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Re: Juniper Upgrade

by Jeremy Lumby

I agree with Owen From: MICE Discuss [mailto:MICE-DISCUSS@LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET] On Behalf Of Owen DeLong Sent: Friday, July 20, 2012 5:36 PM To: MICE-DISCUSS(a)LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET Subject: Re: [MICE-DISCUSS] Juniper Upgrade For MICE to be viable as an exchange long term, connections to MICE need to cover upgrades like this as well as maintenance, etc. It's great that people are willing to donate hardware/money, but, I would like to see MICE develop a longer-term view of its own financial support where all members pay a fair share and we should be building up a reserve that can initially purchase any needed hardware that MICE doesn't own and later can provide for unforseen events. Owen On Jul 20, 2012, at 2:52 PM, Jay Hanke wrote: As you may be aware, a waiting list is starting to form for 10G ports on the main switch. The Juniper switches in the core are on long term demo and will need to be returned to the pool at some point. In addition, there are members that are looking for 10G LAG connections to the main switch. I talked to Juniper and they will allow us to swap our existing stack of EX4200's for a steeply discounted EX4500. http://www.juniper.net/us/en/products-services/switching/ex-series/ex4500/ The new switch would give us 40 1G/10G ports and the ability to add additional shelves in the future with 128 Gb/s VC uplinks. If there was sufficient interest and support I believe we could deploy a set out of the gate to provide redundancy. The plan would be to move anyone with a FastEthernet connection to one of the remote switches. After the trade in, the cost to MICE would be $4485 + $1158 (Next Day Support) + any sales taxes (if any). MICE would own the switch. None of the current switches are owned by MICE and their use is at the whim of their respective owners. This would prevent any of the members from taking their ball and going home. We already have a pledge of $3000 for the upgrade from an existing MICE member. Thanks, Jay To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1 To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1 ######################################################################## To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1

July 20, 2012

Re: Juniper Upgrade

by Owen DeLong

For MICE to be viable as an exchange long term, connections to MICE need to cover upgrades like this as well as maintenance, etc. It's great that people are willing to donate hardware/money, but, I would like to see MICE develop a longer-term view of its own financial support where all members pay a fair share and we should be building up a reserve that can initially purchase any needed hardware that MICE doesn't own and later can provide for unforseen events. Owen On Jul 20, 2012, at 2:52 PM, Jay Hanke wrote: > As you may be aware, a waiting list is starting to form for 10G ports on the main switch. The Juniper switches in the core are on long term demo and will need to be returned to the pool at some point. In addition, there are members that are looking for 10G LAG connections to the main switch. > > I talked to Juniper and they will allow us to swap our existing stack of EX4200's for a steeply discounted EX4500. > > http://www.juniper.net/us/en/products-services/switching/ex-series/ex4500/ > > The new switch would give us 40 1G/10G ports and the ability to add additional shelves in the future with 128 Gb/s VC uplinks. If there was sufficient interest and support I believe we could deploy a set out of the gate to provide redundancy. The plan would be to move anyone with a FastEthernet connection to one of the remote switches. > > After the trade in, the cost to MICE would be $4485 + $1158 (Next Day Support) + any sales taxes (if any). > > MICE would own the switch. None of the current switches are owned by MICE and their use is at the whim of their respective owners. This would prevent any of the members from taking their ball and going home. > > We already have a pledge of $3000 for the upgrade from an existing MICE member. > > Thanks, > > Jay > > > To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: > http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1 > ######################################################################## To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1

July 20, 2012

Re: Juniper Upgrade

by Jay Hanke

> > Notice: maximum of 2 EX4500s per VC stack if I remember correctly. > Up to 10 VC Members max, the links are individual 64 Gb/s PCI links 2 per switch or Nx10G from uplink modules on the front of the switch. LAG can span switches. Jay ######################################################################## To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1

July 20, 2012

Re: Juniper Upgrade

by Mike Horwath

On Fri, Jul 20, 2012 at 04:52:15PM -0500, Jay Hanke wrote: > The new switch would give us 40 1G/10G ports and the ability to add > additional shelves in the future with 128 Gb/s VC uplinks. If there > was sufficient interest and support I believe we could deploy a set > out of the gate to provide redundancy. The plan would be to move > anyone with a FastEthernet connection to one of the remote switches. Notice: maximum of 2 EX4500s per VC stack if I remember correctly. Also, you could have 2 EX4200s + 2 EX 4500s in a single stack as well. Or 8 EX4200s but I don't think we need that many 1Gbps ports. > We already have a pledge of $3000 for the upgrade from an existing > MICE member. THANK YOU MEMBER! -- Mike Horwath ipHouse - Welcome home! drechsau(a)iphouse.net The universe is an island, surrounded by whatever it is that surrounds universes. - Berkeley Fortune ######################################################################## To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1

July 20, 2012

Juniper Upgrade

by Jay Hanke

As you may be aware, a waiting list is starting to form for 10G ports on the main switch. The Juniper switches in the core are on long term demo and will need to be returned to the pool at some point. In addition, there are members that are looking for 10G LAG connections to the main switch. I talked to Juniper and they will allow us to swap our existing stack of EX4200's for a steeply discounted EX4500. http://www.juniper.net/us/en/products-services/switching/ex-series/ex4500/ The new switch would give us 40 1G/10G ports and the ability to add additional shelves in the future with 128 Gb/s VC uplinks. If there was sufficient interest and support I believe we could deploy a set out of the gate to provide redundancy. The plan would be to move anyone with a FastEthernet connection to one of the remote switches. After the trade in, the cost to MICE would be $4485 + $1158 (Next Day Support) + any sales taxes (if any). MICE would own the switch. None of the current switches are owned by MICE and their use is at the whim of their respective owners. This would prevent any of the members from taking their ball and going home. We already have a pledge of $3000 for the upgrade from an existing MICE member. Thanks, Jay ######################################################################## To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1

