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Re: Arvig Port turn up

by Mike Bushard

Interesting, I have no network statements in my BGP config..... It looks like they are back feeding via our Zayo connection and the GigaPOP.... Mike Bushard, Jr | Network Engineer IV | Arvig | 320.256.7471 Office | 320.256.0178 Direct | 320.429.0837 Mobile ** NEW NUMBER ** | 320-256-7555 Fax *** Please update your address book with my new work email: mike.bushard(a)arvig.com *** -----Original Message----- From: MICE Discuss [mailto:MICE-DISCUSS@LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET] On Behalf Of Doug McIntyre Sent: Tuesday, February 28, 2012 9:47 AM To: MICE-DISCUSS(a)LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET Subject: Re: [MICE-DISCUSS] Arvig Port turn up On Tue, Feb 28, 2012 at 09:14:36AM -0600, Mike Bushard wrote: > So yeah, the session with .1 came up now. Sorry. Yep, both IPv4 and IPv6 sessions on -01 and -02 are up and Established. You are only announcing IPv4 into -01 though, and the MICE RR's have received 7 prefixes from you. It looks like we've grown to 688 IPv4 prefixes and 29 IPv6 prefixes in the exchange now. -- Doug McIntyre <merlyn(a)iphouse.net> -- ipHouse/Goldengate/Bitstream/ProNS -- Network Engineer/Provisioning/Jack of all Trades ######################################################################## To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1 ######################################################################## To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1

Feb. 28, 2012

Re: Arvig Port turn up

by Doug McIntyre

On Tue, Feb 28, 2012 at 09:14:36AM -0600, Mike Bushard wrote: > So yeah, the session with .1 came up now. Sorry. Yep, both IPv4 and IPv6 sessions on -01 and -02 are up and Established. You are only announcing IPv4 into -01 though, and the MICE RR's have received 7 prefixes from you. It looks like we've grown to 688 IPv4 prefixes and 29 IPv6 prefixes in the exchange now. -- Doug McIntyre <merlyn(a)iphouse.net> -- ipHouse/Goldengate/Bitstream/ProNS -- Network Engineer/Provisioning/Jack of all Trades ######################################################################## To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1

Feb. 28, 2012

Re: Arvig Port turn up

by Mike Bushard

So yeah, the session with .1 came up now. Sorry. Mike Bushard, Jr | Network Engineer IV | Arvig | 320.256.7471 Office | 320.256.0178 Direct | 320.429.0837 Mobile ** NEW NUMBER ** | 320-256-7555 Fax *** Please update your address book with my new work email: mike.bushard(a)arvig.com *** -----Original Message----- From: Mike Bushard [mailto:mike.bushard@arvig.com] Sent: Tuesday, February 28, 2012 9:14 AM To: 'MICE Discuss' Subject: RE: [MICE-DISCUSS] Arvig Port turn up That fixed it, but only the session with .2 came up, .1 is still idle. Mike Bushard, Jr | Network Engineer IV | Arvig | 320.256.7471 Office | 320.256.0178 Direct | 320.429.0837 Mobile | 320-256-7555 Fax *** Please update your address book with my new work email: mike.bushard(a)arvig.com *** -----Original Message----- From: MICE Discuss [mailto:MICE-DISCUSS@LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET] On Behalf Of Andrew Hoyos Sent: Monday, February 27, 2012 3:25 PM To: MICE-DISCUSS(a)LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET Subject: Re: [MICE-DISCUSS] Arvig Port turn up On Feb 27, 2012, at 3:19 PM, Doug McIntyre wrote: > On Mon, Feb 27, 2012 at 02:58:03PM -0600, Mike Bushard wrote: >> Hey route server admins, can somebody look to see if the Arvig >> session is shutdown? > > It had been unconfigured at some point in time. > > I put the configs back in place, but we're getting this error.. > > Feb 27 15:15:54 micemn-01 bird: ASN_16904: Received: Malformed > AS_PATH: 400206020100007550 That looks familiar from dealings with other route servers: 'no bgp enforce-first-as' on the Arvig side should fix that :) -- Andrew Hoyos hoyosa(a)gmail.com ######################################################################## To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1 ######################################################################## To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1

Feb. 28, 2012

Re: Arvig Port turn up

by Mike Bushard

That fixed it, but only the session with .2 came up, .1 is still idle. Mike Bushard, Jr | Network Engineer IV | Arvig | 320.256.7471 Office | 320.256.0178 Direct | 320.429.0837 Mobile | 320-256-7555 Fax *** Please update your address book with my new work email: mike.bushard(a)arvig.com *** -----Original Message----- From: MICE Discuss [mailto:MICE-DISCUSS@LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET] On Behalf Of Andrew Hoyos Sent: Monday, February 27, 2012 3:25 PM To: MICE-DISCUSS(a)LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET Subject: Re: [MICE-DISCUSS] Arvig Port turn up On Feb 27, 2012, at 3:19 PM, Doug McIntyre wrote: > On Mon, Feb 27, 2012 at 02:58:03PM -0600, Mike Bushard wrote: >> Hey route server admins, can somebody look to see if the Arvig >> session is shutdown? > > It had been unconfigured at some point in time. > > I put the configs back in place, but we're getting this error.. > > Feb 27 15:15:54 micemn-01 bird: ASN_16904: Received: Malformed > AS_PATH: 400206020100007550 That looks familiar from dealings with other route servers: 'no bgp enforce-first-as' on the Arvig side should fix that :) -- Andrew Hoyos hoyosa(a)gmail.com ######################################################################## To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1 ######################################################################## To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1

Feb. 28, 2012

Re: Arvig Port turn up

by Doug McIntyre

On Mon, Feb 27, 2012 at 02:58:03PM -0600, Mike Bushard wrote: > Any chance we can add an MD5 password to the session also? Oh yeah, missed that part, the OS/platform of the route-servers don't easily support BGP MD5. Its of dubious protection as it is, many on NANOG don't advocate for it (per some recentish thread). -- Doug McIntyre <merlyn(a)iphouse.net> -- ipHouse/Goldengate/Bitstream/ProNS -- Network Engineer/Provisioning/Jack of all Trades ######################################################################## To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1

