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Re: FW: Thursday Night Football from Amazon Prime Video - Network Questionnaire

by Steve Savoy

Thanks Jeremy! I'll give it another try. Steve -----Original Message----- From: MICE Discuss <MICE-DISCUSS(a)LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET> On Behalf Of Jeremy Lumby Sent: Tuesday, January 18, 2022 8:49 AM To: MICE-DISCUSS(a)LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET Subject: Re: [MICE-DISCUSS] FW: Thursday Night Football from Amazon Prime Video - Network Questionnaire Steve, Amazon can be notoriously difficult to get to respond, and when they finally do it can often take a couple months. They have recently moved to regional peering addresses, and it is worth sending the request to peering-amer(a)amazon.com if you have not already. Jeremy Lumby Minnesota VoIP 9217 17th Ave S #216 Bloomington, MN 55425 M: 612-355-7740 D: 612-392-6814 F: 952-873-7425 jlumby(a)mnvoip.com From: MICE Discuss [mailto:MICE-DISCUSS@LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET] On Behalf Of Steve Savoy Sent: Tuesday, January 18, 2022 8:01 AM To: MICE-DISCUSS(a)LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET Subject: Re: [MICE-DISCUSS] FW: Thursday Night Football from Amazon Prime Video - Network Questionnaire I’m just jealous that you are able to peer with Amazon. Been trying for 2 years now and nothing but ‘crickets’………… 😉 Steve From: MICE Discuss <MICE-DISCUSS(a)LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET> On Behalf Of Dean Bahls Sent: Tuesday, January 18, 2022 6:28 AM To: MICE-DISCUSS(a)LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET Subject: Re: [MICE-DISCUSS] FW: Thursday Night Football from Amazon Prime Video - Network Questionnaire While I haven’t gotten that specific email from them, I’ve gotten several Telegeography emails since 2012. They are referenced by Light Reading Daily quite a bit. They *seem* to be a legit research firm contracted by multiple companies. The Amazon / TNF partnership is a real deal….and MICE needs to be prepared for a potential uptick in traffic on Thursdays. Dean From: MICE Discuss <MICE-DISCUSS(a)LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET> On Behalf Of AnthonyAnderberg(a)NUVERA.NET Sent: Tuesday, January 18, 2022 1:27 AM To: MICE-DISCUSS(a)LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET Subject: [MICE-DISCUSS] FW: Thursday Night Football from Amazon Prime Video - Network Questionnaire Has anyone else gotten an email like this? On the surface it seems legit, and I always like the opportunity to talk about MICE, but I’m not sure how I feel about sharing such info... Thanks in advance, Anthony On Thu, Dec 16, 2021 at 1:29 PM Nataliya Coll <ncoll(a)telegeography.com> wrote: Hi David and Anthony, I am a telecoms analyst with TeleGeography in Washington, DC. We have been contracted by Amazon Prime Video (APV) to survey ISPs across the country in preparation for Prime Video’s exclusive presentation of NFL Thursday Night Football (TNF) starting with the 2022 NFL season. The attached letter from Amazon Prime Video provides more detail about their network planning initiative. To help avoid congestion on your network during upcoming games, Amazon is asking us to query you so that they may better understand your network point(s) of contact, service coverage area, CDN provider(s), IP Transit provider(s), etc. Are you the correct contact person within your network operations team to respond to these questions? If not, can you please direct me to the right person within your network operations team? If you have any questions, feel free to contact me via email or let me know if you would like to set up a call with me. Thank you so much for your cooperation. Nataliya Coll Research Analyst, Europe & Eurasia TeleGeography, a Division of PriMetrica, Inc. One Thomas Circle, NW, Suite 360 Washington, DC 20005 USA www.telegeography.com +1 (202) 741-0066 ________________________________________ To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1 ________________________________________ To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1 Confidentiality Notice: This correspondence is the property of Winnebago Cooperative Telecom Association and is for the sole use of the intended recipient(s) and may contain confidential and privileged information. Any unauthorized review, use, disclosure or distribution is prohibited. If you are not the intended recipient, please contact the sender by reply email and destroy all copies of the original message. ________________________________________ To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1

Jan. 18, 2022

Re: FW: Thursday Night Football from Amazon Prime Video - Network Questionnaire

by Jeremy Lumby

Steve, Amazon can be notoriously difficult to get to respond, and when they finally do it can often take a couple months. They have recently moved to regional peering addresses, and it is worth sending the request to peering-amer(a)amazon.com if you have not already. Jeremy Lumby Minnesota VoIP 9217 17th Ave S #216 Bloomington, MN 55425 M: 612-355-7740 D: 612-392-6814 F: 952-873-7425 jlumby(a)mnvoip.com From: MICE Discuss [mailto:MICE-DISCUSS@LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET] On Behalf Of Steve Savoy Sent: Tuesday, January 18, 2022 8:01 AM To: MICE-DISCUSS(a)LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET Subject: Re: [MICE-DISCUSS] FW: Thursday Night Football from Amazon Prime Video - Network Questionnaire I’m just jealous that you are able to peer with Amazon. Been trying for 2 years now and nothing but ‘crickets’………… 😉 Steve From: MICE Discuss <MICE-DISCUSS(a)LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET> On Behalf Of Dean Bahls Sent: Tuesday, January 18, 2022 6:28 AM To: MICE-DISCUSS(a)LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET Subject: Re: [MICE-DISCUSS] FW: Thursday Night Football from Amazon Prime Video - Network Questionnaire While I haven’t gotten that specific email from them, I’ve gotten several Telegeography emails since 2012. They are referenced by Light Reading Daily quite a bit. They *seem* to be a legit research firm contracted by multiple companies. The Amazon / TNF partnership is a real deal….and MICE needs to be prepared for a potential uptick in traffic on Thursdays. Dean From: MICE Discuss <MICE-DISCUSS(a)LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET> On Behalf Of AnthonyAnderberg(a)NUVERA.NET Sent: Tuesday, January 18, 2022 1:27 AM To: MICE-DISCUSS(a)LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET Subject: [MICE-DISCUSS] FW: Thursday Night Football from Amazon Prime Video - Network Questionnaire Has anyone else gotten an email like this? On the surface it seems legit, and I always like the opportunity to talk about MICE, but I’m not sure how I feel about sharing such info... Thanks in advance, Anthony On Thu, Dec 16, 2021 at 1:29 PM Nataliya Coll <ncoll(a)telegeography.com> wrote: Hi David and Anthony, I am a telecoms analyst with TeleGeography in Washington, DC. We have been contracted by Amazon Prime Video (APV) to survey ISPs across the country in preparation for Prime Video’s exclusive presentation of NFL Thursday Night Football (TNF) starting with the 2022 NFL season. The attached letter from Amazon Prime Video provides more detail about their network planning initiative. To help avoid congestion on your network during upcoming games, Amazon is asking us to query you so that they may better understand your network point(s) of contact, service coverage area, CDN provider(s), IP Transit provider(s), etc. Are you the correct contact person within your network operations team to respond to these questions? If not, can you please direct me to the right person within your network operations team? If you have any questions, feel free to contact me via email or let me know if you would like to set up a call with me. Thank you so much for your cooperation. Nataliya Coll Research Analyst, Europe & Eurasia TeleGeography, a Division of PriMetrica, Inc. One Thomas Circle, NW, Suite 360 Washington, DC 20005 USA www.telegeography.com +1 (202) 741-0066 ________________________________________ To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1 ________________________________________ To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1 Confidentiality Notice: This correspondence is the property of Winnebago Cooperative Telecom Association and is for the sole use of the intended recipient(s) and may contain confidential and privileged information. Any unauthorized review, use, disclosure or distribution is prohibited. If you are not the intended recipient, please contact the sender by reply email and destroy all copies of the original message. ________________________________________ To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1