July 20, 2012

Re: [MICE-ANNOUNCE] MICE UG7 - Save the date

by Mike Bushard, Jr

Arvig could possible help out with some food sponsorship. Mike Bushard, Jr | Network Engineer IV | Arvig | 320.256.7471 Office | 320.256.0178 Direct | 320.429.0837 Mobile ** NEW NUMBER ** | 320-256-7555 Fax *** Please update your address book with my new work email: mike.bushard(a)arvig.com *** -----Original Message----- From: MICE Announcements [mailto:MICE-ANNOUNCE@LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET] On Behalf Of Jay Hanke Sent: Monday, July 16, 2012 3:34 PM To: MICE-ANNOUNCE(a)LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET Subject: [MICE-ANNOUNCE] MICE UG7 - Save the date MICE UG 7 will be Wednesday October 3, 2012 @ 3 PM. I'll forward details as soon as I have them. We're looking for a food and drink sponsor... -- Jay Hanke CTO, CCIE #19093 Mankato Networks LLC PO Box 54 619 S Front St Mankato, MN 56001-3838 Google 530-618-2398 jayhanke(a)mankatonetworks.net http://www.mankatonetworks.com ######################################################################## To unsubscribe from the MICE-ANNOUNCE list, click the following link: &*TICKET_URL(MICE-ANNOUNCE,SIGNOFF); ######################################################################## To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1

July 16, 2012

Re: MICE UG7- Save the date

by Dean Bahls

CNS would be willing to kick in for this. Thanks, Dean -----Original Message----- From: MICE Discuss [mailto:MICE-DISCUSS@LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET] On Behalf Of Jay Hanke Sent: Monday, July 16, 2012 3:33 PM To: MICE-DISCUSS(a)LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET Subject: [MICE-DISCUSS] MICE UG7- Save the date MICE UG 7 will be Wednesday October 3, 2012 @ 3 PM. I'll forward details as soon as I have them. We're looking for a food and drink sponsor... -- Jay Hanke CTO, CCIE #19093 Mankato Networks LLC PO Box 54 619 S Front St Mankato, MN 56001-3838 Google 530-618-2398 jayhanke(a)mankatonetworks.net http://www.mankatonetworks.com ######################################################################## To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1 ----- No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2012.0.2195 / Virus Database: 2437/5135 - Release Date: 07/16/12 ######################################################################## To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1

July 16, 2012

MICE UG7- Save the date

by Jay Hanke

MICE UG 7 will be Wednesday October 3, 2012 @ 3 PM. I'll forward details as soon as I have them. We're looking for a food and drink sponsor... -- Jay Hanke CTO, CCIE #19093 Mankato Networks LLC PO Box 54 619 S Front St Mankato, MN 56001-3838 Google 530-618-2398 jayhanke(a)mankatonetworks.net http://www.mankatonetworks.com ######################################################################## To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1

July 16, 2012

Re: HE funniness?

by Reid Fishler

This is the reason for the problem, and as Andy said, it has been corrected. :-) Sorry for any problems this caused. Reid On Wed, Jul 11, 2012 at 1:33 PM, Andy Erickson <aerickson(a)stellarllc.net>wrote: > HE’s NOC Response:**** > > ** ** > > “There was a routing loop upstream of MSP which has since been resolved”** > ** > > ** ** > > -Andy**** > > ** ** > > ** ** > > [image: Stellar.jpg] > > **** > > Andy Erickson - CCNP | CCSP > Chief Technical Officer**** > > Stellar Association, LLC > e: aerickson(a)stellarllc.net**** > > p: 320.834.3751**** > > ** ** > > ** ** > > *From:* MICE Discuss [mailto:MICE-DISCUSS@LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET] *On Behalf > Of *Matthew Beckwell > *Sent:* Wednesday, July 11, 2012 12:32 PM > *To:* MICE-DISCUSS(a)LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET > *Subject:* Re: [MICE-DISCUSS] HE funniness?**** > > ** ** > > We saw pretty much the same thing as well. > ~Matthew**** > > ** ** > > ** ** > > *From:* MICE Discuss [mailto:MICE-DISCUSS@LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET<MICE-DISCUSS(a)LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET>] > *On Behalf Of *Ryan Goldberg > *Sent:* Wednesday, July 11, 2012 12:31 PM > *To:* MICE-DISCUSS(a)LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET > *Subject:* [MICE-DISCUSS] HE funniness?**** > > ** ** > > Anybody just experience an issue with HE? It was like our advertisements > were getting out, through them, but no traffic was coming in via them, for > about 10 minutes, starting at about 12:10.**** > > ** ** > > Ryan**** > > ** ** > ------------------------------ > > To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: > http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1 **** > > ** ** > ------------------------------ > > To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: > http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1 **** > > ------------------------------ > > To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: > http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1 > -- Reid Fishler Director Hurricane Electric +1-510-580-4178 ######################################################################## To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1

July 11, 2012

Re: HE funniness?

by Justin Krejci

Same here... drop in inbound traffic that starting just before 12PM and seemed to return to normal about 12:15PM Not sure if it would have had anything to do with this but we had a support ticket in with them this morning relating some to some very inefficient routing paths for a particular international destination that was adding an additional 50-60ms to the RTT. Having just checked on that routing path about 5-10 minutes before this email I noticed the route path had been adjusted and is now giving about the same RTT latency as our other providers to the destination now. Can't help but wonder if someone made a change relating to our support request but made some small mistake. On Wed, 2012-07-11 at 17:31 +0000, Ryan Goldberg wrote: > Anybody just experience an issue with HE? It was like our > advertisements were getting out, through them, but no traffic was > coming in via them, for about 10 minutes, starting at about 12:10. > > > > Ryan > > > > > > ______________________________________________________________________ > > To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: > http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1 > ######################################################################## To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1

July 11, 2012

Re: HE funniness?

