth. Should we be waiting for the > results of that before seeing about other members chipping in? Dave is planning to open up some of their peering connections to help. We're going to need more to keep up with growth even if the new connection offloads 50%, we're still just about full. Jay ######################################################################## To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1

Oct. 30, 2011

Re: FYI: Hurricane Electric changed to 10Gig

by Mike Wilker

The last I saw from Mr. Farmer was that they were talking to Akamai about the UofM providing the needed bandwidth. Should we be waiting for the results of that before seeing about other members chipping in? Mike Wilker Chief Technical Officer Jaguar Communications 507-214-0259 mwilker(a)jagcom.net On Sun, Oct 30, 2011 at 10:20 AM, Jay Hanke <jayhanke(a)mankatonetworks.net>wrote: > On Sat, Oct 29, 2011 at 11:35 PM, Frank Bulk <fbulk(a)mypremieronline.com> > wrote: > > I see that Akamai's peak is sitting around 1 Gbps, while it was > regularly peaking to 1.7 Gbps before the 25th. Is this part of Akamai's > cap change? > > Yes, we need more donated bandwidth for cache fill. > > Jay > > ######################################################################## > > To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: > http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1 > ######################################################################## To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1

Oct. 30, 2011

Re: FYI: Hurricane Electric changed to 10Gig

by Jay Hanke

On Sat, Oct 29, 2011 at 11:35 PM, Frank Bulk <fbulk(a)mypremieronline.com> wrote: > I see that Akamai's peak is sitting around 1 Gbps, while it was regularly peaking to 1.7 Gbps before the 25th. Is this part of Akamai's cap change? Yes, we need more donated bandwidth for cache fill. Jay ######################################################################## To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1

Oct. 30, 2011

Re: FYI: Hurricane Electric changed to 10Gig

by Frank Bulk

I see that Akamai's peak is sitting around 1 Gbps, while it was regularly peaking to 1.7 Gbps before the 25th. Is this part of Akamai's cap change? Frank -----Original Message----- From: MICE Discuss [mailto:MICE-DISCUSS@LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET] On Behalf Of Anthony Anderberg Sent: Thursday, October 27, 2011 11:18 AM To: MICE-DISCUSS(a)LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET Subject: Re: [MICE-DISCUSS] FYI: Hurricane Electric changed to 10Gig That's what I was thinking too, so I'd corrected Richard's participant list before uploading it. Am updating graphs and such now... I copied Hurricane's old port RRD into its new port so we'd retain their history for the aggregate graph. Looks like the Akamai cluster is going again, thanks to everyone for their work on that. Anthony Anderberg Sr. Systems Analyst 320-234-5239 anthonyanderberg(a)nu-telecom.net www.nutelecom.net -----Original Message----- From: MICE Discuss [mailto:MICE-DISCUSS@LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET] On Behalf Of Steve Howard Sent: Thursday, October 27, 2011 11:13 AM To: MICE-DISCUSS(a)LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET Subject: Re: [MICE-DISCUSS] FYI: Hurricane Electric changed to 10Gig On 10/27/2011 12:46 AM, Richard Laager wrote: > I assume this was TE0/10? > Hurricane is on Ten 0/9 ######################################################################## To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1 ######################################################################## To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1 ######################################################################## To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1

Oct. 30, 2011

Re: MICE Akamai Issues

by Justin Krejci

Apologies for the confusion. Been quite busy the last few days and it was not immediately clear to my subconscious that the list was not already familiar with the issue. As already explained well by Dave, nobody probably would have even noticed it if the capacity was just reduced as opposed to completely disabled. On Thu, 2011-10-27 at 15:28 -0500, Mike Horwath wrote: > Thanks, Dave! > ######################################################################## To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1

Oct. 27, 2011

Re: MICE Akamai Issues

by Mike Horwath

Thanks, Dave! -- Mike Horwath ipHouse - Welcome home! drechsau(a)iphouse.net The universe is an island, surrounded by whatever it is that surrounds universes. - Berkeley Fortune ######################################################################## To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1

