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Re: FW: Thursday Night Football from Amazon Prime Video - Network Questionnaire

by Frank Bulk

I don’t know if it’s exclusive to the NCTC or not – you could reach out to Qwilt and just ask them what options they have for you. Frank From: MICE Discuss <MICE-DISCUSS(a)LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET> On Behalf Of Ryan Malek Sent: Wednesday, February 16, 2022 11:28 AM To: MICE-DISCUSS(a)LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET Subject: Re: [MICE-DISCUSS] FW: Thursday Night Football from Amazon Prime Video - Network Questionnaire Is this offering going to be available to non NCTC members at a cost? (Is this maybe part of Qwilts default offering? ) TLDR: Is the Qwilt platform worth it outside of being an NCTC Member? :) ________________________________ Ryan Malek - Router12 Networks LLC Internet, Phone, and Hosted Services Ph. 641.420.7180 On 2/16/2022 11:08 AM, Frank Bulk wrote: If you’re an NCTC member there’s an opportunity to avoid transit costs and IX bandwidth concerns by serving the traffic from your own network using an “open” CDN: https://www.qwilt.com/nctc-and-qwilt-launch-joint-initiative-to-upgrade-nct… There’s no cost to NCTC members (just your own rack space, power, cooling, ports, and time). Frank From: MICE Discuss <MICE-DISCUSS(a)LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET><mailto:MICE-DISCUSS@LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET> On Behalf Of Justin Krejci Sent: Tuesday, January 18, 2022 10:56 AM To: MICE-DISCUSS(a)LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET<mailto:MICE-DISCUSS@LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET> Subject: Re: [MICE-DISCUSS] FW: Thursday Night Football from Amazon Prime Video - Network Questionnaire Definitely legit and definitely worth pursuing additional connectivity with Amazon and CDNs that Amazon will use to distribute their NFL streaming content. We have peering active with Amazon at four IX locations (including MICE) and are trying to get some PNIs with them now too. https://aws.amazon.com/peering/locations/ This page lists Cologix Minneapolis as a site where interconnection can happen. If you have a lot of eyeballs on your network, you should definitely pursue adding/augmenting connectivity to Amazon. ________________________________ From: MICE Discuss <MICE-DISCUSS(a)LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET<mailto:MICE-DISCUSS@LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET>> on behalf of Steve Savoy <stevesavoy(a)WCTATEL.COM<mailto:stevesavoy@WCTATEL.COM>> Sent: Tuesday, January 18, 2022 8:55 AM To: MICE-DISCUSS(a)LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET<mailto:MICE-DISCUSS@LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET> Subject: Re: [MICE-DISCUSS] FW: Thursday Night Football from Amazon Prime Video - Network Questionnaire Thanks Jeremy! I'll give it another try. Steve -----Original Message----- From: MICE Discuss <MICE-DISCUSS(a)LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET<mailto:MICE-DISCUSS@LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET>> On Behalf Of Jeremy Lumby Sent: Tuesday, January 18, 2022 8:49 AM To: MICE-DISCUSS(a)LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET<mailto:MICE-DISCUSS@LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET> Subject: Re: [MICE-DISCUSS] FW: Thursday Night Football from Amazon Prime Video - Network Questionnaire Steve, Amazon can be notoriously difficult to get to respond, and when they finally do it can often take a couple months. They have recently moved to regional peering addresses, and it is worth sending the request to peering-amer(a)amazon.com<mailto:peering-amer@amazon.com> if you have not already. Jeremy Lumby Minnesota VoIP 9217 17th Ave S #216 Bloomington, MN 55425 M: 612-355-7740 D: 612-392-6814 F: 952-873-7425 jlumby(a)mnvoip.com<mailto:jlumby@mnvoip.com> From: MICE Discuss [mailto:MICE-DISCUSS@LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET] On Behalf Of Steve Savoy Sent: Tuesday, January 18, 2022 8:01 AM To: MICE-DISCUSS(a)LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET<mailto:MICE-DISCUSS@LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET> Subject: Re: [MICE-DISCUSS] FW: Thursday Night Football from Amazon Prime Video - Network Questionnaire I’m just jealous that you are able to peer with Amazon. Been trying for 2 years now and nothing but ‘crickets’………… 😉 Steve From: MICE Discuss <MICE-DISCUSS(a)LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET<mailto:MICE-DISCUSS@LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET>> On Behalf Of Dean Bahls Sent: Tuesday, January 18, 2022 6:28 AM To: MICE-DISCUSS(a)LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET<mailto:MICE-DISCUSS@LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET> Subject: Re: [MICE-DISCUSS] FW: Thursday Night Football from Amazon Prime Video - Network Questionnaire While I haven’t gotten that specific email from them, I’ve gotten several Telegeography emails since 2012. They are referenced by Light Reading Daily quite a bit. They *seem* to be a legit research firm contracted by multiple companies. The Amazon / TNF partnership is a real deal….and MICE needs to be prepared for a potential uptick in traffic on Thursdays. Dean From: MICE Discuss <MICE-DISCUSS(a)LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET<mailto:MICE-DISCUSS@LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET>> On Behalf Of AnthonyAnderberg(a)NUVERA.NET<mailto:AnthonyAnderberg@NUVERA.NET> Sent: Tuesday, January 18, 2022 1:27 AM To: MICE-DISCUSS(a)LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET<mailto:MICE-DISCUSS@LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET> Subject: [MICE-DISCUSS] FW: Thursday Night Football from Amazon Prime Video - Network Questionnaire Has anyone else gotten an email like this? On the surface it seems legit, and I always like the opportunity to talk about MICE, but I’m not sure how I feel about sharing such info... Thanks in advance, Anthony On Thu, Dec 16, 2021 at 1:29 PM Nataliya Coll <ncoll(a)telegeography.com<mailto:ncoll@telegeography.com>> wrote: Hi David and Anthony, I am a telecoms analyst with TeleGeography in Washington, DC. We have been contracted by Amazon Prime Video (APV) to survey ISPs across the country in preparation for Prime Video’s exclusive presentation of NFL Thursday Night Football (TNF) starting with the 2022 NFL season. The attached letter from Amazon Prime Video provides more detail about their network planning initiative. To help avoid congestion on your network during upcoming games, Amazon is asking us to query you so that they may better understand your network point(s) of contact, service coverage area, CDN provider(s), IP Transit provider(s), etc. Are you the correct contact person within your network operations team to respond to these questions? If not, can you please direct me to the right person within your network operations team? If you have any questions, feel free to contact me via email or let me know if you would like to set up a call with me. Thank you so much for your cooperation. Nataliya Coll Research Analyst, Europe & Eurasia TeleGeography, a Division of PriMetrica, Inc. One Thomas Circle, NW, Suite 360 Washington, DC 20005 USA www.telegeography.com<http://www.telegeography.com> +1 (202) 741-0066 ________________________________________ To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1 ________________________________________ To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1 Confidentiality Notice: This correspondence is the property of Winnebago Cooperative Telecom Association and is for the sole use of the intended recipient(s) and may contain confidential and privileged information. Any unauthorized review, use, disclosure or distribution is prohibited. If you are not the intended recipient, please contact the sender by reply email and destroy all copies of the original message. ________________________________________ To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1 ________________________________ To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1 ________________________________ To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1 ________________________________ To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1

Feb. 16, 2022

Re: FW: Thursday Night Football from Amazon Prime Video - Network Questionnaire

by Ryan Malek

Is this offering going to be available to non NCTC members at a cost? (Is this maybe part of Qwilts default offering? ) TLDR: Is the Qwilt platform worth it outside of being an NCTC Member? :) ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Ryan Malek - Router12 Networks LLC Internet, Phone, and Hosted Services Ph. 641.420.7180 On 2/16/2022 11:08 AM, Frank Bulk wrote: > > If you’re an NCTC member there’s an opportunity to avoid transit costs > and IX bandwidth concerns by serving the traffic from your own network > using an “open” CDN: > https://www.qwilt.com/nctc-and-qwilt-launch-joint-initiative-to-upgrade-nct… > > There’s no cost to NCTC members (just your own rack space, power, > cooling, ports, and time). > > Frank > > *From:* MICE Discuss <MICE-DISCUSS(a)LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET> *On Behalf Of > *Justin Krejci > *Sent:* Tuesday, January 18, 2022 10:56 AM > *To:* MICE-DISCUSS(a)LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET > *Subject:* Re: [MICE-DISCUSS] FW: Thursday Night Football from Amazon > Prime Video - Network Questionnaire > > Definitely legit and definitely worth pursuing additional connectivity > with Amazon and CDNs that Amazon will use to distribute their NFL > streaming content. > > We have peering active with Amazon at four IX locations (including > MICE) and are trying to get some PNIs with them now too. > https://aws.amazon.com/peering/locations/ This page lists Cologix > Minneapolis as a site where interconnection can happen. If you have a > lot of eyeballs on your network, you should definitely pursue > adding/augmenting connectivity to Amazon. > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > *From:*MICE Discuss <MICE-DISCUSS(a)LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET> on behalf of > Steve Savoy <stevesavoy(a)WCTATEL.COM> > *Sent:* Tuesday, January 18, 2022 8:55 AM > *To:* MICE-DISCUSS(a)LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET > *Subject:* Re: [MICE-DISCUSS] FW: Thursday Night Football from Amazon > Prime Video - Network Questionnaire > > Thanks Jeremy! > > I'll give it another try. > > Steve > > -----Original Message----- > From: MICE Discuss <MICE-DISCUSS(a)LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET> On Behalf Of > Jeremy Lumby > Sent: Tuesday, January 18, 2022 8:49 AM > To: MICE-DISCUSS(a)LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET > Subject: Re: [MICE-DISCUSS] FW: Thursday Night Football from Amazon > Prime Video - Network Questionnaire > > Steve, > > Amazon can be notoriously difficult to get to respond, and > when they finally do it can often take a couple months. They have > recently moved to regional peering addresses, and it is worth sending > the request to peering-amer(a)amazon.com if you have not already. > > > Jeremy Lumby > Minnesota VoIP > 9217 17th Ave S #216 > Bloomington, MN 55425 > M: 612-355-7740 > D: 612-392-6814 > F: 952-873-7425 > jlumby(a)mnvoip.com > > > > From: MICE Discuss [mailto:MICE-DISCUSS@LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET > <mailto:MICE-DISCUSS@LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET>] On Behalf Of Steve Savoy > Sent: Tuesday, January 18, 2022 8:01 AM > To: MICE-DISCUSS(a)LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET > Subject: Re: [MICE-DISCUSS] FW: Thursday Night Football from Amazon > Prime Video - Network Questionnaire > > I’m just jealous that you are able to peer with Amazon. > > Been trying for 2 years now and nothing but ‘crickets’………… 😉 > > Steve > > From: MICE Discuss <MICE-DISCUSS(a)LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET> On Behalf Of Dean > Bahls > Sent: Tuesday, January 18, 2022 6:28 AM > To: MICE-DISCUSS(a)LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET > Subject: Re: [MICE-DISCUSS] FW: Thursday Night Football from Amazon > Prime Video - Network Questionnaire > > While I haven’t gotten that specific email from them, I’ve gotten > several Telegeography emails since 2012. They are referenced by Light > Reading Daily quite a bit. They *seem* to be a legit research firm > contracted by multiple companies. > > The Amazon / TNF partnership is a real deal….and MICE needs to be > prepared for a potential uptick in traffic on Thursdays. > > Dean > > > From: MICE Discuss <MICE-DISCUSS(a)LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET> On Behalf Of > AnthonyAnderberg(a)NUVERA.NET > Sent: Tuesday, January 18, 2022 1:27 AM > To: MICE-DISCUSS(a)LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET > Subject: [MICE-DISCUSS] FW: Thursday Night Football from Amazon Prime > Video - Network Questionnaire > > Has anyone else gotten an email like this? > > On the surface it seems legit, and I always like the opportunity to > talk about MICE, but I’m not sure how I feel about sharing such info... > > Thanks in advance, > Anthony > > > On Thu, Dec 16, 2021 at 1:29 PM Nataliya Coll > <ncoll(a)telegeography.com> wrote: > Hi David and Anthony, > > I am a telecoms analyst with TeleGeography in Washington, DC. We have > been contracted by Amazon Prime Video (APV) to survey ISPs across the > country in preparation for Prime Video’s exclusive presentation of NFL > Thursday Night Football (TNF) starting with the 2022 NFL season. > The attached letter from Amazon Prime Video provides more detail about > their network planning initiative. > > To help avoid congestion on your network during upcoming games, Amazon > is asking us to query you so that they may better understand your > network point(s) of contact, service coverage area, CDN provider(s), > IP Transit provider(s), etc. > > Are you the correct contact person within your network operations team > to respond to these questions? If not, can you please direct me to the > right person within your network operations team? > > If you have any questions, feel free to contact me via email or let me > know if you would like to set up a call with me. > > Thank you so much for your cooperation. > > > Nataliya Coll > Research Analyst, Europe & Eurasia > TeleGeography, a Division of PriMetrica, Inc. > One Thomas Circle, NW, Suite 360 > Washington, DC 20005 USA > www.telegeography.com <http://www.telegeography.com> > +1 (202) 741-0066 > > ________________________________________ > To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: > http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1 > <http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1> > > ________________________________________ > To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: > http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1 > <http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1> > Confidentiality Notice: This correspondence is the property of > Winnebago Cooperative Telecom Association and is for the sole use of > the intended recipient(s) and may contain confidential and privileged > information. Any unauthorized review, use, disclosure or distribution > is prohibited. If you are not the intended recipient, please contact > the sender by reply email and destroy all copies of the original message. > > ________________________________________ > To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: > http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1 > <http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1> > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: > http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1 > <http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1> > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: > http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1 > <http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1> >

