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Re: MICE UG15; Please RESPOND by Tuesday, January 13th!

by Hannigan, Martin

RSVP Request In order to plan appropriately and ensure we meet quorum rules for voting purposes, please respond NLT 13 Jan 2015 with the following: Organization Name: Akamai AS20940 Attendance plan (In-Person, Remote, Not Attending): Remote Number of planned attendees for remote call in: 1 Best, -M<

Jan. 9, 2015

MICE UG15; Please RESPOND by Tuesday, January 13th!

by Shaun Carlson

Good morning, I have several things for the group this morning. *MICE UG 15* First, a reminder of our upcoming meeting on: *Wednesday, January 14th, 2015 @ 4:00 PM in the 511 Building Cafeteria* *RSVP Request* In order to plan appropriately and ensure we meet quorum rules for voting purposes, please respond NLT 13 Jan 2015 with the following: *Organization Name*: *Attendance plan (In-Person, Remote, Not Attending)*: *Number of planned attendees for remote call in*: * The last item is to ensure I have enough seats available in the webex room *Remote Attendance Information* If you're attending remote, here is the information you'll need: *Service*: Webex (www.webex.com) *Meeting Number*: 191 022 802 *Meeting Password*: UG14is4Me! *Meeting URL*: http://bit.ly/1xYUPRq *Agenda* Attached is the draft copy of our agenda for UG 15. Please let me know if you'd like anything added or changed. *UG 14 Minutes* Attached are the minutes from UG 14. Please review and let me know of any corrections. Thanks, see you Wednesday! s *Shaun Carlson*Senior Manager of Information Technology | Arvig ph: (218) 346-8673 | em: shaun.carlson(a)arvig.com

Jan. 9, 2015

Re: UG 15 Reminder

by dangieser

We sent a quote to the board members for support renewal on 10/27 and never heard anything back. Support has expired on the switches but can be be brought back under support - typically for a pro-rated cost. I'll get the new cost and we'll send it again. As for a request for support information - neither Levi or myself received any such request. We'll be more than happy to supply it to whomever needs it - just let me know who. Thanks, Dan Gieser Mankato Networks Cell: 507-327-5341 Desk: 507-242-6469 dangieser(a)mankatonetworks.net ------ Original Message ------ From: "Jeremy Lumby" <jlumby(a)mnvoip.com> To: MICE-DISCUSS(a)lists.iphouse.net Sent: 1/5/2015 3:04:00 PM Subject: Re: [MICE-DISCUSS] UG 15 Reminder >I would like an update on our Juniper service contract. I know when >Anthony had some switch issues, he was looking for the information from >Mankato Networks so he could contact Juniper, and I am not sure if he >ever got it or not. Either way, I would like to make sure the service >contract info is available to all of the people who have access to the >switches. > > > >From: MICE Discuss [mailto:MICE-DISCUSS@LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET] On Behalf Of >Jake Lubitz >Sent: Monday, January 05, 2015 2:18 PM >To:MICE-DISCUSS@LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET >Subject: Re: [MICE-DISCUSS] UG 15 Reminder > > > >I’d also like to see on the agenda a discussion point on a secondary >site for the exchange with the possibility of DataBank and other data >center/co-location service providers to call into the bridge to discuss >what they would be willing to donate to the exchange. > > > >Many thanks in advance. > > > >Jake > > > >From: MICE Discuss [mailto:MICE-DISCUSS@LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET] On Behalf Of >Andrew Hoyos >Sent: Monday, January 05, 2015 9:38 AM >To:MICE-DISCUSS@LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET >Subject: Re: [MICE-DISCUSS] UG 15 Reminder > > > >I’m going to try and attend in person, but if not, will definitely >participate remotely. > > > >Few things I’d like to see on the agenda: > > > > - BGP communities on route-servers (need to formalize these, get them >posted to website, and add proper action communities) > > - maintenance procedure discussion (advance notice, notifications, >perhaps some sort of approval of major changes by the SC, etc) > > > >I’d tend to agree with Frank’s earlier suggestion of 5 days notice, and >a “fixed” weekly/bi-weekly window where things happen. > > > >Thanks! > >Andrew > > > >-- > >Andrew Hoyos > >hoyosa(a)gmail.com > > > > > > > >>On Dec 26, 2014, at 10:47 AM, Shaun Carlson <shaun.carlson(a)ARVIG.COM> >>wrote: >> >> >> >>All, >> >> >> >>Just a quick reminder that UG 15 is coming up on Wednesday, January >>14th. >> >> >>It will be at 4:00 PM at the 511 Building Cafeteria. >> >> >> >>Please send me any agenda items you may have. Also, please let me >>know if you will be attending remotely. >> >> >> >>Thanks and I'll see you all there! >> >> >> >>s >> >> >> >>Shaun Carlson >>Senior Manager of Information Technology | Arvig >> >>ph: (218) 346-8673 | em: shaun.carlson(a)arvig.com >> >> >> >>-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- >>To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: >>http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1 >> > > > > >-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- >To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: >http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1 > > > >-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- >To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: >http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1 > > >-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- >To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: >http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1 >