Oct. 27, 2011

Re: MICE Akamai Issues

by Hannigan, Martin

On 10/27/11 7:07 PM, "David Farmer" <farmer(a)UMN.EDU> wrote: > On 10/27/11 13:55 CDT, Mike Horwath wrote: >> On Thu, Oct 27, 2011 at 01:49:36PM -0500, Hannigan, Martin wrote: >>> It's not offline. Our NOC inadvertently shut it off after I had >>> asked them to simply place a cap on the amount of capacity it would >>> push. That was fixed this morning. I would've seen it sooner myself, >>> but I'm in Senegal at the moment. >> >> So this had nothing to do with USI then? >> >> I am still pretty confused. >> >> I have 2 reasons right now for outage: >> >> USI has a proposal into Akamai regarding<something> > > The amount of transit necessary for cache fill is more the USI was told > and is causing some congestion for them. It shouldn't be anymore as I had the cap "fixed" and adjusted to the expected amount. If it's still an issue, I haven't heard it so let me know. [ clip ] >> >> If that's the case, what is the cap? > > There isn't a cap but there was congestion. > There is a cap on my side at the moment and it's 1.25 Gb/s. With respect to settled numbers, we're settled. Our system reacts to changes typically within 48 hours. We usually see more use when things get more local for a variety of reasons. Best, -M< ######################################################################## To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1

Oct. 27, 2011

Re: MICE Akamai Issues

by David Farmer

On 10/27/11 13:55 CDT, Mike Horwath wrote: > On Thu, Oct 27, 2011 at 01:49:36PM -0500, Hannigan, Martin wrote: >> It's not offline. Our NOC inadvertently shut it off after I had >> asked them to simply place a cap on the amount of capacity it would >> push. That was fixed this morning. I would've seen it sooner myself, >> but I'm in Senegal at the moment. > > So this had nothing to do with USI then? > > I am still pretty confused. > > I have 2 reasons right now for outage: > > USI has a proposal into Akamai regarding<something> The amount of transit necessary for cache fill is more the USI was told and is causing some congestion for them. We are proposing to Akamai and UMN supplements the inbound transit for cache fill of the node. > Akamai inadvertently shut it off after a cap was put into place This is the cause of the outage, not the cause of the initial problem that most people weren't aware of. > but neither is really giving me an answer. > > Is the problem that USI donated bandwdith and some cap was exceeded > for feeding the Akamai cluster? > > If that's the case, what is the cap? There isn't a cap but there was congestion. > Can the load be shared amongst some/all providers for the benefit > of the exchange point? We are talking to Akamai about the issue. > Is the problem that Akamai exceeded an internal cap for feeding into > MICE's network and it needed to be adjusted? > > If that's the case, what was the cap? What is it now? > > Is there anything others can do to help alleviate this in the > future? Over the summer we were averaging 800Mb to 1Gb of combine cache fill and TCP ACK traffic, and serving a total of 2 to 2.5G of content out of our node to both MICE and GigaPOP participants. At peak the two nodes seem to be serving 2.5 to 3G, but I'm not really confident of those number because we really haven't got everything settled in yet, I'd like to see a week or two of sustained numbers before I believe we've settled in. -- =============================================== David Farmer Email:farmer@umn.edu Networking & Telecommunication Services Office of Information Technology University of Minnesota 2218 University Ave SE Phone: 612-626-0815 Minneapolis, MN 55414-3029 Cell: 612-812-9952 =============================================== ######################################################################## To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1

Oct. 27, 2011

Re: MICE Akamai Issues

by Mike Horwath

On Thu, Oct 27, 2011 at 01:49:36PM -0500, Hannigan, Martin wrote: > It's not offline. Our NOC inadvertently shut it off after I had > asked them to simply place a cap on the amount of capacity it would > push. That was fixed this morning. I would've seen it sooner myself, > but I'm in Senegal at the moment. So this had nothing to do with USI then? I am still pretty confused. I have 2 reasons right now for outage: USI has a proposal into Akamai regarding <something> Akamai inadvertently shut it off after a cap was put into place but neither is really giving me an answer. Is the problem that USI donated bandwdith and some cap was exceeded for feeding the Akamai cluster? If that's the case, what is the cap? Can the load be shared amongst some/all providers for the benefit of the exchange point? Is the problem that Akamai exceeded an internal cap for feeding into MICE's network and it needed to be adjusted? If that's the case, what was the cap? What is it now? Is there anything others can do to help alleviate this in the future? -- Mike Horwath ipHouse - Welcome home! drechsau(a)iphouse.net The universe is an island, surrounded by whatever it is that surrounds universes. - Berkeley Fortune ######################################################################## To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1