Jan. 18, 2022

Re: FW: Thursday Night Football from Amazon Prime Video - Network Questionnaire

by Ben Wiechman

I shot over what was provided through the survey/questions. If anyone has additional or more detailed information I'd be interested in it as well. Ben Wiechman Director of IP Strategy and Engineering 320.247.3224 | ben.wiechman(a)arvig.com Arvig | 224 East Main Street | Melrose, MN 56352 | arvig.com On Tue, Jan 18, 2022 at 8:17 AM Michael Hare < 000000097dab80c5-dmarc-request(a)lists.iphouse.net> wrote: > Anyone willing to share which CDNs either publicly or privately? AS3128 > peers with 16509 bilateral over MICE and we haven't seen the below. We are > eyeballs but are R&E. I'd like to make sure my ducks are in a row. > > -Michael > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: MICE Discuss <MICE-DISCUSS(a)LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET> On Behalf Of Ben > > Wiechman > > Sent: Tuesday, January 18, 2022 8:05 AM > > To: MICE-DISCUSS(a)LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET > > Subject: Re: [MICE-DISCUSS] FW: Thursday Night Football from Amazon > > Prime Video - Network Questionnaire > > > > They didn't indicate that this was confidential, nor do we have an NDA, > so... > > > > This is a snippet of the information. > > > > CDN Partners > > 32 Prime Video uses multiple CDN partners to deliver our live content. We > > deploy a predetermined configuration giving weights to > > 33 each of the CDNs based on their reported capacity, but the actual live > > streams delivery is determined by performance. We work > > 34 with our ISP partners to validate the available capacity so that we > do not > > create undue stress on the ISP network during peak > > 35 events. The use of multiple CDNs with flexible weights provides us the > > ability to dynamically shift traffic in case of performance > > 36 degradation, or outages within a single CDN. > > 37 The table below summarizes the CDN partners we plan to use (subject to > > adjustment), and the function and protocol supported > > 38 by each CDN. The actual traffic load on each CDN partner is based on > their > > performance and available capacity. > > > > > > > > > > > > Ben Wiechman > > > > Director of IP Strategy and Engineering > > > > > > 320.247.3224 | ben.wiechman(a)arvig.com > > <mailto:ben.wiechman@arvig.com> > > > > Arvig | 224 East Main Street | Melrose, MN 56352 | arvig.com > > <http://arvig.com> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Tue, Jan 18, 2022 at 8:00 AM Steve Savoy <stevesavoy(a)wctatel.com > > <mailto:stevesavoy@wctatel.com> > wrote: > > > > > > I’m just jealous that you are able to peer with Amazon. > > > > > > > > Been trying for 2 years now and nothing but ‘crickets’………… 😉 > > > > > > > > Steve > > > > > > > > From: MICE Discuss <MICE-DISCUSS(a)LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET > > <mailto:MICE-DISCUSS@LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET> > On Behalf Of Dean Bahls > > Sent: Tuesday, January 18, 2022 6:28 AM > > To: MICE-DISCUSS(a)LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET <mailto:MICE- > > DISCUSS(a)LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET> > > Subject: Re: [MICE-DISCUSS] FW: Thursday Night Football from > > Amazon Prime Video - Network Questionnaire > > > > > > > > While I haven’t gotten that specific email from them, I’ve gotten > > several Telegeography emails since 2012. They are referenced by Light > > Reading Daily quite a bit. They *seem* to be a legit research firm > contracted > > by multiple companies. > > > > > > > > The Amazon / TNF partnership is a real deal….and MICE needs to be > > prepared for a potential uptick in traffic on Thursdays. > > > > > > > > Dean > > > > > > > > > > > > From: MICE Discuss <MICE-DISCUSS(a)LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET > > <mailto:MICE-DISCUSS@LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET> > On Behalf Of > > AnthonyAnderberg(a)NUVERA.NET > > <mailto:AnthonyAnderberg@NUVERA.NET> > > Sent: Tuesday, January 18, 2022 1:27 AM > > To: MICE-DISCUSS(a)LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET <mailto:MICE- > > DISCUSS(a)LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET> > > Subject: [MICE-DISCUSS] FW: Thursday Night Football from Amazon > > Prime Video - Network Questionnaire > > > > > > > > Has anyone else gotten an email like this? > > > > > > > > On the surface it seems legit, and I always like the opportunity > to talk > > about MICE, but I’m not sure how I feel about sharing such info... > > > > > > > > Thanks in advance, > > > > Anthony > > > > > > > > > > > > On Thu, Dec 16, 2021 at 1:29 PM Nataliya Coll > > <ncoll(a)telegeography.com <mailto:ncoll@telegeography.com> > wrote: > > > > Hi David and Anthony, > > > > > > > > I am a telecoms analyst with TeleGeography in > > Washington, DC. We have been contracted by Amazon Prime Video (APV) to > > survey ISPs across the country in preparation for Prime Video’s exclusive > > presentation of NFL Thursday Night Football (TNF) starting with the 2022 > NFL > > season. > > > > The attached letter from Amazon Prime Video > > provides more detail about their network planning initiative. > > > > > > To help avoid congestion on your network during > > upcoming games, Amazon is asking us to query you so that they may better > > understand your network point(s) of contact, service coverage area, CDN > > provider(s), IP Transit provider(s), etc. > > > > > > > > Are you the correct contact person within your > > network operations team to respond to these questions? If not, can you > > please direct me to the right person within your network operations team? > > > > > > > > If you have any questions, feel free to contact me > via > > email or let me know if you would like to set up a call with me. > > > > > > Thank you so much for your cooperation. > > > > > > > > > > > > Nataliya Coll > > Research Analyst, Europe & Eurasia > > TeleGeography, a Division of PriMetrica, Inc. > > One Thomas Circle, NW, Suite 360 > > Washington, DC 20005 USA > > www.telegeography.com > > <http://www.telegeography.com> > > +1 (202) 741-0066 > > > > > > > > ________________________________ > > > > To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following > link: > > http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1 > > > > > > > > ________________________________ > > > > To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following > link: > > http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1 > > > > Confidentiality Notice: This correspondence is the property of > > Winnebago Cooperative Telecom Association and is for the sole use of the > > intended recipient(s) and may contain confidential and privileged > > information. Any unauthorized review, use, disclosure or distribution is > > prohibited. If you are not the intended recipient, please contact the > sender > > by reply email and destroy all copies of the original message. > > > > > > ________________________________ > > > > To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following > link: > > http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1 > > > > > > ________________________________ > > > > To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: > > http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1 > >