by Mike Bushard, Jr

We saw the same thing from about 11:58am until 12:15pm. Cogent traffic was flowing fine but both our peering and transit to HE was not happy. Mike Bushard, Jr | Network Engineer IV | *Arvig* | 320.256.7471 Office | 320.256.0178 Direct | 320.429.0837 Mobile ** NEW NUMBER ** | 320-256-7555 Fax [image: Description: Description: http://ipstats.arvig.net/arviglogo.jpeg] *** Please update your address book with my new work email: mike.bushard(a)arvig.com *** *From:* MICE Discuss [mailto:MICE-DISCUSS@LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET] *On Behalf Of *Matthew Beckwell *Sent:* Wednesday, July 11, 2012 12:32 PM *To:* MICE-DISCUSS(a)LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET *Subject:* Re: [MICE-DISCUSS] HE funniness? We saw pretty much the same thing as well. ~Matthew *From:* MICE Discuss [mailto:MICE-DISCUSS@LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET] *On Behalf Of *Ryan Goldberg *Sent:* Wednesday, July 11, 2012 12:31 PM *To:* MICE-DISCUSS(a)LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET *Subject:* [MICE-DISCUSS] HE funniness? Anybody just experience an issue with HE? It was like our advertisements were getting out, through them, but no traffic was coming in via them, for about 10 minutes, starting at about 12:10. Ryan ------------------------------ To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1 ------------------------------ To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1 ######################################################################## To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1

July 11, 2012

Re: HE funniness?

by Andy Erickson

HE's NOC Response: "There was a routing loop upstream of MSP which has since been resolved" -Andy [cid:image001.jpg@01CD5F61.5D741ED0] Andy Erickson - CCNP | CCSP Chief Technical Officer Stellar Association, LLC e: aerickson(a)stellarllc.net<mailto:aerickson@stellarllc.net> p: 320.834.3751 From: MICE Discuss [mailto:MICE-DISCUSS@LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET] On Behalf Of Matthew Beckwell Sent: Wednesday, July 11, 2012 12:32 PM To: MICE-DISCUSS(a)LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET Subject: Re: [MICE-DISCUSS] HE funniness? We saw pretty much the same thing as well. ~Matthew From: MICE Discuss [mailto:MICE-DISCUSS@LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET] On Behalf Of Ryan Goldberg Sent: Wednesday, July 11, 2012 12:31 PM To: MICE-DISCUSS(a)LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET<mailto:MICE-DISCUSS@LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET> Subject: [MICE-DISCUSS] HE funniness? Anybody just experience an issue with HE? It was like our advertisements were getting out, through them, but no traffic was coming in via them, for about 10 minutes, starting at about 12:10. Ryan ________________________________ To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1 ________________________________ To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1 ######################################################################## To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1

July 11, 2012

Re: HE funniness?

by Andrew Hoyos

If you look at their looking glass (lg.he.net) looks like a bunch of iBGP sessions flapped in their network. On Jul 11, 2012, at 12:31 PM, Ryan Goldberg wrote: > Anybody just experience an issue with HE? It was like our advertisements were getting out, through them, but no traffic was coming in via them, for about 10 minutes, starting at about 12:10. > > Ryan > > To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: > http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1 > -- Andrew Hoyos hoyosa(a)gmail.com ######################################################################## To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1

July 11, 2012

Re: HE funniness?

by Matthew Beckwell

We saw pretty much the same thing as well. ~Matthew From: MICE Discuss [mailto:MICE-DISCUSS@LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET] On Behalf Of Ryan Goldberg Sent: Wednesday, July 11, 2012 12:31 PM To: MICE-DISCUSS(a)LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET Subject: [MICE-DISCUSS] HE funniness? Anybody just experience an issue with HE? It was like our advertisements were getting out, through them, but no traffic was coming in via them, for about 10 minutes, starting at about 12:10. Ryan ________________________________ To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1 ######################################################################## To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1

July 11, 2012

Re: HE funniness?

by Andy Erickson

Yes. it's back now but there was an issue for ~12 minutes. Trouble has been reported to their NOC. -Andy [cid:image001.jpg@01CD5F61.20F5AB90] Andy Erickson - CCNP | CCSP Chief Technical Officer Stellar Association, LLC e: aerickson(a)stellarllc.net<mailto:aerickson@stellarllc.net> p: 320.834.3751 From: MICE Discuss [mailto:MICE-DISCUSS@LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET] On Behalf Of Ryan Goldberg Sent: Wednesday, July 11, 2012 12:31 PM To: MICE-DISCUSS(a)LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET Subject: [MICE-DISCUSS] HE funniness? Anybody just experience an issue with HE? It was like our advertisements were getting out, through them, but no traffic was coming in via them, for about 10 minutes, starting at about 12:10. Ryan ________________________________ To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1 ######################################################################## To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1

July 11, 2012

Re: HE funniness?

by Dean Bahls

Ryan, We experienced an issue as well. Our guys are looking into it as well. Thanks, Dean From: MICE Discuss [mailto:MICE-DISCUSS@LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET] On Behalf Of Ryan Goldberg Sent: Wednesday, July 11, 2012 12:31 PM To: MICE-DISCUSS(a)LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET Subject: [MICE-DISCUSS] HE funniness? Anybody just experience an issue with HE? It was like our advertisements were getting out, through them, but no traffic was coming in via them, for about 10 minutes, starting at about 12:10. Ryan _____ No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2012.0.2195 / Virus Database: 2437/5125 - Release Date: 07/11/12 _____ To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS <http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1> &A=1 ######################################################################## To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1

July 11, 2012

HE funniness?

by Ryan Goldberg

Anybody just experience an issue with HE? It was like our advertisements were getting out, through them, but no traffic was coming in via them, for about 10 minutes, starting at about 12:10. Ryan ######################################################################## To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1

July 11, 2012

Re: MICE Tubes

by Mike Horwath

On Tue, Jul 10, 2012 at 09:33:00AM -0500, Jay Hanke wrote: > MICE is mentioned in Tubes: A Journey to the Center of the Internet. > > http://www.amazon.com/Tubes-A-Journey-Center-Internet/dp/0061994936 I've tried to enjoy the book but failed. -- Mike Horwath ipHouse - Welcome home! drechsau(a)iphouse.net The universe is an island, surrounded by whatever it is that surrounds universes. - Berkeley Fortune ######################################################################## To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1

