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Re: MICE Traffic Lower

by Doug McIntyre

On Wed, Sep 05, 2012 at 10:57:00PM -0500, Jeremy Lumby wrote: > ..however the IP address renumbering seems to have fallen by the wayside.. Since I volunteered for this, I've tried several times internally to discuss the direction to go, but maybe we should just take it for public discussion instead of waiting more for my cohorts. I didn't know the schedule for the switch cutover until the day it happened, otherwise I would have tried to get more things done ahead of time. I've previously posted an outline of my thoughts for cutover, maybe we'll just make them firm in this posting. First off, once things are settled, I won't just depend on a list posting for distributing info, I'll email the peering email address of each member with their specific info, so please confirm back that you've received it. First task. We've pretty much settled on IPv4 addressing the same keeping the last octet. We need to settle on IPv6 addressing. Owen Delong has suggested that we embed the ASN and switch & port into the IPv6 address, others have said it isn't needed. We have such large space, we can do just about any scheme. I'd just have to precalculate each IPv6 address and send it off to everybody. We'll just start by taking the first IPv6 network, leaving the others in reserve. Would it be nice to have something like 2001:504:27:0:0:1e49:1:3/64 (in particular to identify ipHouse), vs. 2001:504:27:0:0:1055:1:4/64 (to identify TDS?). Or just match up how things are now with 2001:504:27:0::3 & ::4? (the existing IP addresses started out with port # at the end, but of course things had to change up as we went along, the port #s would stay correct on IPv6). Do the same with the route servers? Or make them shorter? 2001:504:27::1? Second task. Scheduling. In order for people to start announcing prefixes with nexthop addresses as the new IPs, everybody needs to at least have the new prefix on as a secondary or another IP address on their MICE facing interfaces to reach them. Not everybody has done that yet, although many did do the IPv4 portion already. How about we set a drop-dead due date of 10/1/2012 for allowing everybody to do this in whatever maintenance window they see appropriate. 3 weeks out is pretty reasonable I think, but I don't know other's policies on scheduling their windows if they want to minimize whatever impact this causes (minimal I think). Third task. BGP cutover. The route servers are listening now on 206.108.255.1 & 206.108.255.2 as well as the old IPs. BIRD hasn't been restarted yet though. I plan on creating new BIRD configs with the router-id in 206.108.255.0 & 2001:504:27::/64 for every member. This should allow any member past the secondary IP day to change to connect to the new IP, announce as their new IP, and have their prefixes be reachable by all members. This can happen on their schedule at any time after the 10/1/2012 date. Bilateral peering members can update between themselves at any point in time once they have their IP assignments if their gear supports that level of control, but multilateral peering to the route servers should still be announcing the old IP addresses as next-hop for now until after the 10/1/2012 date. Final task. Final cleanup of old IP addressing. As people cutover after the 10/1/2012 date, I expect them to swap primary and secondary IP addresses in their MICE facing interfaces (assuming cisco config here) but until everybody is cutover, members will probably want to retain a secondary in the old range in order to reach people that haven't changed their BGP setup yet. Should we set a date of 1/1/2013 as final cleanup and IP address turn in day back to Airstream? After that, nobody should be announcing any prefixes with next hop in the old IP address range. Members should make sure that they remove the secondary IP address after this date on whatever maintenance window is required (again should be minimal impact as this is now the secondary IP address). Failure to remove the secondary could impact Airstream in the future if they reassign these IP blocks, so this should be completed at some point. Questions? Are their any concerns or questions about this schedule and plan? Anything anybody would do differently? Are the schedule dates reasonable? -- Doug McIntyre <merlyn(a)iphouse.net> -- ipHouse/Goldengate/Bitstream/ProNS -- Network Engineer/Provisioning/Jack of all Trades ######################################################################## To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1

Sept. 6, 2012

MICE Announce list issue

by Jeremy Lumby

I am unable to subscribe to the MICE announce list. When I go to the web page to subscribe, it says that I will be sent a confirmation email. I never get it, and it does not show up in my spam folder. I tried several times last week. ######################################################################## To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1

Sept. 6, 2012

Re: MICE Traffic Lower

by Jay Hanke

On Thu, Sep 6, 2012 at 10:48 AM, Mike Horwath <drechsau(a)iphouse.net> wrote: > On Thu, Sep 06, 2012 at 08:50:26AM -0500, Jay Hanke wrote: >> On Wed, Sep 5, 2012 at 11:06 PM, Mike Horwath <drechsau(a)iphouse.net> wrote: >> > Where is it at? :) (Hi Jay!) >> > That was about the UG, not the renumbering. > There was an email yesterday... http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?A2=MICE-ANNOUNCE;690b5a89.1209 Info also available at: http://micemn.net/ ######################################################################## To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1

Sept. 6, 2012

Re: MICE Traffic Lower

by Mike Horwath

On Thu, Sep 06, 2012 at 08:50:26AM -0500, Jay Hanke wrote: > On Wed, Sep 5, 2012 at 11:06 PM, Mike Horwath <drechsau(a)iphouse.net> wrote: > > Where is it at? :) (Hi Jay!) > > Doug and Anthony are running this, I'll defer to them regarding the > renumbering. That was about the UG, not the renumbering. -- Mike Horwath ipHouse - Welcome home! drechsau(a)iphouse.net The universe is an island, surrounded by whatever it is that surrounds universes. - Berkeley Fortune ######################################################################## To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1

Sept. 6, 2012

Re: MICE Traffic Lower

by Jay Hanke

On Wed, Sep 5, 2012 at 11:06 PM, Mike Horwath <drechsau(a)iphouse.net> wrote: > On Wed, Sep 05, 2012 at 10:57:00PM -0500, Jeremy Lumby wrote: >> I had a network engineer at one such large carrier say to me that >> they did not wa nt to recommend joining MICE to management because >> there were no maintenance fees, and therefore they were afraid that >> MICE may not be around long term for lack of reliable maintenance >> funds. I have run into this as well. Items like this are significantly hindering our growth. > MICE UG will be a great place to discuss things. I partially disagree. Waiting to discus or research these issues until a UG will lead to endless cycles of waiting and discussion. We need to have actionable items and consensus built prior to the meeting and use the meeting to vote. If you can't be at the meeting in person assign a proxy in advance. Almost all of our progress to date has been individuals grabbing some problem and taking care of it semi-independently. We need to come to the UG with proposals ready or almost ready for adoption. <snip/> > Where is it at? :) (Hi Jay!) Doug and Anthony are running this, I'll defer to them regarding the renumbering. jay ######################################################################## To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1