Jan. 5, 2015

Re: UG 15 Reminder

by Jeremy Lumby

I would like an update on our Juniper service contract. I know when Anthony had some switch issues, he was looking for the information from Mankato Networks so he could contact Juniper, and I am not sure if he ever got it or not. Either way, I would like to make sure the service contract info is available to all of the people who have access to the switches. From: MICE Discuss [mailto:MICE-DISCUSS@LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET] On Behalf Of Jake Lubitz Sent: Monday, January 05, 2015 2:18 PM To: MICE-DISCUSS(a)LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET Subject: Re: [MICE-DISCUSS] UG 15 Reminder I’d also like to see on the agenda a discussion point on a secondary site for the exchange with the possibility of DataBank and other data center/co-location service providers to call into the bridge to discuss what they would be willing to donate to the exchange. Many thanks in advance. Jake From: MICE Discuss [mailto:MICE-DISCUSS@LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET] On Behalf Of Andrew Hoyos Sent: Monday, January 05, 2015 9:38 AM To: MICE-DISCUSS(a)LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET Subject: Re: [MICE-DISCUSS] UG 15 Reminder I’m going to try and attend in person, but if not, will definitely participate remotely. Few things I’d like to see on the agenda: - BGP communities on route-servers (need to formalize these, get them posted to website, and add proper action communities) - maintenance procedure discussion (advance notice, notifications, perhaps some sort of approval of major changes by the SC, etc) I’d tend to agree with Frank’s earlier suggestion of 5 days notice, and a “fixed” weekly/bi-weekly window where things happen. Thanks! Andrew -- Andrew Hoyos hoyosa(a)gmail.com On Dec 26, 2014, at 10:47 AM, Shaun Carlson <shaun.carlson(a)ARVIG.COM> wrote: All, Just a quick reminder that UG 15 is coming up on Wednesday, January 14th. It will be at 4:00 PM at the 511 Building Cafeteria. Please send me any agenda items you may have. Also, please let me know if you will be attending remotely. Thanks and I'll see you all there! s Shaun Carlson Senior Manager of Information Technology | Arvig ph: (218) 346-8673 | em: shaun.carlson(a)arvig.com To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1 To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1 To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1

Jan. 5, 2015

Re: UG 15 Reminder

by Jake Lubitz

I’d also like to see on the agenda a discussion point on a secondary site for the exchange with the possibility of DataBank and other data center/co-location service providers to call into the bridge to discuss what they would be willing to donate to the exchange. Many thanks in advance. Jake From: MICE Discuss [mailto:MICE-DISCUSS@LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET] On Behalf Of Andrew Hoyos Sent: Monday, January 05, 2015 9:38 AM To: MICE-DISCUSS(a)LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET Subject: Re: [MICE-DISCUSS] UG 15 Reminder I’m going to try and attend in person, but if not, will definitely participate remotely. Few things I’d like to see on the agenda: - BGP communities on route-servers (need to formalize these, get them posted to website, and add proper action communities) - maintenance procedure discussion (advance notice, notifications, perhaps some sort of approval of major changes by the SC, etc) I’d tend to agree with Frank’s earlier suggestion of 5 days notice, and a “fixed” weekly/bi-weekly window where things happen. Thanks! Andrew -- Andrew Hoyos hoyosa(a)gmail.com<mailto:hoyosa@gmail.com> On Dec 26, 2014, at 10:47 AM, Shaun Carlson <shaun.carlson(a)ARVIG.COM<mailto:shaun.carlson@ARVIG.COM>> wrote: All, Just a quick reminder that UG 15 is coming up on Wednesday, January 14th. It will be at 4:00 PM at the 511 Building Cafeteria. Please send me any agenda items you may have. Also, please let me know if you will be attending remotely. Thanks and I'll see you all there! s Shaun Carlson Senior Manager of Information Technology | Arvig ph: (218) 346-8673 | em: shaun.carlson(a)arvig.com<mailto:shaun.carlson@arvig.com> ________________________________ To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1 ________________________________ To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1