Oct. 27, 2011

Re: MICE Akamai Issues

by Hannigan, Martin

It's not offline. Our NOC inadvertently shut it off after I had asked them to simply place a cap on the amount of capacity it would push. That was fixed this morning. I would've seen it sooner myself, but I'm in Senegal at the moment. Best, -M< On 10/27/11 6:46 PM, "Mike Horwath" <drechsau(a)IPHOUSE.NET> wrote: > On Thu, Oct 27, 2011 at 01:42:43PM -0500, Richard Laager wrote: >> On Thu, 2011-10-27 at 13:10 -0500, Mike Horwath wrote: >>> What does USI have to do with the Akamai stuff? Is there a problem >>> between the two? >> >> I believe they are donating the bandwidth to feed the Akamai >> cluster. > > Ok. > > But what's the problem that occured to take the Akamai cluster > offline? ######################################################################## To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1

Oct. 27, 2011

Re: MICE Akamai Issues

by Mike Horwath

On Thu, Oct 27, 2011 at 01:42:43PM -0500, Richard Laager wrote: > On Thu, 2011-10-27 at 13:10 -0500, Mike Horwath wrote: > > What does USI have to do with the Akamai stuff? Is there a problem > > between the two? > > I believe they are donating the bandwidth to feed the Akamai > cluster. Ok. But what's the problem that occured to take the Akamai cluster offline? -- Mike Horwath ipHouse - Welcome home! drechsau(a)iphouse.net The universe is an island, surrounded by whatever it is that surrounds universes. - Berkeley Fortune ######################################################################## To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1

Oct. 27, 2011

Re: MICE Akamai Issues

by Richard Laager

On Thu, 2011-10-27 at 13:10 -0500, Mike Horwath wrote: > What does USI have to do with the Akamai stuff? Is there a problem > between the two? I believe they are donating the bandwidth to feed the Akamai cluster. Richard ######################################################################## To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1

Oct. 27, 2011

Re: MICE Akamai Issues

by Mike Horwath

On Thu, Oct 27, 2011 at 11:30:22AM -0500, Justin Krejci wrote: > I sent over our proposal to Marty for Akamai's approval this > morning. If he says its OK then we should be able to get implement > without much delay, depending on what processes and procedures are > needed on the UMN side. > > Will keep this list updated. I must not understand the problem. What does USI have to do with the Akamai stuff? Is there a problem between the two? Help me to understand, please. -- Mike Horwath ipHouse - Welcome home! drechsau(a)iphouse.net The universe is an island, surrounded by whatever it is that surrounds universes. - Berkeley Fortune ######################################################################## To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1

Oct. 27, 2011

Re: MICE Akamai Issues

by Justin Krejci

On Thu, 2011-10-27 at 02:01 -0500, Jay Hanke wrote: > On Wed, Oct 26, 2011 at 10:37 PM, Frank Bulk <fbulk(a)mypremieronline.com> wrote: > > Did this get resolved? > > >From the graphs it would appear not as there is basically no traffic > on the links to Akamai. > > Justin/Dave/Marty, do you have an update? > > Jay I sent over our proposal to Marty for Akamai's approval this morning. If he says its OK then we should be able to get implement without much delay, depending on what processes and procedures are needed on the UMN side. Will keep this list updated. ######################################################################## To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1

Oct. 27, 2011

Re: FYI: Hurricane Electric changed to 10Gig

by Anthony Anderberg

That's what I was thinking too, so I'd corrected Richard's participant list before uploading it. Am updating graphs and such now... I copied Hurricane's old port RRD into its new port so we'd retain their history for the aggregate graph. Looks like the Akamai cluster is going again, thanks to everyone for their work on that. Anthony Anderberg Sr. Systems Analyst 320-234-5239 anthonyanderberg(a)nu-telecom.net www.nutelecom.net -----Original Message----- From: MICE Discuss [mailto:MICE-DISCUSS@LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET] On Behalf Of Steve Howard Sent: Thursday, October 27, 2011 11:13 AM To: MICE-DISCUSS(a)LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET Subject: Re: [MICE-DISCUSS] FYI: Hurricane Electric changed to 10Gig On 10/27/2011 12:46 AM, Richard Laager wrote: > I assume this was TE0/10? > Hurricane is on Ten 0/9 ######################################################################## To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1 ######################################################################## To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1