Feb. 27, 2012

Re: Arvig Port turn up

by Andrew Hoyos

On Feb 27, 2012, at 3:19 PM, Doug McIntyre wrote: > On Mon, Feb 27, 2012 at 02:58:03PM -0600, Mike Bushard wrote: >> Hey route server admins, can somebody look to see if the Arvig session is >> shutdown? > > It had been unconfigured at some point in time. > > I put the configs back in place, but we're getting this error.. > > Feb 27 15:15:54 micemn-01 bird: ASN_16904: Received: Malformed AS_PATH: 400206020100007550 That looks familiar from dealings with other route servers: 'no bgp enforce-first-as' on the Arvig side should fix that :) -- Andrew Hoyos hoyosa(a)gmail.com ######################################################################## To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1

Feb. 27, 2012

Re: Arvig Port turn up

by Mike Bushard, Jr

Alright. I'm walking out the door to try and miss traffic. I'll take a look later. Mike Bushard Jr Network Engineer IV Arvig 320.256.0178 direct 320.429.0837 Mobile Sent from my Verizon Wireless DROID RAZR by Motorola Please excuse short responses and spelling errors. On Feb 27, 2012 3:19 PM, "Doug McIntyre" <merlyn(a)iphouse.net> wrote: > On Mon, Feb 27, 2012 at 02:58:03PM -0600, Mike Bushard wrote: > > Hey route server admins, can somebody look to see if the Arvig session is > > shutdown? > > It had been unconfigured at some point in time. > > I put the configs back in place, but we're getting this error.. > > Feb 27 15:15:54 micemn-01 bird: ASN_16904: Received: Malformed AS_PATH: > 400206020100007550 > > Not sure what that error means exactly. > We do IPv4 routes in IPv4 session, and IPv6 routes in the IPv6 session.. > > -- > Doug McIntyre <merlyn(a)iphouse.net> > -- ipHouse/Goldengate/Bitstream/ProNS -- > Network Engineer/Provisioning/Jack of all Trades > > ######################################################################## > > To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: > http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1 > ######################################################################## To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1

Feb. 27, 2012

Re: Arvig Port turn up

by Doug McIntyre

On Mon, Feb 27, 2012 at 02:58:03PM -0600, Mike Bushard wrote: > Hey route server admins, can somebody look to see if the Arvig session is > shutdown? It had been unconfigured at some point in time. I put the configs back in place, but we're getting this error.. Feb 27 15:15:54 micemn-01 bird: ASN_16904: Received: Malformed AS_PATH: 400206020100007550 Not sure what that error means exactly. We do IPv4 routes in IPv4 session, and IPv6 routes in the IPv6 session.. -- Doug McIntyre <merlyn(a)iphouse.net> -- ipHouse/Goldengate/Bitstream/ProNS -- Network Engineer/Provisioning/Jack of all Trades ######################################################################## To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1

Feb. 27, 2012

Re: Arvig Port turn up

by Mike Bushard

Hey route server admins, can somebody look to see if the Arvig session is shutdown? Port comes up and I can ping the servers but no BGP exchange. Any chance we can add an MD5 password to the session also? Mike Bushard, Jr | Network Engineer IV | *Arvig* | 320.256.7471 Office | 320.256.0178 Direct | 320.429.0837 Mobile | 320-256-7555 Fax [image: Description: Description: http://ipstats.arvig.net/arviglogo.jpeg] *** Please update your address book with my new work email: mike.bushard(a)arvig.com *** *From:* Mike Bushard [mailto:mike.bushard@arvig.com] *Sent:* Monday, February 27, 2012 2:43 PM *To:* 'MICE-DISCUSS(a)LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET'; 'MICE-ANNOUNCE(a)LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET' *Subject:* Arvig Port turn up Hello, I wanted to give a friendly notice that I will be turning up the Arvig BGP session to the MICE Route Servers in about 10-15 minutes. I won’t be announcing any routes yet, but just in case something goes wrong please call my cell phone, 320-429-0837. I do have reception at out rack. Mike Bushard, Jr | Network Engineer IV | *Arvig* | 320.256.7471 Office | 320.256.0178 Direct | 320.429.0837 Mobile | 320-256-7555 Fax [image: Description: Description: http://ipstats.arvig.net/arviglogo.jpeg] *** Please update your address book with my new work email: mike.bushard(a)arvig.com *** ######################################################################## To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1

Feb. 27, 2012

Arvig Port turn up

by Mike Bushard

Hello, I wanted to give a friendly notice that I will be turning up the Arvig BGP session to the MICE Route Servers in about 10-15 minutes. I won’t be announcing any routes yet, but just in case something goes wrong please call my cell phone, 320-429-0837. I do have reception at out rack. Mike Bushard, Jr | Network Engineer IV | *Arvig* | 320.256.7471 Office | 320.256.0178 Direct | 320.429.0837 Mobile | 320-256-7555 Fax [image: Description: Description: http://ipstats.arvig.net/arviglogo.jpeg] *** Please update your address book with my new work email: mike.bushard(a)arvig.com *** ######################################################################## To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1

Feb. 27, 2012

Re: Idle Mice

by Jay Hanke

On Feb 22, 2012 10:57 AM, "Mike Horwath" <drechsau(a)iphouse.net> wrote: > > On Tue, Feb 21, 2012 at 06:14:36PM -0600, Justin Krejci wrote: > > Not much discussion lately on the list. There were a number of > > possible things we were considering doing... there were talks about > > how to handle 10Gig port consumption on the MICE switch(es), > > extending layer 2 into other networks/geographies, MICE IP blocks / > > ARIN fees, LLC/non-profit status, etc. > > I have no idea what is going on with that. There was some discussion > of course, for a short period. I think the non-winter hit everyone > hard creating a new kind of winter(not) depression. > Mike we still need to meet up for the np stuff. There are a bunch of pending connections. Traffic has been growing steadily. If you have a connection that isn't passing traffic please turn it up! > > Any news or anything? > > I got a Fruitopia cap! > Excellent! ######################################################################## To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1

Feb. 22, 2012

Re: Idle Mice

by Mike Horwath

On Tue, Feb 21, 2012 at 06:14:36PM -0600, Justin Krejci wrote: > Not much discussion lately on the list. There were a number of > possible things we were considering doing... there were talks about > how to handle 10Gig port consumption on the MICE switch(es), > extending layer 2 into other networks/geographies, MICE IP blocks / > ARIN fees, LLC/non-profit status, etc. I have no idea what is going on with that. There was some discussion of course, for a short period. I think the non-winter hit everyone hard creating a new kind of winter(not) depression. > Any news or anything? I got a Fruitopia cap! -- Mike Horwath ipHouse - Welcome home! drechsau(a)iphouse.net The universe is an island, surrounded by whatever it is that surrounds universes. - Berkeley Fortune ######################################################################## To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1