Jan. 18, 2022

Re: FW: Thursday Night Football from Amazon Prime Video - Network Questionnaire

by Michael Hare

Anyone willing to share which CDNs either publicly or privately? AS3128 peers with 16509 bilateral over MICE and we haven't seen the below. We are eyeballs but are R&E. I'd like to make sure my ducks are in a row. -Michael > -----Original Message----- > From: MICE Discuss <MICE-DISCUSS(a)LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET> On Behalf Of Ben > Wiechman > Sent: Tuesday, January 18, 2022 8:05 AM > To: MICE-DISCUSS(a)LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET > Subject: Re: [MICE-DISCUSS] FW: Thursday Night Football from Amazon > Prime Video - Network Questionnaire > > They didn't indicate that this was confidential, nor do we have an NDA, so... > > This is a snippet of the information. > > CDN Partners > 32 Prime Video uses multiple CDN partners to deliver our live content. We > deploy a predetermined configuration giving weights to > 33 each of the CDNs based on their reported capacity, but the actual live > streams delivery is determined by performance. We work > 34 with our ISP partners to validate the available capacity so that we do not > create undue stress on the ISP network during peak > 35 events. The use of multiple CDNs with flexible weights provides us the > ability to dynamically shift traffic in case of performance > 36 degradation, or outages within a single CDN. > 37 The table below summarizes the CDN partners we plan to use (subject to > adjustment), and the function and protocol supported > 38 by each CDN. The actual traffic load on each CDN partner is based on their > performance and available capacity. > > > > > > Ben Wiechman > > Director of IP Strategy and Engineering > > > 320.247.3224 | ben.wiechman(a)arvig.com > <mailto:ben.wiechman@arvig.com> > > Arvig | 224 East Main Street | Melrose, MN 56352 | arvig.com > <http://arvig.com> > > > > > > > On Tue, Jan 18, 2022 at 8:00 AM Steve Savoy <stevesavoy(a)wctatel.com > <mailto:stevesavoy@wctatel.com> > wrote: > > > I’m just jealous that you are able to peer with Amazon. > > > > Been trying for 2 years now and nothing but ‘crickets’………… 😉 > > > > Steve > > > > From: MICE Discuss <MICE-DISCUSS(a)LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET > <mailto:MICE-DISCUSS@LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET> > On Behalf Of Dean Bahls > Sent: Tuesday, January 18, 2022 6:28 AM > To: MICE-DISCUSS(a)LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET <mailto:MICE- > DISCUSS(a)LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET> > Subject: Re: [MICE-DISCUSS] FW: Thursday Night Football from > Amazon Prime Video - Network Questionnaire > > > > While I haven’t gotten that specific email from them, I’ve gotten > several Telegeography emails since 2012. They are referenced by Light > Reading Daily quite a bit. They *seem* to be a legit research firm contracted > by multiple companies. > > > > The Amazon / TNF partnership is a real deal….and MICE needs to be > prepared for a potential uptick in traffic on Thursdays. > > > > Dean > > > > > > From: MICE Discuss <MICE-DISCUSS(a)LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET > <mailto:MICE-DISCUSS@LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET> > On Behalf Of > AnthonyAnderberg(a)NUVERA.NET > <mailto:AnthonyAnderberg@NUVERA.NET> > Sent: Tuesday, January 18, 2022 1:27 AM > To: MICE-DISCUSS(a)LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET <mailto:MICE- > DISCUSS(a)LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET> > Subject: [MICE-DISCUSS] FW: Thursday Night Football from Amazon > Prime Video - Network Questionnaire > > > > Has anyone else gotten an email like this? > > > > On the surface it seems legit, and I always like the opportunity to talk > about MICE, but I’m not sure how I feel about sharing such info... > > > > Thanks in advance, > > Anthony > > > > > > On Thu, Dec 16, 2021 at 1:29 PM Nataliya Coll > <ncoll(a)telegeography.com <mailto:ncoll@telegeography.com> > wrote: > > Hi David and Anthony, > > > > I am a telecoms analyst with TeleGeography in > Washington, DC. We have been contracted by Amazon Prime Video (APV) to > survey ISPs across the country in preparation for Prime Video’s exclusive > presentation of NFL Thursday Night Football (TNF) starting with the 2022 NFL > season. > > The attached letter from Amazon Prime Video > provides more detail about their network planning initiative. > > > To help avoid congestion on your network during > upcoming games, Amazon is asking us to query you so that they may better > understand your network point(s) of contact, service coverage area, CDN > provider(s), IP Transit provider(s), etc. > > > > Are you the correct contact person within your > network operations team to respond to these questions? If not, can you > please direct me to the right person within your network operations team? > > > > If you have any questions, feel free to contact me via > email or let me know if you would like to set up a call with me. > > > Thank you so much for your cooperation. > > > > > > Nataliya Coll > Research Analyst, Europe & Eurasia > TeleGeography, a Division of PriMetrica, Inc. > One Thomas Circle, NW, Suite 360 > Washington, DC 20005 USA > www.telegeography.com > <http://www.telegeography.com> > +1 (202) 741-0066 > > > > ________________________________ > > To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: > http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1 > > > > ________________________________ > > To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: > http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1 > > Confidentiality Notice: This correspondence is the property of > Winnebago Cooperative Telecom Association and is for the sole use of the > intended recipient(s) and may contain confidential and privileged > information. Any unauthorized review, use, disclosure or distribution is > prohibited. If you are not the intended recipient, please contact the sender > by reply email and destroy all copies of the original message. > > > ________________________________ > > To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: > http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1 > > > ________________________________ > > To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: > http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1

