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Re: Four BGP sessions drops with Google/YouTube (AS36040) today

by Frank Bulk

GGC shared this with me: The BGP session and aggregated interfaces seems stable now, however earlier, we've seen all interfaces on the path to 206.108.255.4 flap. We'll re-check it after some time to verify that this is no longer happening. Any log entries on the IX’s switch that give a hint as to why the links are dropping? Frank From: MICE Discuss <MICE-DISCUSS(a)LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET> On Behalf Of Jeremy Lumby Sent: Friday, November 23, 2018 11:31 PM To: MICE-DISCUSS(a)LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET Subject: Re: [MICE-DISCUSS] Four BGP sessions drops with Google/YouTube (AS36040) today In general you can get a little better granular control of your session if you are bilaterally peered since not all IX route servers support communities, and have different security features supported/enabled. Not all implementations of communities are as detailed as you can get bilaterally. There is also one less point of failure when not using routeservers. From: MICE Discuss [mailto:MICE-DISCUSS@LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET] On Behalf Of Darin Steffl Sent: Friday, November 23, 2018 9:59 PM To: MICE-DISCUSS(a)LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET<mailto:MICE-DISCUSS@LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET> Subject: Re: [MICE-DISCUSS] Four BGP sessions drops with Google/YouTube (AS36040) today Ok I know that Google is on the route servers so is there any advantage to establishing a direct peering session with them? Their peering site says the following: Although Google connects to Internet Exchange route servers where present, Google prefers to establish direct BGP sessions for traffic exchange. On Fri, Nov 23, 2018 at 8:59 PM Jeremy Lumby <jlumby(a)mnvoip.com<mailto:jlumby@mnvoip.com>> wrote: MICE only has a cache, and the other IXes have full backbone routes. From: MICE Discuss [mailto:MICE-DISCUSS@LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET<mailto:MICE-DISCUSS@LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET>] On Behalf Of Darin Steffl Sent: Friday, November 23, 2018 8:56 PM To: MICE-DISCUSS(a)LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET<mailto:MICE-DISCUSS@LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET> Subject: Re: [MICE-DISCUSS] Four BGP sessions drops with Google/YouTube (AS36040) today Sorry to go off topic a little but why isn't Google advertising their main AS 15169 on MICE? Their website shows Minneapolis being one of their Edge POPs but they're using their less common AS 36040 here. Anyone know why we're not as cool as the other IX's they're on with 15169? On Fri, Nov 23, 2018 at 8:21 PM Jeremy Lumby <jlumby(a)mnvoip.com<mailto:jlumby@mnvoip.com>> wrote: I have noticed that Google has had me redirected to their cache on The Kansas City Internet Exchange most of the day. 2602:ffaa:0:7:8d5:1b2c:f084:513c => google-mci2 : superx_isp_number: 3 (2602:ffaa::/36) From: MICE Discuss [mailto:MICE-DISCUSS@LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET<mailto:MICE-DISCUSS@LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET>] On Behalf Of Frank Bulk Sent: Friday, November 23, 2018 8:14 PM To: MICE-DISCUSS(a)LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET<mailto:MICE-DISCUSS@LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET> Subject: [MICE-DISCUSS] Four BGP sessions drops with Google/YouTube (AS36040) today FYI, we saw our BGP session drop with AS36040 several times today: * 12:08:46 to 12:08:51 pm * 2:01 to 2:02 pm * ~4:02 to ~4:04 pm * ~7:36 to ~7:38 pm Graphs show some serious stability issues: Error! Filename not specified. Regards, Frank ________________________________ To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1 ________________________________ To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1 -- Darin Steffl Minnesota WiFi www.mnwifi.com<http://www.mnwifi.com/> 507-634-WiFi [http://www.snoitulosten.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/01/facebook-small.jpg]<http://www.facebook.com/minnesotawifi> Like us on Facebook<http://www.facebook.com/minnesotawifi> ________________________________ To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1 ________________________________ To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1 -- Darin Steffl Minnesota WiFi www.mnwifi.com<http://www.mnwifi.com/> 507-634-WiFi [http://www.snoitulosten.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/01/facebook-small.jpg]<http://www.facebook.com/minnesotawifi> Like us on Facebook<http://www.facebook.com/minnesotawifi> ________________________________ To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1 ________________________________ To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1