Sept. 6, 2012

Re: MICE Traffic Lower

by Jeremy Lumby

I agree, however for any members running Cisco IOS, this opportunity has already passed during the switch swap outage, since you cannot move the new ip from secondary to primary without causing an outage. I just hoped they used the planned outage to make the new IP primary, and the old one Secondary. -----Original Message----- From: MICE Discuss [mailto:MICE-DISCUSS@LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET] On Behalf Of Owen DeLong Sent: Wednesday, September 05, 2012 11:29 PM To: MICE-DISCUSS(a)LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET Subject: Re: [MICE-DISCUSS] MICE Traffic Lower If we do the renumbering right, you shouldn't have to endure an outage. You should be able to bring up each new session, wait for it to stabilize, then turn down the old one and not lose a single packet. Owen On Sep 5, 2012, at 20:57 , Jeremy Lumby <jlumby(a)MNVOIP.COM> wrote: > Personally I feel that it is probably not the source of decreased traffic, however the IP address renumbering seems to have fallen by the wayside post switch swap out. I was hoping to only bring my sessions back up after renumbering, so as to not need to take them down again, however when it stalled I decided to bring the old ones back up. I would like to see some direction from the steering committee as to what time ranges they would like everyone to have the second IP by, and then what stage they would like to see the old IP removed by. If there is not direction, this will probably hang around forever. Personally I have contacted the 4 members that only were doing bi-lateral peering, and only 2 of them responded, and got our BGP sessions updated to the new IPs. Something we should all keep in mind is that the more professionally we operate, the more attractive we look to the larger carriers that are thinking of joining. I had a network engineer at one such large carrier say to me that they did not want to recommend joining MICE to management because there were no maintenance fees, and therefore they were afraid that MICE may not be around long term for lack of reliable maintenance funds. > > Jeremy > > ###################################################################### > ## > > To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: > http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1 ######################################################################## To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1 ######################################################################## To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1

Sept. 6, 2012

Re: MICE Traffic Lower

by Owen DeLong

If we do the renumbering right, you shouldn't have to endure an outage. You should be able to bring up each new session, wait for it to stabilize, then turn down the old one and not lose a single packet. Owen On Sep 5, 2012, at 20:57 , Jeremy Lumby <jlumby(a)MNVOIP.COM> wrote: > Personally I feel that it is probably not the source of decreased traffic, however the IP address renumbering seems to have fallen by the wayside post switch swap out. I was hoping to only bring my sessions back up after renumbering, so as to not need to take them down again, however when it stalled I decided to bring the old ones back up. I would like to see some direction from the steering committee as to what time ranges they would like everyone to have the second IP by, and then what stage they would like to see the old IP removed by. If there is not direction, this will probably hang around forever. Personally I have contacted the 4 members that only were doing bi-lateral peering, and only 2 of them responded, and got our BGP sessions updated to the new IPs. Something we should all keep in mind is that the more professionally we operate, the more attractive we look to the larger carriers that are thinking of joining. I had a network engineer at one such large carrier say to me that they did not want to recommend joining MICE to management because there were no maintenance fees, and therefore they were afraid that MICE may not be around long term for lack of reliable maintenance funds. > > Jeremy > > ######################################################################## > > To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: > http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1 ######################################################################## To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1

Sept. 6, 2012

Re: MICE Traffic Lower

by Mike Horwath

On Wed, Sep 05, 2012 at 10:57:00PM -0500, Jeremy Lumby wrote: > I had a network engineer at one such large carrier say to me that > they did not wa nt to recommend joining MICE to management because > there were no maintenance fees, and therefore they were afraid that > MICE may not be around long term for lack of reliable maintenance > funds. MICE UG will be a great place to discuss things. Will you be there? Where is it at? :) (Hi Jay!) -- Mike Horwath ipHouse - Welcome home! drechsau(a)iphouse.net The universe is an island, surrounded by whatever it is that surrounds universes. - Berkeley Fortune ######################################################################## To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1

Sept. 6, 2012

Re: MICE Traffic Lower

by Koch, Andrew

On Wednesday, September 05, 2012 at 22:57 Jeremy Lumby wrote: > Personally I feel that it is probably not the source of decreased traffic, > however the IP address renumbering seems to have fallen by the wayside > post switch swap out. I was hoping to only bring my sessions back up > after renumbering, so as to not need to take them down again, however when > it stalled I decided to bring the old ones back up. Jeremy, Only half of the numbering is assigned. I have been holding off on contacting our peers until we have an IPv6 assignment so to keep the number of touches to a minimum. I am sure more traction will be seen once a more formal plan is finalized. Luckily, multiple IPv6 addresses are a bit easier to deal with on routers than having multiple IPv4 addresses. Regards, Andy Koch TDS Telecom - IP Network Operations andrew.koch(a)tdstelecom.com Desk: 608-664-4694 Cell: 608-616-0072 ######################################################################## To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1

Sept. 6, 2012

Re: MICE Traffic Lower

by Jeremy Lumby

Personally I feel that it is probably not the source of decreased traffic, however the IP address renumbering seems to have fallen by the wayside post switch swap out. I was hoping to only bring my sessions back up after renumbering, so as to not need to take them down again, however when it stalled I decided to bring the old ones back up. I would like to see some direction from the steering committee as to what time ranges they would like everyone to have the second IP by, and then what stage they would like to see the old IP removed by. If there is not direction, this will probably hang around forever. Personally I have contacted the 4 members that only were doing bi-lateral peering, and only 2 of them responded, and got our BGP sessions updated to the new IPs. Something we should all keep in mind is that the more professionally we operate, the more attractive we look to the larger carriers that are thinking of joining. I had a network engineer at one such large carrier say to me that they did not want to recommend joining MICE to management because there were no maintenance fees, and therefore they were afraid that MICE may not be around long term for lack of reliable maintenance funds. Jeremy ######################################################################## To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1

Sept. 6, 2012

Re: MICE Traffic Lower

by Dan Boehlke

Maybe the new switches are shy and need to get to know us better. They may feel transparent because we are peering through them. On Sep 5, 2012, at 6:24 PM, Mike Horwath <drechsau(a)iphouse.net> wrote: > On Wed, Sep 05, 2012 at 11:20:23PM +0000, Dan Olsen wrote: >> It has a personality now > > That's what I'm saying! > > -- > Mike Horwath ipHouse - Welcome home! drechsau(a)iphouse.net > The universe is an island, surrounded by whatever it is > that surrounds universes. - Berkeley Fortune > > ######################################################################## > > To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: > http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1 ######################################################################## To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1

Sept. 5, 2012

Re: MICE Traffic Lower

by Dan Olsen

I'm with you. ------Original Message------ From: Mike Horwath Sender: MICE Discuss To: MICE-DISCUSS(a)LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET ReplyTo: MICE Discuss Subject: Re: [MICE-DISCUSS] MICE Traffic Lower Sent: Sep 5, 2012 6:24 PM On Wed, Sep 05, 2012 at 11:20:23PM +0000, Dan Olsen wrote: > It has a personality now That's what I'm saying! -- Mike Horwath ipHouse - Welcome home! drechsau(a)iphouse.net The universe is an island, surrounded by whatever it is that surrounds universes. - Berkeley Fortune ######################################################################## To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1 Sent from a wireless device ######################################################################## To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1

Sept. 5, 2012

Re: MICE Traffic Lower

by Mike Horwath

On Wed, Sep 05, 2012 at 11:20:23PM +0000, Dan Olsen wrote: > It has a personality now That's what I'm saying! -- Mike Horwath ipHouse - Welcome home! drechsau(a)iphouse.net The universe is an island, surrounded by whatever it is that surrounds universes. - Berkeley Fortune ######################################################################## To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1