Feb. 16, 2022

Re: FW: Thursday Night Football from Amazon Prime Video - Network Questionnaire

by Justin Huffman

I echo what Frank said. We are going with Qwilt as well. Justin Long Lines Broadband From: MICE Discuss <MICE-DISCUSS(a)LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET> On Behalf Of Frank Bulk Sent: Wednesday, February 16, 2022 11:09 AM To: MICE-DISCUSS(a)LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET Subject: Re: [MICE-DISCUSS] FW: Thursday Night Football from Amazon Prime Video - Network Questionnaire WARNING!! This message originated from an External Source. Please use proper judgment and caution when opening attachments, clicking links, or responding to this email. If you’re an NCTC member there’s an opportunity to avoid transit costs and IX bandwidth concerns by serving the traffic from your own network using an “open” CDN: https://www.qwilt.com/nctc-and-qwilt-launch-joint-initiative-to-upgrade-nct… There’s no cost to NCTC members (just your own rack space, power, cooling, ports, and time). Frank From: MICE Discuss <MICE-DISCUSS(a)LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET<mailto:MICE-DISCUSS@LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET>> On Behalf Of Justin Krejci Sent: Tuesday, January 18, 2022 10:56 AM To: MICE-DISCUSS(a)LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET<mailto:MICE-DISCUSS@LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET> Subject: Re: [MICE-DISCUSS] FW: Thursday Night Football from Amazon Prime Video - Network Questionnaire Definitely legit and definitely worth pursuing additional connectivity with Amazon and CDNs that Amazon will use to distribute their NFL streaming content. We have peering active with Amazon at four IX locations (including MICE) and are trying to get some PNIs with them now too. https://aws.amazon.com/peering/locations/ This page lists Cologix Minneapolis as a site where interconnection can happen. If you have a lot of eyeballs on your network, you should definitely pursue adding/augmenting connectivity to Amazon. ________________________________ From: MICE Discuss <MICE-DISCUSS(a)LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET<mailto:MICE-DISCUSS@LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET>> on behalf of Steve Savoy <stevesavoy(a)WCTATEL.COM<mailto:stevesavoy@WCTATEL.COM>> Sent: Tuesday, January 18, 2022 8:55 AM To: MICE-DISCUSS(a)LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET<mailto:MICE-DISCUSS@LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET> Subject: Re: [MICE-DISCUSS] FW: Thursday Night Football from Amazon Prime Video - Network Questionnaire Thanks Jeremy! I'll give it another try. Steve -----Original Message----- From: MICE Discuss <MICE-DISCUSS(a)LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET<mailto:MICE-DISCUSS@LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET>> On Behalf Of Jeremy Lumby Sent: Tuesday, January 18, 2022 8:49 AM To: MICE-DISCUSS(a)LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET<mailto:MICE-DISCUSS@LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET> Subject: Re: [MICE-DISCUSS] FW: Thursday Night Football from Amazon Prime Video - Network Questionnaire Steve, Amazon can be notoriously difficult to get to respond, and when they finally do it can often take a couple months. They have recently moved to regional peering addresses, and it is worth sending the request to peering-amer(a)amazon.com<mailto:peering-amer@amazon.com> if you have not already. Jeremy Lumby Minnesota VoIP 9217 17th Ave S #216 Bloomington, MN 55425 M: 612-355-7740 D: 612-392-6814 F: 952-873-7425 jlumby(a)mnvoip.com<mailto:jlumby@mnvoip.com> From: MICE Discuss [mailto:MICE-DISCUSS@LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET] On Behalf Of Steve Savoy Sent: Tuesday, January 18, 2022 8:01 AM To: MICE-DISCUSS(a)LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET<mailto:MICE-DISCUSS@LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET> Subject: Re: [MICE-DISCUSS] FW: Thursday Night Football from Amazon Prime Video - Network Questionnaire I’m just jealous that you are able to peer with Amazon. Been trying for 2 years now and nothing but ‘crickets’………… 😉 Steve From: MICE Discuss <MICE-DISCUSS(a)LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET<mailto:MICE-DISCUSS@LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET>> On Behalf Of Dean Bahls Sent: Tuesday, January 18, 2022 6:28 AM To: MICE-DISCUSS(a)LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET<mailto:MICE-DISCUSS@LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET> Subject: Re: [MICE-DISCUSS] FW: Thursday Night Football from Amazon Prime Video - Network Questionnaire While I haven’t gotten that specific email from them, I’ve gotten several Telegeography emails since 2012. They are referenced by Light Reading Daily quite a bit. They *seem* to be a legit research firm contracted by multiple companies. The Amazon / TNF partnership is a real deal….and MICE needs to be prepared for a potential uptick in traffic on Thursdays. Dean From: MICE Discuss <MICE-DISCUSS(a)LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET<mailto:MICE-DISCUSS@LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET>> On Behalf Of AnthonyAnderberg(a)NUVERA.NET<mailto:AnthonyAnderberg@NUVERA.NET> Sent: Tuesday, January 18, 2022 1:27 AM To: MICE-DISCUSS(a)LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET<mailto:MICE-DISCUSS@LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET> Subject: [MICE-DISCUSS] FW: Thursday Night Football from Amazon Prime Video - Network Questionnaire Has anyone else gotten an email like this? On the surface it seems legit, and I always like the opportunity to talk about MICE, but I’m not sure how I feel about sharing such info... Thanks in advance, Anthony On Thu, Dec 16, 2021 at 1:29 PM Nataliya Coll <ncoll(a)telegeography.com<mailto:ncoll@telegeography.com>> wrote: Hi David and Anthony, I am a telecoms analyst with TeleGeography in Washington, DC. We have been contracted by Amazon Prime Video (APV) to survey ISPs across the country in preparation for Prime Video’s exclusive presentation of NFL Thursday Night Football (TNF) starting with the 2022 NFL season. The attached letter from Amazon Prime Video provides more detail about their network planning initiative. To help avoid congestion on your network during upcoming games, Amazon is asking us to query you so that they may better understand your network point(s) of contact, service coverage area, CDN provider(s), IP Transit provider(s), etc. Are you the correct contact person within your network operations team to respond to these questions? If not, can you please direct me to the right person within your network operations team? If you have any questions, feel free to contact me via email or let me know if you would like to set up a call with me. Thank you so much for your cooperation. Nataliya Coll Research Analyst, Europe & Eurasia TeleGeography, a Division of PriMetrica, Inc. One Thomas Circle, NW, Suite 360 Washington, DC 20005 USA www.telegeography.com<http://www.telegeography.com> +1 (202) 741-0066 ________________________________________ To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1 ________________________________________ To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1 Confidentiality Notice: This correspondence is the property of Winnebago Cooperative Telecom Association and is for the sole use of the intended recipient(s) and may contain confidential and privileged information. Any unauthorized review, use, disclosure or distribution is prohibited. If you are not the intended recipient, please contact the sender by reply email and destroy all copies of the original message. ________________________________________ To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1 ________________________________ To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1 ________________________________ To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1