Nov. 24, 2018

Re: Four BGP sessions drops with Google/YouTube (AS36040) today

by Jeremy Lumby

In general you can get a little better granular control of your session if you are bilaterally peered since not all IX route servers support communities, and have different security features supported/enabled. Not all implementations of communities are as detailed as you can get bilaterally. There is also one less point of failure when not using routeservers. From: MICE Discuss [mailto:MICE-DISCUSS@LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET] On Behalf Of Darin Steffl Sent: Friday, November 23, 2018 9:59 PM To: MICE-DISCUSS(a)LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET Subject: Re: [MICE-DISCUSS] Four BGP sessions drops with Google/YouTube (AS36040) today Ok I know that Google is on the route servers so is there any advantage to establishing a direct peering session with them? Their peering site says the following: Although Google connects to Internet Exchange route servers where present, Google prefers to establish direct BGP sessions for traffic exchange. On Fri, Nov 23, 2018 at 8:59 PM Jeremy Lumby <jlumby(a)mnvoip.com> wrote: MICE only has a cache, and the other IXes have full backbone routes. From: MICE Discuss [mailto:MICE-DISCUSS@LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET] On Behalf Of Darin Steffl Sent: Friday, November 23, 2018 8:56 PM To: MICE-DISCUSS(a)LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET Subject: Re: [MICE-DISCUSS] Four BGP sessions drops with Google/YouTube (AS36040) today Sorry to go off topic a little but why isn't Google advertising their main AS 15169 on MICE? Their website shows Minneapolis being one of their Edge POPs but they're using their less common AS 36040 here. Anyone know why we're not as cool as the other IX's they're on with 15169? On Fri, Nov 23, 2018 at 8:21 PM Jeremy Lumby <jlumby(a)mnvoip.com> wrote: I have noticed that Google has had me redirected to their cache on The Kansas City Internet Exchange most of the day. 2602:ffaa:0:7:8d5:1b2c:f084:513c => google-mci2 : superx_isp_number: 3 (2602:ffaa::/36) From: MICE Discuss [mailto:MICE-DISCUSS@LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET] On Behalf Of Frank Bulk Sent: Friday, November 23, 2018 8:14 PM To: MICE-DISCUSS(a)LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET Subject: [MICE-DISCUSS] Four BGP sessions drops with Google/YouTube (AS36040) today FYI, we saw our BGP session drop with AS36040 several times today: 12:08:46 to 12:08:51 pm 2:01 to 2:02 pm ~4:02 to ~4:04 pm ~7:36 to ~7:38 pm Graphs show some serious stability issues: Error! Filename not specified. Regards, Frank To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1 To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1 -- Darin Steffl Minnesota WiFi www.mnwifi.com 507-634-WiFi Like us on Facebook To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1 To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1 -- Darin Steffl Minnesota WiFi www.mnwifi.com 507-634-WiFi Like us on Facebook To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1