July 10, 2012

MICE Tubes

by Jay Hanke

MICE is mentioned in Tubes: A Journey to the Center of the Internet. http://www.amazon.com/Tubes-A-Journey-Center-Internet/dp/0061994936 Jay ######################################################################## To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1

July 10, 2012

Re: MLB.com performance

by Frank Bulk

Thanks, Marty. I'll send you the NSes offlist. Frank -----Original Message----- From: MICE Discuss [mailto:MICE-DISCUSS@LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET] On Behalf Of Hannigan, Martin Sent: Monday, July 09, 2012 7:21 AM To: MICE-DISCUSS(a)LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET Subject: Re: [MICE-DISCUSS] MLB.com performance On 7/5/12 7:16 PM, "Mike Horwath" <drechsau(a)IPHOUSE.NET> wrote: > On Thu, Jul 05, 2012 at 04:50:52PM -0500, Frank Bulk wrote: >> Sure, I'm seeing it from: >> 63.236.253.24 >> 63.236.253.50 >> 63.236.253.58 >> 63.236.253.83 > > qwest.net Chicago.. > >> 90.84.52.87 >> 90.84.52.103 >> 90.84.52.148 > > RIPE ...and in Chicago. > >> but it should be coming from 66.43.208.64/26 or 167.142.232.128/26. > Not everything is served from everywhere. It depends on what format the streaming is happening in, how much disk a cluster has and a number of other factors. > > As far as where it 'should be coming from' though I dunno. > > netINS out of IOWA may not have the right kind of Akamai gear to > handle the streaming stuff. Possibly. If Frank sends me the NS of the users he is talking about, I'll take a look. I was on vacation so I am just seeing this email now. Best, -M< ######################################################################## To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1 ######################################################################## To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1

July 10, 2012

Re: MLB.com performance

by Hannigan, Martin

On 7/5/12 7:16 PM, "Mike Horwath" <drechsau(a)IPHOUSE.NET> wrote: > On Thu, Jul 05, 2012 at 04:50:52PM -0500, Frank Bulk wrote: >> Sure, I'm seeing it from: >> 63.236.253.24 >> 63.236.253.50 >> 63.236.253.58 >> 63.236.253.83 > > qwest.net Chicago.. > >> 90.84.52.87 >> 90.84.52.103 >> 90.84.52.148 > > RIPE ...and in Chicago. > >> but it should be coming from 66.43.208.64/26 or 167.142.232.128/26. > Not everything is served from everywhere. It depends on what format the streaming is happening in, how much disk a cluster has and a number of other factors. > > As far as where it 'should be coming from' though I dunno. > > netINS out of IOWA may not have the right kind of Akamai gear to > handle the streaming stuff. Possibly. If Frank sends me the NS of the users he is talking about, I'll take a look. I was on vacation so I am just seeing this email now. Best, -M< ######################################################################## To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1

July 9, 2012

Re: MLB.com performance

by David Farmer

On 7/5/12 19:57 CDT, Frank Bulk wrote: > Yes, we are an INS customer. I've never seen MLB content stream from the Akamai cluster at INS, but then again, we've not monitored this on an ongoing basis. I described the issue to INS and asked them to ask Akamai, but they weren't willing to do so, saying that it was up to Akamai how run their business and it was none of their business. Well, not exactly, if INS is hosting servers for Akamai then they are not completely out of the loop. If Akamai hasn't upgraded INS' server lately, it might not hurt for them to request an upgrade. Like I said Akamai is usually happy to do so if usage warrants it, but sometimes you have to ask. >I don't disagree that it's Akamai's caches and business, but my concern was about my customers' streaming performance and my question is if Akamai possibly overlooked streaming this content more locally to AS5056. Hence my more generic question to MICE. > > I don't know the age or the size of the Akamai cluster at INS. But it sounds like the consensus is that I shouldn't be surprised if video streaming-related content isn't streamed by Akamai cluster our customers normally use. Yep, I wouldn't be surprised, especially if INS hasn't had their servers upgraded lately. > Thanks, > > Frank > > P.S. we weren't willing to test on our dime, either, but our customer was kind enough to share his credentials. I was hoping the issue was just his subnet or some DNS settings he had on his device or router that directed him to the wrong Akamai cluster, but that wasn't the case because all our testing showed the same two /24's. > > -----Original Message----- > From: MICE Discuss [mailto:MICE-DISCUSS@LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET] On Behalf Of Mike Horwath > Sent: Thursday, July 05, 2012 6:16 PM > To: MICE-DISCUSS(a)LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET > Subject: Re: [MICE-DISCUSS] MLB.com performance > > On Thu, Jul 05, 2012 at 04:50:52PM -0500, Frank Bulk wrote: >> Sure, I'm seeing it from: >> 63.236.253.24 >> 63.236.253.50 >> 63.236.253.58 >> 63.236.253.83 > > qwest.net > >> 90.84.52.87 >> 90.84.52.103 >> 90.84.52.148 > > RIPE > >> but it should be coming from 66.43.208.64/26 or 167.142.232.128/26. > > Getting it from RIPE doesn't seem right :( > > As far as where it 'should be coming from' though I dunno. > > netINS out of IOWA may not have the right kind of Akamai gear to > handle the streaming stuff. > > I am very sure the small cluster we have at ipHouse can't do it. > > Are you a netINS customer? > > Regardless of customer status - have you asked netINS if they have had > any outages with Akamai gear? That can impact services as part of it > is offline. > > Last question - have you ever had MLB.com stream from the netINS > Akamai cluster before or are you just assuming it should come from > there? > -- =============================================== David Farmer Email:farmer@umn.edu Networking & Telecommunication Services Office of Information Technology University of Minnesota 2218 University Ave SE Phone: 612-626-0815 Minneapolis, MN 55414-3029 Cell: 612-812-9952 =============================================== ######################################################################## To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1