Feb. 16, 2022

Re: FW: Thursday Night Football from Amazon Prime Video - Network Questionnaire

by Frank Bulk

If you’re an NCTC member there’s an opportunity to avoid transit costs and IX bandwidth concerns by serving the traffic from your own network using an “open” CDN: https://www.qwilt.com/nctc-and-qwilt-launch-joint-initiative-to-upgrade-nct… There’s no cost to NCTC members (just your own rack space, power, cooling, ports, and time). Frank From: MICE Discuss <MICE-DISCUSS(a)LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET> On Behalf Of Justin Krejci Sent: Tuesday, January 18, 2022 10:56 AM To: MICE-DISCUSS(a)LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET Subject: Re: [MICE-DISCUSS] FW: Thursday Night Football from Amazon Prime Video - Network Questionnaire Definitely legit and definitely worth pursuing additional connectivity with Amazon and CDNs that Amazon will use to distribute their NFL streaming content. We have peering active with Amazon at four IX locations (including MICE) and are trying to get some PNIs with them now too. https://aws.amazon.com/peering/locations/ This page lists Cologix Minneapolis as a site where interconnection can happen. If you have a lot of eyeballs on your network, you should definitely pursue adding/augmenting connectivity to Amazon. ________________________________ From: MICE Discuss <MICE-DISCUSS(a)LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET<mailto:MICE-DISCUSS@LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET>> on behalf of Steve Savoy <stevesavoy(a)WCTATEL.COM<mailto:stevesavoy@WCTATEL.COM>> Sent: Tuesday, January 18, 2022 8:55 AM To: MICE-DISCUSS(a)LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET<mailto:MICE-DISCUSS@LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET> Subject: Re: [MICE-DISCUSS] FW: Thursday Night Football from Amazon Prime Video - Network Questionnaire Thanks Jeremy! I'll give it another try. Steve -----Original Message----- From: MICE Discuss <MICE-DISCUSS(a)LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET<mailto:MICE-DISCUSS@LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET>> On Behalf Of Jeremy Lumby Sent: Tuesday, January 18, 2022 8:49 AM To: MICE-DISCUSS(a)LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET<mailto:MICE-DISCUSS@LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET> Subject: Re: [MICE-DISCUSS] FW: Thursday Night Football from Amazon Prime Video - Network Questionnaire Steve, Amazon can be notoriously difficult to get to respond, and when they finally do it can often take a couple months. They have recently moved to regional peering addresses, and it is worth sending the request to peering-amer(a)amazon.com<mailto:peering-amer@amazon.com> if you have not already. Jeremy Lumby Minnesota VoIP 9217 17th Ave S #216 Bloomington, MN 55425 M: 612-355-7740 D: 612-392-6814 F: 952-873-7425 jlumby(a)mnvoip.com<mailto:jlumby@mnvoip.com> From: MICE Discuss [mailto:MICE-DISCUSS@LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET] On Behalf Of Steve Savoy Sent: Tuesday, January 18, 2022 8:01 AM To: MICE-DISCUSS(a)LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET<mailto:MICE-DISCUSS@LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET> Subject: Re: [MICE-DISCUSS] FW: Thursday Night Football from Amazon Prime Video - Network Questionnaire I’m just jealous that you are able to peer with Amazon. Been trying for 2 years now and nothing but ‘crickets’………… 😉 Steve From: MICE Discuss <MICE-DISCUSS(a)LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET<mailto:MICE-DISCUSS@LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET>> On Behalf Of Dean Bahls Sent: Tuesday, January 18, 2022 6:28 AM To: MICE-DISCUSS(a)LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET<mailto:MICE-DISCUSS@LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET> Subject: Re: [MICE-DISCUSS] FW: Thursday Night Football from Amazon Prime Video - Network Questionnaire While I haven’t gotten that specific email from them, I’ve gotten several Telegeography emails since 2012. They are referenced by Light Reading Daily quite a bit. They *seem* to be a legit research firm contracted by multiple companies. The Amazon / TNF partnership is a real deal….and MICE needs to be prepared for a potential uptick in traffic on Thursdays. Dean From: MICE Discuss <MICE-DISCUSS(a)LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET<mailto:MICE-DISCUSS@LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET>> On Behalf Of AnthonyAnderberg(a)NUVERA.NET<mailto:AnthonyAnderberg@NUVERA.NET> Sent: Tuesday, January 18, 2022 1:27 AM To: MICE-DISCUSS(a)LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET<mailto:MICE-DISCUSS@LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET> Subject: [MICE-DISCUSS] FW: Thursday Night Football from Amazon Prime Video - Network Questionnaire Has anyone else gotten an email like this? On the surface it seems legit, and I always like the opportunity to talk about MICE, but I’m not sure how I feel about sharing such info... Thanks in advance, Anthony On Thu, Dec 16, 2021 at 1:29 PM Nataliya Coll <ncoll(a)telegeography.com<mailto:ncoll@telegeography.com>> wrote: Hi David and Anthony, I am a telecoms analyst with TeleGeography in Washington, DC. We have been contracted by Amazon Prime Video (APV) to survey ISPs across the country in preparation for Prime Video’s exclusive presentation of NFL Thursday Night Football (TNF) starting with the 2022 NFL season. The attached letter from Amazon Prime Video provides more detail about their network planning initiative. To help avoid congestion on your network during upcoming games, Amazon is asking us to query you so that they may better understand your network point(s) of contact, service coverage area, CDN provider(s), IP Transit provider(s), etc. Are you the correct contact person within your network operations team to respond to these questions? If not, can you please direct me to the right person within your network operations team? If you have any questions, feel free to contact me via email or let me know if you would like to set up a call with me. Thank you so much for your cooperation. 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Feb. 16, 2022

Thanks for the hat!

by Brandon Mulligan

Hi! I just want to say thanks for the hat. It came in really handy this week :)

Feb. 2, 2022

Please welcome Cloudflare to MICE!

by Jeremy Lumby

Name: Cloudflare Switch: MICE Main Port: E6/17/1 ASN: 13335 IPv4: This is a port upgrade, all IP info remains the same. The new connection will be 100G IPv6: Peering Contact: icm(a)cloudflare.com or peering(a)cloudflare.com Route Servers: Partial BFD: No Welcome Aboard Again! Jeremy Lumby Minnesota VoIP 9217 17th Ave S #216 Bloomington, MN 55425 Main: 612-355-7740 Direct: 612-392-6814 Fax: 952-873-7425 jlumby(a)mnvoip.com

Feb. 2, 2022

Please welcome Nuvera Communicationsto MICE!

by Jeremy Lumby

Name: Nuvera Communications Switch: MICE Main Port: Adding the following ports to Po33: e4/20 e4/22 e5/20 and e5/22 for a total of 8x10G ASN: 23465 IPv4: This is a port upgrade, all IP info remains the same. The new connection will be 80G IPv6: Peering Contact: noc(a)nuvera.net Route Servers: Yes BFD: No Welcome Aboard Again! Jeremy Lumby Minnesota VoIP 9217 17th Ave S #216 Bloomington, MN 55425 Main: 612-355-7740 Direct: 612-392-6814 Fax: 952-873-7425 jlumby(a)mnvoip.com

Feb. 2, 2022

SFN Remote Backhaul Issues

by Jay Hanke

We're currently seeing some intermittent performance issues on our third party backhaul between the SFN Remote and Minneapolis. Tickets have been opened. -- Jay Hanke, President South Front Networks jayhanke(a)southfront.io Phone 612-204-0000

Feb. 2, 2022

Re: Please welcome Subspace to MICE!

by Doug McIntyre

On Tue, Feb 01, 2022 at 11:59:00AM -0600, Jeremy Lumby wrote: >Name: Subspace >Switch: MN VoIP >Port: Ethernet 34 >ASN: 32261 >IPv4: 206.108.255.186/24 >IPv6: 2001:504:27:0:0:7E05::1/64 >Peering Contact: peering(a)subspace.com >Route Servers: Yes >BFD: No Added into the RR's. Welcome!

Feb. 1, 2022

Please welcome Subspace to MICE!

by Jeremy Lumby

Name: Subspace Switch: MN VoIP Port: Ethernet 34 ASN: 32261 IPv4: 206.108.255.186/24 IPv6: 2001:504:27:0:0:7E05::1/64 Peering Contact: peering(a)subspace.com Route Servers: Yes BFD: No Welcome Aboard! Jeremy Lumby Minnesota VoIP 9217 17th Ave S #216 Bloomington, MN 55425 Main: 612-355-7740 Direct: 612-392-6814 Fax: 952-873-7425 jlumby(a)mnvoip.com

Feb. 1, 2022

Re: NOCIX MICE Extension Proposal

by Michael Hare

Thanks Aaron and Jeremy re: the redundancy clarification. I had either overlooked or misunderstood the transport redundancy being proposed. -Michael From: MICE Discuss <MICE-DISCUSS(a)LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET> On Behalf Of Aaron Wendel Sent: Sunday, January 30, 2022 7:12 PM To: MICE-DISCUSS(a)LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET Subject: Re: [MICE-DISCUSS] NOCIX MICE Extension Proposal This goes back to my last message: I have complete confidence that Jeremy can get us from KC to MN reliably and redundantly. Within KC we operate our own DF and can spin up as much capacity as we need to wherever we need it. If something bad we’re to happen to MN VoIP, there are plenty of other paths available to pivot to. Aaron On Jan 30, 2022, at 12:55 PM, Richard Laager <rlaager(a)wiktel.com<mailto:rlaager@wiktel.com>> wrote: On 1/30/22 11:29, Michael Hare wrote: I don't think https://www.micemn.net/technical.html needs major changes. Maybe change “Operators are responsible for the costs of operating their remote switch and the links to the core switch.” to “Operators are responsible for the costs of operating their remote switch and the links [TOWARDS] the core switch.” I'm happy with the current language. My take on this is that remote-off-remote operators are still responsible for getting all the way to the core, congestion-free. For example, in this case, NOCIX is responsible for getting back to the core congestion-free. If they choose to go through MN VoIP, that's their business (subject to MICE board approval), but it does not release them from their obligation to get all the way back congestion-free. If MN VoIP (e.g. gets sold to Evil Telco tomorrow and) refuses to upgrade the links as needed, then NOCIX needs to find another way to get back to the core (or kill their remote switch). This is separate from MN VoIP's obligation to do the same. -- Richard ________________________________ To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1 ________________________________ To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1

Jan. 31, 2022

Re: NOCIX MICE Extension Proposal

by Reid Fishler

To to support Aaron, Hurricane is in his site as well, so if push came to shove, he could get service from us quickly between Mice and him. Reid On Sun, Jan 30, 2022, 8:12 PM Aaron Wendel <aaron(a)wholesaleinternet.net> wrote: > This goes back to my last message: I have complete confidence that Jeremy > can get us from KC to MN reliably and redundantly. Within KC we operate > our own DF and can spin up as much capacity as we need to wherever we need > it. > > If something bad we’re to happen to MN VoIP, there are plenty of other > paths available to pivot to. > > Aaron > > > > On Jan 30, 2022, at 12:55 PM, Richard Laager <rlaager(a)wiktel.com> wrote: > > > On 1/30/22 11:29, Michael Hare wrote: > > I don't think https://www.micemn.net/technical.html needs major changes. > Maybe change “Operators are responsible for the costs of operating their > remote switch and the links to the core switch.” to “Operators are > responsible for the costs of operating their remote switch and the links > [TOWARDS] the core switch.” > > I'm happy with the current language. My take on this is that > remote-off-remote operators are still responsible for getting all the way > to the core, congestion-free. For example, in this case, NOCIX is > responsible for getting back to the core congestion-free. If they choose to > go through MN VoIP, that's their business (subject to MICE board approval), > but it does not release them from their obligation to get all the way back > congestion-free. If MN VoIP (e.g. gets sold to Evil Telco tomorrow and) > refuses to upgrade the links as needed, then NOCIX needs to find another > way to get back to the core (or kill their remote switch). This is separate > from MN VoIP's obligation to do the same. > > -- > Richard > > > ------------------------------ > > To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: > http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1 > > > ------------------------------ > > To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: > http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1 >

Jan. 31, 2022

Re: NOCIX MICE Extension Proposal

by Aaron Wendel

This goes back to my last message: I have complete confidence that Jeremy can get us from KC to MN reliably and redundantly. Within KC we operate our own DF and can spin up as much capacity as we need to wherever we need it. If something bad we’re to happen to MN VoIP, there are plenty of other paths available to pivot to. Aaron > On Jan 30, 2022, at 12:55 PM, Richard Laager <rlaager(a)wiktel.com> wrote: > > >> On 1/30/22 11:29, Michael Hare wrote: >> I don't think https://www.micemn.net/technical.html needs major changes. Maybe change “Operators are responsible for the costs of operating their remote switch and the links to the core switch.” to “Operators are responsible for the costs of operating their remote switch and the links [TOWARDS] the core switch.” > I'm happy with the current language. My take on this is that remote-off-remote operators are still responsible for getting all the way to the core, congestion-free. For example, in this case, NOCIX is responsible for getting back to the core congestion-free. If they choose to go through MN VoIP, that's their business (subject to MICE board approval), but it does not release them from their obligation to get all the way back congestion-free. If MN VoIP (e.g. gets sold to Evil Telco tomorrow and) refuses to upgrade the links as needed, then NOCIX needs to find another way to get back to the core (or kill their remote switch). This is separate from MN VoIP's obligation to do the same. > -- > Richard > > To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: > http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1