Oct. 27, 2011

Re: FYI: Hurricane Electric changed to 10Gig

by Steve Howard

On 10/27/2011 12:46 AM, Richard Laager wrote: > I assume this was TE0/10? > Hurricane is on Ten 0/9 ######################################################################## To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1

Oct. 27, 2011

Re: FYI: Hurricane Electric changed to 10Gig

by Justin Krejci

Looks like Anthony just updated the weathermap with the change now too. On Thu, 2011-10-27 at 00:46 -0500, Richard Laager wrote: > On Wed, 2011-10-26 at 20:26 -0500, Steve Howard wrote: > > Subject says it all... Hurricane Electric moved to a 10Gig interface on > > the CNS switch this evening. > > I assume this was TE0/10? > > I've attached an updated participants.html file, based on my previous > work. Can someone post this to the website (or tell me what's wrong with > it), please? > > Richard > > ######################################################################## > > To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: > http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1 ######################################################################## To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1

Oct. 27, 2011

Re: MICE Akamai Issues

by Jay Hanke

On Wed, Oct 26, 2011 at 10:37 PM, Frank Bulk <fbulk(a)mypremieronline.com> wrote: > Did this get resolved? >From the graphs it would appear not as there is basically no traffic on the links to Akamai. Justin/Dave/Marty, do you have an update? Jay ######################################################################## To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1

Oct. 27, 2011

Re: FYI: Hurricane Electric changed to 10Gig

by Richard Laager

On Wed, 2011-10-26 at 20:26 -0500, Steve Howard wrote: > Subject says it all... Hurricane Electric moved to a 10Gig interface on > the CNS switch this evening. I assume this was TE0/10? I've attached an updated participants.html file, based on my previous work. Can someone post this to the website (or tell me what's wrong with it), please? Richard ######################################################################## To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1

Oct. 27, 2011

Re: MICE Akamai Issues

by Frank Bulk

Did this get resolved? Frank From: MICE Discuss [mailto:MICE-DISCUSS@LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET] On Behalf Of Jay Hanke Sent: Tuesday, October 25, 2011 9:18 AM To: MICE-DISCUSS(a)LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET Subject: Re: [MICE-DISCUSS] MICE Akamai Issues On Tue, Oct 25, 2011 at 8:42 AM, Jeremy Lumby <jlumby(a)mnvoip.com<mailto:jlumby@mnvoip.com>> wrote: Do you need me to go to 511 today to assist? Thanks for the offer. We've exceeded the allotment of cache flow bandwidth. We're working with Akamai on solutions. jay ________________________________ To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1 ######################################################################## To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1

Oct. 27, 2011

FYI: Hurricane Electric changed to 10Gig

by Steve Howard

Hello, Subject says it all... Hurricane Electric moved to a 10Gig interface on the CNS switch this evening. Thanks, STeve ######################################################################## To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1

Oct. 27, 2011

High Speed Internet in Welcome/Sherburn/Trimont

by James Montz

Anyone able, or provide contacts/leads for High Speed (>6Mbps) connectivity in the cities of Sherburn, Welcome, or Trimont? Please contact me off list. Thanks! --------------------------------------------------- *James C. Montz* ######################################################################## To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1

Oct. 25, 2011

Re: MICE Akamai Issues

by Jay Hanke

On Tue, Oct 25, 2011 at 8:42 AM, Jeremy Lumby <jlumby(a)mnvoip.com> wrote: > ** > Do you need me to go to 511 today to assist? > Thanks for the offer. We've exceeded the allotment of cache flow bandwidth. We're working with Akamai on solutions. jay ######################################################################## To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1

Oct. 25, 2011

Re: MICE Akamai Issues

by Jeremy Lumby

Do you need me to go to 511 today to assist? From: MICE Discuss [mailto:MICE-DISCUSS@LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET] On Behalf Of Jay Hanke Sent: Tuesday, October 25, 2011 8:32 AM To: MICE-DISCUSS(a)LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET Subject: [MICE-DISCUSS] MICE Akamai Issues The MICE Akamai cluster is currently running at reduced capacity. Jay To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1 ######################################################################## To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1