July 6, 2012

Re: MLB.com performance

by Frank Bulk

Yes, we are an INS customer. I've never seen MLB content stream from the Akamai cluster at INS, but then again, we've not monitored this on an ongoing basis. I described the issue to INS and asked them to ask Akamai, but they weren't willing to do so, saying that it was up to Akamai how run their business and it was none of their business. I don't disagree that it's Akamai's caches and business, but my concern was about my customers' streaming performance and my question is if Akamai possibly overlooked streaming this content more locally to AS5056. Hence my more generic question to MICE. I don't know the age or the size of the Akamai cluster at INS. But it sounds like the consensus is that I shouldn't be surprised if video streaming-related content isn't streamed by Akamai cluster our customers normally use. Thanks, Frank P.S. we weren't willing to test on our dime, either, but our customer was kind enough to share his credentials. I was hoping the issue was just his subnet or some DNS settings he had on his device or router that directed him to the wrong Akamai cluster, but that wasn't the case because all our testing showed the same two /24's. -----Original Message----- From: MICE Discuss [mailto:MICE-DISCUSS@LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET] On Behalf Of Mike Horwath Sent: Thursday, July 05, 2012 6:16 PM To: MICE-DISCUSS(a)LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET Subject: Re: [MICE-DISCUSS] MLB.com performance On Thu, Jul 05, 2012 at 04:50:52PM -0500, Frank Bulk wrote: > Sure, I'm seeing it from: > 63.236.253.24 > 63.236.253.50 > 63.236.253.58 > 63.236.253.83 qwest.net > 90.84.52.87 > 90.84.52.103 > 90.84.52.148 RIPE > but it should be coming from 66.43.208.64/26 or 167.142.232.128/26. Getting it from RIPE doesn't seem right :( As far as where it 'should be coming from' though I dunno. netINS out of IOWA may not have the right kind of Akamai gear to handle the streaming stuff. I am very sure the small cluster we have at ipHouse can't do it. Are you a netINS customer? Regardless of customer status - have you asked netINS if they have had any outages with Akamai gear? That can impact services as part of it is offline. Last question - have you ever had MLB.com stream from the netINS Akamai cluster before or are you just assuming it should come from there? -- Mike Horwath ipHouse - Welcome home! drechsau(a)iphouse.net The universe is an island, surrounded by whatever it is that surrounds universes. - Berkeley Fortune ######################################################################## To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1 ######################################################################## To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1

July 6, 2012

Re: MLB.com performance

by David Farmer

On 7/5/12 18:16 CDT, Mike Horwath wrote: > On Thu, Jul 05, 2012 at 04:50:52PM -0500, Frank Bulk wrote: >> Sure, I'm seeing it from: >> 63.236.253.24 >> 63.236.253.50 >> 63.236.253.58 >> 63.236.253.83 > > qwest.net > >> 90.84.52.87 >> 90.84.52.103 >> 90.84.52.148 > > RIPE AS5511 is Opentransit - France Telecom - Orange - Worldwide IP Backbone. inetnum: 90.84.52.0 - 90.84.52.255 netname: AKAMAI-FT-US descr: Akamai Technologies - US machines Chicago connected to FT AS5511 My traceroute seems to show the servers in Chicago as well. >> but it should be coming from 66.43.208.64/26 or 167.142.232.128/26. > > Getting it from RIPE doesn't seem right :( > > As far as where it 'should be coming from' though I dunno. > > netINS out of IOWA may not have the right kind of Akamai gear to > handle the streaming stuff. > > I am very sure the small cluster we have at ipHouse can't do it. > > Are you a netINS customer? > > Regardless of customer status - have you asked netINS if they have had > any outages with Akamai gear? That can impact services as part of it > is offline. > > Last question - have you ever had MLB.com stream from the netINS > Akamai cluster before or are you just assuming it should come from > there? > -- =============================================== David Farmer Email:farmer@umn.edu Networking & Telecommunication Services Office of Information Technology University of Minnesota 2218 University Ave SE Phone: 612-626-0815 Minneapolis, MN 55414-3029 Cell: 612-812-9952 =============================================== ######################################################################## To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1

July 6, 2012

Re: MLB.com performance

by David Farmer

Those look like they could be Akamai clusters on big providers networks. How big are the local Akamai clusters? How old? Smaller and older clusters don't support all content especially video streaming. We had to go to 10G before we got a cluster that supported video streaming, and its only about 3 years old at most. Even then there is content that is only supported by Akamai operated clusters like at the MICE exchange. I'm not exactly sure where MLB.com fits, when I go there most of it comes from our local cluster. But, I'm not going to subscribe just the verify that the live game content comes from the local cluster too, sorry. Also, its possible that your local clusters are topped out or disabled for some reason, Akamai is good about shedding load when a cluster is overloaded. The two clusters you talk about both seem to be located in Chicago, so there are probably reasonable clusters to serve you. Akamai is pretty good about that usually, and if there is a problem they usually find and fix it fairly quickly. If your question is why aren't you being served from the local cluster, I would ask when they were last upgraded, and see if they need to be upgraded, Akamai is usually happy to do so. On 7/5/12 16:50 CDT, Frank Bulk wrote: > Sure, I'm seeing it from: > 63.236.253.24 > 63.236.253.50 > 63.236.253.58 > 63.236.253.83 > 90.84.52.87 > 90.84.52.103 > 90.84.52.148 > but it should be coming from 66.43.208.64/26 or 167.142.232.128/26. > > Frank > > -----Original Message----- > From: MICE Discuss [mailto:MICE-DISCUSS@LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET] On Behalf Of Mike Horwath > Sent: Thursday, July 05, 2012 3:01 PM > To: MICE-DISCUSS(a)LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET > Subject: Re: [MICE-DISCUSS] MLB.com performance > > On Thu, Jul 05, 2012 at 02:57:04PM -0500, Frank Bulk wrote: >> Would anyone know, off-chance, if Akamai normally streams mlb.com >> content from all their CDN locations? Our upstream provider's >> (AS5056) Akamai cluster does not serve it up today, and we've had a >> few comaplints in the last month. Netflow monitoring shows that the >> content is being streamed from address space SWIPed to Akamai, but >> it's not coming from our upstream provider. We've replicated this >> in our own testing. > > be easier to help if you told us what IP address you are seeing the > traffic from cause then Akamai might be able to help you with which > location it is streaming through. > -- =============================================== David Farmer Email:farmer@umn.edu Networking & Telecommunication Services Office of Information Technology University of Minnesota 2218 University Ave SE Phone: 612-626-0815 Minneapolis, MN 55414-3029 Cell: 612-812-9952 =============================================== ######################################################################## To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1