Feb. 22, 2012

Idle Mice

by Justin Krejci

Not much discussion lately on the list. There were a number of possible things we were considering doing... there were talks about how to handle 10Gig port consumption on the MICE switch(es), extending layer 2 into other networks/geographies, MICE IP blocks / ARIN fees, LLC/non-profit status, etc. Any news or anything? ######################################################################## To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1

Feb. 22, 2012

3G of MICE traffic

by Anthony Anderberg

Our aggregate graphs show a new record for traffic passing through MICE - just over 3 Gbps at about 8pm last night. Not bad for only a year's worth of work - kudos to everyone involved. Anthony Anderberg Sr. Systems Analyst NU-Telecom 320-234-5239 anthonyanderberg(a)nu-telecom.net ######################################################################## To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1

Feb. 6, 2012

Akamai block through MICE

by Jeremy Lumby

24.15.4.0/24 is not in the MICE routing table. When I reapplied the IP address to the repaired Akamai server, I went to ping it, and the latency was higher than expected, and the traceroute was longer then expected. I did not think that this used to be the case. Does anyone know why Akamai's block is not being advertised through MICE? Thanks, Jeremy Lumby Minnesota VoIP 9217 17th Ave S Suite 216 Bloomington, MN 55425 Main: 612-355-7740 Direct: 612-392-6814 E-Fax: 952-873-7425 jlumby(a)mnvoip.com ######################################################################## To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1

Feb. 6, 2012

Re: 511 Building Possible Site of Vikings Stadium?

by Doug McIntyre

On Sat, Feb 04, 2012 at 09:29:07PM -0600, James Montz wrote: > http://minnesota.publicradio.org/display/web/2012/02/03/regional-internet-h… Its all rather silly since the space taken up by 511 can't be more than more parking space for the vikings. They couldn't even fit a newer & bigger stadium there (even if they moved the power substation next door, which was part of the Star Tribune article a few days earlier). -- Doug McIntyre <merlyn(a)iphouse.net> -- ipHouse/Goldengate/Bitstream/ProNS -- Network Engineer/Provisioning/Jack of all Trades ######################################################################## To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1

Feb. 5, 2012

511 Building Possible Site of Vikings Stadium?

by James Montz

http://minnesota.publicradio.org/display/web/2012/02/03/regional-internet-h… --------------------------------------------------- *James C. Montz* Senior Consultant *Mankato Networks LLC* <http://www.mankatonetworks.net/>320 East Liberty Street <http://maps.google.com/maps?q=320+East+Liberty+Street%2CMankato%2CMN+56001&…>Mankato, MN 56001 *Phone:* *(320)-496-6689* *Email: jamesmontz(a)mankatonetworks.net* *Web: http://www.mankatonetworks.net Skype: james.montz* * http://www.linkedin.com/in/jmontz* ######################################################################## To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1

Feb. 5, 2012

Akamai HD replacement

by Jeremy Lumby

I will probably have some time on Monday afternoon (assuming that Monday is not too crazy). If anyone can get to it before then, please let me know. Also, if anyone gets to it before me, you will not need to make rescue CDs, I left the rescue CDs on the back side of the rack sitting on top of server #10. -----Original Message----- From: MICE Discuss [mailto:MICE-DISCUSS@LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET] On Behalf Of Jay Hanke Sent: Friday, February 03, 2012 3:08 PM To: MICE-DISCUSS(a)LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET Subject: [MICE-DISCUSS] Akamai HD replacement Mike Hemphill has a replacement drive that needs to get installed in the cluster. The box will need to get recovered with the rescue CD afterward. Any volunteers? Jay ######################################################################## To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1 ######################################################################## To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1

Feb. 4, 2012

Akamai HD replacement

by Jay Hanke

Mike Hemphill has a replacement drive that needs to get installed in the cluster. The box will need to get recovered with the rescue CD afterward. Any volunteers? Jay ######################################################################## To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1

Feb. 3, 2012

Re: 218.147.69.in-addr.arpa + 0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.f.f.f.f.0.1.e.f.7.0.6.2.ip6.arpa

by Doug McIntyre

On Thu, Jan 26, 2012 at 04:55:31PM -0600, Matthew Beckwell wrote: > I'm curious how we're maintaining reverse DNS-- (historically and going forward). > I noticed some potential housekeeping... I'd like to see ipHouse and (even though I'm not) HE's entries in 0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.f.f.f.f.0.1.e.f.7.0.6.2.ip6.arpa at least updated.. > IP ASN IPv4 Host IPv6 Host > 3 7753 AS7753.micemn.net AS53679-MRS-3.micemn.net > 52 AS6939.micemn.net Since ::3 isn't AS 53679 at all. -- Doug McIntyre <merlyn(a)iphouse.net> -- ipHouse/Goldengate/Bitstream/ProNS -- Network Engineer/Provisioning/Jack of all Trades ######################################################################## To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1

Jan. 30, 2012

Re: LAG use

by Doug McIntyre

On Fri, Jan 27, 2012 at 11:40:19PM +0000, Ryan Goldberg wrote: > Going slightly OT here, but do folks like to use LACP negotiated LAGs, or static LAGs? Just curious.. I prefer static LAGs for setup, although there have been a couple vendors that only do LACP setups that I have to match to make happy. Although typically I'd prefer static setups for most things. No auto-magic for me. -- Doug McIntyre <merlyn(a)iphouse.net> -- ipHouse/Goldengate/Bitstream/ProNS -- Network Engineer/Provisioning/Jack of all Trades ######################################################################## To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1

Jan. 28, 2012

Re: LAG use

by Ryan Goldberg

Going slightly OT here, but do folks like to use LACP negotiated LAGs, or static LAGs? Just curious.. Ryan From: MICE Discuss [mailto:MICE-DISCUSS@LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET] On Behalf Of Frank Bulk Sent: Wednesday, January 25, 2012 4:22 PM To: MICE-DISCUSS(a)LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET Subject: Re: [MICE-DISCUSS] LAG use Sounds like Jay is the only one that has used them on carrier NNIs - can you share a tier 1 or 2 name with me, off-list if you prefer? So far I have HE as the only documented Tier 1/2 carrier that uses them with customers/other providers. Thanks, Frank From: MICE Discuss [mailto:MICE-DISCUSS@LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET]<mailto:[mailto:MICE-DISCUSS@LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET]> On Behalf Of Jay Hanke Sent: Wednesday, January 25, 2012 1:13 PM To: MICE-DISCUSS(a)LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET<mailto:MICE-DISCUSS@LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET> Subject: Re: [MICE-DISCUSS] LAG use On Jan 25, 2012 12:54 PM, "Frank Bulk" <fbulk(a)mypremieronline.com<mailto:fbulk@mypremieronline.com>> wrote: Ok, Reid responded, but he's the only one. Anyone else use LAG to connect for Ethernet circuits? Yes, all the time. Works well but nothin' beats a 10G. :) Jay ________________________________ To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1 ________________________________ To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1 ######################################################################## To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1