Jan. 18, 2022

Re: FW: Thursday Night Football from Amazon Prime Video - Network Questionnaire

by Ben Wiechman

They didn't indicate that this was confidential, nor do we have an NDA, so... This is a snippet of the information. CDN Partners 32 Prime Video uses multiple CDN partners to deliver our live content. We deploy a predetermined configuration giving weights to 33 each of the CDNs based on their reported capacity, but the actual live streams delivery is determined by performance. We work 34 with our ISP partners to validate the available capacity so that we do not create undue stress on the ISP network during peak 35 events. The use of multiple CDNs with flexible weights provides us the ability to dynamically shift traffic in case of performance 36 degradation, or outages within a single CDN. 37 The table below summarizes the CDN partners we plan to use (subject to adjustment), and the function and protocol supported 38 by each CDN. The actual traffic load on each CDN partner is based on their performance and available capacity. [image: image.png] Ben Wiechman Director of IP Strategy and Engineering 320.247.3224 | ben.wiechman(a)arvig.com Arvig | 224 East Main Street | Melrose, MN 56352 | arvig.com On Tue, Jan 18, 2022 at 8:00 AM Steve Savoy <stevesavoy(a)wctatel.com> wrote: > I’m just jealous that you are able to peer with Amazon. > > > > Been trying for 2 years now and nothing but ‘crickets’………… 😉 > > > > Steve > > > > *From:* MICE Discuss <MICE-DISCUSS(a)LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET> * On Behalf Of *Dean > Bahls > *Sent:* Tuesday, January 18, 2022 6:28 AM > *To:* MICE-DISCUSS(a)LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET > *Subject:* Re: [MICE-DISCUSS] FW: Thursday Night Football from Amazon > Prime Video - Network Questionnaire > > > > While I haven’t gotten that specific email from them, I’ve gotten several > Telegeography emails since 2012. They are referenced by Light Reading > Daily quite a bit. They **seem** to be a legit research firm contracted > by multiple companies. > > > > The Amazon / TNF partnership is a real deal….and MICE needs to be prepared > for a potential uptick in traffic on Thursdays. > > > > Dean > > > > > > *From:* MICE Discuss <MICE-DISCUSS(a)LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET> *On Behalf Of * > AnthonyAnderberg(a)NUVERA.NET > *Sent:* Tuesday, January 18, 2022 1:27 AM > *To:* MICE-DISCUSS(a)LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET > *Subject:* [MICE-DISCUSS] FW: Thursday Night Football from Amazon Prime > Video - Network Questionnaire > > > > Has anyone else gotten an email like this? > > > > On the surface it seems legit, and I always like the opportunity to talk > about MICE, but I’m not sure how I feel about sharing such info... > > > > Thanks in advance, > > Anthony > > > > > > On Thu, Dec 16, 2021 at 1:29 PM Nataliya Coll <ncoll(a)telegeography.com> > wrote: > > Hi David and Anthony, > > > > I am a telecoms analyst with TeleGeography in Washington, DC. We have been > contracted by Amazon Prime Video (APV) to survey ISPs across the country in > preparation for Prime Video’s exclusive presentation of NFL Thursday Night > Football (TNF) starting with the 2022 NFL season. > > The attached letter from Amazon Prime Video provides more detail about > their network planning initiative. > > > To help avoid congestion on your network during upcoming games, Amazon is > asking us to query you so that they may better understand your network > point(s) of contact, service coverage area, CDN provider(s), IP Transit > provider(s), etc. > > > > Are you the correct contact person within your network operations team to > respond to these questions? If not, can you please direct me to the right > person within your network operations team? > > > > If you have any questions, feel free to contact me via email or let me > know if you would like to set up a call with me. > > > Thank you so much for your cooperation. > > > > > > *Nataliya Coll* > Research Analyst, Europe & Eurasia > TeleGeography, a Division of PriMetrica, Inc. > One Thomas Circle, NW, Suite 360 > Washington, DC 20005 USA > www.telegeography.com > +1 (202) 741-0066 > > > ------------------------------ > > To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: > http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1 > > > ------------------------------ > > To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: > http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1 > > Confidentiality Notice: This correspondence is the property of Winnebago > Cooperative Telecom Association and is for the sole use of the intended > recipient(s) and may contain confidential and privileged information. Any > unauthorized review, use, disclosure or distribution is prohibited. If you > are not the intended recipient, please contact the sender by reply email > and destroy all copies of the original message. > > ------------------------------ > > To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: > http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1 >

Jan. 18, 2022

Re: FW: Thursday Night Football from Amazon Prime Video - Network Questionnaire

by Ben Wiechman

Agree with Jay. We received the notice as well. It appeared to be legitimate, so we responded. Ben Wiechman Director of IP Strategy and Engineering 320.247.3224 | ben.wiechman(a)arvig.com Arvig | 224 East Main Street | Melrose, MN 56352 | arvig.com On Tue, Jan 18, 2022 at 7:58 AM Jay Hanke <jayhanke(a)southfront.io> wrote: > I talked to the company deploying the solution a couple of days ago. > > This would be a good time to get any transport upgrades going. Some of the > traffic numbers are large and 100g transport gear is running 6 months lead > time. > > On Tue, Jan 18, 2022, 6:28 AM Dean Bahls < > dean.bahls(a)cooperative-networks.com> wrote: > >> While I haven’t gotten that specific email from them, I’ve gotten several >> Telegeography emails since 2012. They are referenced by Light Reading >> Daily quite a bit. They **seem** to be a legit research firm contracted >> by multiple companies. >> >> >> >> The Amazon / TNF partnership is a real deal….and MICE needs to be >> prepared for a potential uptick in traffic on Thursdays. >> >> >> >> Dean >> >> >> >> >> >> *From:* MICE Discuss <MICE-DISCUSS(a)LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET> *On Behalf Of * >> AnthonyAnderberg(a)NUVERA.NET >> *Sent:* Tuesday, January 18, 2022 1:27 AM >> *To:* MICE-DISCUSS(a)LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET >> *Subject:* [MICE-DISCUSS] FW: Thursday Night Football from Amazon Prime >> Video - Network Questionnaire >> >> >> >> Has anyone else gotten an email like this? >> >> >> >> On the surface it seems legit, and I always like the opportunity to talk >> about MICE, but I’m not sure how I feel about sharing such info... >> >> >> >> Thanks in advance, >> >> Anthony >> >> >> >> >> >> On Thu, Dec 16, 2021 at 1:29 PM Nataliya Coll <ncoll(a)telegeography.com> >> wrote: >> >> Hi David and Anthony, >> >> >> >> I am a telecoms analyst with TeleGeography in Washington, DC. We have >> been contracted by Amazon Prime Video (APV) to survey ISPs across the >> country in preparation for Prime Video’s exclusive presentation of NFL >> Thursday Night Football (TNF) starting with the 2022 NFL season. >> >> The attached letter from Amazon Prime Video provides more detail about >> their network planning initiative. >> >> >> To help avoid congestion on your network during upcoming games, Amazon is >> asking us to query you so that they may better understand your network >> point(s) of contact, service coverage area, CDN provider(s), IP Transit >> provider(s), etc. >> >> >> >> Are you the correct contact person within your network operations team to >> respond to these questions? If not, can you please direct me to the right >> person within your network operations team? >> >> >> >> If you have any questions, feel free to contact me via email or let me >> know if you would like to set up a call with me. >> >> >> Thank you so much for your cooperation. >> >> >> >> >> >> *Nataliya Coll* >> Research Analyst, Europe & Eurasia >> TeleGeography, a Division of PriMetrica, Inc. >> One Thomas Circle, NW, Suite 360 >> Washington, DC 20005 USA >> www.telegeography.com >> +1 (202) 741-0066 >> >> >> ------------------------------ >> >> To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: >> http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1 >> >> ------------------------------ >> >> To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: >> http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1 >> > > ------------------------------ > > To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: > http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1 >