Jan. 31, 2022

Re: NOCIX MICE Extension Proposal

by Richard Laager

On 1/30/22 11:29, Michael Hare wrote: > > I don't think https://www.micemn.net/technical.html needs major > changes. Maybe change “Operators are responsible for the costs of > operating their remote switch and the links to the core switch.” to > “Operators are responsible for the costs of operating their remote > switch and the links [TOWARDS] the core switch.” > I'm happy with the current language. My take on this is that remote-off-remote operators are still responsible for getting all the way to the core, congestion-free. For example, in this case, NOCIX is responsible for getting back to the core congestion-free. If they choose to go through MN VoIP, that's their business (subject to MICE board approval), but it does not release them from their obligation to get all the way back congestion-free. If MN VoIP (e.g. gets sold to Evil Telco tomorrow and) refuses to upgrade the links as needed, then NOCIX needs to find another way to get back to the core (or kill their remote switch). This is separate from MN VoIP's obligation to do the same. -- Richard

Jan. 30, 2022

Re: NOCIX MICE Extension Proposal

by Jeremy Lumby

Just a note of clairification is that I have experienced with regards to the frequency that unprotected waves go down. The greater the distance, the more likely/frequently that it is to happen. You brought up my SIX Extension. I have waves across 3 geographically diverse paths. On average there is a single wave outage once a month. If it was not for the monitoring, I would not notice since the redundancy tends to failover quite well. We even managed to survive prolonged outages of 10 and 20 days from Avalanches, and Mudslides. Specifically the paths for this proposal between 511 and 1102 Grand will have 2 diverse paths. One goes via Omaha, and the other one via Chicago. Jeremy Lumby Minnesota VoIP 9217 17th Ave S #216 Bloomington, MN 55425 M: 612-355-7740 D: 612-392-6814 F: 952-873-7425 jlumby(a)mnvoip.com From: MICE Discuss [mailto:MICE-DISCUSS@LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET] On Behalf Of Michael Hare Sent: Sunday, January 30, 2022 11:30 AM To: MICE-DISCUSS(a)LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET Subject: Re: [MICE-DISCUSS] NOCIX MICE Extension Proposal To be clear my messages are NOT intended to be a downvote for the proposal, I’m just intending to foster discussion. I don't thinkhttps://www.micemn.net/technical.html needs major changes. Maybe change “Operators are responsible for the costs of operating their remote switch and the links to the core switch.” to “Operators are responsible for the costs of operating their remote switch and the links [TOWARDS] the core switch.” I think it's worthwhile acknowledging the distance to the proposed remote switch, the presumed lack of redundancy in the proposed backhaul. re: reliability: Is the lack of redundancy an accurate assumption, or would this be a protected wave? AS3128 has some experience in this area [AS3128 assists in operations of a 1000mi+ fiber ring for multistate research and education, including through Minneapolis and Minnesota] so I wanted to ack that in general with distance comes decreased reliability, and eBGP stability is important since topology changes lead to packet loss during convergence. I acknowledge we already have peers at MICE that are extensions out of Chicago [Google comes to mind]. I am also aware of the options that, for example, AS32621 provides in extending folks to Seattle IX as an opt-in value add, which is contrast to the ‘auto opt-in’ stance MICE route reflectors users enjoy. re: distance: based on geography or your home AS stance, this change could result in a longer RTT between some networks. AS3128 appears at exchanges other than MICE. But if you are in this club you are probably aware that you already have this potential problem and either you deal with it or not. Admittedly, our operations are less algorithmic and more reactionary. So if I were to focus discussions on either distance or reliability, I would focus more on reliability. Ultimately with MICE per-AS BGP community support, the publication ofhttps://www.micemn.net/participants.html <https://www.micemn.net/participants.html>, and mailing list announcements of when new peers are brought onboard, AS3128 has all the tools it needs ==IF== we need to make a traffic engineer decision, which is great. If NOCIX comes onboard, I would welcome them and would have no intentions to proactively traffic engineer away from them via MICE. -Michael From: MICE Discuss <MICE-DISCUSS(a)LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET> On Behalf Of Aaron Wendel Sent: Saturday, January 29, 2022 9:46 PM To: MICE-DISCUSS(a)LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET Subject: Re: [MICE-DISCUSS] NOCIX MICE Extension Proposal Our agreement with MN VOIP would be for transport from KC to Minneapolis. If the link became congested, we would order additional capacity. If MN VoIP could t provide it then we would get it someplace else. In the end, our intention is to be congestion free from KC to the MICE core. Aaron On Jan 29, 2022, at 12:30 PM, Michael Hare <000000097dab80c5-dmarc-request(a)lists.iphouse.net> wrote: Hi- As I understand this will be an extension of an extension. It looks like this may be the second of that kind. If I understand this correctly the "South Front Networks Alberta Lea Remotes" switch hangs off of Minnesota VoIP? @https://www.micemn.net/technical.html, I see "Operators are responsible for the costs of operating their remote switch and the links to the core switch. They must monitor their traffic levels and promptly add capacity to keep the links running congestion-free." My reading of above implies the current policy assumes a remote switch will connect to the MICE core directly. Perhaps we revisit the above language as it pertains to “the core switch”. -Michael From: MICE Discuss <MICE-DISCUSS(a)LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET> On Behalf Of Richard Laager Sent: Friday, January 28, 2022 5:31 PM To:MICE-DISCUSS@LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET Subject: [MICE-DISCUSS] NOCIX MICE Extension Proposal For everyone's review and comment per our policy on remote switches: "As per the MICE remote switch policy this letter will serve as NOCIX’s intention to deploy, pending board approval, a MICE extension switch at the 1530 Swift facility at 1530 Swift St. North Kansas City, MO 64116. The purpose of this extension is to provide additional, low cost peering in the Kansas City and surrounding markets directly to the north-central US." See the attached PDF for full details. 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Jan. 30, 2022

Re: NOCIX MICE Extension Proposal

by Michael Hare

To be clear my messages are NOT intended to be a downvote for the proposal, I’m just intending to foster discussion. I don't think https://www.micemn.net/technical.html needs major changes. Maybe change “Operators are responsible for the costs of operating their remote switch and the links to the core switch.” to “Operators are responsible for the costs of operating their remote switch and the links [TOWARDS] the core switch.” I think it's worthwhile acknowledging the distance to the proposed remote switch, the presumed lack of redundancy in the proposed backhaul. re: reliability: Is the lack of redundancy an accurate assumption, or would this be a protected wave? AS3128 has some experience in this area [AS3128 assists in operations of a 1000mi+ fiber ring for multistate research and education, including through Minneapolis and Minnesota] so I wanted to ack that in general with distance comes decreased reliability, and eBGP stability is important since topology changes lead to packet loss during convergence. I acknowledge we already have peers at MICE that are extensions out of Chicago [Google comes to mind]. I am also aware of the options that, for example, AS32621 provides in extending folks to Seattle IX as an opt-in value add, which is contrast to the ‘auto opt-in’ stance MICE route reflectors users enjoy. re: distance: based on geography or your home AS stance, this change could result in a longer RTT between some networks. AS3128 appears at exchanges other than MICE. But if you are in this club you are probably aware that you already have this potential problem and either you deal with it or not. Admittedly, our operations are less algorithmic and more reactionary. So if I were to focus discussions on either distance or reliability, I would focus more on reliability. Ultimately with MICE per-AS BGP community support, the publication of https://www.micemn.net/participants.html, and mailing list announcements of when new peers are brought onboard, AS3128 has all the tools it needs ==IF== we need to make a traffic engineer decision, which is great. If NOCIX comes onboard, I would welcome them and would have no intentions to proactively traffic engineer away from them via MICE. -Michael From: MICE Discuss <MICE-DISCUSS(a)LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET> On Behalf Of Aaron Wendel Sent: Saturday, January 29, 2022 9:46 PM To: MICE-DISCUSS(a)LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET Subject: Re: [MICE-DISCUSS] NOCIX MICE Extension Proposal Our agreement with MN VOIP would be for transport from KC to Minneapolis. If the link became congested, we would order additional capacity. If MN VoIP could t provide it then we would get it someplace else. In the end, our intention is to be congestion free from KC to the MICE core. Aaron On Jan 29, 2022, at 12:30 PM, Michael Hare <000000097dab80c5-dmarc-request(a)lists.iphouse.net<mailto:000000097dab80c5-dmarc-request@lists.iphouse.net>> wrote: Hi- As I understand this will be an extension of an extension. It looks like this may be the second of that kind. If I understand this correctly the "South Front Networks Alberta Lea Remotes" switch hangs off of Minnesota VoIP? @ https://www.micemn.net/technical.html, I see "Operators are responsible for the costs of operating their remote switch and the links to the core switch. They must monitor their traffic levels and promptly add capacity to keep the links running congestion-free." My reading of above implies the current policy assumes a remote switch will connect to the MICE core directly. Perhaps we revisit the above language as it pertains to “the core switch”. -Michael From: MICE Discuss <MICE-DISCUSS(a)LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET<mailto:MICE-DISCUSS@LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET>> On Behalf Of Richard Laager Sent: Friday, January 28, 2022 5:31 PM To: MICE-DISCUSS(a)LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET<mailto:MICE-DISCUSS@LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET> Subject: [MICE-DISCUSS] NOCIX MICE Extension Proposal For everyone's review and comment per our policy on remote switches: "As per the MICE remote switch policy this letter will serve as NOCIX’s intention to deploy, pending board approval, a MICE extension switch at the 1530 Swift facility at 1530 Swift St. North Kansas City, MO 64116. The purpose of this extension is to provide additional, low cost peering in the Kansas City and surrounding markets directly to the north-central US." See the attached PDF for full details. Richard ________________________________ To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1 ________________________________ To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1 ________________________________ To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1

Jan. 30, 2022

Re: NOCIX MICE Extension Proposal

by Aaron Wendel

Our agreement with MN VOIP would be for transport from KC to Minneapolis. If the link became congested, we would order additional capacity. If MN VoIP could t provide it then we would get it someplace else. In the end, our intention is to be congestion free from KC to the MICE core. Aaron > On Jan 29, 2022, at 12:30 PM, Michael Hare <000000097dab80c5-dmarc-request(a)lists.iphouse.net> wrote: > > > Hi- > > As I understand this will be an extension of an extension. It looks like this may be the second of that kind. If I understand this correctly the "South Front Networks Alberta Lea Remotes" switch hangs off of Minnesota VoIP? > > @ https://www.micemn.net/technical.html, I see "Operators are responsible for the costs of operating their remote switch and the links to the core switch. They must monitor their traffic levels and promptly add capacity to keep the links running congestion-free." > > My reading of above implies the current policy assumes a remote switch will connect to the MICE core directly. Perhaps we revisit the above language as it pertains to “the core switch”. > > -Michael > > From: MICE Discuss <MICE-DISCUSS(a)LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET> On Behalf Of Richard Laager > Sent: Friday, January 28, 2022 5:31 PM > To: MICE-DISCUSS(a)LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET > Subject: [MICE-DISCUSS] NOCIX MICE Extension Proposal > > For everyone's review and comment per our policy on remote switches: > > "As per the MICE remote switch policy this letter will serve as NOCIX’s intention to deploy, pending board > approval, a MICE extension switch at the 1530 Swift facility at 1530 Swift St. North Kansas City, MO > 64116. The purpose of this extension is to provide additional, low cost peering in the Kansas City and > surrounding markets directly to the north-central US." > > See the attached PDF for full details. > > > Richard > > > > To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: > http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1 > > > To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: > http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1