Jan. 5, 2015

Re: UG 15 Reminder

by Andrew Hoyos

I’m going to try and attend in person, but if not, will definitely participate remotely. Few things I’d like to see on the agenda: - BGP communities on route-servers (need to formalize these, get them posted to website, and add proper action communities) - maintenance procedure discussion (advance notice, notifications, perhaps some sort of approval of major changes by the SC, etc) I’d tend to agree with Frank’s earlier suggestion of 5 days notice, and a “fixed” weekly/bi-weekly window where things happen. Thanks! Andrew -- Andrew Hoyos hoyosa(a)gmail.com > On Dec 26, 2014, at 10:47 AM, Shaun Carlson <shaun.carlson(a)ARVIG.COM> wrote: > > All, > > Just a quick reminder that UG 15 is coming up on Wednesday, January 14th. > > It will be at 4:00 PM at the 511 Building Cafeteria. > > Please send me any agenda items you may have. Also, please let me know if you will be attending remotely. > > Thanks and I'll see you all there! > > s > > Shaun Carlson > Senior Manager of Information Technology | Arvig > ph: (218) 346-8673 | em: shaun.carlson(a)arvig.com <mailto:shaun.carlson@arvig.com> > To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: > http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1 <http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1>

Jan. 5, 2015

Re: UG 15 Reminder

by Hannigan, Martin

On Jan 5, 2015, at 9:58 AM, Chris Wopat <me(a)FALZ.NET> wrote: >> Date: Fri, 26 Dec 2014 10:59:18 -0600 >> From: Jason Hanke <jayhanke(a)NEUTRALPATH.NET> >> Subject: Re: UG 15 Reminder >> >> There has been a couple of requests for remote participation. >> >> Would it be possible to get a hard wired connection in the cafeteria? > > Folks, > > Curious if any progress has been made for a decent call in solution? I > had called in last meeting and it was very difficult to make out > anything. > > Thanks! > Chris Wopat +1. I'd like to be there in person and will someday get to one that doesn't collide with travel, but in the meantime a good dial solution would be great. Thanks! -M<

Jan. 5, 2015

Re: UG 15 Reminder

by Shaun Carlson

I will be sending out a meeting invite this week. I think I have a microphone solution that will work and we're working on getting a direct connect for Internet to the room to overcome the slow upload speeds that caused much of the issue last month. s *Shaun Carlson*Senior Manager of Information Technology | Arvig ph: (218) 346-8673 | em: shaun.carlson(a)arvig.com On Mon, Jan 5, 2015 at 8:58 AM, Chris Wopat <me(a)falz.net> wrote: > > Date: Fri, 26 Dec 2014 10:59:18 -0600 > > From: Jason Hanke <jayhanke(a)NEUTRALPATH.NET> > > Subject: Re: UG 15 Reminder > > > > There has been a couple of requests for remote participation. > > > > Would it be possible to get a hard wired connection in the cafeteria? > > Folks, > > Curious if any progress has been made for a decent call in solution? I > had called in last meeting and it was very difficult to make out > anything. > > Thanks! > Chris Wopat >

Jan. 5, 2015

Re: UG 15 Reminder

by Chris Wopat

> Date: Fri, 26 Dec 2014 10:59:18 -0600 > From: Jason Hanke <jayhanke(a)NEUTRALPATH.NET> > Subject: Re: UG 15 Reminder > > There has been a couple of requests for remote participation. > > Would it be possible to get a hard wired connection in the cafeteria? Folks, Curious if any progress has been made for a decent call in solution? I had called in last meeting and it was very difficult to make out anything. Thanks! Chris Wopat

Jan. 5, 2015

Re: Statistics reporting for MICE?