Jan. 27, 2012

218.147.69.in-addr.arpa + 0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.f.f.f.f.0.1.e.f.7.0.6.2.ip6.arpa

by Matthew Beckwell

I'm curious how we're maintaining reverse DNS-- (historically and going forward). I noticed some potential housekeeping... ~Matthew IP ASN IPv4 Host IPv6 Host 1 53679 AS53679-MRS-1.micemn.net AS53679-MRS-1.micemn.net 2 53679 AS53679-MRS-2.micemn.net AS53679-MRS-2.micemn.net 3 7753 AS7753.micemn.net AS53679-MRS-3.micemn.net 4 4181 AS4181.micemn.net 5 21709 6 8015 7 16904 8 22402 9 46131 AS4181.micemn.net 10 11796 AS11796.micemn.net 11 32621 12 33125 13 14 15 16 17 18 12042 AS12042.micemn.net 19 10242 g1-43.usi-cr03-mpls.usinternet.com ip6.g1-43.usi-cr03-mpls.usinternet.com 20 21 22 23 24 25 13746 26 AS3599.micemn.net 27 28 29 30 31 32 33 34 35 36 37 38 39 40 41 42 43 44 AS-TBD-44.micemn.net 45 46 47 48 49 AS13576.micemn.net 50 AS32609.micemn.net 51 AS57.micemn.net 52 AS6939.micemn.net 53 54 55 56 57 58 59 60 61 62 63 64 65 66 67 68 69 70 71 72 73 74 75 76 77 78 79 80 81 82 83 84 85 86 87 88 89 90 91 92 93 94 95 96 97 98 99 100 53480 ASN53545.micemn.net 101 47096 ASN-TBD-101.micemn.net 102 20338 ASN-TBD-102.micemn.net 103 30032 104 46692 105 15011 106 25852 -- Matthew Beckwell - Senior Network and Application Engineer Advanced Integrated Technologies Office: 952-829-5511 x204 matthewb(a)aitech.net ######################################################################## To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1

Jan. 26, 2012

Fwd: AS4181 TDS Telecom router maintenance at MICE

by Jay Hanke

---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: TDSNET ISP Administration <ispadmin(a)tdstelecom.com> Date: Thu, Jan 26, 2012 at 3:52 PM Subject: AS4181 TDS Telecom router maintenance at MICE To: TDSNET ISP Administration <ispadmin(a)tdstelecom.com> Hello peering partners, TDS Telecom, AS4181, will be completing router maintenance on our equipment connected to MICE on January 27, 2012, starting at 22:01 CST. We expect to be offline for approximately 1 hour. You can expect to see your BGP sessions to our network go down during our work. MICE TDS ASN 4181 TDS IPs 69.147.218.4 2607:fe10:ffff::4 If we have reached an incorrect address for this notice, please let us know so that we can update our records. Best Regards, TDS Telecom IP Network Operations ispadmin(a)tdstelecom.com -- Jay Hanke CTO, CCIE #19093 Mankato Networks LLC 619 S Front St Mankato, MN 56001-3838 Google 530-618-2398 jayhanke(a)mankatonetworks.net http://www.mankatonetworks.com ######################################################################## To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1

Jan. 26, 2012

Re: LAG use

by Owen DeLong

Well, there's always 40GE or 100GE, too. Owen On Jan 25, 2012, at 11:14 AM, Reid Fishler wrote: > Other than 2 10G's LAGed together, of course! > > Reid > > On Wed, Jan 25, 2012 at 2:12 PM, Jay Hanke <jayhanke(a)mankatonetworks.net> wrote: > On Jan 25, 2012 12:54 PM, "Frank Bulk" <fbulk(a)mypremieronline.com> wrote: > > Ok, Reid responded, but he's the only one. Anyone else use LAG to connect for Ethernet circuits? > > Yes, all the time. Works well but nothin' beats a 10G. :) > > Jay > > To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: > http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1 > > > > > -- > Reid Fishler > Director > Hurricane Electric > +1-510-580-4178 > > To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: > http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1 > ######################################################################## To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1

Jan. 25, 2012

Re: LAG use

by Frank Bulk

Sounds like Jay is the only one that has used them on carrier NNIs - can you share a tier 1 or 2 name with me, off-list if you prefer? So far I have HE as the only documented Tier 1/2 carrier that uses them with customers/other providers. Thanks, Frank From: MICE Discuss [mailto:MICE-DISCUSS@LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET] On Behalf Of Jay Hanke Sent: Wednesday, January 25, 2012 1:13 PM To: MICE-DISCUSS(a)LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET Subject: Re: [MICE-DISCUSS] LAG use On Jan 25, 2012 12:54 PM, "Frank Bulk" <fbulk(a)mypremieronline.com<mailto:fbulk@mypremieronline.com>> wrote: Ok, Reid responded, but he's the only one. Anyone else use LAG to connect for Ethernet circuits? Yes, all the time. Works well but nothin' beats a 10G. :) Jay ________________________________ To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1 ######################################################################## To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1

Jan. 25, 2012

Re: LAG use

by Frank Bulk

Sounds like Jay is the only one that has used them on carrier NNIs - can you share a tier 1 or 2 name with me, off-list if you prefer? So far I have HE as the only documented Tier 1/2 carrier that uses them with customers/other providers. Thanks, Frank From: MICE Discuss [mailto:MICE-DISCUSS@LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET] On Behalf Of Jay Hanke Sent: Wednesday, January 25, 2012 1:13 PM To: MICE-DISCUSS(a)LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET Subject: Re: [MICE-DISCUSS] LAG use On Jan 25, 2012 12:54 PM, "Frank Bulk" <fbulk(a)mypremieronline.com<mailto:fbulk@mypremieronline.com>> wrote: Ok, Reid responded, but he's the only one. Anyone else use LAG to connect for Ethernet circuits? Yes, all the time. Works well but nothin' beats a 10G. :) Jay ________________________________ To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1 ######################################################################## To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1