Sept. 5, 2012

Re: MICE Traffic Lower

by Dan Olsen

It has a personality now ------Original Message------ From: Mike Horwath Sender: MICE Discuss To: MICE-DISCUSS(a)LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET ReplyTo: MICE Discuss Subject: Re: [MICE-DISCUSS] MICE Traffic Lower Sent: Sep 5, 2012 5:20 PM On Wed, Sep 05, 2012 at 05:03:12PM -0500, Jay Hanke wrote: > It looks like we're running ~500-700 Mb/s lower in overall traffic > after the switch upgrade. Any ideas on why? It misses something? -- Mike Horwath ipHouse - Welcome home! drechsau(a)iphouse.net The universe is an island, surrounded by whatever it is that surrounds universes. - Berkeley Fortune ######################################################################## To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1 Sent from a wireless device ######################################################################## To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1

Sept. 5, 2012

Re: MICE Traffic Lower

by Dan Olsen

Looks like SDN is lower. Not that I'm keeping track of them!!! ------Original Message------ From: Jay Hanke Sender: MICE Discuss To: MICE-DISCUSS(a)LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET ReplyTo: MICE Discuss Subject: [MICE-DISCUSS] MICE Traffic Lower Sent: Sep 5, 2012 5:03 PM It looks like we're running ~500-700 Mb/s lower in overall traffic after the switch upgrade. Any ideas on why? -- Jay Hanke CTO, CCIE #19093 Mankato Networks LLC PO Box 54 619 S Front St Mankato, MN 56001-3838 Google 530-618-2398 jayhanke(a)mankatonetworks.net http://www.mankatonetworks.com ######################################################################## To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1 Sent from a wireless device ######################################################################## To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1

Sept. 5, 2012

Re: MICE Traffic Lower

by Mike Horwath

On Wed, Sep 05, 2012 at 05:03:12PM -0500, Jay Hanke wrote: > It looks like we're running ~500-700 Mb/s lower in overall traffic > after the switch upgrade. Any ideas on why? It misses something? -- Mike Horwath ipHouse - Welcome home! drechsau(a)iphouse.net The universe is an island, surrounded by whatever it is that surrounds universes. - Berkeley Fortune ######################################################################## To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1

Sept. 5, 2012

MICE Traffic Lower

by Jay Hanke

It looks like we're running ~500-700 Mb/s lower in overall traffic after the switch upgrade. Any ideas on why? -- Jay Hanke CTO, CCIE #19093 Mankato Networks LLC PO Box 54 619 S Front St Mankato, MN 56001-3838 Google 530-618-2398 jayhanke(a)mankatonetworks.net http://www.mankatonetworks.com ######################################################################## To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1

Sept. 5, 2012

Projector for MICE UG

by Jay Hanke

Does anyone have a projector they could make available for the MICE UG meeting? -- Jay Hanke CTO, CCIE #19093 Mankato Networks LLC PO Box 54 619 S Front St Mankato, MN 56001-3838 Google 530-618-2398 jayhanke(a)mankatonetworks.net http://www.mankatonetworks.com ######################################################################## To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1

Sept. 5, 2012

MICE UG 7 Speakers/Reminder

by Jay Hanke

William Hoffman and Diane Wells will be speaking about broadband deployment in Minnesota and the Connect Minnesota project. The meeting will be Wednesday, October 3rd, 2012 at 3PM @ the 511 Cafeteria. http://mankatonetworks.com/wordpress/?p=281 http://www.micemn.net/ -- Jay Hanke CTO, CCIE #19093 Mankato Networks LLC PO Box 54 619 S Front St Mankato, MN 56001-3838 Google 530-618-2398 jayhanke(a)mankatonetworks.net http://www.mankatonetworks.com ######################################################################## To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1

Sept. 5, 2012

Re: Cacti Update

by Jeremy Lumby

Anthony, Thanks for the labels on the graphs! It looks great. I love the Aggregate MICE Ingress Traffic. I noticed that the Route Server graphs no longer show up. Just wanted to make sure you were aware. Thanks for the hard work, Jeremy -----Original Message----- From: Jeremy Lumby [mailto:jlumby@mnvoip.com] Sent: Friday, August 31, 2012 1:38 PM To: 'MICE Discuss' Subject: RE: [MICE-DISCUSS] Cacti Update When you do the update would you mind making the individual graph titles show the member's name? It makes it much easier than going back and forth to the participants page. -----Original Message----- From: MICE Discuss [mailto:MICE-DISCUSS@LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET] On Behalf Of Anthony Anderberg Sent: Friday, August 31, 2012 1:20 PM To: MICE-DISCUSS(a)LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET Subject: Re: [MICE-DISCUSS] Cacti Update That's on my plate - I'm planning on grooming those this afternoon. It just takes a couple steps to make sure I can preserve the history for our aggregate graphs. Anthony Anderberg Sr. Systems Analyst 320-234-5239 anthonyanderberg(a)nu-telecom.net -----Original Message----- From: MICE Discuss [mailto:MICE-DISCUSS@LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET] On Behalf Of Jeremy Lumby Sent: Friday, August 31, 2012 12:24 PM To: MICE-DISCUSS(a)LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET Subject: [MICE-DISCUSS] Cacti Update I was just wondering if someone was working on updating Cacti to reflect the port assignments/new switches ######################################################################## To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1 ######################################################################## To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1 ######################################################################## To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1

Sept. 3, 2012

Re: Cacti Update

by Anthony Anderberg

The graphs should all have labels now, I'd had trouble getting the ifDesc-based labels to work before but they worked without much effort this time. Since I mostly use the weathermap I hadn't worried about it before now. I've also created an alternate version of the aggregate graph that breaks out the traffic some, and everything else should be working again too. As always let me know if anything looks silly. Anthony Anderberg Sr. Systems Analyst [NUtel_email_logo_1] 320-234-5239 anthonyanderberg(a)nu-telecom.net<mailto:anthonyanderberg@nu-telecom.net> From: MICE Discuss [mailto:MICE-DISCUSS@LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET] On Behalf Of Mike Bushard, Jr Sent: Friday, August 31, 2012 1:59 PM To: MICE-DISCUSS(a)LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET Subject: Re: [MICE-DISCUSS] Cacti Update So long as the interfaces are named properly cacti should grab that automatically i think. Mike Bushard Jr | Network Engineer IV | Arvig | 320.256.0178 direct | 320.429.0837 Mobile Sent from my Verizon Wireless DROID RAZR by Motorola Please excuse short responses and spelling errors. On Aug 31, 2012 1:38 PM, "Jeremy Lumby" <jlumby(a)mnvoip.com<mailto:jlumby@mnvoip.com>> wrote: When you do the update would you mind making the individual graph titles show the member's name? It makes it much easier than going back and forth to the participants page. -----Original Message----- From: MICE Discuss [mailto:MICE-DISCUSS@LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET<mailto:MICE-DISCUSS@LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET>] On Behalf Of Anthony Anderberg Sent: Friday, August 31, 2012 1:20 PM To: MICE-DISCUSS(a)LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET<mailto:MICE-DISCUSS@LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET> Subject: Re: [MICE-DISCUSS] Cacti Update That's on my plate - I'm planning on grooming those this afternoon. It just takes a couple steps to make sure I can preserve the history for our aggregate graphs. Anthony Anderberg Sr. Systems Analyst 320-234-5239<tel:320-234-5239> anthonyanderberg(a)nu-telecom.net<mailto:anthonyanderberg@nu-telecom.net> -----Original Message----- From: MICE Discuss [mailto:MICE-DISCUSS@LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET<mailto:MICE-DISCUSS@LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET>] On Behalf Of Jeremy Lumby Sent: Friday, August 31, 2012 12:24 PM To: MICE-DISCUSS(a)LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET<mailto:MICE-DISCUSS@LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET> Subject: [MICE-DISCUSS] Cacti Update I was just wondering if someone was working on updating Cacti to reflect the port assignments/new switches ________________________________ To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1 ######################################################################## To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1