July 5, 2012

Re: MLB.com performance

by Mike Horwath

On Thu, Jul 05, 2012 at 04:50:52PM -0500, Frank Bulk wrote: > Sure, I'm seeing it from: > 63.236.253.24 > 63.236.253.50 > 63.236.253.58 > 63.236.253.83 qwest.net > 90.84.52.87 > 90.84.52.103 > 90.84.52.148 RIPE > but it should be coming from 66.43.208.64/26 or 167.142.232.128/26. Getting it from RIPE doesn't seem right :( As far as where it 'should be coming from' though I dunno. netINS out of IOWA may not have the right kind of Akamai gear to handle the streaming stuff. I am very sure the small cluster we have at ipHouse can't do it. Are you a netINS customer? Regardless of customer status - have you asked netINS if they have had any outages with Akamai gear? That can impact services as part of it is offline. Last question - have you ever had MLB.com stream from the netINS Akamai cluster before or are you just assuming it should come from there? -- Mike Horwath ipHouse - Welcome home! drechsau(a)iphouse.net The universe is an island, surrounded by whatever it is that surrounds universes. - Berkeley Fortune ######################################################################## To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1

July 5, 2012

Re: MLB.com performance

by Frank Bulk

Sure, I'm seeing it from: 63.236.253.24 63.236.253.50 63.236.253.58 63.236.253.83 90.84.52.87 90.84.52.103 90.84.52.148 but it should be coming from 66.43.208.64/26 or 167.142.232.128/26. Frank -----Original Message----- From: MICE Discuss [mailto:MICE-DISCUSS@LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET] On Behalf Of Mike Horwath Sent: Thursday, July 05, 2012 3:01 PM To: MICE-DISCUSS(a)LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET Subject: Re: [MICE-DISCUSS] MLB.com performance On Thu, Jul 05, 2012 at 02:57:04PM -0500, Frank Bulk wrote: > Would anyone know, off-chance, if Akamai normally streams mlb.com > content from all their CDN locations? Our upstream provider's > (AS5056) Akamai cluster does not serve it up today, and we've had a > few comaplints in the last month. Netflow monitoring shows that the > content is being streamed from address space SWIPed to Akamai, but > it's not coming from our upstream provider. We've replicated this > in our own testing. be easier to help if you told us what IP address you are seeing the traffic from cause then Akamai might be able to help you with which location it is streaming through. -- Mike Horwath ipHouse - Welcome home! drechsau(a)iphouse.net The universe is an island, surrounded by whatever it is that surrounds universes. - Berkeley Fortune ######################################################################## To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1 ######################################################################## To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1

July 5, 2012

Re: MLB.com performance

by Mike Horwath

On Thu, Jul 05, 2012 at 02:57:04PM -0500, Frank Bulk wrote: > Would anyone know, off-chance, if Akamai normally streams mlb.com > content from all their CDN locations? Our upstream provider's > (AS5056) Akamai cluster does not serve it up today, and we've had a > few comaplints in the last month. Netflow monitoring shows that the > content is being streamed from address space SWIPed to Akamai, but > it's not coming from our upstream provider. We've replicated this > in our own testing. be easier to help if you told us what IP address you are seeing the traffic from cause then Akamai might be able to help you with which location it is streaming through. -- Mike Horwath ipHouse - Welcome home! drechsau(a)iphouse.net The universe is an island, surrounded by whatever it is that surrounds universes. - Berkeley Fortune ######################################################################## To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1

July 5, 2012

MLB.com performance

by Frank Bulk

Would anyone know, off-chance, if Akamai normally streams mlb.com content from all their CDN locations? Our upstream provider's (AS5056) Akamai cluster does not serve it up today, and we've had a few comaplints in the last month. Netflow monitoring shows that the content is being streamed from address space SWIPed to Akamai, but it's not coming from our upstream provider. We've replicated this in our own testing. Frank ######################################################################## To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1

July 5, 2012

Recent ICANN stuff

by Mike O'Connor

hi all, since nobody threw their body on the ground and threw a temper tantrum, i've started representing us at ICANN. i am happy to field questions about anything ICANN-related and if i can't come up with a solid answer right off the bat, i'm also happy to trundle off and ask People Who Know. there are a few things to put on your radar. -- new gTLDs -- there's been lots of press about the recent Big Reveal of all the new top-level extensions that have been applied for. i won't add to that pile, but as i said, i'm happy to answer questions if you have any. the ISP constituency, of which we're a part, is especially concerned about security, stability and reliability (since we're often at the sharp pointy end when things break). -- DNS Security and Stability Analysis working group (DSSA) -- i've been leading this gang for about two years and we just published a first-phase report. this is a group that's looking at threats to the top of the DNS itself (root and TLD servers primarily). you can find a copy of our report behind this link https://community.icann.org/display/AW/Phase+1+Final+Report as many of you know, i'm kindof a "methods" guy and there's a tailored version of the NIST 800-30 methodology built into this thing. the methodology started out big and cumbersome. we hated that, so we're working on boiling it down to something that can be used very quickly to assess and analyze threats. if you're interested in the latest version of a 1-page spreadsheet that pulls the whole thing together, you can download a copy from here https://community.icann.org/display/AW/Risk+Scenario+worksheet -- ICANN SSR role and remit -- i was the rapporteur for our ISP constituency on these comments on the ICANN's proposed role and remit when it comes to ensuring the security and stability of the DNS. since i'm representing you as i write things like this, i'm really interested in hearing from you if you think i'm nuts. to a certain extent this is insider type stuff, but i'm hoping that i wrote it well enough that it makes sense outside of the ICANN context. any comments would be much appreciated. here's a link to the public-comment area for this issue http://www.icann.org/en/news/public-comment/draft-ssr-role-remit-17may12-en… and here's a link to the comment i submitted on behalf of the ISP constituency http://forum.icann.org/lists/draft-ssr-role-remit/msg00001.html -- Prague Meeting -- the next ICANN meeting is in Prague next week, where i'll mostly be pitching these two sets of ideas to people. so let me know if there's anything you'd especially like me to emphasize as i'm working the hallways (and drinking beer). :-) that concludes my report, mikey - - - - - - - - - phone 651-647-6109 fax 866-280-2356 web http://www.haven2.com handle OConnorStP (ID for public places like Twitter, Facebook, Google, etc.) ######################################################################## To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1