Jan. 18, 2022

Re: FW: Thursday Night Football from Amazon Prime Video - Network Questionnaire

by Steve Savoy

I’m just jealous that you are able to peer with Amazon. Been trying for 2 years now and nothing but ‘crickets’………… 😉 Steve From: MICE Discuss <MICE-DISCUSS(a)LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET> On Behalf Of Dean Bahls Sent: Tuesday, January 18, 2022 6:28 AM To: MICE-DISCUSS(a)LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET Subject: Re: [MICE-DISCUSS] FW: Thursday Night Football from Amazon Prime Video - Network Questionnaire While I haven’t gotten that specific email from them, I’ve gotten several Telegeography emails since 2012. They are referenced by Light Reading Daily quite a bit. They *seem* to be a legit research firm contracted by multiple companies. The Amazon / TNF partnership is a real deal….and MICE needs to be prepared for a potential uptick in traffic on Thursdays. Dean From: MICE Discuss <MICE-DISCUSS(a)LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET<mailto:MICE-DISCUSS@LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET>> On Behalf Of AnthonyAnderberg(a)NUVERA.NET<mailto:AnthonyAnderberg@NUVERA.NET> Sent: Tuesday, January 18, 2022 1:27 AM To: MICE-DISCUSS(a)LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET<mailto:MICE-DISCUSS@LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET> Subject: [MICE-DISCUSS] FW: Thursday Night Football from Amazon Prime Video - Network Questionnaire Has anyone else gotten an email like this? On the surface it seems legit, and I always like the opportunity to talk about MICE, but I’m not sure how I feel about sharing such info... Thanks in advance, Anthony On Thu, Dec 16, 2021 at 1:29 PM Nataliya Coll <ncoll(a)telegeography.com<mailto:ncoll@telegeography.com>> wrote: Hi David and Anthony, I am a telecoms analyst with TeleGeography in Washington, DC. We have been contracted by Amazon Prime Video (APV) to survey ISPs across the country in preparation for Prime Video’s exclusive presentation of NFL Thursday Night Football (TNF) starting with the 2022 NFL season. The attached letter from Amazon Prime Video provides more detail about their network planning initiative. To help avoid congestion on your network during upcoming games, Amazon is asking us to query you so that they may better understand your network point(s) of contact, service coverage area, CDN provider(s), IP Transit provider(s), etc. Are you the correct contact person within your network operations team to respond to these questions? If not, can you please direct me to the right person within your network operations team? If you have any questions, feel free to contact me via email or let me know if you would like to set up a call with me. Thank you so much for your cooperation. Nataliya Coll Research Analyst, Europe & Eurasia TeleGeography, a Division of PriMetrica, Inc. One Thomas Circle, NW, Suite 360 Washington, DC 20005 USA www.telegeography.com<http://www.telegeography.com> +1 (202) 741-0066 ________________________________ To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1 ________________________________ To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1 Confidentiality Notice: This correspondence is the property of Winnebago Cooperative Telecom Association and is for the sole use of the intended recipient(s) and may contain confidential and privileged information. Any unauthorized review, use, disclosure or distribution is prohibited. If you are not the intended recipient, please contact the sender by reply email and destroy all copies of the original message.

Jan. 18, 2022

Re: FW: Thursday Night Football from Amazon Prime Video - Network Questionnaire

by Jay Hanke

I talked to the company deploying the solution a couple of days ago. This would be a good time to get any transport upgrades going. Some of the traffic numbers are large and 100g transport gear is running 6 months lead time. On Tue, Jan 18, 2022, 6:28 AM Dean Bahls < dean.bahls(a)cooperative-networks.com> wrote: > While I haven’t gotten that specific email from them, I’ve gotten several > Telegeography emails since 2012. They are referenced by Light Reading > Daily quite a bit. They **seem** to be a legit research firm contracted > by multiple companies. > > > > The Amazon / TNF partnership is a real deal….and MICE needs to be prepared > for a potential uptick in traffic on Thursdays. > > > > Dean > > > > > > *From:* MICE Discuss <MICE-DISCUSS(a)LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET> *On Behalf Of * > AnthonyAnderberg(a)NUVERA.NET > *Sent:* Tuesday, January 18, 2022 1:27 AM > *To:* MICE-DISCUSS(a)LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET > *Subject:* [MICE-DISCUSS] FW: Thursday Night Football from Amazon Prime > Video - Network Questionnaire > > > > Has anyone else gotten an email like this? > > > > On the surface it seems legit, and I always like the opportunity to talk > about MICE, but I’m not sure how I feel about sharing such info... > > > > Thanks in advance, > > Anthony > > > > > > On Thu, Dec 16, 2021 at 1:29 PM Nataliya Coll <ncoll(a)telegeography.com> > wrote: > > Hi David and Anthony, > > > > I am a telecoms analyst with TeleGeography in Washington, DC. We have been > contracted by Amazon Prime Video (APV) to survey ISPs across the country in > preparation for Prime Video’s exclusive presentation of NFL Thursday Night > Football (TNF) starting with the 2022 NFL season. > > The attached letter from Amazon Prime Video provides more detail about > their network planning initiative. > > > To help avoid congestion on your network during upcoming games, Amazon is > asking us to query you so that they may better understand your network > point(s) of contact, service coverage area, CDN provider(s), IP Transit > provider(s), etc. > > > > Are you the correct contact person within your network operations team to > respond to these questions? If not, can you please direct me to the right > person within your network operations team? > > > > If you have any questions, feel free to contact me via email or let me > know if you would like to set up a call with me. > > > Thank you so much for your cooperation. > > > > > > *Nataliya Coll* > Research Analyst, Europe & Eurasia > TeleGeography, a Division of PriMetrica, Inc. > One Thomas Circle, NW, Suite 360 > Washington, DC 20005 USA > www.telegeography.com > +1 (202) 741-0066 > > > ------------------------------ > > To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: > http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1 > > ------------------------------ > > To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: > http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1 >