Oct. 25, 2011

MICE Akamai Issues

by Jay Hanke

The MICE Akamai cluster is currently running at reduced capacity. Jay ######################################################################## To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1

Oct. 25, 2011

Re: Participants List Web Page

by Richard Laager

I've attached an updated version of the participants page. This builds on my previous submission by adding peering contacts for all networks. Can someone with access to the website post this? Thanks, Richard ######################################################################## To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1

Oct. 21, 2011

Akamai (20940) Live at MICE. Peering anyone?

by Hannigan, Martin

Dear North Star Staters (and others), Akamai is pleased to announce that we are live and in production on the MICE. We very much appreciate being part of the growing fabric of Minnesota's internet! It's ironic that as I write this email I am in the great State of Maine, the home of the finest Blueberry in the world and that Minnesota's state muffin is, of course, Blueberry! :-) We are available for peering both multilaterally (route servers) and bilaterally (directly). For peering requests, peering issues and other questions related to peering with AKAMAI at the MICE: Peering policies, technical and contact information: http://as20940.peeringdb.com Warmest Regards, Martin Hannigan\Akamai AS20940 ######################################################################## To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1

Oct. 21, 2011

Re: mailing list errors

by Mike Horwath

TL;DR So vote, and quickly. keep Reply-To in place so that messages, by default, go back to the list for the conversations hampering easy (r)eply to author tiny (and private) conversations ignore Reply-To and let a bunch of tiny (and private) conversations occur and consider that users use a (g)roup-reply mechanism in their mail programs to keep public conversations going I'll watch what I receive and make a final decision later today or tomorrow. My diatribe: I find references to Mailman people talking about this, the URL you mentioned and a few others. (more than a few, the debate has been going on for a very long time) I am on the side of option #1 to keep conversations by default public and list-bound (ie; using the Reply-To header). I also consider the Reply-To header a perfect mechanism for getting this done as this is a *discussion* list, not an announcement list and keeping conversations within the list unless explicitly decided by the end user. More searching around this morning finds this: Mailman uses the List-Post header (described in RFC2369) in some of the mailing lists I am on but not all, and I am finding during my 90+ minutes of testing this morning that most MUAs don't honor this regardless of what the RFC says. FreeBSD mailing lists are Mailman and use the Reply-To header but not consistently across the board. All three anti-spam lists I am on use the Reply-To header and a mix of Mailman vs home-grown list software. Multiple Mailman lists I am on are using Reply-To for announcement and discussion lists. Discussion lists are running ~20% Reply-To included, the other 80% are not. Multiple LISTSERV lists I am on are using Reply-To for announcement and discussion lists. Discussion lists are running ~70% Reply-To included, the other 30% are not. BTW: RFC2822 is a proposed item and has not reached the final standard level. But that's the problem with RFCs isn't it? -- Mike Horwath ipHouse - Welcome home! drechsau(a)iphouse.net The universe is an island, surrounded by whatever it is that surrounds universes. - Berkeley Fortune ######################################################################## To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1

Oct. 20, 2011

Re: mailing list errors

by Andrew Hoyos

On Oct 20, 2011, at 10:34 AM, Mike Horwath wrote: > You are being overly draconian in your filter; this is not the fault of the mailing list software by any means. > > It is completely RFC and BCP compliant. Actually, if you read RFC2822, it indicates: "When the "Reply-To:" field is present, it indicates the mailbox(es) to which the author of the message suggests that replies be sent." As the link Richard sent describes, the list software is not the "author" of the message. The sender of the message should be the only one setting the Reply-To header. > Fix your filters which must cause other mailing lists because of the same issue. Looking at a sampling of other lists that I'm subscribed to, none of them have this behavior. (including NANOG, c-nsp, j-nsp, arin-ppml, etc). -- Andrew Hoyos hoyosa(a)gmail.com ######################################################################## To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1