June 17, 2012

Re: Netflix Announcement

by Frank Bulk

So they will be priming the cache using their peering link? A good picture of the priming can be found here: http://cricket.cenic.org/grapher.cgi?target=%2Futilization%2Fcenic-backbone… Frank -----Original Message----- From: MICE Discuss [mailto:MICE-DISCUSS@LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET] On Behalf Of Jay Hanke Sent: Tuesday, June 12, 2012 3:06 PM To: MICE-DISCUSS(a)LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET Subject: Re: [MICE-DISCUSS] Netflix Announcement On Tue, Jun 12, 2012 at 2:46 PM, Shaun Carlson <shaun.carlson(a)arvig.com> wrote: > As long as it's not peak hours I think Arvig could definitely contribute > some bandwidth. We were just discussing this yesterday. Netflix will be lining up their own bandwidth. They'll be joining MICE as a regular user. ie no special arrangements Jay ######################################################################## To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1 ######################################################################## To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1

June 12, 2012

Re: Netflix Announcement

by Jay Hanke

On Tue, Jun 12, 2012 at 2:49 PM, Mike Bushard, Jr <mike.bushard(a)arvig.com>wrote: > We just need to get a better idea of what the needs are. I was told it’s > 4Gbps for 4 hours per night. > I've heard similar tales. The slick thing is that it's time shifted. Dave Tempkin gave a talk on the solution at NANOG: http://www.nanog.org/meetings/nanog55/presentations/Tuesday/Temkin.pdf Jay ######################################################################## To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1

June 12, 2012

Re: Netflix Announcement

by Jay Hanke

On Tue, Jun 12, 2012 at 2:46 PM, Shaun Carlson <shaun.carlson(a)arvig.com> wrote: > As long as it's not peak hours I think Arvig could definitely contribute > some bandwidth. We were just discussing this yesterday. Netflix will be lining up their own bandwidth. They'll be joining MICE as a regular user. ie no special arrangements Jay ######################################################################## To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1

June 12, 2012

Re: Netflix Announcement

by Mike Bushard, Jr

We just need to get a better idea of what the needs are. I was told it’s 4Gbps for 4 hours per night. Mike Bushard, Jr | Network Engineer IV | *Arvig* | 320.256.7471 Office | 320.256.0178 Direct | 320.429.0837 Mobile ** NEW NUMBER ** | 320-256-7555 Fax [image: Description: Description: http://ipstats.arvig.net/arviglogo.jpeg] *** Please update your address book with my new work email: mike.bushard(a)arvig.com *** *From:* MICE Discuss [mailto:MICE-DISCUSS@LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET] *On Behalf Of *Shaun Carlson *Sent:* Tuesday, June 12, 2012 2:47 PM *To:* MICE-DISCUSS(a)LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET *Subject:* Re: [MICE-DISCUSS] Netflix Announcement As long as it's not peak hours I think Arvig could definitely contribute some bandwidth. We were just discussing this yesterday. s *Shaun Carlson *Senior Network Engineer | Arvig ph: (218) 346-8673 | contact: protocol.by/scarlson em: shaun.carlson(a)arvig.com On Tue, Jun 12, 2012 at 2:44 PM, Jay Hanke <jayhanke(a)mankatonetworks.net> wrote: > Who will be supplying the bandwidth for them to fill their appliance(s)? I'm not sure. They asked who was in the building that could provide bandwidth. The content is pre-cached off-hours so it should be pretty efficient. As I understand they can provide fill from another appliance as well. Jay ######################################################################## To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1 ------------------------------ To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1 ######################################################################## To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1

June 12, 2012

Re: Netflix Announcement

by Shaun Carlson

As long as it's not peak hours I think Arvig could definitely contribute some bandwidth. We were just discussing this yesterday. s *Shaun Carlson *Senior Network Engineer | Arvig ph: (218) 346-8673 | contact: protocol.by/scarlson em: shaun.carlson(a)arvig.com On Tue, Jun 12, 2012 at 2:44 PM, Jay Hanke <jayhanke(a)mankatonetworks.net>wrote: > > Who will be supplying the bandwidth for them to fill their appliance(s)? > > I'm not sure. They asked who was in the building that could provide > bandwidth. > > The content is pre-cached off-hours so it should be pretty efficient. > As I understand they can provide fill from another appliance as well. > > Jay > > ######################################################################## > > To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: > http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1 > ######################################################################## To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1

June 12, 2012

Re: Netflix Announcement

by Jay Hanke

> Who will be supplying the bandwidth for them to fill their appliance(s)? I'm not sure. They asked who was in the building that could provide bandwidth. The content is pre-cached off-hours so it should be pretty efficient. As I understand they can provide fill from another appliance as well. Jay ######################################################################## To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1

June 12, 2012

Re: Netflix Announcement

by James Stahr

Full details on their CDN program: http://openconnect.netflix.com/ Who will be supplying the bandwidth for them to fill their appliance(s)? -James ######################################################################## To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1

June 11, 2012

Re: Netflix Announcement

by Mike O'Connor

timely article about Netflix (and others) restructuring their networks http://www.wired.com/wiredenterprise/2012/06/cdn/ m On Jun 9, 2012, at 4:21 PM, Steve Howard wrote: > Jay, > > That is really awesome! > > Thanks for your hard work on this. > > Steve > > On 06/09/2012 10:26 AM, Jay Hanke wrote: >> The Netflix CDN is planning to connect to MICE forth quarter of this year. >> >> Jay >> >> ######################################################################## >> >> To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: >> http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1 >> >> > > ######################################################################## > > To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: > http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1 - - - - - - - - - phone 651-647-6109 fax 866-280-2356 web http://www.haven2.com handle OConnorStP (ID for public places like Twitter, Facebook, Google, etc.) ######################################################################## To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1