Jan. 30, 2022

Re: NOCIX MICE Extension Proposal

by Jay Hanke

There are currently two set up like this IIRC. SFN in Albert Lea and Compudyne in Duluth. Compudyne Duluth sits behind their remote in 511. I've always taken the congestion free requirement to be all the way to the core switch. Granted, two of the MICE remotes (CNS/MN VoIP) would be ranked nationally traffic wise if they were independent exchanges. :) On Sat, Jan 29, 2022 at 12:30 PM Michael Hare <000000097dab80c5-dmarc-request(a)lists.iphouse.net> wrote: > > Hi- > > > > As I understand this will be an extension of an extension. It looks like this may be the second of that kind. If I understand this correctly the "South Front Networks Alberta Lea Remotes" switch hangs off of Minnesota VoIP? > > > > @ https://www.micemn.net/technical.html, I see "Operators are responsible for the costs of operating their remote switch and the links to the core switch. They must monitor their traffic levels and promptly add capacity to keep the links running congestion-free." > > > > My reading of above implies the current policy assumes a remote switch will connect to the MICE core directly. Perhaps we revisit the above language as it pertains to “the core switch”. > > > > -Michael > > > > From: MICE Discuss <MICE-DISCUSS(a)LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET> On Behalf Of Richard Laager > Sent: Friday, January 28, 2022 5:31 PM > To: MICE-DISCUSS(a)LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET > Subject: [MICE-DISCUSS] NOCIX MICE Extension Proposal > > > > For everyone's review and comment per our policy on remote switches: > > "As per the MICE remote switch policy this letter will serve as NOCIX’s intention to deploy, pending board > approval, a MICE extension switch at the 1530 Swift facility at 1530 Swift St. North Kansas City, MO > 64116. The purpose of this extension is to provide additional, low cost peering in the Kansas City and > surrounding markets directly to the north-central US." > > See the attached PDF for full details. > > Richard > > > > ________________________________ > > To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: > http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1 > > > ________________________________ > > To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: > http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1 -- Jay Hanke, President South Front Networks jayhanke(a)southfront.io Phone 612-204-0000

Jan. 29, 2022

Re: NOCIX MICE Extension Proposal

by Michael Hare

Hi- As I understand this will be an extension of an extension. It looks like this may be the second of that kind. If I understand this correctly the "South Front Networks Alberta Lea Remotes" switch hangs off of Minnesota VoIP? @ https://www.micemn.net/technical.html, I see "Operators are responsible for the costs of operating their remote switch and the links to the core switch. They must monitor their traffic levels and promptly add capacity to keep the links running congestion-free." My reading of above implies the current policy assumes a remote switch will connect to the MICE core directly. Perhaps we revisit the above language as it pertains to “the core switch”. -Michael From: MICE Discuss <MICE-DISCUSS(a)LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET> On Behalf Of Richard Laager Sent: Friday, January 28, 2022 5:31 PM To: MICE-DISCUSS(a)LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET Subject: [MICE-DISCUSS] NOCIX MICE Extension Proposal For everyone's review and comment per our policy on remote switches: "As per the MICE remote switch policy this letter will serve as NOCIX’s intention to deploy, pending board approval, a MICE extension switch at the 1530 Swift facility at 1530 Swift St. North Kansas City, MO 64116. The purpose of this extension is to provide additional, low cost peering in the Kansas City and surrounding markets directly to the north-central US." See the attached PDF for full details. Richard ________________________________ To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1

Jan. 29, 2022

Re: [EXTERNAL] [MICE-DISCUSS] NOCIX MICE Extension Proposal

by Kittel, Brady

Bullet point 7 is my favorite. :) ________________________________ From: MICE Discuss <MICE-DISCUSS(a)LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET> on behalf of Richard Laager <rlaager(a)WIKTEL.COM> Sent: Friday, January 28, 2022 4:31:12 PM To: MICE-DISCUSS(a)LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET <MICE-DISCUSS(a)LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET> Subject: [EXTERNAL] [MICE-DISCUSS] NOCIX MICE Extension Proposal CAUTION: This email originated from outside of HCMC. DO NOT CLICK links or open attachments unless you recognize the sender and know the content is safe. For everyone's review and comment per our policy on remote switches: "As per the MICE remote switch policy this letter will serve as NOCIX’s intention to deploy, pending board approval, a MICE extension switch at the 1530 Swift facility at 1530 Swift St. North Kansas City, MO 64116. The purpose of this extension is to provide additional, low cost peering in the Kansas City and surrounding markets directly to the north-central US." See the attached PDF for full details. Richard ________________________________ To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1<https://nam02.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Flists.ipho…>

Jan. 29, 2022

Re: Problems Reaching 206.108.255.164

by Justin Krejci

Great that it is sorted. For future reference one can reliably look up MICE IP address assignments on the MICE website participants page: https://micemn.net/participants.html Usually PeeringDB is accurate but I consider the MICE page to be fully authoritative on this matter. ________________________________ From: MICE Discuss <MICE-DISCUSS(a)LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET> on behalf of Joshua Eckert <JoshuaEckert(a)CLTEL.COM> Sent: Friday, January 28, 2022 3:36 PM To: MICE-DISCUSS(a)LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET Subject: Re: [MICE-DISCUSS] Problems Reaching 206.108.255.164 I can ping IP Pathways and they ping us so we should be good. Thanks! Joshua Eckert | Systems Administrator CL Tel | 107 N 4th St. | Clear Lake, IA 50428 P: 641-357-2111 | F: 641-357-8800 www.cltel.com<http://www.cltel.com> | www.facebook.com/cltel<http://www.facebook.com/cltel> -----Original Message----- From: MICE Discuss <MICE-DISCUSS(a)LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET> On Behalf Of Jay Hanke Sent: Friday, January 28, 2022 3:35 PM To: MICE-DISCUSS(a)LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET Subject: Re: [MICE-DISCUSS] Problems Reaching 206.108.255.164 SECURITY NOTICE: This is an email from an EXTERNAL source. If it appears to be from an internal source please notify the CLTEL JCIT team immediately. Please exercise caution and DO NOT open attachments or click links from unknown senders or in unexpected emails. ________________________________ There was a hung entry in the config. I cleared it. Can you confirm? On Fri, Jan 28, 2022 at 3:27 PM Joshua Eckert <JoshuaEckert(a)cltel.com> wrote: > > We tried on both our sides and neither could get a response. > > > > Joshua Eckert | Systems Administrator > CL Tel | 107 N 4th St. | Clear Lake, IA 50428 > P: 641-357-2111 | F: 641-357-8800 > www.cltel.com<http://www.cltel.com> | www.facebook.com/cltel<http://www.facebook.com/cltel> > > -----Original Message----- > From: MICE Discuss <MICE-DISCUSS(a)LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET> On Behalf Of Jay > Hanke > Sent: Friday, January 28, 2022 3:21 PM > To: MICE-DISCUSS(a)LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET > Subject: Re: [MICE-DISCUSS] Problems Reaching 206.108.255.164 > > SECURITY NOTICE: This is an email from an EXTERNAL source. If it appears to be from an internal source please notify the CLTEL JCIT team immediately. Please exercise caution and DO NOT open attachments or click links from unknown senders or in unexpected emails. > ________________________________ > > > I cleared mac on the remote switch can you check again? > > I can clear the 100G one as well if that doesn't work. > > On Fri, Jan 28, 2022 at 3:12 PM Joshua Eckert <JoshuaEckert(a)cltel.com> wrote: > > > > We did, and we checked with IP Pathways and the mac address in our arp was correct. > > > > > > > > Joshua Eckert | Systems Administrator CL Tel | 107 N 4th St. | Clear > > Lake, IA 50428 > > P: 641-357-2111 | F: 641-357-8800 > > www.cltel.com<http://www.cltel.com> | www.facebook.com/cltel<http://www.facebook.com/cltel> > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: MICE Discuss <MICE-DISCUSS(a)LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET> On Behalf Of Jay > > Hanke > > Sent: Friday, January 28, 2022 3:09 PM > > To: MICE-DISCUSS(a)LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET > > Subject: Re: [MICE-DISCUSS] Problems Reaching 206.108.255.164 > > > > SECURITY NOTICE: This is an email from an EXTERNAL source. If it appears to be from an internal source please notify the CLTEL JCIT team immediately. Please exercise caution and DO NOT open attachments or click links from unknown senders or in unexpected emails. > > ________________________________ > > > > > > Have you cleared your arp cache on your router? > > > > On Fri, Jan 28, 2022 at 3:00 PM Joshua Eckert <JoshuaEckert(a)cltel.com> wrote: > > > > > > We can't get a response from 206.108.255.164, we're using 206.108.255.139 as the source IP. Other IPs in this subnet are responding. > > > > > > > > > > > > Joshua Eckert | Systems Administrator CL Tel | 107 N 4th St. | > > > Clear Lake, IA 50428 > > > P: 641-357-2111 | F: 641-357-8800 > > > www.cltel.com<http://www.cltel.com> | www.facebook.com/cltel<http://www.facebook.com/cltel> > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > From: MICE Discuss <MICE-DISCUSS(a)LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET> On Behalf Of > > > Jay Hanke > > > Sent: Friday, January 28, 2022 2:51 PM > > > To: MICE-DISCUSS(a)LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET > > > Subject: Re: [MICE-DISCUSS] Problems Reaching 206.108.255.164 > > > > > > SECURITY NOTICE: This is an email from an EXTERNAL source. If it appears to be from an internal source please notify the CLTEL JCIT team immediately. Please exercise caution and DO NOT open attachments or click links from unknown senders or in unexpected emails. > > > ________________________________ > > > > > > > > > We're seeing the next hop available from Davenport (via the Albert > > > Lea > > > remote) > > > > > > jayhanke@SFN-IA-Davenport-BDR1> ping 206.108.255.164 PING > > > 206.108.255.164 (206.108.255.164): 56 data bytes > > > 64 bytes from 206.108.255.164: icmp_seq=0 ttl=64 time=14.733 ms > > > 64 bytes from 206.108.255.164: icmp_seq=1 ttl=64 time=20.584 ms > > > 64 bytes from 206.108.255.164: icmp_seq=2 ttl=64 time=14.928 ms > > > 64 bytes from 206.108.255.164: icmp_seq=3 ttl=64 time=15.388 ms > > > 64 bytes from 206.108.255.164: icmp_seq=4 ttl=64 time=19.997 ms > > > 64 bytes from 206.108.255.164: icmp_seq=5 ttl=64 time=90.039 ms > > > 64 bytes from 206.108.255.164: icmp_seq=6 ttl=64 time=16.737 ms > > > 64 bytes from 206.108.255.164: icmp_seq=7 ttl=64 time=14.910 ms > > > 64 bytes from 206.108.255.164: icmp_seq=8 ttl=64 time=14.660 ms > > > 64 bytes from 206.108.255.164: icmp_seq=9 ttl=64 time=15.294 ms > > > 64 bytes from 206.108.255.164: icmp_seq=10 ttl=64 time=14.717 ms > > > 64 bytes from 206.108.255.164: icmp_seq=11 ttl=64 time=15.642 ms > > > 64 bytes from 206.108.255.164: icmp_seq=12 ttl=64 time=15.244 ms > > > ^C > > > --- 206.108.255.164 ping statistics --- > > > 13 packets transmitted, 13 packets received, 0% packet loss > > > round-trip min/avg/max/stddev = 14.660/21.759/90.039/19.801 ms > > > > > > jayhanke@SFN-IA-Davenport-BDR1> > > > > > > UPN had circuit issues yesterday in the Urbandale area that affected this connection. I believe this has been resolved. > > > > > > On Fri, Jan 28, 2022 at 2:49 PM Jeremy Lumby <jlumby(a)mnvoip.com> wrote: > > > > > > > > Can you traceroute to the next hop past it? I can ping 206.108.255.164 however one thing to keep in mind is that the MICE subnet is not publically routed so to successfully ping 206.108.255.164 you will need to be logged into your MICE connected router so that it uses your MICE interface IP as the source address. > > > > > > > > > > > > Jeremy Lumby > > > > Minnesota VoIP > > > > 9217 17th Ave S #216 > > > > Bloomington, MN 55425 > > > > M: 612-355-7740 > > > > D: 612-392-6814 > > > > F: 952-873-7425 > > > > jlumby(a)mnvoip.com > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > From: MICE Discuss [mailto:MICE-DISCUSS@LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET] On > > > > Behalf Of Joshua Eckert > > > > Sent: Friday, January 28, 2022 2:32 PM > > > > To: MICE-DISCUSS(a)LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET > > > > Subject: [MICE-DISCUSS] Problems Reaching 206.108.255.164 > > > > > > > > We are having problems reaching 206.108.255.164. We found out this afternoon after a customer stated they were having problems reaching their company's server that has an IP in a subnet that looks like it is using that this IP as its next hop. > > > > > > > > B 199.201.120.0/24 [20/0] via 206.108.255.164, 20:24:51 > > > > > > > > Has anyone else had problems reaching this 206.108.255.164? I fairly new here, so I don't know if this is the right place to put these questions, if not please let me know. > > > > > > > > Thanks! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Joshua Eckert | Systems Administrator CL Tel | 107 N 4th St. | > > > > Clear Lake, IA 50428 > > > > P: 641-357-2111 | F: 641-357-8800 www.cltel.com<http://www.cltel.com> | > > > > www.facebook.com/cltel<http://www.facebook.com/cltel> > > > > > > > > CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE. This e-mail and any files transmitted with it are the property of Clear Lake Independent Telephone Company and/or its affiliates, are confidential, and are intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to which this e-mail is addressed. Please do not copy it or use it for any purposes, or disclose its contents to any other person. Unless stated to the contrary, any opinions or comments are personal to the writer and do not represent the official view of the company. If you are not the named recipient, please contact the sender by reply e-mail and delete this message immediately from your computer. > > > > > > > > ________________________________________ > > > > To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: > > > > http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1 > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > Jay Hanke, President > > > South Front Networks > > > jayhanke(a)southfront.io > > > Phone 612-204-0000 > > > CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE. This e-mail and any files transmitted with it are the property of Clear Lake Independent Telephone Company and/or its affiliates, are confidential, and are intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to which this e-mail is addressed. Please do not copy it or use it for any purposes, or disclose its contents to any other person. Unless stated to the contrary, any opinions or comments are personal to the writer and do not represent the official view of the company. If you are not the named recipient, please contact the sender by reply e-mail and delete this message immediately from your computer. > > > > > > > > -- > > Jay Hanke, President > > South Front Networks > > jayhanke(a)southfront.io > > Phone 612-204-0000 > > CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE. This e-mail and any files transmitted with it are the property of Clear Lake Independent Telephone Company and/or its affiliates, are confidential, and are intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to which this e-mail is addressed. Please do not copy it or use it for any purposes, or disclose its contents to any other person. Unless stated to the contrary, any opinions or comments are personal to the writer and do not represent the official view of the company. If you are not the named recipient, please contact the sender by reply e-mail and delete this message immediately from your computer. > > > > -- > Jay Hanke, President > South Front Networks > jayhanke(a)southfront.io > Phone 612-204-0000 > CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE. This e-mail and any files transmitted with it are the property of Clear Lake Independent Telephone Company and/or its affiliates, are confidential, and are intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to which this e-mail is addressed. Please do not copy it or use it for any purposes, or disclose its contents to any other person. Unless stated to the contrary, any opinions or comments are personal to the writer and do not represent the official view of the company. If you are not the named recipient, please contact the sender by reply e-mail and delete this message immediately from your computer. -- Jay Hanke, President South Front Networks jayhanke(a)southfront.io Phone 612-204-0000 CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE. This e-mail and any files transmitted with it are the property of Clear Lake Independent Telephone Company and/or its affiliates, are confidential, and are intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to which this e-mail is addressed. Please do not copy it or use it for any purposes, or disclose its contents to any other person. Unless stated to the contrary, any opinions or comments are personal to the writer and do not represent the official view of the company. If you are not the named recipient, please contact the sender by reply e-mail and delete this message immediately from your computer.