Oct. 20, 2011

Re: mailing list errors

by Mike Horwath

This is LISTSERV, software that has been running since the 1980s. You are being overly draconian in your filter; this is not the fault of the mailing list software by any means. It is completely RFC and BCP compliant. If you are bouncing email you sent which is being resent from LISTSERV, then take one of two choices: Fix your filters which must cause other mailing lists because of the same issue. Go to the list site, then turn off sending of your own messages back to you. -- Mike Horwath via iPad 2, electric boogaloo! ######################################################################## To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1

Oct. 20, 2011

Re: Multicast Traffic / 00:04:96:37:14:c3 -> 224.0.0.1

by Matthew Beckwell

Multicast is fine…just keep it off my port :) From: MICE Discuss [mailto:MICE-DISCUSS@LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET] On Behalf Of Steve Howard Sent: Thursday, October 20, 2011 9:42 AM To: MICE-DISCUSS(a)LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET Subject: Re: [MICE-DISCUSS] Multicast Traffic / 00:04:96:37:14:c3 -> 224.0.0.1 Is multicast a bad thing at the exchange? Is there some reason that we want to avoid it? On 10/19/2011 11:22 PM, Matthew Beckwell wrote: Could I convince the owner of an Extreme Networks device with license plate: 00:04:96:37:14:c3 to disable cause of the multicast traffic that seems to be directed at the exchange every 2 minutes? :) No. Time Source Destination Protocol Length Info 1 0.000000 69.147.218.100 224.0.0.1 IGMP 60 V2 Membership Query, general Frame 1: 60 bytes on wire (480 bits), 60 bytes captured (480 bits) Ethernet II, Src: ExtremeN_37:14:c3 (00:04:96:37:14:c3), Dst: IPv4mcast_00:00:01 (01:00:5e:00:00:01) Internet Protocol Version 4, Src: 69.147.218.100 (69.147.218.100), Dst: 224.0.0.1 (224.0.0.1) Internet Group Management Protocol -- Matthew Beckwell - Senior Network and Application Engineer Advanced Integrated Technologies Office: 952-829-5511 x204 matthewb(a)aitech.net<mailto:matthewb@aitech.net> ________________________________ To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1 ________________________________ To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1 ######################################################################## To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1

Oct. 20, 2011

Re: Multicast Traffic / 00:04:96:37:14:c3 -> 224.0.0.1

by Steve Howard

Is multicast a bad thing at the exchange? Is there some reason that we want to avoid it? On 10/19/2011 11:22 PM, Matthew Beckwell wrote: > Could I convince the owner of an Extreme Networks device with license > plate: 00:04:96:37:14:c3 > to disable cause of the multicast traffic that seems to be directed at > the exchange every 2 minutes? :) > > > > No. Time Source Destination > Protocol Length Info > 1 0.000000 69.147.218.100 224.0.0.1 IGMP > 60 V2 Membership Query, general > > Frame 1: 60 bytes on wire (480 bits), 60 bytes captured (480 bits) > Ethernet II, Src: ExtremeN_37:14:c3 (00:04:96:37:14:c3), Dst: > IPv4mcast_00:00:01 (01:00:5e:00:00:01) > Internet Protocol Version 4, Src: 69.147.218.100 (69.147.218.100), > Dst: 224.0.0.1 (224.0.0.1) > Internet Group Management Protocol > > > -- > Matthew Beckwell - Senior Network and Application Engineer > Advanced Integrated Technologies > Office: 952-829-5511 x204 > matthewb(a)aitech.net <mailto:matthewb@aitech.net> > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: > http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1 > <http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1> > ######################################################################## To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1

Oct. 20, 2011

Re: Multicast Traffic / 00:04:96:37:14:c3 -> 224.0.0.1

by Jay Hanke

On Thu, Oct 20, 2011 at 8:55 AM, Matthew Beckwell <matthewb(a)aitech.net>wrote: > Now it's coming from 69.147.218.103 / 00:04:96:00:0c:00 instead. > ~Matthew > > In case it helps, here is the Extreme command to disable IGMP on a vlan: disable igmp vlan "<vlan name>" It's on by default when you create a new vlan. Jay ######################################################################## To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1