June 9, 2012

Re: Netflix Announcement

by Steve Howard

Jay, That is really awesome! Thanks for your hard work on this. Steve On 06/09/2012 10:26 AM, Jay Hanke wrote: > The Netflix CDN is planning to connect to MICE forth quarter of this year. > > Jay > > ######################################################################## > > To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: > http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1 > > ######################################################################## To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1

June 9, 2012

Re: Netflix Announcement

by Mike Horwath

On Sat, Jun 09, 2012 at 10:26:21AM -0500, Jay Hanke wrote: > The Netflix CDN is planning to connect to MICE forth quarter of this > year. That's the bomb! Good job, Jay! -- Mike Horwath ipHouse - Welcome home! drechsau(a)iphouse.net The universe is an island, surrounded by whatever it is that surrounds universes. - Berkeley Fortune ######################################################################## To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1

June 9, 2012

Re: Netflix Announcement

by Mike Bushard, Jr

That's what they told me yesterday too! Mike Bushard Jr | Network Engineer IV | Arvig | 320.256.0178 direct | 320.429.0837 Mobile Sent from my Verizon Wireless DROID RAZR by Motorola Please excuse short responses and spelling errors. On Jun 9, 2012 10:26 AM, "Jay Hanke" <jayhanke(a)mankatonetworks.net> wrote: > The Netflix CDN is planning to connect to MICE forth quarter of this year. > > Jay > > ######################################################################## > > To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: > http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1 > ######################################################################## To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1

June 9, 2012

Re: Netflix Announcement

by Dean Bahls

<-----Original Message----- <From: MICE Discuss [mailto:MICE-DISCUSS@LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET] On Behalf Of Jay Hanke <Sent: Saturday, June 09, 2012 10:26 AM <To: MICE-DISCUSS(a)LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET <Subject: [MICE-DISCUSS] Netflix Announcement <The Netflix CDN is planning to connect to MICE forth quarter of this year. >Jay That's pretty big news! Dean ######################################################################## To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1

June 9, 2012

Netflix Announcement

by Jay Hanke

The Netflix CDN is planning to connect to MICE forth quarter of this year. Jay ######################################################################## To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1

June 9, 2012

Re: NANOG

by Andrew Hoyos

On May 30, 2012, at 1:49 PM, James Stahr wrote: > At 01:39 PM 5/30/2012, you wrote: >> I am going...am I the only one? >> >> Reid > > Nope, I'll be going as well but I don't always attend the peering BoF. However, it looks like they don't have anything else scheduled during the peering BoF. Bummer - have to skip this one due to some other commitments. Will be in Dallas though. I'd be game to do a "General State of Midwest Peering" slide there (including MICE, MadIX, MKEIX, etc) -- Andrew Hoyos hoyosa(a)gmail.com ######################################################################## To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1

May 31, 2012

Re: NANOG

by Reid Fishler

Perhaps... Reid Fishler Director Hurricane Electric +1-510-580-4178 On May 30, 2012 4:24 PM, "Jay Hanke" <jayhanke(a)mankatonetworks.net> wrote: > On Wed, May 30, 2012 at 1:39 PM, Reid Fishler <rfishler(a)he.net> wrote: > > I am going...am I the only one? > > Reid, > > If I make a slide for you can you present it during the Peering BoF? > > Jay > > ######################################################################## > > To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: > http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1 > > ######################################################################## To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1

May 30, 2012

Re: NANOG

by Jay Hanke

On Wed, May 30, 2012 at 1:39 PM, Reid Fishler <rfishler(a)he.net> wrote: > I am going...am I the only one? Reid, If I make a slide for you can you present it during the Peering BoF? Jay ######################################################################## To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1

May 30, 2012

Re: NANOG

by James Stahr

At 01:39 PM 5/30/2012, you wrote: >I am going...am I the only one? > >Reid Nope, I'll be going as well but I don't always attend the peering BoF. However, it looks like they don't have anything else scheduled during the peering BoF. -James >On Tue, May 29, 2012 at 11:28 AM, Jay Hanke ><<mailto:jayhanke@mankatonetworks.net>jayhanke(a)mankatonetworks.net> wrote: >Is anyone going to NANOG that would be willing to talk through a MICE >slide in the peering BoF? > >Jay > >######################################################################## > >To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: ><http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1>http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1 > > > > >-- >Reid Fishler >Director >Hurricane Electric >+1-510-580-4178 > > >---------- >To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: ><http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1>http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1 > ######################################################################## To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1

May 30, 2012

Re: NANOG

by Reid Fishler

I am going...am I the only one? Reid On Tue, May 29, 2012 at 11:28 AM, Jay Hanke <jayhanke(a)mankatonetworks.net>wrote: > Is anyone going to NANOG that would be willing to talk through a MICE > slide in the peering BoF? > > Jay > > ######################################################################## > > To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: > http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1 > > -- Reid Fishler Director Hurricane Electric +1-510-580-4178 ######################################################################## To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1

May 30, 2012

NANOG

by Jay Hanke

Is anyone going to NANOG that would be willing to talk through a MICE slide in the peering BoF? Jay ######################################################################## To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1

May 29, 2012

Re: MN Gateway Purchase

by Mike Horwath

On Mon, May 14, 2012 at 03:33:30PM -0500, Justin Krejci wrote: > http://www.cologix.com/en/company-profile/news/301-511-11th-press-release-g… > > MICE got a mention in their press release too. A link would have been cool too! :) CONGRATS! -- Mike Horwath ipHouse - Welcome home! drechsau(a)iphouse.net The universe is an island, surrounded by whatever it is that surrounds universes. - Berkeley Fortune ######################################################################## To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1

May 14, 2012