Jan. 25, 2012

Re: LAG use

by Anthony Anderberg

The only thing I can think of is that you'd probably want the members of a LAG group to always have very similar performance characteristics (capacity, latency, ect). That's pretty easy with a dedicated lambda/fiber but may require some thought in shared transport environments - for example you'd want to ensure one member couldn't take a longer path and incur a lot more latency than other members. But that's just traffic engineering... We haven't had any requests for such things, but I certainly wouldn't be scared of doing them. Anthony Anderberg Sr. Systems Analyst 320-234-5239 anthonyanderberg(a)nu-telecom.net NU-Telecom -----Original Message----- From: MICE Discuss [mailto:MICE-DISCUSS@LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET] On Behalf Of Frank Bulk Sent: Wednesday, January 25, 2012 12:54 PM To: MICE-DISCUSS(a)LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET Subject: Re: [MICE-DISCUSS] LAG use Ok, Reid responded, but he's the only one. Anyone else use LAG to connect for Ethernet circuits? Frank -----Original Message----- From: MICE Discuss [mailto:MICE-DISCUSS@LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET] On Behalf Of Frank Bulk Sent: Friday, January 20, 2012 4:44 PM To: MICE-DISCUSS(a)LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET Subject: [MICE-DISCUSS] LAG use I've been working with our state's telco coop to enhance our Ethernet circuit redundancy. (This is not for Internet circuits, but Ethernet circuits like wireless backhaul). The coop doesn't do a lot of LAG today, except for large customers that have purchased many circuits. Since our transport gear has that capability and we have the ports we'd like to do it, too. To help bolster our case, we're looking for examples where tier 1/2 carriers do LAG with their customers. Can anyone on this list share (on or off list) some examples)? Frank ######################################################################## To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1 ######################################################################## To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1 ######################################################################## To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1

Jan. 25, 2012

Re: LAG use

by Reid Fishler

Other than 2 10G's LAGed together, of course! Reid On Wed, Jan 25, 2012 at 2:12 PM, Jay Hanke <jayhanke(a)mankatonetworks.net>wrote: > On Jan 25, 2012 12:54 PM, "Frank Bulk" <fbulk(a)mypremieronline.com> wrote: > >> Ok, Reid responded, but he's the only one. Anyone else use LAG to >> connect for Ethernet circuits? >> > > Yes, all the time. Works well but nothin' beats a 10G. :) > > Jay > > ------------------------------ > > To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: > http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1 > -- Reid Fishler Director Hurricane Electric +1-510-580-4178 ######################################################################## To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1

Jan. 25, 2012

Re: LAG use

by Jay Hanke

On Jan 25, 2012 12:54 PM, "Frank Bulk" <fbulk(a)mypremieronline.com> wrote: > Ok, Reid responded, but he's the only one. Anyone else use LAG to connect > for Ethernet circuits? > Yes, all the time. Works well but nothin' beats a 10G. :) Jay ######################################################################## To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1

Jan. 25, 2012

Re: LAG use

by Mike Horwath

On Wed, Jan 25, 2012 at 01:07:10PM -0600, Eric Crist wrote: > We're not a telco or ISP, but we use LAG internally for switch > trunks, we've found it to work well, generally. we do too. haven't had a customer ask for it over a metro-ethernet connection yet though. -- Mike Horwath ipHouse - Welcome home! drechsau(a)iphouse.net The universe is an island, surrounded by whatever it is that surrounds universes. - Berkeley Fortune ######################################################################## To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1

Jan. 25, 2012

Re: LAG use

by Eric Crist

We're not a telco or ISP, but we use LAG internally for switch trunks, we've found it to work well, generally. --- Eric F Crist System Administrator ClaimLynx, Inc (952) 593-5969 x2301 On Jan 25, 2012, at 12:54:06, Frank Bulk wrote: > Ok, Reid responded, but he's the only one. Anyone else use LAG to connect for Ethernet circuits? > > Frank > > -----Original Message----- > From: MICE Discuss [mailto:MICE-DISCUSS@LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET] On Behalf Of Frank Bulk > Sent: Friday, January 20, 2012 4:44 PM > To: MICE-DISCUSS(a)LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET > Subject: [MICE-DISCUSS] LAG use > > I've been working with our state's telco coop to enhance our Ethernet circuit redundancy. (This is not for Internet circuits, but Ethernet circuits like wireless backhaul). The coop doesn't do a lot of LAG today, except for large customers that have purchased many circuits. Since our transport gear has that capability and we have the ports we'd like to do it, too. To help bolster our case, we're looking for examples where tier 1/2 carriers do LAG with their customers. > > Can anyone on this list share (on or off list) some examples)? > > Frank > > ######################################################################## > > To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: > http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1 > > ######################################################################## > > To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: > http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1 ######################################################################## To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1

Jan. 25, 2012

Re: LAG use

by Frank Bulk

Ok, Reid responded, but he's the only one. Anyone else use LAG to connect for Ethernet circuits? Frank -----Original Message----- From: MICE Discuss [mailto:MICE-DISCUSS@LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET] On Behalf Of Frank Bulk Sent: Friday, January 20, 2012 4:44 PM To: MICE-DISCUSS(a)LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET Subject: [MICE-DISCUSS] LAG use I've been working with our state's telco coop to enhance our Ethernet circuit redundancy. (This is not for Internet circuits, but Ethernet circuits like wireless backhaul). The coop doesn't do a lot of LAG today, except for large customers that have purchased many circuits. Since our transport gear has that capability and we have the ports we'd like to do it, too. To help bolster our case, we're looking for examples where tier 1/2 carriers do LAG with their customers. Can anyone on this list share (on or off list) some examples)? Frank ######################################################################## To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1 ######################################################################## To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1

Jan. 25, 2012

Re: NANOG San Diego

by Steve Howard

I'll be there. Current plan is to arrive Sunday night. My wife is also coming along this time. On 01/23/2012 05:32 PM, Jay Hanke wrote: > Is anyone else going to NANOG in San Diego? > > Jay > > ######################################################################## > > To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: > http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1 > > ######################################################################## To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1