Oct. 20, 2011

Re: Multicast Traffic / 00:04:96:37:14:c3 -> 224.0.0.1

by Matthew Beckwell

Now it's coming from 69.147.218.103 / 00:04:96:00:0c:00 instead. ~Matthew No. Time Source Destination Protocol Length Info 1 2011-10-20 08:52:36.984543 69.147.218.103 224.0.0.1 IGMP 60 V2 Membership Query, general Frame 1: 60 bytes on wire (480 bits), 60 bytes captured (480 bits) Ethernet II, Src: ExtremeN_00:0c:00 (00:04:96:00:0c:00), Dst: IPv4mcast_00:00:01 (01:00:5e:00:00:01) Internet Protocol Version 4, Src: 69.147.218.103 (69.147.218.103), Dst: 224.0.0.1 (224.0.0.1) Internet Group Management Protocol ######################################################################## To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1

Oct. 20, 2011

Re: Multicast Traffic / 00:04:96:37:14:c3 -> 224.0.0.1

by Jay Hanke

On Wed, Oct 19, 2011 at 11:22 PM, Matthew Beckwell <matthewb(a)aitech.net>wrote: > Could I convince the owner of an Extreme Networks device with license > plate: 00:04:96:37:14:c3 > to disable cause of the multicast traffic that seems to be directed at the > exchange every 2 minutes? :) > Are you still seeing it? Jay ######################################################################## To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1

Oct. 20, 2011

Re: mailing list errors

by Richard Laager

On Thu, 2011-10-20 at 02:15 -0500, Mike Horwath wrote: > Err First Last Address > --- ----- ----- ------- > 2 10/18 10/19 Richard Laager <RLAAGER(a)WIKTEL.COM> > Last error: 5.7.1 554 5.7.1 SMTP AUTH is required for > rlaager(a)WIKTEL.COM. Contact support(a)wiktel.com for > assistance. (p9K0IjAI005904) > > I have been in contact with this person before in the past. I believe I've fixed it. Of course, I said that last time. I'll know for sure if I get a copy of this message. If I don't, I'll look into this some more. As I mentioned off-list before: While I agree that my mail server was broken, it would not have been a problem if your listserv software wasn't munging messages. And while the From: munging isn't too bad, the Reply-To: munging is really annoying. See the following for reasons why: http://woozle.org/~neale/papers/reply-to-still-harmful.html > I am going to let LISTSERV do what it thinks is best - which will be > to bounce the user from the list after 10 days of failures. The bug in question resulted in my own messages bouncing when the listserv software tried to send them to me. I've sent 4 messages to mice-discuss in the last* 10 days, not counting this one. By my quick count, there have been about 58 messages (including mine) sent to the list in the same time. If 4 bounces, especially out of 58 messages, is enough for your software to unsubscribe me from the list, it's broken as well. Richard * Yes, I'm aware you're talking about a 10 day window that's at least partially in the future. I'm looking backwards only so that I can provide hard numbers. ######################################################################## To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1

Oct. 20, 2011

mailing list errors

by Mike Horwath

Err First Last Address --- ----- ----- ------- 2 10/18 10/19 Richard Laager <RLAAGER(a)WIKTEL.COM> Last error: 5.7.1 554 5.7.1 SMTP AUTH is required for rlaager(a)WIKTEL.COM. Contact support(a)wiktel.com for assistance. (p9K0IjAI005904) I have been in contact with this person before in the past. I am going to let LISTSERV do what it thinks is best - which will be to bounce the user from the list after 10 days of failures. I will not interfere or try to stop it because of a misbehaving remote mail server. (yes, I am poking at you WIKTEL.COM) -- Mike Horwath ipHouse - Welcome home! drechsau(a)iphouse.net The universe is an island, surrounded by whatever it is that surrounds universes. - Berkeley Fortune ######################################################################## To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1

Oct. 20, 2011

Re: MICE UG 6 Sponsor!