Jan. 28, 2022

NOCIX MICE Extension Proposal

by Richard Laager

For everyone's review and comment per our policy on remote switches: "As per the MICE remote switch policy this letter will serve as NOCIX’s intention to deploy, pending board approval, a MICE extension switch at the 1530 Swift facility at 1530 Swift St. North Kansas City, MO 64116. The purpose of this extension is to provide additional, low cost peering in the Kansas City and surrounding markets directly to the north-central US." See the attached PDF for full details. Richard

Jan. 28, 2022

Re: Problems Reaching 206.108.255.164

by Joshua Eckert

I can ping IP Pathways and they ping us so we should be good. Thanks! Joshua Eckert | Systems Administrator CL Tel | 107 N 4th St. | Clear Lake, IA 50428 P: 641-357-2111 | F: 641-357-8800 www.cltel.com | www.facebook.com/cltel -----Original Message----- From: MICE Discuss <MICE-DISCUSS(a)LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET> On Behalf Of Jay Hanke Sent: Friday, January 28, 2022 3:35 PM To: MICE-DISCUSS(a)LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET Subject: Re: [MICE-DISCUSS] Problems Reaching 206.108.255.164 SECURITY NOTICE: This is an email from an EXTERNAL source. If it appears to be from an internal source please notify the CLTEL JCIT team immediately. Please exercise caution and DO NOT open attachments or click links from unknown senders or in unexpected emails. ________________________________ There was a hung entry in the config. I cleared it. Can you confirm? On Fri, Jan 28, 2022 at 3:27 PM Joshua Eckert <JoshuaEckert(a)cltel.com> wrote: > > We tried on both our sides and neither could get a response. > > > > Joshua Eckert | Systems Administrator > CL Tel | 107 N 4th St. | Clear Lake, IA 50428 > P: 641-357-2111 | F: 641-357-8800 > www.cltel.com | www.facebook.com/cltel > > -----Original Message----- > From: MICE Discuss <MICE-DISCUSS(a)LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET> On Behalf Of Jay > Hanke > Sent: Friday, January 28, 2022 3:21 PM > To: MICE-DISCUSS(a)LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET > Subject: Re: [MICE-DISCUSS] Problems Reaching 206.108.255.164 > > SECURITY NOTICE: This is an email from an EXTERNAL source. If it appears to be from an internal source please notify the CLTEL JCIT team immediately. Please exercise caution and DO NOT open attachments or click links from unknown senders or in unexpected emails. > ________________________________ > > > I cleared mac on the remote switch can you check again? > > I can clear the 100G one as well if that doesn't work. > > On Fri, Jan 28, 2022 at 3:12 PM Joshua Eckert <JoshuaEckert(a)cltel.com> wrote: > > > > We did, and we checked with IP Pathways and the mac address in our arp was correct. > > > > > > > > Joshua Eckert | Systems Administrator CL Tel | 107 N 4th St. | Clear > > Lake, IA 50428 > > P: 641-357-2111 | F: 641-357-8800 > > www.cltel.com | www.facebook.com/cltel > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: MICE Discuss <MICE-DISCUSS(a)LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET> On Behalf Of Jay > > Hanke > > Sent: Friday, January 28, 2022 3:09 PM > > To: MICE-DISCUSS(a)LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET > > Subject: Re: [MICE-DISCUSS] Problems Reaching 206.108.255.164 > > > > SECURITY NOTICE: This is an email from an EXTERNAL source. If it appears to be from an internal source please notify the CLTEL JCIT team immediately. Please exercise caution and DO NOT open attachments or click links from unknown senders or in unexpected emails. > > ________________________________ > > > > > > Have you cleared your arp cache on your router? > > > > On Fri, Jan 28, 2022 at 3:00 PM Joshua Eckert <JoshuaEckert(a)cltel.com> wrote: > > > > > > We can't get a response from 206.108.255.164, we're using 206.108.255.139 as the source IP. Other IPs in this subnet are responding. > > > > > > > > > > > > Joshua Eckert | Systems Administrator CL Tel | 107 N 4th St. | > > > Clear Lake, IA 50428 > > > P: 641-357-2111 | F: 641-357-8800 > > > www.cltel.com | www.facebook.com/cltel > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > From: MICE Discuss <MICE-DISCUSS(a)LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET> On Behalf Of > > > Jay Hanke > > > Sent: Friday, January 28, 2022 2:51 PM > > > To: MICE-DISCUSS(a)LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET > > > Subject: Re: [MICE-DISCUSS] Problems Reaching 206.108.255.164 > > > > > > SECURITY NOTICE: This is an email from an EXTERNAL source. If it appears to be from an internal source please notify the CLTEL JCIT team immediately. Please exercise caution and DO NOT open attachments or click links from unknown senders or in unexpected emails. > > > ________________________________ > > > > > > > > > We're seeing the next hop available from Davenport (via the Albert > > > Lea > > > remote) > > > > > > jayhanke@SFN-IA-Davenport-BDR1> ping 206.108.255.164 PING > > > 206.108.255.164 (206.108.255.164): 56 data bytes > > > 64 bytes from 206.108.255.164: icmp_seq=0 ttl=64 time=14.733 ms > > > 64 bytes from 206.108.255.164: icmp_seq=1 ttl=64 time=20.584 ms > > > 64 bytes from 206.108.255.164: icmp_seq=2 ttl=64 time=14.928 ms > > > 64 bytes from 206.108.255.164: icmp_seq=3 ttl=64 time=15.388 ms > > > 64 bytes from 206.108.255.164: icmp_seq=4 ttl=64 time=19.997 ms > > > 64 bytes from 206.108.255.164: icmp_seq=5 ttl=64 time=90.039 ms > > > 64 bytes from 206.108.255.164: icmp_seq=6 ttl=64 time=16.737 ms > > > 64 bytes from 206.108.255.164: icmp_seq=7 ttl=64 time=14.910 ms > > > 64 bytes from 206.108.255.164: icmp_seq=8 ttl=64 time=14.660 ms > > > 64 bytes from 206.108.255.164: icmp_seq=9 ttl=64 time=15.294 ms > > > 64 bytes from 206.108.255.164: icmp_seq=10 ttl=64 time=14.717 ms > > > 64 bytes from 206.108.255.164: icmp_seq=11 ttl=64 time=15.642 ms > > > 64 bytes from 206.108.255.164: icmp_seq=12 ttl=64 time=15.244 ms > > > ^C > > > --- 206.108.255.164 ping statistics --- > > > 13 packets transmitted, 13 packets received, 0% packet loss > > > round-trip min/avg/max/stddev = 14.660/21.759/90.039/19.801 ms > > > > > > jayhanke@SFN-IA-Davenport-BDR1> > > > > > > UPN had circuit issues yesterday in the Urbandale area that affected this connection. I believe this has been resolved. > > > > > > On Fri, Jan 28, 2022 at 2:49 PM Jeremy Lumby <jlumby(a)mnvoip.com> wrote: > > > > > > > > Can you traceroute to the next hop past it? I can ping 206.108.255.164 however one thing to keep in mind is that the MICE subnet is not publically routed so to successfully ping 206.108.255.164 you will need to be logged into your MICE connected router so that it uses your MICE interface IP as the source address. > > > > > > > > > > > > Jeremy Lumby > > > > Minnesota VoIP > > > > 9217 17th Ave S #216 > > > > Bloomington, MN 55425 > > > > M: 612-355-7740 > > > > D: 612-392-6814 > > > > F: 952-873-7425 > > > > jlumby(a)mnvoip.com > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > From: MICE Discuss [mailto:MICE-DISCUSS@LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET] On > > > > Behalf Of Joshua Eckert > > > > Sent: Friday, January 28, 2022 2:32 PM > > > > To: MICE-DISCUSS(a)LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET > > > > Subject: [MICE-DISCUSS] Problems Reaching 206.108.255.164 > > > > > > > > We are having problems reaching 206.108.255.164. We found out this afternoon after a customer stated they were having problems reaching their company's server that has an IP in a subnet that looks like it is using that this IP as its next hop. > > > > > > > > B 199.201.120.0/24 [20/0] via 206.108.255.164, 20:24:51 > > > > > > > > Has anyone else had problems reaching this 206.108.255.164? I fairly new here, so I don't know if this is the right place to put these questions, if not please let me know. > > > > > > > > Thanks! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Joshua Eckert | Systems Administrator CL Tel | 107 N 4th St. | > > > > Clear Lake, IA 50428 > > > > P: 641-357-2111 | F: 641-357-8800 www.cltel.com | > > > > www.facebook.com/cltel > > > > > > > > CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE. This e-mail and any files transmitted with it are the property of Clear Lake Independent Telephone Company and/or its affiliates, are confidential, and are intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to which this e-mail is addressed. Please do not copy it or use it for any purposes, or disclose its contents to any other person. Unless stated to the contrary, any opinions or comments are personal to the writer and do not represent the official view of the company. If you are not the named recipient, please contact the sender by reply e-mail and delete this message immediately from your computer. > > > > > > > > ________________________________________ > > > > To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: > > > > http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1 > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > Jay Hanke, President > > > South Front Networks > > > jayhanke(a)southfront.io > > > Phone 612-204-0000 > > > CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE. This e-mail and any files transmitted with it are the property of Clear Lake Independent Telephone Company and/or its affiliates, are confidential, and are intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to which this e-mail is addressed. Please do not copy it or use it for any purposes, or disclose its contents to any other person. Unless stated to the contrary, any opinions or comments are personal to the writer and do not represent the official view of the company. If you are not the named recipient, please contact the sender by reply e-mail and delete this message immediately from your computer. > > > > > > > > -- > > Jay Hanke, President > > South Front Networks > > jayhanke(a)southfront.io > > Phone 612-204-0000 > > CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE. This e-mail and any files transmitted with it are the property of Clear Lake Independent Telephone Company and/or its affiliates, are confidential, and are intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to which this e-mail is addressed. Please do not copy it or use it for any purposes, or disclose its contents to any other person. Unless stated to the contrary, any opinions or comments are personal to the writer and do not represent the official view of the company. If you are not the named recipient, please contact the sender by reply e-mail and delete this message immediately from your computer. > > > > -- > Jay Hanke, President > South Front Networks > jayhanke(a)southfront.io > Phone 612-204-0000 > CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE. This e-mail and any files transmitted with it are the property of Clear Lake Independent Telephone Company and/or its affiliates, are confidential, and are intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to which this e-mail is addressed. Please do not copy it or use it for any purposes, or disclose its contents to any other person. Unless stated to the contrary, any opinions or comments are personal to the writer and do not represent the official view of the company. If you are not the named recipient, please contact the sender by reply e-mail and delete this message immediately from your computer. -- Jay Hanke, President South Front Networks jayhanke(a)southfront.io Phone 612-204-0000 CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE. This e-mail and any files transmitted with it are the property of Clear Lake Independent Telephone Company and/or its affiliates, are confidential, and are intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to which this e-mail is addressed. Please do not copy it or use it for any purposes, or disclose its contents to any other person. Unless stated to the contrary, any opinions or comments are personal to the writer and do not represent the official view of the company. If you are not the named recipient, please contact the sender by reply e-mail and delete this message immediately from your computer.