Jan. 18, 2022

Re: FW: Thursday Night Football from Amazon Prime Video - Network Questionnaire

by Dean Bahls

While I haven’t gotten that specific email from them, I’ve gotten several Telegeography emails since 2012. They are referenced by Light Reading Daily quite a bit. They *seem* to be a legit research firm contracted by multiple companies. The Amazon / TNF partnership is a real deal….and MICE needs to be prepared for a potential uptick in traffic on Thursdays. Dean From: MICE Discuss <MICE-DISCUSS(a)LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET> On Behalf Of AnthonyAnderberg(a)NUVERA.NET Sent: Tuesday, January 18, 2022 1:27 AM To: MICE-DISCUSS(a)LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET Subject: [MICE-DISCUSS] FW: Thursday Night Football from Amazon Prime Video - Network Questionnaire Has anyone else gotten an email like this? On the surface it seems legit, and I always like the opportunity to talk about MICE, but I’m not sure how I feel about sharing such info... Thanks in advance, Anthony On Thu, Dec 16, 2021 at 1:29 PM Nataliya Coll <ncoll(a)telegeography.com <mailto:ncoll@telegeography.com> > wrote: Hi David and Anthony, I am a telecoms analyst with TeleGeography in Washington, DC. We have been contracted by Amazon Prime Video (APV) to survey ISPs across the country in preparation for Prime Video’s exclusive presentation of NFL Thursday Night Football (TNF) starting with the 2022 NFL season. The attached letter from Amazon Prime Video provides more detail about their network planning initiative. To help avoid congestion on your network during upcoming games, Amazon is asking us to query you so that they may better understand your network point(s) of contact, service coverage area, CDN provider(s), IP Transit provider(s), etc. Are you the correct contact person within your network operations team to respond to these questions? If not, can you please direct me to the right person within your network operations team? If you have any questions, feel free to contact me via email or let me know if you would like to set up a call with me. Thank you so much for your cooperation. Nataliya Coll Research Analyst, Europe & Eurasia TeleGeography, a Division of PriMetrica, Inc. One Thomas Circle, NW, Suite 360 Washington, DC 20005 USA www.telegeography.com <http://www.telegeography.com> +1 (202) 741-0066 _____ To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS <http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1> &A=1

Jan. 18, 2022

FW: Thursday Night Football from Amazon Prime Video - Network Questionnaire

by AnthonyAnderberg＠nuvera.net

Has anyone else gotten an email like this? On the surface it seems legit, and I always like the opportunity to talk about MICE, but I’m not sure how I feel about sharing such info... Thanks in advance, Anthony On Thu, Dec 16, 2021 at 1:29 PM Nataliya Coll <ncoll(a)telegeography.com<mailto:ncoll@telegeography.com>> wrote: Hi David and Anthony, I am a telecoms analyst with TeleGeography in Washington, DC. We have been contracted by Amazon Prime Video (APV) to survey ISPs across the country in preparation for Prime Video’s exclusive presentation of NFL Thursday Night Football (TNF) starting with the 2022 NFL season. The attached letter from Amazon Prime Video provides more detail about their network planning initiative. To help avoid congestion on your network during upcoming games, Amazon is asking us to query you so that they may better understand your network point(s) of contact, service coverage area, CDN provider(s), IP Transit provider(s), etc. Are you the correct contact person within your network operations team to respond to these questions? If not, can you please direct me to the right person within your network operations team? If you have any questions, feel free to contact me via email or let me know if you would like to set up a call with me. Thank you so much for your cooperation. Nataliya Coll Research Analyst, Europe & Eurasia TeleGeography, a Division of PriMetrica, Inc. One Thomas Circle, NW, Suite 360 Washington, DC 20005 USA www.telegeography.com<http://www.telegeography.com> +1 (202) 741-0066

Jan. 18, 2022

Re: Please welcome WHCC to MICE!

by Doug McIntyre

On Wed, Jan 12, 2022 at 10:51:00AM -0600, Jeremy Lumby wrote: >Name: WHCC >Switch: MICE Main >Port: Ethernet 5/1 >ASN: 11852 >IPv4: 206.108.255.185/24 >IPv6: 2001:504:27:0:0:2E4C::1/64 >Peering Contact: noc(a)whcc.com >Route Servers: Yes >BFD: Yes Added into the route servers Welcome!

Jan. 12, 2022

Please welcome WHCC to MICE!

by Jeremy Lumby

Name: WHCC Switch: MICE Main Port: Ethernet 5/1 ASN: 11852 IPv4: 206.108.255.185/24 IPv6: 2001:504:27:0:0:2E4C::1/64 Peering Contact: noc(a)whcc.com Route Servers: Yes BFD: Yes Welcome Aboard! Jeremy Lumby Minnesota VoIP 9217 17th Ave S #216 Bloomington, MN 55425 Main: 612-355-7740 Direct: 612-392-6814 Fax: 952-873-7425 jlumby(a)mnvoip.com

Jan. 12, 2022

Please welcome Cedar Falls Utilities to MICE!

by Jeremy Lumby

Name: Cedar Falls Utilities Switch: MICE Main Port: Ethernet 6/16/1 ASN: 13855 IPv4: This is a port upgrade, all IP info remains the same. The new connection will be 100G IPv6: Peering Contact: nocc(a)cfu.net Route Servers: Yes BFD: Yes Welcome Aboard Again! Jeremy Lumby Minnesota VoIP 9217 17th Ave S #216 Bloomington, MN 55425 Main: 612-355-7740 Direct: 612-392-6814 Fax: 952-873-7425 jlumby(a)mnvoip.com

Dec. 30, 2021

Please welcome T-Mobile USA, Inc to MICE!

by Jeremy Lumby

Name: T-Mobile USA, Inc Switch: MICE Main Port: Ethernet 6/15/1 ASN: 21928 IPv4: This is a port addition to an existing LAG, all IP info remains the same. The new connection will be 3x100G IPv6: Peering Contact: peering(a)t-mobile.com Route Servers: Yes BFD: No Welcome Aboard Again! Jeremy Lumby Minnesota VoIP 9217 17th Ave S #216 Bloomington, MN 55425 Main: 612-355-7740 Direct: 612-392-6814 Fax: 952-873-7425 jlumby(a)mnvoip.com

Dec. 27, 2021

Re: Please welcome Minnesota Teen Challenge to MICE!

by Doug McIntyre

On Wed, Dec 22, 2021 at 08:25:00PM -0600, Jeremy Lumby wrote: >Name: Minnesota Teen Challenge >Switch: MICE Main >Port: Ethernet 4/4 >ASN: 400316 >IPv4: 206.108.255.184/24 >IPv6: 2001:504:27:0:6:1BBC::1/64 >Peering Contact: peering(a)mntc.org >Route Servers: Yes >BFD: No > Added into the route servers.