Jan. 24, 2012

Re: NANOG San Diego

by Andrew Hoyos

On Jan 23, 2012, at 5:32 PM, Jay Hanke wrote: > Is anyone else going to NANOG in San Diego? I'll be there - need a break from the cold ;-) There is a few others from the WI contingent too. Flying in with wife+kid on Thursday prior, if anyone wants to do something 'family-orientated' (SD Zoo for sure!) -- Andrew Hoyos hoyosa(a)gmail.com ######################################################################## To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1

Jan. 23, 2012

NANOG San Diego

by Jay Hanke

Is anyone else going to NANOG in San Diego? Jay ######################################################################## To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1

Jan. 23, 2012

New Omaha Exchange

by Jay Hanke

All, I'm working on building a new exchange in the Omaha area. If you are interested or know those who may be interested please send them my way! Thanks, Jay ######################################################################## To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1

Jan. 23, 2012

Re: would MICE be willing to designate me as it's representative to ICANN?

by John Unger

You have our vote!!! Minneapolis | Alexandria | St. Cloud John Unger President d: 612.238.1601 c: 612.325.2909 john(a)vaultas.com www.vaultas.com This message is intended only for the named recipient(s) and may contain confidential, proprietary or legally privileged information. No confidentiality or privilege is waived or lost by any misdirected transmission. If you received this message in error, please notify us immediately by telephone at 612.325.2909 and immediately delete this message from your system. If you are not the intended recipient, you must not use, disclose, distribute or copy any part of this message. -----Original Message----- From: MICE Discuss [mailto:MICE-DISCUSS@LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET] On Behalf Of Dan Boehlke Sent: Sunday, January 22, 2012 9:08 AM To: MICE-DISCUSS(a)LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET Subject: Re: [MICE-DISCUSS] would MICE be willing to designate me as it's representative to ICANN? Greetings, Having known Mike for a long time, I know his work at ICANN would benefit the entire MICE community. I support Mike's proposal and would recommend that we allow mice to go forward with our designation and support. It is in our interests to have individuals from our community in Internet governance. Thank you. -- Dan Boehlke 651-341-6880 On Jan 22, 2012, at 6:52 AM, "Mike O'Connor" <mike(a)HAVEN2.COM> wrote: > hi all, > > i'm hunting for a different home-base in the ICANN scheme of things (long story, happy to share, but probably boring for y'all). right now i'm in the "Business constituency" which you can read about at http://www.bizconst.org/. i'm trying to swing over to the ISP constituency (http://www.ispcp.info/) mostly because it's a better fit for my interests, but also because the Business constituency is making me sick to my stomach and i don't want to be a part of that gang any more (another really long story). > > so i was wondering if MICE (or any of you individual members) would be willing to designate me your ICANN representative so's i could switch. this will be a pretty light burden for y'all -- i'll pay all the expenses, give you reports on interesting stuff having to do with DNS and IP-address policy issues, collect your views, carry them off to ICANN, etc. > > i just need a new place to stand inside of ICANN and you're the gang i'd like to stand with. > > questions? comments? ideas? > > mikey > > > - - - - - - - - - > phone 651-647-6109 > fax 866-280-2356 > web http://www.haven2.com > handle OConnorStP (ID for public places like Twitter, Facebook, Google, etc.) > > ######################################################################## > > To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: > http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1 ######################################################################## To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1 ######################################################################## To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1

Jan. 23, 2012

Re: would MICE be willing to designate me as it's representative to ICANN?

by Jeremy Lumby

You have my vote -----Original Message----- From: MICE Discuss [mailto:MICE-DISCUSS@LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET] On Behalf Of Mike O'Connor Sent: Sunday, January 22, 2012 10:49 AM To: MICE-DISCUSS(a)LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET Subject: Re: [MICE-DISCUSS] would MICE be willing to designate me as it's representative to ICANN? thanks Dan! hm… Dan's note made me realize that it's not the Old Days any more and that many of you don't know me at all. so my terse little request comes out of the blue. let me remedy that. i'm extra thankful that Dan fired off that note. i've been a fan and observer of MICE since the beginning, but except for lurking on the list and showing up at some of the meetings i haven't done a lick of work on this project. i'd be happy to pull a little harder on the oars in exchange for your allowing me to pay for your membership in ICANN and being one of your representatives. here's a link to my bio -- http://www.haven2.com/index.php/bio here's a link to my page on ICANN-wiki (where you can find out about all kinda ICANN stuff) -- http://icannwiki.com/index.php/Mike_O%27Connor you'll see on the ICANN page that i do a bunch of work on working groups -- mostly focused on the security and stability kinda stuff. my problem with the Business Constituency has always been that it is quite tilted towards the interests of intellectual property owners and large corporations fending off cybersquatters. it's not that i disagree with them, but i've always felt that the view of the business community should be broader than that. and besides, there's a whole 'nother constituency that's supposed to be looking out for the interests of intellectual property. so i've been toiling away for years trying to carry that broader agenda inside the constituency. but this past few months have seen the constituency backslide a bit. first with the way we were playing both sides of the fence in the US Congress on the introduction of new gTLDs and then with the SOPA/PIPA legislation. so i'm getting tired of the ambiguity. the nice thing about the ISP constituency is that their agenda is much less political and a lot better aligned with my interests. so there's a bit more of the story, and a better job of introducing myself to those of you who don't know me. sorry about that, mikey On Jan 22, 2012, at 9:08 AM, Dan Boehlke wrote: > Greetings, > > Having known Mike for a long time, I know his work at ICANN would benefit the entire MICE community. I support Mike's proposal and would recommend that we allow mice to go forward with our designation and support. It is in our interests to have individuals from our community in Internet governance. > > Thank you. > > -- > Dan Boehlke > 651-341-6880 > > > On Jan 22, 2012, at 6:52 AM, "Mike O'Connor" <mike(a)HAVEN2.COM> wrote: > >> hi all, >> >> i'm hunting for a different home-base in the ICANN scheme of things (long story, happy to share, but probably boring for y'all). right now i'm in the "Business constituency" which you can read about at http://www.bizconst.org/. i'm trying to swing over to the ISP constituency (http://www.ispcp.info/) mostly because it's a better fit for my interests, but also because the Business constituency is making me sick to my stomach and i don't want to be a part of that gang any more (another really long story). >> >> so i was wondering if MICE (or any of you individual members) would be willing to designate me your ICANN representative so's i could switch. this will be a pretty light burden for y'all -- i'll pay all the expenses, give you reports on interesting stuff having to do with DNS and IP-address policy issues, collect your views, carry them off to ICANN, etc. >> >> i just need a new place to stand inside of ICANN and you're the gang i'd like to stand with. >> >> questions? comments? ideas? >> >> mikey >> >> >> - - - - - - - - - >> phone 651-647-6109 >> fax 866-280-2356 >> web http://www.haven2.com >> handle OConnorStP (ID for public places like Twitter, Facebook, Google, etc.) >> >> ##################################################################### >> ### >> >> To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: >> http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1 > > ###################################################################### > ## > > To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: > http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1 - - - - - - - - - phone 651-647-6109 fax 866-280-2356 web http://www.haven2.com handle OConnorStP (ID for public places like Twitter, Facebook, Google, etc.) ######################################################################## To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1 ######################################################################## To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1