Sept. 3, 2012

Re: Cacti Update

by Mike Horwath

On Fri, Aug 31, 2012 at 02:09:14PM -0500, Andrew Hoyos wrote: > On Aug 31, 2012, at 1:59 PM, Mike Bushard, Jr wrote: > > > So long ad the interfaces are named properly cacti should grab > > that automatically i think. > > Might have to change graph template --- if_descr vs if_alias, IIRC. I am going to take stats.micemn.net down unless someone objects. The files are there and I'll give it a few days just in case someone needs them. -- Mike Horwath ipHouse - Welcome home! drechsau(a)iphouse.net The universe is an island, surrounded by whatever it is that surrounds universes. - Berkeley Fortune ######################################################################## To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1

Sept. 3, 2012

Re: Cacti Update

by Andrew Hoyos

On Aug 31, 2012, at 1:59 PM, Mike Bushard, Jr wrote: > So long ad the interfaces are named properly cacti should grab that automatically i think. Might have to change graph template --- if_descr vs if_alias, IIRC. ######################################################################## To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1

Aug. 31, 2012

Re: Cacti Update

by Mike Bushard, Jr

So long ad the interfaces are named properly cacti should grab that automatically i think. Mike Bushard Jr | Network Engineer IV | Arvig | 320.256.0178 direct | 320.429.0837 Mobile Sent from my Verizon Wireless DROID RAZR by Motorola Please excuse short responses and spelling errors. On Aug 31, 2012 1:38 PM, "Jeremy Lumby" <jlumby(a)mnvoip.com> wrote: > When you do the update would you mind making the individual graph titles > show the member's name? It makes it much easier than going back and forth > to the participants page. > > -----Original Message----- > From: MICE Discuss [mailto:MICE-DISCUSS@LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET] On Behalf Of > Anthony Anderberg > Sent: Friday, August 31, 2012 1:20 PM > To: MICE-DISCUSS(a)LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET > Subject: Re: [MICE-DISCUSS] Cacti Update > > That's on my plate - I'm planning on grooming those this afternoon. > It just takes a couple steps to make sure I can preserve the history for > our aggregate graphs. > > > Anthony Anderberg > Sr. Systems Analyst > 320-234-5239 > anthonyanderberg(a)nu-telecom.net > > > -----Original Message----- > From: MICE Discuss [mailto:MICE-DISCUSS@LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET] On Behalf Of > Jeremy Lumby > Sent: Friday, August 31, 2012 12:24 PM > To: MICE-DISCUSS(a)LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET > Subject: [MICE-DISCUSS] Cacti Update > > I was just wondering if someone was working on updating Cacti to reflect > the port assignments/new switches > > ######################################################################## > > To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: > http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1 > > ######################################################################## > > To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: > http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1 > > ######################################################################## > > To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: > http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1 > ######################################################################## To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1

Aug. 31, 2012

Re: Cacti Update

by Justin Krejci

I typically just used the weathermap myself. On Fri, 2012-08-31 at 13:38 -0500, Jeremy Lumby wrote: > When you do the update would you mind making the individual graph titles show the member's name? It makes it much easier than going back and forth to the participants page. > > -----Original Message----- > From: MICE Discuss [mailto:MICE-DISCUSS@LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET] On Behalf Of Anthony Anderberg > Sent: Friday, August 31, 2012 1:20 PM > To: MICE-DISCUSS(a)LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET > Subject: Re: [MICE-DISCUSS] Cacti Update > > That's on my plate - I'm planning on grooming those this afternoon. > It just takes a couple steps to make sure I can preserve the history for our aggregate graphs. > > > Anthony Anderberg > Sr. Systems Analyst > 320-234-5239 > anthonyanderberg(a)nu-telecom.net > > > -----Original Message----- > From: MICE Discuss [mailto:MICE-DISCUSS@LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET] On Behalf Of Jeremy Lumby > Sent: Friday, August 31, 2012 12:24 PM > To: MICE-DISCUSS(a)LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET > Subject: [MICE-DISCUSS] Cacti Update > > I was just wondering if someone was working on updating Cacti to reflect the port assignments/new switches > > ######################################################################## > > To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: > http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1 > > ######################################################################## > > To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: > http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1 > > ######################################################################## > > To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: > http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1 ######################################################################## To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1

Aug. 31, 2012

Re: Cacti Update

by Jeremy Lumby

When you do the update would you mind making the individual graph titles show the member's name? It makes it much easier than going back and forth to the participants page. -----Original Message----- From: MICE Discuss [mailto:MICE-DISCUSS@LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET] On Behalf Of Anthony Anderberg Sent: Friday, August 31, 2012 1:20 PM To: MICE-DISCUSS(a)LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET Subject: Re: [MICE-DISCUSS] Cacti Update That's on my plate - I'm planning on grooming those this afternoon. It just takes a couple steps to make sure I can preserve the history for our aggregate graphs. Anthony Anderberg Sr. Systems Analyst 320-234-5239 anthonyanderberg(a)nu-telecom.net -----Original Message----- From: MICE Discuss [mailto:MICE-DISCUSS@LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET] On Behalf Of Jeremy Lumby Sent: Friday, August 31, 2012 12:24 PM To: MICE-DISCUSS(a)LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET Subject: [MICE-DISCUSS] Cacti Update I was just wondering if someone was working on updating Cacti to reflect the port assignments/new switches ######################################################################## To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1 ######################################################################## To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1 ######################################################################## To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1

Aug. 31, 2012

Re: Cacti Update

by Anthony Anderberg

That's on my plate - I'm planning on grooming those this afternoon. It just takes a couple steps to make sure I can preserve the history for our aggregate graphs. Anthony Anderberg Sr. Systems Analyst 320-234-5239 anthonyanderberg(a)nu-telecom.net -----Original Message----- From: MICE Discuss [mailto:MICE-DISCUSS@LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET] On Behalf Of Jeremy Lumby Sent: Friday, August 31, 2012 12:24 PM To: MICE-DISCUSS(a)LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET Subject: [MICE-DISCUSS] Cacti Update I was just wondering if someone was working on updating Cacti to reflect the port assignments/new switches ######################################################################## To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1 ######################################################################## To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1

Aug. 31, 2012

Cacti Update

by Jeremy Lumby

I was just wondering if someone was working on updating Cacti to reflect the port assignments/new switches ######################################################################## To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1