Dec. 23, 2021

Please welcome Minnesota Teen Challenge to MICE!

by Jeremy Lumby

Name: Minnesota Teen Challenge Switch: MICE Main Port: Ethernet 4/4 ASN: 400316 IPv4: 206.108.255.184/24 IPv6: 2001:504:27:0:6:1BBC::1/64 Peering Contact: peering(a)mntc.org Route Servers: Yes BFD: No Welcome Aboard! Jeremy Lumby Minnesota VoIP 9217 17th Ave S #216 Bloomington, MN 55425 Main: 612-355-7740 Direct: 612-392-6814 Fax: 952-873-7425 jlumby(a)mnvoip.com

Dec. 23, 2021

Re: Internet Blip today?

by Jay Hanke

If you have a mac address we can reach out to the peer and get it cleaned up. On Wed, Dec 15, 2021 at 10:33 AM Jeff Wilde <jeff.wilde(a)parkregion.com> wrote: > Anyone notice the Internet hiccup today? Also, I am getting access > violations for igmp on my mice circuit is anyone else seeing this? It’s > from an rfc1917 address: > > > > RP/0/RP0/CPU0:Dec 15 10:17:24.596 CST: ipv4_acl_mgr[156]: > %ACL-IPV4_ACL-6-IPACCESSLOGRP : access-list IX (50) deny igmp 172.29.22.254 > -> 224.0.0.1, 10 packets > > > > [image: A picture containing icon Description automatically generated] > > Jeff Wilde · Network Engineer · Park Region > > Office 218.826.6161 · Direct 218.826.8330 · Fax 218.826.6298 > > > > > > ------------------------------ > > To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: > http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1 > -- Jay Hanke, President South Front Networks jayhanke(a)southfront.io Phone 612-204-0000

Dec. 15, 2021

Re: Internet Blip today?

by Jesse Reed

Jeff: Concerning the Internet blip, yes as AWS services went out briefly in the WEST-DC. As far as your IGMP msgs; not sure Jesse From: MICE Discuss <MICE-DISCUSS(a)LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET> On Behalf Of Jeff Wilde Sent: Wednesday, December 15, 2021 10:33 AM To: MICE-DISCUSS(a)LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET Subject: [MICE-DISCUSS] Internet Blip today? EXTERNAL: This email originated from a sender outside AcenTek. Do not click links or open attachments unless you recognize the sender and know the content is safe. Anyone notice the Internet hiccup today? Also, I am getting access violations for igmp on my mice circuit is anyone else seeing this? It's from an rfc1917 address: RP/0/RP0/CPU0:Dec 15 10:17:24.596 CST: ipv4_acl_mgr[156]: %ACL-IPV4_ACL-6-IPACCESSLOGRP : access-list IX (50) deny igmp 172.29.22.254 -> 224.0.0.1, 10 packets [A picture containing icon Description automatically generated] Jeff Wilde * Network Engineer * Park Region Office 218.826.6161 * Direct 218.826.8330 * Fax 218.826.6298 ________________________________ To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1

Dec. 15, 2021

Re: Internet Blip today?

by Darin Steffl

Aws having trouble again. On Wed, Dec 15, 2021, 10:33 AM Jeff Wilde <jeff.wilde(a)parkregion.com> wrote: > Anyone notice the Internet hiccup today? Also, I am getting access > violations for igmp on my mice circuit is anyone else seeing this? It’s > from an rfc1917 address: > > > > RP/0/RP0/CPU0:Dec 15 10:17:24.596 CST: ipv4_acl_mgr[156]: > %ACL-IPV4_ACL-6-IPACCESSLOGRP : access-list IX (50) deny igmp 172.29.22.254 > -> 224.0.0.1, 10 packets > > > > [image: A picture containing icon Description automatically generated] > > Jeff Wilde · Network Engineer · Park Region > > Office 218.826.6161 · Direct 218.826.8330 · Fax 218.826.6298 > > > > > > ------------------------------ > > To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: > http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1 >

Dec. 15, 2021

Re: Internet Blip today?

by Ryan Malek

Amazon AWS is having a bad morning. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Ryan Malek - Router12 Networks LLC Internet, Phone, and Hosted Services Ph. 641.420.7180 On 12/15/2021 10:32 AM, Jeff Wilde wrote: > > Anyone notice the Internet hiccup today? Also, I am getting access > violations for igmp on my mice circuit is anyone else seeing this? > It’s from an rfc1917 address: > > RP/0/RP0/CPU0:Dec 15 10:17:24.596 CST: ipv4_acl_mgr[156]: > %ACL-IPV4_ACL-6-IPACCESSLOGRP : access-list IX (50) deny igmp > 172.29.22.254 -> 224.0.0.1, 10 packets > > A picture containing icon Description automatically generated > > > > Jeff Wilde ·Network Engineer ·Park Region > > Office 218.826.6161 ·Direct 218.826.8330 ·Fax 218.826.6298 > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: > http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1 > <http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1> >

Dec. 15, 2021

Re: Internet Blip today?

by Travis Fincham

I Know AWS is having issues today with their US-WEST1 and US-WEST2 Regions Thanks, Travis From: MICE Discuss <MICE-DISCUSS(a)LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET> on behalf of Jeff Wilde <jeff.wilde(a)PARKREGION.COM> Reply-To: MICE Discuss <MICE-DISCUSS(a)LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET> Date: Wednesday, December 15, 2021 at 10:33 AM To: "MICE-DISCUSS(a)LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET" <MICE-DISCUSS(a)LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET> Subject: [EXTERNAL][MICE-DISCUSS] Internet Blip today? [EXTERNAL EMAIL]: This email originated from outside of Key Cooperative. Please verify that that you recognize the sender and know is the content is safe. Anyone notice the Internet hiccup today? Also, I am getting access violations for igmp on my mice circuit is anyone else seeing this? It’s from an rfc1917 address: RP/0/RP0/CPU0:Dec 15 10:17:24.596 CST: ipv4_acl_mgr[156]: %ACL-IPV4_ACL-6-IPACCESSLOGRP : access-list IX (50) deny igmp 172.29.22.254 -> 224.0.0.1, 10 packets [A picture containing icon Description automatically generated] Jeff Wilde • Network Engineer • Park Region Office 218.826.6161 • Direct 218.826.8330 • Fax 218.826.6298 ________________________________ To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1 ________________________________ NOTICE: This message (including attachments) is covered by the Electronic Communications Privacy Act, 18 U.S.C. § 2510-2521, is CONFIDENTIAL, and is intended only for the individual to whom it is addressed. If you are not the named addressee or an employee or agent responsible for delivering this message to the named addressee, you are hereby notified that you have received this message in error and that any review, retention, dissemination, distribution, copying or use of this communication is strictly prohibited. Please reply to the sender that you received this message in error and then delete it.