Nov. 24, 2018

Re: Four BGP sessions drops with Google/YouTube (AS36040) today

by Darin Steffl

Ok I know that Google is on the route servers so is there any advantage to establishing a direct peering session with them? Their peering site says the following: Although Google connects to Internet Exchange route servers where present, Google prefers to establish direct BGP sessions for traffic exchange. On Fri, Nov 23, 2018 at 8:59 PM Jeremy Lumby <jlumby(a)mnvoip.com> wrote: > MICE only has a cache, and the other IXes have full backbone routes. > > > > *From:* MICE Discuss [mailto:MICE-DISCUSS@LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET] *On Behalf > Of *Darin Steffl > *Sent:* Friday, November 23, 2018 8:56 PM > *To:* MICE-DISCUSS(a)LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET > *Subject:* Re: [MICE-DISCUSS] Four BGP sessions drops with Google/YouTube > (AS36040) today > > > > Sorry to go off topic a little but why isn't Google advertising their main > AS 15169 on MICE? Their website shows Minneapolis being one of their Edge > POPs but they're using their less common AS 36040 here. > > > > Anyone know why we're not as cool as the other IX's they're on with 15169? > > > > On Fri, Nov 23, 2018 at 8:21 PM Jeremy Lumby <jlumby(a)mnvoip.com> wrote: > > I have noticed that Google has had me redirected to their cache on The > Kansas City Internet Exchange most of the day. > > 2602:ffaa:0:7:8d5:1b2c:f084:513c => google-mci2 : superx_isp_number: 3 > (2602:ffaa::/36) > > > > > > > > *From:* MICE Discuss [mailto:MICE-DISCUSS@LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET] *On Behalf > Of *Frank Bulk > *Sent:* Friday, November 23, 2018 8:14 PM > *To:* MICE-DISCUSS(a)LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET > *Subject:* [MICE-DISCUSS] Four BGP sessions drops with Google/YouTube > (AS36040) today > > > > FYI, we saw our BGP session drop with AS36040 several times today: > > - 12:08:46 to 12:08:51 pm > - 2:01 to 2:02 pm > - ~4:02 to ~4:04 pm > - ~7:36 to ~7:38 pm > > > > Graphs show some serious stability issues: > > > > > > Regards, > > > > Frank > > > ------------------------------ > > To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: > http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1 > > > ------------------------------ > > To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: > http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1 > > > > > -- > > Darin Steffl > > Minnesota WiFi > > www.mnwifi.com > > 507-634-WiFi > > <http://www.facebook.com/minnesotawifi> Like us on Facebook > <http://www.facebook.com/minnesotawifi> > > > ------------------------------ > > To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: > http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1 > > ------------------------------ > > To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: > http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1 > -- Darin Steffl Minnesota WiFi www.mnwifi.com 507-634-WiFi <http://www.facebook.com/minnesotawifi> Like us on Facebook <http://www.facebook.com/minnesotawifi>

Nov. 24, 2018

Re: Four BGP sessions drops with Google/YouTube (AS36040) today

by Jeremy Lumby

MICE only has a cache, and the other IXes have full backbone routes. From: MICE Discuss [mailto:MICE-DISCUSS@LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET] On Behalf Of Darin Steffl Sent: Friday, November 23, 2018 8:56 PM To: MICE-DISCUSS(a)LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET Subject: Re: [MICE-DISCUSS] Four BGP sessions drops with Google/YouTube (AS36040) today Sorry to go off topic a little but why isn't Google advertising their main AS 15169 on MICE? Their website shows Minneapolis being one of their Edge POPs but they're using their less common AS 36040 here. Anyone know why we're not as cool as the other IX's they're on with 15169? On Fri, Nov 23, 2018 at 8:21 PM Jeremy Lumby <jlumby(a)mnvoip.com> wrote: I have noticed that Google has had me redirected to their cache on The Kansas City Internet Exchange most of the day. 2602:ffaa:0:7:8d5:1b2c:f084:513c => google-mci2 : superx_isp_number: 3 (2602:ffaa::/36) From: MICE Discuss [mailto:MICE-DISCUSS@LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET] On Behalf Of Frank Bulk Sent: Friday, November 23, 2018 8:14 PM To: MICE-DISCUSS(a)LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET Subject: [MICE-DISCUSS] Four BGP sessions drops with Google/YouTube (AS36040) today FYI, we saw our BGP session drop with AS36040 several times today: 12:08:46 to 12:08:51 pm 2:01 to 2:02 pm ~4:02 to ~4:04 pm ~7:36 to ~7:38 pm Graphs show some serious stability issues: Regards, Frank To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1 To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1 -- Darin Steffl Minnesota WiFi www.mnwifi.com 507-634-WiFi Like us on Facebook To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1

Nov. 24, 2018

Re: Four BGP sessions drops with Google/YouTube (AS36040) today

by Darin Steffl

Sorry to go off topic a little but why isn't Google advertising their main AS 15169 on MICE? Their website shows Minneapolis being one of their Edge POPs but they're using their less common AS 36040 here. Anyone know why we're not as cool as the other IX's they're on with 15169? On Fri, Nov 23, 2018 at 8:21 PM Jeremy Lumby <jlumby(a)mnvoip.com> wrote: > I have noticed that Google has had me redirected to their cache on The > Kansas City Internet Exchange most of the day. > > 2602:ffaa:0:7:8d5:1b2c:f084:513c => google-mci2 : superx_isp_number: 3 > (2602:ffaa::/36) > > > > > > > > *From:* MICE Discuss [mailto:MICE-DISCUSS@LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET] *On Behalf > Of *Frank Bulk > *Sent:* Friday, November 23, 2018 8:14 PM > *To:* MICE-DISCUSS(a)LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET > *Subject:* [MICE-DISCUSS] Four BGP sessions drops with Google/YouTube > (AS36040) today > > > > FYI, we saw our BGP session drop with AS36040 several times today: > > - 12:08:46 to 12:08:51 pm > - 2:01 to 2:02 pm > - ~4:02 to ~4:04 pm > - ~7:36 to ~7:38 pm > > > > Graphs show some serious stability issues: > > > > > > Regards, > > > > Frank > > > ------------------------------ > > To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: > http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1 > > ------------------------------ > > To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: > http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1 > -- Darin Steffl Minnesota WiFi www.mnwifi.com 507-634-WiFi <http://www.facebook.com/minnesotawifi> Like us on Facebook <http://www.facebook.com/minnesotawifi>