Aug. 31, 2012

Re: Problem emailing TDS

by Koch, Andrew

I have sent an email message directly to Jeremy and also left a voicemail message to follow-up. My test email to our peering(a)tdstelecom.com and my personal andrew.koch(a)tdstelecom.com were working as expected. The mail servers listed in the message below are correct (scale and ring.teldta.com) and it looks that scale did establish a TCP connection, but failed with my address being incorrect. If you are seeing trouble, don't hesitate to email or call me. Thanks, Andy Koch TDS Telecom - IP Network Operations andrew.koch(a)tdstelecom.com Desk: 608-664-4694 Cell: 608-616-0072 > -----Original Message----- > From: MICE Discuss [mailto:MICE-DISCUSS@LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET] On Behalf Of > Jeremy Lumby > Sent: Thursday, August 30, 2012 16:18 > To: MICE-DISCUSS(a)LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET > Subject: [MICE-DISCUSS] Problem emailing TDS > > I had a problem trying to email the TDS peering address, so I tried > Andrew directly with no luck. I am suspicious of the MX record (See > below), however I see the same result on several different DNS servers on > the web. Does anyone know if TDS is having an issue? > > Jeremy > > Failed address: koch(a)tdstelecom.com > > --- Session Transcript --- > Thu 2012-08-30 16:13:42: Parsing message > <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx\pd35000903998.msg> > Thu 2012-08-30 16:13:42: * From: jlumby(a)mnvoip.com Thu 2012-08-30 > 16:13:42: * To: koch(a)tdstelecom.com Thu 2012-08-30 16:13:42: * Subject: > Problem with peering address Thu 2012-08-30 16:13:42: * Size (bytes): > 4984 Thu 2012-08-30 16:13:42: * Message-ID: > <57736f1c.1cd86f4.3e061c.72ae(a)mnvoip.com> > Thu 2012-08-30 16:13:42: Attempting SMTP connection to [tdstelecom.com] > Thu 2012-08-30 16:13:42: Resolving MX records for [tdstelecom.com] (DNS > Server: 127.0.0.1)... > Thu 2012-08-30 16:13:42: * P=005 S=000 D=tdstelecom.com TTL=(41) > MX=[scale.teldta.com] {216.170.201.63} Thu 2012-08-30 16:13:42: * P=010 > S=001 D=tdstelecom.com TTL=(41) MX=[ring.teldta.com] {216.170.201.64} Thu > 2012-08-30 16:13:42: Attempting SMTP connection to [216.170.201.63:25] > Thu 2012-08-30 16:13:42: Waiting for socket connection... > Thu 2012-08-30 16:13:42: * Connection established (205.215.193.100:4305 > -> 216.170.201.63:25) Thu 2012-08-30 16:13:42: Waiting for protocol to > start... > Thu 2012-08-30 16:13:42: <-- 554 scale.teldta.com Thu 2012-08-30 > 16:13:42: --> QUIT > --- End Transcript --- > > ######################################################################## > > To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: > http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1 ######################################################################## To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1

Aug. 30, 2012

Re: Problem emailing TDS

by Matthew Beckwell

Our Bilateral sessions (IPv4 + IPv6) to TDS are up and passing traffic. Came up about 10 minutes after the "all clear" email was sent out. Although I'm still using the "old" IP...I haven't added anything (secondary or otherwise). ~Matthew -----Original Message----- From: MICE Discuss [mailto:MICE-DISCUSS@LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET] On Behalf Of Jeremy Lumby Sent: Thursday, August 30, 2012 4:18 PM To: MICE-DISCUSS(a)LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET Subject: [MICE-DISCUSS] Problem emailing TDS I had a problem trying to email the TDS peering address, so I tried Andrew directly with no luck. I am suspicious of the MX record (See below), however I see the same result on several different DNS servers on the web. Does anyone know if TDS is having an issue? Jeremy Failed address: koch(a)tdstelecom.com --- Session Transcript --- Thu 2012-08-30 16:13:42: Parsing message <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx\pd35000903998.msg> Thu 2012-08-30 16:13:42: * From: jlumby(a)mnvoip.com Thu 2012-08-30 16:13:42: * To: koch(a)tdstelecom.com Thu 2012-08-30 16:13:42: * Subject: Problem with peering address Thu 2012-08-30 16:13:42: * Size (bytes): 4984 Thu 2012-08-30 16:13:42: * Message-ID: <57736f1c.1cd86f4.3e061c.72ae(a)mnvoip.com> Thu 2012-08-30 16:13:42: Attempting SMTP connection to [tdstelecom.com] Thu 2012-08-30 16:13:42: Resolving MX records for [tdstelecom.com] (DNS Server: 127.0.0.1)... Thu 2012-08-30 16:13:42: * P=005 S=000 D=tdstelecom.com TTL=(41) MX=[scale.teldta.com] {216.170.201.63} Thu 2012-08-30 16:13:42: * P=010 S=001 D=tdstelecom.com TTL=(41) MX=[ring.teldta.com] {216.170.201.64} Thu 2012-08-30 16:13:42: Attempting SMTP connection to [216.170.201.63:25] Thu 2012-08-30 16:13:42: Waiting for socket connection... Thu 2012-08-30 16:13:42: * Connection established (205.215.193.100:4305 -> 216.170.201.63:25) Thu 2012-08-30 16:13:42: Waiting for protocol to start... Thu 2012-08-30 16:13:42: <-- 554 scale.teldta.com Thu 2012-08-30 16:13:42: --> QUIT --- End Transcript --- ######################################################################## To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1 ######################################################################## To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1

Aug. 30, 2012

Problem emailing TDS

by Jeremy Lumby

I had a problem trying to email the TDS peering address, so I tried Andrew directly with no luck. I am suspicious of the MX record (See below), however I see the same result on several different DNS servers on the web. Does anyone know if TDS is having an issue? Jeremy Failed address: koch(a)tdstelecom.com --- Session Transcript --- Thu 2012-08-30 16:13:42: Parsing message <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx\pd35000903998.msg> Thu 2012-08-30 16:13:42: * From: jlumby(a)mnvoip.com Thu 2012-08-30 16:13:42: * To: koch(a)tdstelecom.com Thu 2012-08-30 16:13:42: * Subject: Problem with peering address Thu 2012-08-30 16:13:42: * Size (bytes): 4984 Thu 2012-08-30 16:13:42: * Message-ID: <57736f1c.1cd86f4.3e061c.72ae(a)mnvoip.com> Thu 2012-08-30 16:13:42: Attempting SMTP connection to [tdstelecom.com] Thu 2012-08-30 16:13:42: Resolving MX records for [tdstelecom.com] (DNS Server: 127.0.0.1)... Thu 2012-08-30 16:13:42: * P=005 S=000 D=tdstelecom.com TTL=(41) MX=[scale.teldta.com] {216.170.201.63} Thu 2012-08-30 16:13:42: * P=010 S=001 D=tdstelecom.com TTL=(41) MX=[ring.teldta.com] {216.170.201.64} Thu 2012-08-30 16:13:42: Attempting SMTP connection to [216.170.201.63:25] Thu 2012-08-30 16:13:42: Waiting for socket connection... Thu 2012-08-30 16:13:42: * Connection established (205.215.193.100:4305 -> 216.170.201.63:25) Thu 2012-08-30 16:13:42: Waiting for protocol to start... Thu 2012-08-30 16:13:42: <-- 554 scale.teldta.com Thu 2012-08-30 16:13:42: --> QUIT --- End Transcript --- ######################################################################## To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1