Jan. 22, 2012

Re: would MICE be willing to designate me as it's representative to ICANN?

by Mike O'Connor

thanks Dan! hm… Dan's note made me realize that it's not the Old Days any more and that many of you don't know me at all. so my terse little request comes out of the blue. let me remedy that. i'm extra thankful that Dan fired off that note. i've been a fan and observer of MICE since the beginning, but except for lurking on the list and showing up at some of the meetings i haven't done a lick of work on this project. i'd be happy to pull a little harder on the oars in exchange for your allowing me to pay for your membership in ICANN and being one of your representatives. here's a link to my bio -- http://www.haven2.com/index.php/bio here's a link to my page on ICANN-wiki (where you can find out about all kinda ICANN stuff) -- http://icannwiki.com/index.php/Mike_O%27Connor you'll see on the ICANN page that i do a bunch of work on working groups -- mostly focused on the security and stability kinda stuff. my problem with the Business Constituency has always been that it is quite tilted towards the interests of intellectual property owners and large corporations fending off cybersquatters. it's not that i disagree with them, but i've always felt that the view of the business community should be broader than that. and besides, there's a whole 'nother constituency that's supposed to be looking out for the interests of intellectual property. so i've been toiling away for years trying to carry that broader agenda inside the constituency. but this past few months have seen the constituency backslide a bit. first with the way we were playing both sides of the fence in the US Congress on the introduction of new gTLDs and then with the SOPA/PIPA legislation. so i'm getting tired of the ambiguity. the nice thing about the ISP constituency is that their agenda is much less political and a lot better aligned with my interests. so there's a bit more of the story, and a better job of introducing myself to those of you who don't know me. sorry about that, mikey On Jan 22, 2012, at 9:08 AM, Dan Boehlke wrote: > Greetings, > > Having known Mike for a long time, I know his work at ICANN would benefit the entire MICE community. I support Mike's proposal and would recommend that we allow mice to go forward with our designation and support. It is in our interests to have individuals from our community in Internet governance. > > Thank you. > > -- > Dan Boehlke > 651-341-6880 > > > On Jan 22, 2012, at 6:52 AM, "Mike O'Connor" <mike(a)HAVEN2.COM> wrote: > >> hi all, >> >> i'm hunting for a different home-base in the ICANN scheme of things (long story, happy to share, but probably boring for y'all). right now i'm in the "Business constituency" which you can read about at http://www.bizconst.org/. i'm trying to swing over to the ISP constituency (http://www.ispcp.info/) mostly because it's a better fit for my interests, but also because the Business constituency is making me sick to my stomach and i don't want to be a part of that gang any more (another really long story). >> >> so i was wondering if MICE (or any of you individual members) would be willing to designate me your ICANN representative so's i could switch. this will be a pretty light burden for y'all -- i'll pay all the expenses, give you reports on interesting stuff having to do with DNS and IP-address policy issues, collect your views, carry them off to ICANN, etc. >> >> i just need a new place to stand inside of ICANN and you're the gang i'd like to stand with. >> >> questions? comments? ideas? >> >> mikey >> >> >> - - - - - - - - - >> phone 651-647-6109 >> fax 866-280-2356 >> web http://www.haven2.com >> handle OConnorStP (ID for public places like Twitter, Facebook, Google, etc.) >> >> ######################################################################## >> >> To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: >> http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1 > > ######################################################################## > > To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: > http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1 - - - - - - - - - phone 651-647-6109 fax 866-280-2356 web http://www.haven2.com handle OConnorStP (ID for public places like Twitter, Facebook, Google, etc.) ######################################################################## To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1

Jan. 22, 2012

Re: would MICE be willing to designate me as it's representative to ICANN?

by Mike Horwath

On Jan 22, 2012, at 6:52 AM, Mike O'Connor wrote: > hi all, [snip] If a vote: I say A-OK! I can't find anything negative off of the top of my head. -- Mike Horwath drechsau(a)iphouse.net The universe is an island, surrounded by whatever it is that surrounds universes. - Berkely Fortune ######################################################################## To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1

Jan. 22, 2012

Re: would MICE be willing to designate me as it's representative to ICANN?

by Dan Boehlke

Greetings, Having known Mike for a long time, I know his work at ICANN would benefit the entire MICE community. I support Mike's proposal and would recommend that we allow mice to go forward with our designation and support. It is in our interests to have individuals from our community in Internet governance. Thank you. -- Dan Boehlke 651-341-6880 On Jan 22, 2012, at 6:52 AM, "Mike O'Connor" <mike(a)HAVEN2.COM> wrote: > hi all, > > i'm hunting for a different home-base in the ICANN scheme of things (long story, happy to share, but probably boring for y'all). right now i'm in the "Business constituency" which you can read about at http://www.bizconst.org/. i'm trying to swing over to the ISP constituency (http://www.ispcp.info/) mostly because it's a better fit for my interests, but also because the Business constituency is making me sick to my stomach and i don't want to be a part of that gang any more (another really long story). > > so i was wondering if MICE (or any of you individual members) would be willing to designate me your ICANN representative so's i could switch. this will be a pretty light burden for y'all -- i'll pay all the expenses, give you reports on interesting stuff having to do with DNS and IP-address policy issues, collect your views, carry them off to ICANN, etc. > > i just need a new place to stand inside of ICANN and you're the gang i'd like to stand with. > > questions? comments? ideas? > > mikey > > > - - - - - - - - - > phone 651-647-6109 > fax 866-280-2356 > web http://www.haven2.com > handle OConnorStP (ID for public places like Twitter, Facebook, Google, etc.) > > ######################################################################## > > To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: > http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1 ######################################################################## To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1

Jan. 22, 2012

would MICE be willing to designate me as it's representative to ICANN?