Jan. 28, 2022

Re: Problems Reaching 206.108.255.164

by Jay Hanke

There was a hung entry in the config. I cleared it. Can you confirm? On Fri, Jan 28, 2022 at 3:27 PM Joshua Eckert <JoshuaEckert(a)cltel.com> wrote: > > We tried on both our sides and neither could get a response. > > > > Joshua Eckert | Systems Administrator > CL Tel | 107 N 4th St. | Clear Lake, IA 50428 > P: 641-357-2111 | F: 641-357-8800 > www.cltel.com | www.facebook.com/cltel > > -----Original Message----- > From: MICE Discuss <MICE-DISCUSS(a)LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET> On Behalf Of Jay Hanke > Sent: Friday, January 28, 2022 3:21 PM > To: MICE-DISCUSS(a)LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET > Subject: Re: [MICE-DISCUSS] Problems Reaching 206.108.255.164 > > SECURITY NOTICE: This is an email from an EXTERNAL source. If it appears to be from an internal source please notify the CLTEL JCIT team immediately. Please exercise caution and DO NOT open attachments or click links from unknown senders or in unexpected emails. > ________________________________ > > > I cleared mac on the remote switch can you check again? > > I can clear the 100G one as well if that doesn't work. > > On Fri, Jan 28, 2022 at 3:12 PM Joshua Eckert <JoshuaEckert(a)cltel.com> wrote: > > > > We did, and we checked with IP Pathways and the mac address in our arp was correct. > > > > > > > > Joshua Eckert | Systems Administrator > > CL Tel | 107 N 4th St. | Clear Lake, IA 50428 > > P: 641-357-2111 | F: 641-357-8800 > > www.cltel.com | www.facebook.com/cltel > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: MICE Discuss <MICE-DISCUSS(a)LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET> On Behalf Of Jay > > Hanke > > Sent: Friday, January 28, 2022 3:09 PM > > To: MICE-DISCUSS(a)LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET > > Subject: Re: [MICE-DISCUSS] Problems Reaching 206.108.255.164 > > > > SECURITY NOTICE: This is an email from an EXTERNAL source. If it appears to be from an internal source please notify the CLTEL JCIT team immediately. Please exercise caution and DO NOT open attachments or click links from unknown senders or in unexpected emails. > > ________________________________ > > > > > > Have you cleared your arp cache on your router? > > > > On Fri, Jan 28, 2022 at 3:00 PM Joshua Eckert <JoshuaEckert(a)cltel.com> wrote: > > > > > > We can't get a response from 206.108.255.164, we're using 206.108.255.139 as the source IP. Other IPs in this subnet are responding. > > > > > > > > > > > > Joshua Eckert | Systems Administrator CL Tel | 107 N 4th St. | Clear > > > Lake, IA 50428 > > > P: 641-357-2111 | F: 641-357-8800 > > > www.cltel.com | www.facebook.com/cltel > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > From: MICE Discuss <MICE-DISCUSS(a)LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET> On Behalf Of Jay > > > Hanke > > > Sent: Friday, January 28, 2022 2:51 PM > > > To: MICE-DISCUSS(a)LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET > > > Subject: Re: [MICE-DISCUSS] Problems Reaching 206.108.255.164 > > > > > > SECURITY NOTICE: This is an email from an EXTERNAL source. If it appears to be from an internal source please notify the CLTEL JCIT team immediately. Please exercise caution and DO NOT open attachments or click links from unknown senders or in unexpected emails. > > > ________________________________ > > > > > > > > > We're seeing the next hop available from Davenport (via the Albert > > > Lea > > > remote) > > > > > > jayhanke@SFN-IA-Davenport-BDR1> ping 206.108.255.164 PING > > > 206.108.255.164 (206.108.255.164): 56 data bytes > > > 64 bytes from 206.108.255.164: icmp_seq=0 ttl=64 time=14.733 ms > > > 64 bytes from 206.108.255.164: icmp_seq=1 ttl=64 time=20.584 ms > > > 64 bytes from 206.108.255.164: icmp_seq=2 ttl=64 time=14.928 ms > > > 64 bytes from 206.108.255.164: icmp_seq=3 ttl=64 time=15.388 ms > > > 64 bytes from 206.108.255.164: icmp_seq=4 ttl=64 time=19.997 ms > > > 64 bytes from 206.108.255.164: icmp_seq=5 ttl=64 time=90.039 ms > > > 64 bytes from 206.108.255.164: icmp_seq=6 ttl=64 time=16.737 ms > > > 64 bytes from 206.108.255.164: icmp_seq=7 ttl=64 time=14.910 ms > > > 64 bytes from 206.108.255.164: icmp_seq=8 ttl=64 time=14.660 ms > > > 64 bytes from 206.108.255.164: icmp_seq=9 ttl=64 time=15.294 ms > > > 64 bytes from 206.108.255.164: icmp_seq=10 ttl=64 time=14.717 ms > > > 64 bytes from 206.108.255.164: icmp_seq=11 ttl=64 time=15.642 ms > > > 64 bytes from 206.108.255.164: icmp_seq=12 ttl=64 time=15.244 ms ^C > > > --- 206.108.255.164 ping statistics --- > > > 13 packets transmitted, 13 packets received, 0% packet loss > > > round-trip min/avg/max/stddev = 14.660/21.759/90.039/19.801 ms > > > > > > jayhanke@SFN-IA-Davenport-BDR1> > > > > > > UPN had circuit issues yesterday in the Urbandale area that affected this connection. I believe this has been resolved. > > > > > > On Fri, Jan 28, 2022 at 2:49 PM Jeremy Lumby <jlumby(a)mnvoip.com> wrote: > > > > > > > > Can you traceroute to the next hop past it? I can ping 206.108.255.164 however one thing to keep in mind is that the MICE subnet is not publically routed so to successfully ping 206.108.255.164 you will need to be logged into your MICE connected router so that it uses your MICE interface IP as the source address. > > > > > > > > > > > > Jeremy Lumby > > > > Minnesota VoIP > > > > 9217 17th Ave S #216 > > > > Bloomington, MN 55425 > > > > M: 612-355-7740 > > > > D: 612-392-6814 > > > > F: 952-873-7425 > > > > jlumby(a)mnvoip.com > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > From: MICE Discuss [mailto:MICE-DISCUSS@LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET] On > > > > Behalf Of Joshua Eckert > > > > Sent: Friday, January 28, 2022 2:32 PM > > > > To: MICE-DISCUSS(a)LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET > > > > Subject: [MICE-DISCUSS] Problems Reaching 206.108.255.164 > > > > > > > > We are having problems reaching 206.108.255.164. We found out this afternoon after a customer stated they were having problems reaching their company's server that has an IP in a subnet that looks like it is using that this IP as its next hop. > > > > > > > > B 199.201.120.0/24 [20/0] via 206.108.255.164, 20:24:51 > > > > > > > > Has anyone else had problems reaching this 206.108.255.164? I fairly new here, so I don't know if this is the right place to put these questions, if not please let me know. > > > > > > > > Thanks! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Joshua Eckert | Systems Administrator CL Tel | 107 N 4th St. | > > > > Clear Lake, IA 50428 > > > > P: 641-357-2111 | F: 641-357-8800 > > > > www.cltel.com | www.facebook.com/cltel > > > > > > > > CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE. This e-mail and any files transmitted with it are the property of Clear Lake Independent Telephone Company and/or its affiliates, are confidential, and are intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to which this e-mail is addressed. Please do not copy it or use it for any purposes, or disclose its contents to any other person. Unless stated to the contrary, any opinions or comments are personal to the writer and do not represent the official view of the company. If you are not the named recipient, please contact the sender by reply e-mail and delete this message immediately from your computer. > > > > > > > > ________________________________________ > > > > To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: > > > > http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1 > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > Jay Hanke, President > > > South Front Networks > > > jayhanke(a)southfront.io > > > Phone 612-204-0000 > > > CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE. This e-mail and any files transmitted with it are the property of Clear Lake Independent Telephone Company and/or its affiliates, are confidential, and are intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to which this e-mail is addressed. Please do not copy it or use it for any purposes, or disclose its contents to any other person. Unless stated to the contrary, any opinions or comments are personal to the writer and do not represent the official view of the company. If you are not the named recipient, please contact the sender by reply e-mail and delete this message immediately from your computer. > > > > > > > > -- > > Jay Hanke, President > > South Front Networks > > jayhanke(a)southfront.io > > Phone 612-204-0000 > > CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE. This e-mail and any files transmitted with it are the property of Clear Lake Independent Telephone Company and/or its affiliates, are confidential, and are intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to which this e-mail is addressed. Please do not copy it or use it for any purposes, or disclose its contents to any other person. Unless stated to the contrary, any opinions or comments are personal to the writer and do not represent the official view of the company. If you are not the named recipient, please contact the sender by reply e-mail and delete this message immediately from your computer. > > > > -- > Jay Hanke, President > South Front Networks > jayhanke(a)southfront.io > Phone 612-204-0000 > CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE. This e-mail and any files transmitted with it are the property of Clear Lake Independent Telephone Company and/or its affiliates, are confidential, and are intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to which this e-mail is addressed. Please do not copy it or use it for any purposes, or disclose its contents to any other person. Unless stated to the contrary, any opinions or comments are personal to the writer and do not represent the official view of the company. If you are not the named recipient, please contact the sender by reply e-mail and delete this message immediately from your computer. -- Jay Hanke, President South Front Networks jayhanke(a)southfront.io Phone 612-204-0000