by Jeremy Lumby

I agree with the minimum of 24 hour notice to the list so that the members have the option of shutting down BGP ahead of time. I think if we make it much more complicated than that, then we discourage people from volunteering, and since MICE is 100% volunteer based, we would be doing ourselves a disservice. The donation was technically a personal one, however since I am a partial owner of MN VoIP, there is not much difference. I do want to reiterate my standing offer to anyone thinking about connecting to MICE, since I have not formally said it on the list. I am willing to provide free assistance to anyone interested in connecting to MICE, if it is a small entity that needs help with BGP, or a large one that does not have a local presence, and needs remote hands to get hooked up. Jeremy From: MICE Discuss [mailto:MICE-DISCUSS@LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET] On Behalf Of Brady Kittel Sent: Saturday, January 03, 2015 11:28 PM To: MICE-DISCUSS(a)LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET Subject: Re: [MICE-DISCUSS] Statistics reporting for MICE? I agree we probably need to set some standards for maintenance going forward, regardless I'd like to thank Jeremy (or is in MN VOIP?) for the equipment donated to MICE as those modules are several thousand dollars a piece and we could really use every port we can get right now. On Sat, Jan 3, 2015 at 11:00 PM, Jeremy Lumby <jlumby(a)mnvoip.com> wrote: Correct, inserting a hot swapable module essentially caused the 4200 switch to restart. From: MICE Discuss [mailto:MICE-DISCUSS@LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET] On Behalf Of Danny Meister Sent: Saturday, January 03, 2015 10:28 PM To: MICE-DISCUSS(a)LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET Subject: Re: [MICE-DISCUSS] Statistics reporting for MICE? So am I correct in understanding that there was some kind of maintenance activity on Friday afternoon? Our MICE facing port was physically down between 13:38:54 and 13:40:05 on Friday. -Danny Danny Meister – Network Engineer, Level III Atomic Data 615 North 3rd Street Minneapolis, MN 55401 612.466.2000 Main Line 612.466.2071 Direct Dial Twitter | Facebook | LinkedIn Safe. Simple. Smart. www.atomicdata.com From: Matthew Beckwell <matthewb(a)AITECH.NET> Reply-To: MICE Discuss <MICE-DISCUSS(a)LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET> Date: Saturday, January 3, 2015 at 12:23 PM To: "MICE-DISCUSS(a)LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET" <MICE-DISCUSS(a)LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET> Subject: Re: [MICE-DISCUSS] Statistics reporting for MICE? I'm with Andrew on his suggestion of either a formalized or gentlemen's agreement for a "heads up" with these types of activities. We experienced at least a partial outage (i.e. UDP Packet Loss) over MICE between 13:38:47 and 13:40:02 on Friday. I know this activity wasn't supposed to be service impacting-- but accidents and unexpected things happen. A heads up would give conservative members the opportunity to re-route in a controlled manner (if they desire). My personal preference would be a 24 hour notice so I could take action the night before, but I'll take what I can get (even if it's only an hour). ~Matthew Matthew Beckwell - Director of Network Operations Advanced Integrated Technologies Technical Support: 1-800-300-5408 Office: 1-952-829-5511 x204 E-Mail: matthewb(a)aitech.net On Sat, Jan 3, 2015 at 8:01 AM, Andrew Hoyos <hoyosa(a)gmail.com> wrote: I may have missed something, but I don’t recall seeing any email chatter about this happening. Unsure what the normal ops/maintenance protocol is, but I’d say when doing stuff like below (module adds/swaps), at least a heads up to mice-discuss would be in order for the benefit of all the members. Or given the growth of MICE, perhaps it’s time the steering committee should formalize something there. Thoughts from other folks? As far as the graphs, we should look at fixing the RRD files to remove that spike with the wacky/erroneous values so things look proper still. I’d be happy to help with that if anyone needs a hand. I think there may even be a Cacti plugin that does that, IIRC. -- Andrew Hoyos hoyosa(a)gmail.com > On Jan 2, 2015, at 8:28 PM, Jeremy Lumby <jlumby(a)MNVOIP.COM> wrote: > > The huge Cacti traffic spike coincided with adding a 4 port fiber module to the 4200 switch. Juniper claimed it was hot swappable, however the issues were more than they eluded to. > > This came about since I donated some modules to hold MICE over until a more permanent hardware upgrade can be picked. The good news is the 4500 now has 4 additional SFP+ ports, and the 4200 now has 4 SFP ports. This will allow some of the members that are at 1G that needed a fiber handoff to be moved to the 4200 freeing up additional 10G ports in the 4500. > > -----Original Message----- > From: MICE Discuss [mailto:MICE-DISCUSS@LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET] On Behalf Of Richard Laager > Sent: Friday, January 02, 2015 8:06 PM > To: MICE-DISCUSS(a)LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET > Subject: Re: [MICE-DISCUSS] Statistics reporting for MICE? > > I was going to say that I thought we were doing exactly that at http://micemn.net but when I pulled up the website to verify, I see that something is very wrong with the graph. > > Did anyone change something in Cacti recently? > > -- > Richard > >> On Jan 2, 2015, at 7:10 PM, Hannigan, Martin <marty(a)AKAMAI.COM> wrote: >> >> >> >> FYI, >> >> http://micelg.usinternet.com/export/graph_385.html shows in+out where http://micelg.usinternet.com/export/graph_384.html shows in/out. Which one should we use? >> >> I'd like to suggest that MICE follow OIX-1 with respect to agg and other stats: >> >> "The IXP MUST publish on a publicly available website the total sum of >> all incoming and outgoing traffic in bps from all connected networks >> on the public peering VLAN. The traffic sum MUST include the traffic on customer facing ports only and MUST be made up of 5 min average traffic measurements. A distinction MUST be made between the traffic on the public peering VLAN and any other interconnection service." >> >> Traffic "massiveness" isn't as important as how many ASNs are connected. Traffic is an unpredictable and unreliable indicator of an exchanges size and value. ASN counts are much more granular for potential peers to build a case to join. >> >> >> Best, >> >> -M< >> >> >> >> >> To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1 To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1 To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1 To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1

Jan. 4, 2015