Aug. 30, 2012

Re: IP address changes

by merlyn

On Thu, Aug 30, 2012 at 06:12:39PM +0000, Koch, Andrew wrote: > Was there consensus on v6 addressing scheme? 2001:504:27::/48 was the assigned block. Are we keeping the same last hextet here as well? Not yet. I tried to circle some people in internally since I was supposed to be helping with this part, give us a few days please. -- Doug McIntyre <merlyn(a)iphouse.net> -- ipHouse/Goldengate/Bitstream/ProNS -- Network Engineer/Provisioning/Jack of all Trades ######################################################################## To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1

Aug. 30, 2012

Re: IP address changes

by Koch, Andrew

> -----Original Message----- > From: MICE Discuss [mailto:MICE-DISCUSS@LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET] On Behalf Of > merlyn > Sent: Thursday, August 30, 2012 12:59 > To: MICE-DISCUSS(a)LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET > Subject: Re: [MICE-DISCUSS] IP address changes > > On Thu, Aug 30, 2012 at 12:41:00PM -0500, Jeremy Lumby wrote: > > I vaguely remember someone from the iphouse mentioning that they were > going to add secondary IP addresses to the route servers during the > outage. Just wondering if this has happened since I can only ping them on > their original addresses. > > That was Mike who is out of town this week, and the schedule of the > changeover took he and I unprepared as well. > > There, I've gone ahead and did the IPv4 entries to be 206.108.255.1 & > 206.108.255.2 since the general consensys is to keep the same IPv4 last > octet. > > Nobody should be announcing prefixes with the next hop of > 206.108.255.x yet though. > Was there consensus on v6 addressing scheme? 2001:504:27::/48 was the assigned block. Are we keeping the same last hextet here as well? Andy ######################################################################## To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1

Aug. 30, 2012

Re: IP address changes

by merlyn

On Thu, Aug 30, 2012 at 12:41:00PM -0500, Jeremy Lumby wrote: > I vaguely remember someone from the iphouse mentioning that they were going to add secondary IP addresses to the route servers during the outage. Just wondering if this has happened since I can only ping them on their original addresses. That was Mike who is out of town this week, and the schedule of the changeover took he and I unprepared as well. There, I've gone ahead and did the IPv4 entries to be 206.108.255.1 & 206.108.255.2 since the general consensys is to keep the same IPv4 last octet. Nobody should be announcing prefixes with the next hop of 206.108.255.x yet though. -- Doug McIntyre <merlyn(a)iphouse.net> -- ipHouse/Goldengate/Bitstream/ProNS -- Network Engineer/Provisioning/Jack of all Trades ######################################################################## To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1

Aug. 30, 2012

IP address changes

by Jeremy Lumby

I vaguely remember someone from the iphouse mentioning that they were going to add secondary IP addresses to the route servers during the outage. Just wondering if this has happened since I can only ping them on their original addresses. Jeremy Lumby Minnesota VoIP 9217 17th Ave S Suite 216 Bloomington, MN 55425 Main: 612-355-7740 Direct: 612-392-6814 E-Fax: 952-873-7425 jlumby(a)mnvoip.com ######################################################################## To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1

Aug. 30, 2012

Re: [MICE-ANNOUNCE] MICE SWITCH SWAP

by Mike Bushard Jr

The switch cutover is complete. Mike Bushard, Jr | Network Engineer IV | Arvig | 320.256.7471 Office | 320.256.0178 Direct | 320.429.0837 Mobile ** NEW NUMBER ** | 320-256-7555 Fax *** Please update your address book with my new work email: mike.bushard(a)arvig.com *** -----Original Message----- From: Mike Bushard Jr [mailto:mike.bushard@arvig.com] Sent: Thursday, August 30, 2012 11:35 AM To: 'mice-discuss(a)LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET'; 'MICE-ANNOUNCE(a)LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET' Subject: RE: [MICE-ANNOUNCE] MICE SWITCH SWAP Anthony and I are ready to start the cut to the new switches. We will be moving the route servers first, then members. Mike Bushard, Jr | Network Engineer IV | Arvig | 320.256.7471 Office | 320.256.0178 Direct | 320.429.0837 Mobile ** NEW NUMBER ** | 320-256-7555 Fax *** Please update your address book with my new work email: mike.bushard(a)arvig.com *** -----Original Message----- From: MICE Announcements [mailto:MICE-ANNOUNCE@LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET] On Behalf Of Jay Hanke Sent: Wednesday, August 29, 2012 4:41 PM To: MICE-ANNOUNCE(a)LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET Subject: [MICE-ANNOUNCE] MICE SWITCH SWAP As a reminder, we'll be swapping out the MICE core switch tomorrow starting= at about 9:30am. We'll send out a note when finished, if anyone has questions you can reach = my cell phone at 320-234-5539 Thanks, anthony Anthony Anderberg Sr. Systems Analyst [NUtel_email_logo_1] 320-234-5239 anthonyanderberg(a)nu-telecom.net<mailto:anthonyanderberg@nu-telecom.net> www.nutelecom.net<http://www.nutelecom.net> ######################################################################## To unsubscribe from the MICE-ANNOUNCE list, click the following link: &*TICKET_URL(MICE-ANNOUNCE,SIGNOFF); ######################################################################## To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1

Aug. 30, 2012

Re: [MICE-ANNOUNCE] MICE SWITCH SWAP

by Mike Bushard Jr

Anthony and I are ready to start the cut to the new switches. We will be moving the route servers first, then members. Mike Bushard, Jr | Network Engineer IV | Arvig | 320.256.7471 Office | 320.256.0178 Direct | 320.429.0837 Mobile ** NEW NUMBER ** | 320-256-7555 Fax *** Please update your address book with my new work email: mike.bushard(a)arvig.com *** -----Original Message----- From: MICE Announcements [mailto:MICE-ANNOUNCE@LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET] On Behalf Of Jay Hanke Sent: Wednesday, August 29, 2012 4:41 PM To: MICE-ANNOUNCE(a)LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET Subject: [MICE-ANNOUNCE] MICE SWITCH SWAP As a reminder, we'll be swapping out the MICE core switch tomorrow starting= at about 9:30am. We'll send out a note when finished, if anyone has questions you can reach = my cell phone at 320-234-5539 Thanks, anthony Anthony Anderberg Sr. Systems Analyst [NUtel_email_logo_1] 320-234-5239 anthonyanderberg(a)nu-telecom.net<mailto:anthonyanderberg@nu-telecom.net> www.nutelecom.net<http://www.nutelecom.net> ######################################################################## To unsubscribe from the MICE-ANNOUNCE list, click the following link: &*TICKET_URL(MICE-ANNOUNCE,SIGNOFF); ######################################################################## To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1