Nov. 24, 2018

Re: Four BGP sessions drops with Google/YouTube (AS36040) today

by Jeremy Lumby

I have noticed that Google has had me redirected to their cache on The Kansas City Internet Exchange most of the day. 2602:ffaa:0:7:8d5:1b2c:f084:513c => google-mci2 : superx_isp_number: 3 (2602:ffaa::/36) From: MICE Discuss [mailto:MICE-DISCUSS@LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET] On Behalf Of Frank Bulk Sent: Friday, November 23, 2018 8:14 PM To: MICE-DISCUSS(a)LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET Subject: [MICE-DISCUSS] Four BGP sessions drops with Google/YouTube (AS36040) today FYI, we saw our BGP session drop with AS36040 several times today: 12:08:46 to 12:08:51 pm 2:01 to 2:02 pm ~4:02 to ~4:04 pm ~7:36 to ~7:38 pm Graphs show some serious stability issues: Regards, Frank To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1

Nov. 24, 2018

Four BGP sessions drops with Google/YouTube (AS36040) today

by Frank Bulk

FYI, we saw our BGP session drop with AS36040 several times today: * 12:08:46 to 12:08:51 pm * 2:01 to 2:02 pm * ~4:02 to ~4:04 pm * ~7:36 to ~7:38 pm Graphs show some serious stability issues: [cid:image001.png@01D48368.C4C26A60] Regards, Frank

Nov. 24, 2018

Re: Please Welcome Facebook to MICE!

by Jeremy Lumby

The ports are programmed, and ready on the main switch. The first LAG is port-channel 24, and the second is port-channel 25 -----Original Message----- From: MICE Discuss [mailto:MICE-DISCUSS@LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET] On Behalf Of Jay Hanke Sent: Tuesday, November 13, 2018 7:55 PM To: MICE-DISCUSS(a)LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET Subject: [MICE-DISCUSS] Please Welcome Facebook to MICE! Name: Facebook ASN: 32934 Ports: 2x2x10G First LAG: Ethernet4/27 Ethernet4/28 Second LAG: Ethernet5/27 Ethernet5/28 IPv4: 206.108.255.116/24 206.108.255.117/24 IPv6: 2001:504:27:0:0:80a6::1/64 2001:504:27:0:0:80a6::2/64 Peering contact: peering(a)fb.com Route Server: NO BFD Support: NO Note: These port assignments contain ports that were previously in use. Welcome aboard! -- Jay Hanke, President South Front Networks jayhanke(a)southfront.io Phone 612-204-0000

Nov. 14, 2018

MICE Congestion

by Jay Hanke

We are seeing very heavy traffic on several ports tonight: Amazon TDS Jaguar WIN -- Jay Hanke, President South Front Networks jayhanke(a)southfront.io Phone 612-204-0000

Nov. 14, 2018

Please Welcome Facebook to MICE!

by Jay Hanke

Name: Facebook ASN: 32934 Ports: 2x2x10G First LAG: Ethernet4/27 Ethernet4/28 Second LAG: Ethernet5/27 Ethernet5/28 IPv4: 206.108.255.116/24 206.108.255.117/24 IPv6: 2001:504:27:0:0:80a6::1/64 2001:504:27:0:0:80a6::2/64 Peering contact: peering(a)fb.com Route Server: NO BFD Support: NO Note: These port assignments contain ports that were previously in use. Welcome aboard! -- Jay Hanke, President South Front Networks jayhanke(a)southfront.io Phone 612-204-0000

Nov. 14, 2018