Dec. 15, 2021

Internet Blip today?

by Jeff Wilde

Anyone notice the Internet hiccup today? Also, I am getting access violations for igmp on my mice circuit is anyone else seeing this? It's from an rfc1917 address: RP/0/RP0/CPU0:Dec 15 10:17:24.596 CST: ipv4_acl_mgr[156]: %ACL-IPV4_ACL-6-IPACCESSLOGRP : access-list IX (50) deny igmp 172.29.22.254 -> 224.0.0.1, 10 packets [A picture containing icon Description automatically generated] Jeff Wilde * Network Engineer * Park Region Office 218.826.6161 * Direct 218.826.8330 * Fax 218.826.6298

Dec. 15, 2021

FYI, inbound Google [15169] issues via MICE for AS3128 that started ~15:47 CST

by Michael Hare

Hi everyone- FYI in case others are impacted. We had many reports inside AS3128 of problems with Google services [AS15169] beginning around 15:47 CST. I won't bore folks with all details but in short, we observed what looked like a hashing issue. For example, our ip w.x.y.z could ping 8.8.8.8, but not w.x.y.z+1. I was able to reproduce easily myself with 8.8.4.4. Our primary outbound path to 8.8.4.0/24 was MICE. Swinging our outbound path didn't fix anything, but I was able to work around our issues at ~17:38CST by sending 0:15169 to the MICE RR. The relief was basically immediate, so the problem appears to have been inbound from Google via MICE. Hard to say where the issue is/was. I am on a remote switch, but no other issues with other MICE ASN were reported inside AS3128, FWIW. I would be interested to hear if anyone else had/has a problem or if anyone has a suggestion on how to make positive contact with Google on this as we are not direct GGC or direct PNI users. For example, is peering(a)google.com my best/only bet? I know some have suggested IRC in the past, I do not run in those circles but I guess I will learn to if that's my only real option. Thanks- -Michael

Dec. 10, 2021

Re: Several peers down since 3:16 am

by Frank Bulk

All six sessions came back up around 1:05 pm. Frank -----Original Message----- From: MICE Discuss <MICE-DISCUSS(a)LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET> On Behalf Of Justin Huffman Sent: Thursday, December 9, 2021 11:16 AM To: MICE-DISCUSS(a)LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET Subject: Re: [MICE-DISCUSS] Several peers down since 3:16 am Both of our yahoo peers are down since 3:16 AM as well. 206.108.255.58 10310 CONN 7h57m59s 0 0 0 23 206.108.255.59 10310 CONN 7h56m46s 0 0 0 23 Justin Huffman Long Lines Broadband 712-271-5902 (W) jhuffman(a)longlines.biz -----Original Message----- From: MICE Discuss <MICE-DISCUSS(a)LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET> On Behalf Of Doug McIntyre Sent: Thursday, December 9, 2021 11:15 AM To: MICE-DISCUSS(a)LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET Subject: Re: [MICE-DISCUSS] Several peers down since 3:16 am WARNING!! This message originated from an External Source. Please use proper judgment and caution when opening attachments, clicking links, or responding to this email. For whatever reason, my google peering never went through, so, I couldn't tell you. I still get the maintenance notices. I suppose I should bug them again. On Thu, Dec 09, 2021 at 05:11:38PM +0000, Frank Bulk wrote: >Thanks for sharing what you're seeing. Is your Google peer down? > >My Google peer did not restore after their maintenance ... and it was scheduled to start 9:55 am, while we saw it go down at 3:16 am. > >Frank > >-----Original Message----- >From: MICE Discuss <MICE-DISCUSS(a)LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET> On Behalf Of Doug >McIntyre >Sent: Thursday, December 9, 2021 11:00 AM >To: MICE-DISCUSS(a)LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET >Subject: Re: [MICE-DISCUSS] Several peers down since 3:16 am > >On Thu, Dec 09, 2021 at 04:58:05PM +0000, Frank Bulk wrote: >>We're seeing our BGP sessions to Yahoo and Google down since 3:16 am: >>206.108.255.58 (AS10310-1.micemn.net) (AS 10310 YAHOO-1, US) >>206.108.255.59 (AS10310-2.micemn.net) (AS 10310 YAHOO-1, US) >>2001:504:27::2846:0:1 (AS10310-1.micemn.net) (AS 10310 YAHOO-1, US) >>2001:504:27::2846:0:2 (AS10310-2.micemn.net) (AS 10310 YAHOO-1, US) >> >>206.108.255.167 (AS15169-2.micemn.net) (AS 15169 GOOGLE, US) >>2001:504:27::3b41:0:2 (AS15169-2.micemn.net) (AS 15169 GOOGLE, US) >> >>Anyone else seeing this? > > >Only one of those Yahoo peers (.59) is down for me. > >Google had emergancy maintenance this morning. >Their notice said they had finished up recently though. >

Dec. 9, 2021

Re: Several peers down since 3:16 am

by Justin Huffman

Both of our yahoo peers are down since 3:16 AM as well. 206.108.255.58 10310 CONN 7h57m59s 0 0 0 23 206.108.255.59 10310 CONN 7h56m46s 0 0 0 23 Justin Huffman Long Lines Broadband 712-271-5902 (W) jhuffman(a)longlines.biz -----Original Message----- From: MICE Discuss <MICE-DISCUSS(a)LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET> On Behalf Of Doug McIntyre Sent: Thursday, December 9, 2021 11:15 AM To: MICE-DISCUSS(a)LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET Subject: Re: [MICE-DISCUSS] Several peers down since 3:16 am WARNING!! This message originated from an External Source. Please use proper judgment and caution when opening attachments, clicking links, or responding to this email. For whatever reason, my google peering never went through, so, I couldn't tell you. I still get the maintenance notices. I suppose I should bug them again. On Thu, Dec 09, 2021 at 05:11:38PM +0000, Frank Bulk wrote: >Thanks for sharing what you're seeing. Is your Google peer down? > >My Google peer did not restore after their maintenance ... and it was scheduled to start 9:55 am, while we saw it go down at 3:16 am. > >Frank > >-----Original Message----- >From: MICE Discuss <MICE-DISCUSS(a)LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET> On Behalf Of Doug >McIntyre >Sent: Thursday, December 9, 2021 11:00 AM >To: MICE-DISCUSS(a)LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET >Subject: Re: [MICE-DISCUSS] Several peers down since 3:16 am > >On Thu, Dec 09, 2021 at 04:58:05PM +0000, Frank Bulk wrote: >>We're seeing our BGP sessions to Yahoo and Google down since 3:16 am: >>206.108.255.58 (AS10310-1.micemn.net) (AS 10310 YAHOO-1, US) >>206.108.255.59 (AS10310-2.micemn.net) (AS 10310 YAHOO-1, US) >>2001:504:27::2846:0:1 (AS10310-1.micemn.net) (AS 10310 YAHOO-1, US) >>2001:504:27::2846:0:2 (AS10310-2.micemn.net) (AS 10310 YAHOO-1, US) >> >>206.108.255.167 (AS15169-2.micemn.net) (AS 15169 GOOGLE, US) >>2001:504:27::3b41:0:2 (AS15169-2.micemn.net) (AS 15169 GOOGLE, US) >> >>Anyone else seeing this? > > >Only one of those Yahoo peers (.59) is down for me. > >Google had emergancy maintenance this morning. >Their notice said they had finished up recently though. >

Dec. 9, 2021