Aug. 30, 2012

Re: Switch Swap Tomorrow

by Mike Bushard Jr

Anthony and I are ready to start the cut to the new switches. We will be moving the route servers first, then members. Mike Bushard, Jr | Network Engineer IV | *Arvig* | 320.256.7471 Office | 320.256.0178 Direct | 320.429.0837 Mobile ** NEW NUMBER ** | 320-256-7555 Fax [image: Description: Description: http://ipstats.arvig.net/arviglogo.jpeg] *** Please update your address book with my new work email: mike.bushard(a)arvig.com *** *From:* MICE Discuss [mailto:MICE-DISCUSS@LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET] *On Behalf Of *Anthony Anderberg *Sent:* Wednesday, August 29, 2012 3:11 PM *To:* MICE-DISCUSS(a)LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET *Subject:* [MICE-DISCUSS] Switch Swap Tomorrow As a reminder, we'll be swapping out the MICE core switch tomorrow starting at about 9:30am. We'll send out a note when finished, if anyone has questions you can reach my cell phone at 320-234-5539 Thanks, anthony *Anthony Anderberg* Sr. Systems Analyst [image: NUtel_email_logo_1] 320-234-5239 anthonyanderberg(a)nu-telecom.net *www.nutelecom.net* * * ------------------------------ To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1 ######################################################################## To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1

Aug. 30, 2012

Re: MICE Traffic Drops

by Eric Crist

We don't currently have any direct investment in MICE, but I don't ever recall a firm plan being presented and agreed upon on the list. It appears as though the switch migration and IP assignment work was unilaterally decided and things 'just happened.' On Aug 30, 2012 11:03 AM, "Bertsch, Steven" <sbertsch(a)visi.com> wrote: > We also shut sessions down this morning before the maintenance, and plan > on bringing them back up sometime after the maintenance completion > announcement is sent.**** > > ** ** > > Also, after the surprise maintenance announcement last night, I decided to > skim the MICE-DISCUSS list and found the re-numbering discussion. I > didn’t see any sort of plan come out of it, except that it would be a > generally bad idea to combine both maintenances together.**** > > ** ** > > Could someone make sure to post the plan to MICE-ANNOUNCE when one has > been worked out?**** > > ** ** > > ** ** > > *Steven Bertsch* > > Engineer III**** > > VISI, a TDS® Company**** > > 24x7 Support: 612.395.9010**** > > Direct: 612.395.8966**** > > Main: 612.395.9000**** > > Email: *support(a)visi.com***** > > Web: www.visi.com**** > > ** ** > > *From:* MICE Discuss [mailto:MICE-DISCUSS@LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET] *On Behalf > Of *Jeremy Lumby > *Sent:* Thursday, August 30, 2012 10:05 AM > *To:* MICE-DISCUSS(a)LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET > *Subject:* Re: [MICE-DISCUSS] MICE Traffic Drops**** > > ** ** > > I shut down BGP last night so when they replace the switch today it will > not drop calls mid conversation. I plan on turning it back up after the > switch is replaced, and I have added the new IP addresses, and moved the > old ones to be secondary on my interface **** > > ** ** > ------------------------------ > > *From:* MICE Discuss [mailto:MICE-DISCUSS@LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET] *On Behalf > Of *Justin Krejci > *Sent:* Thursday, August 30, 2012 10:00 AM > *To:* MICE-DISCUSS(a)LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET > *Subject:* [MICE-DISCUSS] MICE Traffic Drops**** > > After noticing we hit over 3gig now I observed SDN, Visi, TDS, and MNVoIP > all have their traffic rates drop off to basically nothing and not all at > the same time. > I know our TDS bilateral BGP session is down as well. > > Is there something going on with the switch or is it just a coincidence > several folks are doing things on their networks on the same day? > > **** > ------------------------------ > > To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: > http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1 **** > > ** ** > ------------------------------ > > To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: > http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1 **** > > ------------------------------ > > To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: > http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1 > ######################################################################## To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1

Aug. 30, 2012

Re: MICE Traffic Drops

by Bertsch, Steven

We also shut sessions down this morning before the maintenance, and plan on bringing them back up sometime after the maintenance completion announcement is sent. Also, after the surprise maintenance announcement last night, I decided to skim the MICE-DISCUSS list and found the re-numbering discussion. I didn't see any sort of plan come out of it, except that it would be a generally bad idea to combine both maintenances together. Could someone make sure to post the plan to MICE-ANNOUNCE when one has been worked out? Steven Bertsch Engineer III VISI, a TDS(r) Company 24x7 Support: 612.395.9010 Direct: 612.395.8966 Main: 612.395.9000 Email: support(a)visi.com<mailto:support@visi.com> Web: www.visi.com<http://www.visi.com/> From: MICE Discuss [mailto:MICE-DISCUSS@LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET] On Behalf Of Jeremy Lumby Sent: Thursday, August 30, 2012 10:05 AM To: MICE-DISCUSS(a)LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET Subject: Re: [MICE-DISCUSS] MICE Traffic Drops I shut down BGP last night so when they replace the switch today it will not drop calls mid conversation. I plan on turning it back up after the switch is replaced, and I have added the new IP addresses, and moved the old ones to be secondary on my interface ________________________________ From: MICE Discuss [mailto:MICE-DISCUSS@LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET]<mailto:[mailto:MICE-DISCUSS@LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET]> On Behalf Of Justin Krejci Sent: Thursday, August 30, 2012 10:00 AM To: MICE-DISCUSS(a)LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET<mailto:MICE-DISCUSS@LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET> Subject: [MICE-DISCUSS] MICE Traffic Drops After noticing we hit over 3gig now I observed SDN, Visi, TDS, and MNVoIP all have their traffic rates drop off to basically nothing and not all at the same time. I know our TDS bilateral BGP session is down as well. Is there something going on with the switch or is it just a coincidence several folks are doing things on their networks on the same day? ________________________________ To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1 ________________________________ To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1 ######################################################################## To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1

Aug. 30, 2012

Re: MICE Traffic Drops

by Jeremy Lumby

I am not running V6, so I did not follow if a consensus was reached, however for V4 everyone agreed with 206.108.255.0/24 keeping the last octet the same as currently assigned. ________________________________ From: MICE Discuss [mailto:MICE-DISCUSS@LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET] On Behalf Of Justin Krejci Sent: Thursday, August 30, 2012 10:16 AM To: MICE-DISCUSS(a)LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET Subject: Re: [MICE-DISCUSS] MICE Traffic Drops What IP addresses did you use? As others have commented as well, I don't recall seeing any address assignments for the new blocks. I would imagine it will be the same last v4 octet and last v6 hextet as what we have now but that was not declared by those in charge. If I am wrong on this please point out where the IP assignments are located for the new address space. On Thu, 2012-08-30 at 10:05 -0500, Jeremy Lumby wrote: I shut down BGP last night so when they replace the switch today it will not drop calls mid conversation. I plan on turning it back up after the switch is replaced, and I have added the new IP addresses, and moved the old ones to be secondary on my interface ________________________________ From: MICE Discuss [mailto:MICE-DISCUSS@LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET] On Behalf Of Justin Krejci Sent: Thursday, August 30, 2012 10:00 AM To: MICE-DISCUSS(a)LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET Subject: [MICE-DISCUSS] MICE Traffic Drops After noticing we hit over 3gig now I observed SDN, Visi, TDS, and MNVoIP all have their traffic rates drop off to basically nothing and not all at the same time. I know our TDS bilateral BGP session is down as well. Is there something going on with the switch or is it just a coincidence several folks are doing things on their networks on the same day? ________________________________ To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1 ________________________________ To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1 ________________________________ To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1 ######################################################################## To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1