by Mike O'Connor

hi all, i'm hunting for a different home-base in the ICANN scheme of things (long story, happy to share, but probably boring for y'all). right now i'm in the "Business constituency" which you can read about at http://www.bizconst.org/. i'm trying to swing over to the ISP constituency (http://www.ispcp.info/) mostly because it's a better fit for my interests, but also because the Business constituency is making me sick to my stomach and i don't want to be a part of that gang any more (another really long story). so i was wondering if MICE (or any of you individual members) would be willing to designate me your ICANN representative so's i could switch. this will be a pretty light burden for y'all -- i'll pay all the expenses, give you reports on interesting stuff having to do with DNS and IP-address policy issues, collect your views, carry them off to ICANN, etc. i just need a new place to stand inside of ICANN and you're the gang i'd like to stand with. questions? comments? ideas? mikey - - - - - - - - - phone 651-647-6109 fax 866-280-2356 web http://www.haven2.com handle OConnorStP (ID for public places like Twitter, Facebook, Google, etc.) ######################################################################## To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1

Jan. 22, 2012

Re: LAG use

by Reid Fishler

We do LAG all the time with our customers. Reid On Fri, Jan 20, 2012 at 5:44 PM, Frank Bulk <fbulk(a)mypremieronline.com>wrote: > I've been working with our state's telco coop to enhance our Ethernet > circuit redundancy. (This is not for Internet circuits, but Ethernet > circuits like wireless backhaul). The coop doesn't do a lot of LAG today, > except for large customers that have purchased many circuits. Since our > transport gear has that capability and we have the ports we'd like to do > it, too. To help bolster our case, we're looking for examples where tier > 1/2 carriers do LAG with their customers. > > Can anyone on this list share (on or off list) some examples)? > > Frank > > ######################################################################## > > To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: > http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1 > > -- Reid Fishler Director Hurricane Electric +1-510-580-4178 ######################################################################## To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1

Jan. 20, 2012

LAG use

by Frank Bulk

I've been working with our state's telco coop to enhance our Ethernet circuit redundancy. (This is not for Internet circuits, but Ethernet circuits like wireless backhaul). The coop doesn't do a lot of LAG today, except for large customers that have purchased many circuits. Since our transport gear has that capability and we have the ports we'd like to do it, too. To help bolster our case, we're looking for examples where tier 1/2 carriers do LAG with their customers. Can anyone on this list share (on or off list) some examples)? Frank ######################################################################## To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1

Jan. 20, 2012

Re: Stats Collection for CNS Switch

by Doug McIntyre

On Tue, Jan 10, 2012 at 03:21:17PM -0600, Andrew Hoyos wrote: > Just a suggestion: would it make more sense for each of the folks providing space/power for the switches to provide a /29 or /31 for OOB management, rather than inband management within the MICE subnet? FWIW: The juniper switch stack is already that way, we push down a small routable block that 216.250.183.11 is in. -- Doug McIntyre <merlyn(a)iphouse.net> -- ipHouse/Goldengate/Bitstream/ProNS -- Network Engineer/Provisioning/Jack of all Trades ######################################################################## To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1

Jan. 10, 2012

Re: MKE IX Status

by Justin Krejci

I will drop a note to Red Anvil, they may be interested if they're not already involved. On Tue, 2012-01-10 at 15:37 -0600, Andrew Hoyos wrote: > On Jan 10, 2012, at 3:23 PM, Jay Hanke wrote: > > > I was going to hijack the other thread but cooler heads prevailed. > > > > Andrew, How is the MKE exchange coming? > > > We're live with a few participants in the 324 E Wisconsin building in Milwaukee! > > For those curious, > > - MKEIX all non profit / free exchange in Milwaukee, WI > - Brocade donated two CES2k 24 port SFP's to get the exchange running > - We've live in suite 433 of the building (Netwurx) > - The 2nd switch is placed in suite 825 (TSR Solutions), and we're finishing up with cross connects between the two over the next few weeks. > - TSR Solutions is a bit more carrier heavy as far as tenants, so we're adding another 5+ participants when that goes live. > > If there is anyone lurking on the list with a presence in WI (specifically Madison or Milwaukee) interested in the IX, let me know! > > There is a mailing list and website, which can be found here: www.mkeix.net > > Thanks, > Andrew > > -- > Andrew Hoyos > hoyosa(a)gmail.com > > ######################################################################## > > To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: > http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1 ######################################################################## To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1

Jan. 10, 2012

Re: Stats Collection for CNS Switch

by Jay Hanke

> SUSPENSE IS KILLING ME! Looks like the agg graph just about doubled... Jay ######################################################################## To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1

Jan. 10, 2012

Re: MKE IX Status

by Andrew Hoyos

On Jan 10, 2012, at 3:23 PM, Jay Hanke wrote: > I was going to hijack the other thread but cooler heads prevailed. > > Andrew, How is the MKE exchange coming? We're live with a few participants in the 324 E Wisconsin building in Milwaukee! For those curious, - MKEIX all non profit / free exchange in Milwaukee, WI - Brocade donated two CES2k 24 port SFP's to get the exchange running - We've live in suite 433 of the building (Netwurx) - The 2nd switch is placed in suite 825 (TSR Solutions), and we're finishing up with cross connects between the two over the next few weeks. - TSR Solutions is a bit more carrier heavy as far as tenants, so we're adding another 5+ participants when that goes live. If there is anyone lurking on the list with a presence in WI (specifically Madison or Milwaukee) interested in the IX, let me know! There is a mailing list and website, which can be found here: www.mkeix.net Thanks, Andrew -- Andrew Hoyos hoyosa(a)gmail.com ######################################################################## To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1

Jan. 10, 2012

Re: Stats Collection for CNS Switch

by Mike Horwath

On Tue, Jan 10, 2012 at 03:21:17PM -0600, Andrew Hoyos wrote: > Just a suggestion: would it make more sense for each of the folks > providing space/power for the switches to provide a /29 or /31 for > OOB management, rather than inband management within the MICE > subnet? > > That way, it's kinda separated, and nobody has to worry about static > routing stuff different places, or distributing the IX subnet > itself. > > IX subnet = IX participant routers only then SUSPENSE IS KILLING ME! :) I'd be happy to provide the switch subnetting requirements for OOB (for switches that have OOB that is). but anyone else can take the helm on that as well. -- Mike Horwath ipHouse - Welcome home! drechsau(a)iphouse.net The universe is an island, surrounded by whatever it is that surrounds universes. - Berkeley Fortune ######################################################################## To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1

Jan. 10, 2012