by Reid Fishler

It appears as I can definitely make the meeting, however I will have a 6:29PM flight out, as I NEED to be back in NY the next day. My guess is that I will be able to show up EARLIER than 3PM, and stay until about 4:30 at the VERY latest...I also will come in on the day before if there is any value to that... Reid On Wed, Oct 19, 2011 at 9:30 AM, Jay Hanke <jayhanke(a)mankatonetworks.net>wrote: > The meeting is usually fairly short 45 minutes or so. Make sure to allow > time afterwards for the social, that's the good part. IIRC, the social > breaks up before 6:30 or 7ish. > > On Wed, Oct 19, 2011 at 3:21 AM, Reid Fishler <rfishler(a)he.net> wrote: > >> What time should this meeting end? I am trying to make the last flight >> back to NY... >> >> Reid >> >> On Fri, Sep 30, 2011 at 2:49 PM, Jay Hanke <jayhanke(a)mankatonetworks.net>wrote: >> >>> A special thanks to FWR has volunteered to sponsor MICE UG 6! >>> >>> Here is the info for the meeting >>> >>> MICE UG 6- Throwback Meeting at Grumpy's November 9th, 2011 starting at >>> 3:00pm >>> >>> Volunteering makes MICE work. If you or your company is looking for a >>> way to contribute here is a partial list. >>> >>> -Donate money for our own IPv4 and IPv6 addresses from ARIN, we only >>> have one year left on our existing address space >>> -Legal- The Steering Committee needs help writing the bylaws. >>> -Harass your upstream provider (or any provider you know for that >>> matter) to connect to MICE >>> -Fill out your PeeringDB entry >>> -Create a looking glass >>> -Write a blog article about MICE. >>> -Do something not on the list. >>> >>> ######################################################################## >>> >>> To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: >>> http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1 >>> >>> >> >> >> -- >> Reid Fishler >> Director >> Hurricane Electric >> +1-510-580-4178 >> >> ------------------------------ >> >> To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: >> http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1 >> > > > > -- > Jay Hanke > CTO, CCIE #19093 > Mankato Networks LLC > 619 S Front St > Mankato, MN 56001-3838 > Google 530-618-2398 > jayhanke(a)mankatonetworks.net > http://www.mankatonetworks.com > > > ------------------------------ > > To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: > http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1 > -- Reid Fishler Director Hurricane Electric +1-510-580-4178 ######################################################################## To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1

Oct. 20, 2011

Multicast Traffic / 00:04:96:37:14:c3 -> 224.0.0.1

by Matthew Beckwell

Could I convince the owner of an Extreme Networks device with license plate: 00:04:96:37:14:c3 to disable cause of the multicast traffic that seems to be directed at the exchange every 2 minutes? :) No. Time Source Destination Protocol Length Info 1 0.000000 69.147.218.100 224.0.0.1 IGMP 60 V2 Membership Query, general Frame 1: 60 bytes on wire (480 bits), 60 bytes captured (480 bits) Ethernet II, Src: ExtremeN_37:14:c3 (00:04:96:37:14:c3), Dst: IPv4mcast_00:00:01 (01:00:5e:00:00:01) Internet Protocol Version 4, Src: 69.147.218.100 (69.147.218.100), Dst: 224.0.0.1 (224.0.0.1) Internet Group Management Protocol -- Matthew Beckwell - Senior Network and Application Engineer Advanced Integrated Technologies Office: 952-829-5511 x204 matthewb(a)aitech.net<mailto:matthewb@aitech.net> ######################################################################## To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1

Oct. 20, 2011

Re: New MICE Looking Glass

by Richard Laager

On Tue, 2011-10-18 at 22:03 +0000, Anthony Anderberg wrote: > http://micelg.usinternet.com/cacti/ Did you create the aggregate graph for the MICE home page as well? I'm guessing this is a fairly stock Cacti install. The data appears to be being re-averaged for the yearly graph. For example, there's a peak of 2.86 G on the daily aggregate graph. Here's a zoomed-in link: http://micelg.usinternet.com/cacti/graph.php?action=zoom&local_graph_id=217… But the yearly aggregate shows "Max Traffic: 1.47G". If the point of the aggregate graph is to show how big the exchange is, this is a pretty significant difference. My Cacti-fu is pretty weak. I solved this for Wiktel's Cacti installation by only having one RRD per data source. I save 5 years (chosen as a value higher than I would ever care about) of 5 minute samples. Disk space is pretty cheap and I'm at a small ISP, so this works. I'm not sure what the most correct solution for MICE is. Perhaps it would work to set the consolidation function for the yearly RRD to "MAX". Even if that works, I'm not sure how to do that without losing the historical data, though. Richard ######################################################################## To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1

Oct. 20, 2011