Aug. 30, 2012

Re: MICE Traffic Drops

by Justin Krejci

What IP addresses did you use? As others have commented as well, I don't recall seeing any address assignments for the new blocks. I would imagine it will be the same last v4 octet and last v6 hextet as what we have now but that was not declared by those in charge. If I am wrong on this please point out where the IP assignments are located for the new address space. On Thu, 2012-08-30 at 10:05 -0500, Jeremy Lumby wrote: > I shut down BGP last night so when they replace the switch today it > will not drop calls mid conversation. I plan on turning it back up > after the switch is replaced, and I have added the new IP addresses, > and moved the old ones to be secondary on my interface > > > > > ______________________________________________________________________ > From: MICE Discuss [mailto:MICE-DISCUSS@LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET] On Behalf > Of Justin Krejci > Sent: Thursday, August 30, 2012 10:00 AM > To: MICE-DISCUSS(a)LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET > Subject: [MICE-DISCUSS] MICE Traffic Drops > > > > > After noticing we hit over 3gig now I observed SDN, Visi, TDS, and > MNVoIP all have their traffic rates drop off to basically nothing and > not all at the same time. > I know our TDS bilateral BGP session is down as well. > > Is there something going on with the switch or is it just a > coincidence several folks are doing things on their networks on the > same day? > > > > ______________________________________________________________________ > > To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: > http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1 > > > > ______________________________________________________________________ > > To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: > http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1 > ######################################################################## To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1

Aug. 30, 2012

Re: MICE Traffic Drops

by Steve Howard

Justin, On 08/30/2012 10:00 AM, Justin Krejci wrote: > After noticing we hit over 3gig now I observed SDN, Visi, TDS, and > MNVoIP all have their traffic rates drop off to basically nothing and > not all at the same time. > I know our TDS bilateral BGP session is down as well. > > Is there something going on with the switch or is it just a > coincidence several folks are doing things on their networks on the > same day? Paul Bunyan and CNS (and I suspect the others mentioned above) have dropped their BGP sessions so customers won't see an interruption when the switch change happens this morning. Steve ######################################################################## To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1

Aug. 30, 2012

Re: MICE Traffic Drops

by Jeremy Lumby

I shut down BGP last night so when they replace the switch today it will not drop calls mid conversation. I plan on turning it back up after the switch is replaced, and I have added the new IP addresses, and moved the old ones to be secondary on my interface From: MICE Discuss [mailto:MICE-DISCUSS@LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET] On Behalf Of Justin Krejci Sent: Thursday, August 30, 2012 10:00 AM To: MICE-DISCUSS(a)LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET Subject: [MICE-DISCUSS] MICE Traffic Drops After noticing we hit over 3gig now I observed SDN, Visi, TDS, and MNVoIP all have their traffic rates drop off to basically nothing and not all at the same time. I know our TDS bilateral BGP session is down as well. Is there something going on with the switch or is it just a coincidence several folks are doing things on their networks on the same day? To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1 ######################################################################## To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1

Aug. 30, 2012

MICE Traffic Drops

by Justin Krejci

After noticing we hit over 3gig now I observed SDN, Visi, TDS, and MNVoIP all have their traffic rates drop off to basically nothing and not all at the same time. I know our TDS bilateral BGP session is down as well. Is there something going on with the switch or is it just a coincidence several folks are doing things on their networks on the same day? ######################################################################## To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1

Aug. 30, 2012

Re: Switch Swap Tomorrow

by Koch, Andrew

> -----Original Message----- > From: MICE Discuss [mailto:MICE-DISCUSS@LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET] On Behalf Of > Owen DeLong > Sent: Wednesday, August 29, 2012 20:11 > To: MICE-DISCUSS(a)LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET > Subject: Re: [MICE-DISCUSS] Switch Swap Tomorrow > > To clarify, I do still recommend that people add the new addresses to > their interfaces during the swap. > Which addresses? Again, I don't show that assignments were made, nor was it communicated to MICE-ANNOUNCE. Regards, Andy Koch TDS Telecom - IP Network Operations andrew.koch(a)tdstelecom.com Desk: 608-664-4694 Cell: 608-616-0072 ######################################################################## To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1

Aug. 30, 2012

Re: Switch Swap Tomorrow

by Owen DeLong

To clarify, I do still recommend that people add the new addresses to their interfaces during the swap. Owen On Aug 29, 2012, at 14:12 , merlyn <merlyn(a)IPHOUSE.NET> wrote: > On Wed, Aug 29, 2012 at 08:50:31PM +0000, Koch, Andrew wrote: >> Did I miss a message someplace? I don't see any messages that announced the switch swap date was formalized. I would also recommend that major work such as this be announced on the MICE-ANNOUNCE list as some do not subscribe to the more active MICE-DISCUSS list. > > > I don't think the date/time was announced on MICE-DISCUSS either? > > There was discussion of the pending switch upgrade. I brought up > possibly renumbering during downtime which enough people seem to be > hesistant about. But I never saw a date/time for the switch cutover > in that thread or any other? > > -- > Doug McIntyre <merlyn(a)iphouse.net> > -- ipHouse/Goldengate/Bitstream/ProNS -- > Network Engineer/Provisioning/Jack of all Trades > > ######################################################################## > > To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: > http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1 ######################################################################## To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1

Aug. 30, 2012

Re: Switch Swap Tomorrow

by merlyn

On Wed, Aug 29, 2012 at 08:50:31PM +0000, Koch, Andrew wrote: > Did I miss a message someplace? I don't see any messages that announced the switch swap date was formalized. I would also recommend that major work such as this be announced on the MICE-ANNOUNCE list as some do not subscribe to the more active MICE-DISCUSS list. I don't think the date/time was announced on MICE-DISCUSS either? There was discussion of the pending switch upgrade. I brought up possibly renumbering during downtime which enough people seem to be hesistant about. But I never saw a date/time for the switch cutover in that thread or any other? -- Doug McIntyre <merlyn(a)iphouse.net> -- ipHouse/Goldengate/Bitstream/ProNS -- Network Engineer/Provisioning/Jack of all Trades ######################################################################## To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1

Aug. 29, 2012

Re: Switch Swap Tomorrow

by Koch, Andrew

Did I miss a message someplace? I don't see any messages that announced the switch swap date was formalized. I would also recommend that major work such as this be announced on the MICE-ANNOUNCE list as some do not subscribe to the more active MICE-DISCUSS list. Regards, Andy Koch TDS Telecom - IP Network Operations andrew.koch(a)tdstelecom.com Desk: 608-664-4694 Cell: 608-616-0072 ######################################################################## To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1

Aug. 29, 2012

Switch Swap Tomorrow

by Anthony Anderberg

As a reminder, we'll be swapping out the MICE core switch tomorrow starting at about 9:30am. We'll send out a note when finished, if anyone has questions you can reach my cell phone at 320-234-5539 Thanks, anthony Anthony Anderberg Sr. Systems Analyst [NUtel_email_logo_1] 320-234-5239 anthonyanderberg(a)nu-telecom.net<mailto:anthonyanderberg@nu-telecom.net> www.nutelecom.net ######################################################################## To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1

Aug. 29, 2012