Jan. 28, 2022

Re: Problems Reaching 206.108.255.164

by Joshua Eckert

We tried on both our sides and neither could get a response. Joshua Eckert | Systems Administrator CL Tel | 107 N 4th St. | Clear Lake, IA 50428 P: 641-357-2111 | F: 641-357-8800 www.cltel.com | www.facebook.com/cltel -----Original Message----- From: MICE Discuss <MICE-DISCUSS(a)LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET> On Behalf Of Jay Hanke Sent: Friday, January 28, 2022 3:21 PM To: MICE-DISCUSS(a)LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET Subject: Re: [MICE-DISCUSS] Problems Reaching 206.108.255.164 SECURITY NOTICE: This is an email from an EXTERNAL source. If it appears to be from an internal source please notify the CLTEL JCIT team immediately. Please exercise caution and DO NOT open attachments or click links from unknown senders or in unexpected emails. ________________________________ I cleared mac on the remote switch can you check again? I can clear the 100G one as well if that doesn't work. On Fri, Jan 28, 2022 at 3:12 PM Joshua Eckert <JoshuaEckert(a)cltel.com> wrote: > > We did, and we checked with IP Pathways and the mac address in our arp was correct. > > > > Joshua Eckert | Systems Administrator > CL Tel | 107 N 4th St. | Clear Lake, IA 50428 > P: 641-357-2111 | F: 641-357-8800 > www.cltel.com | www.facebook.com/cltel > > -----Original Message----- > From: MICE Discuss <MICE-DISCUSS(a)LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET> On Behalf Of Jay > Hanke > Sent: Friday, January 28, 2022 3:09 PM > To: MICE-DISCUSS(a)LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET > Subject: Re: [MICE-DISCUSS] Problems Reaching 206.108.255.164 > > SECURITY NOTICE: This is an email from an EXTERNAL source. If it appears to be from an internal source please notify the CLTEL JCIT team immediately. Please exercise caution and DO NOT open attachments or click links from unknown senders or in unexpected emails. > ________________________________ > > > Have you cleared your arp cache on your router? > > On Fri, Jan 28, 2022 at 3:00 PM Joshua Eckert <JoshuaEckert(a)cltel.com> wrote: > > > > We can't get a response from 206.108.255.164, we're using 206.108.255.139 as the source IP. Other IPs in this subnet are responding. > > > > > > > > Joshua Eckert | Systems Administrator CL Tel | 107 N 4th St. | Clear > > Lake, IA 50428 > > P: 641-357-2111 | F: 641-357-8800 > > www.cltel.com | www.facebook.com/cltel > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: MICE Discuss <MICE-DISCUSS(a)LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET> On Behalf Of Jay > > Hanke > > Sent: Friday, January 28, 2022 2:51 PM > > To: MICE-DISCUSS(a)LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET > > Subject: Re: [MICE-DISCUSS] Problems Reaching 206.108.255.164 > > > > SECURITY NOTICE: This is an email from an EXTERNAL source. If it appears to be from an internal source please notify the CLTEL JCIT team immediately. Please exercise caution and DO NOT open attachments or click links from unknown senders or in unexpected emails. > > ________________________________ > > > > > > We're seeing the next hop available from Davenport (via the Albert > > Lea > > remote) > > > > jayhanke@SFN-IA-Davenport-BDR1> ping 206.108.255.164 PING > > 206.108.255.164 (206.108.255.164): 56 data bytes > > 64 bytes from 206.108.255.164: icmp_seq=0 ttl=64 time=14.733 ms > > 64 bytes from 206.108.255.164: icmp_seq=1 ttl=64 time=20.584 ms > > 64 bytes from 206.108.255.164: icmp_seq=2 ttl=64 time=14.928 ms > > 64 bytes from 206.108.255.164: icmp_seq=3 ttl=64 time=15.388 ms > > 64 bytes from 206.108.255.164: icmp_seq=4 ttl=64 time=19.997 ms > > 64 bytes from 206.108.255.164: icmp_seq=5 ttl=64 time=90.039 ms > > 64 bytes from 206.108.255.164: icmp_seq=6 ttl=64 time=16.737 ms > > 64 bytes from 206.108.255.164: icmp_seq=7 ttl=64 time=14.910 ms > > 64 bytes from 206.108.255.164: icmp_seq=8 ttl=64 time=14.660 ms > > 64 bytes from 206.108.255.164: icmp_seq=9 ttl=64 time=15.294 ms > > 64 bytes from 206.108.255.164: icmp_seq=10 ttl=64 time=14.717 ms > > 64 bytes from 206.108.255.164: icmp_seq=11 ttl=64 time=15.642 ms > > 64 bytes from 206.108.255.164: icmp_seq=12 ttl=64 time=15.244 ms ^C > > --- 206.108.255.164 ping statistics --- > > 13 packets transmitted, 13 packets received, 0% packet loss > > round-trip min/avg/max/stddev = 14.660/21.759/90.039/19.801 ms > > > > jayhanke@SFN-IA-Davenport-BDR1> > > > > UPN had circuit issues yesterday in the Urbandale area that affected this connection. I believe this has been resolved. > > > > On Fri, Jan 28, 2022 at 2:49 PM Jeremy Lumby <jlumby(a)mnvoip.com> wrote: > > > > > > Can you traceroute to the next hop past it? I can ping 206.108.255.164 however one thing to keep in mind is that the MICE subnet is not publically routed so to successfully ping 206.108.255.164 you will need to be logged into your MICE connected router so that it uses your MICE interface IP as the source address. > > > > > > > > > Jeremy Lumby > > > Minnesota VoIP > > > 9217 17th Ave S #216 > > > Bloomington, MN 55425 > > > M: 612-355-7740 > > > D: 612-392-6814 > > > F: 952-873-7425 > > > jlumby(a)mnvoip.com > > > > > > > > > > > > From: MICE Discuss [mailto:MICE-DISCUSS@LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET] On > > > Behalf Of Joshua Eckert > > > Sent: Friday, January 28, 2022 2:32 PM > > > To: MICE-DISCUSS(a)LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET > > > Subject: [MICE-DISCUSS] Problems Reaching 206.108.255.164 > > > > > > We are having problems reaching 206.108.255.164. We found out this afternoon after a customer stated they were having problems reaching their company's server that has an IP in a subnet that looks like it is using that this IP as its next hop. > > > > > > B 199.201.120.0/24 [20/0] via 206.108.255.164, 20:24:51 > > > > > > Has anyone else had problems reaching this 206.108.255.164? I fairly new here, so I don't know if this is the right place to put these questions, if not please let me know. > > > > > > Thanks! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Joshua Eckert | Systems Administrator CL Tel | 107 N 4th St. | > > > Clear Lake, IA 50428 > > > P: 641-357-2111 | F: 641-357-8800 > > > www.cltel.com | www.facebook.com/cltel > > > > > > CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE. This e-mail and any files transmitted with it are the property of Clear Lake Independent Telephone Company and/or its affiliates, are confidential, and are intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to which this e-mail is addressed. Please do not copy it or use it for any purposes, or disclose its contents to any other person. Unless stated to the contrary, any opinions or comments are personal to the writer and do not represent the official view of the company. If you are not the named recipient, please contact the sender by reply e-mail and delete this message immediately from your computer. > > > > > > ________________________________________ > > > To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: > > > http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1 > > > > > > > > -- > > Jay Hanke, President > > South Front Networks > > jayhanke(a)southfront.io > > Phone 612-204-0000 > > CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE. This e-mail and any files transmitted with it are the property of Clear Lake Independent Telephone Company and/or its affiliates, are confidential, and are intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to which this e-mail is addressed. Please do not copy it or use it for any purposes, or disclose its contents to any other person. Unless stated to the contrary, any opinions or comments are personal to the writer and do not represent the official view of the company. If you are not the named recipient, please contact the sender by reply e-mail and delete this message immediately from your computer. > > > > -- > Jay Hanke, President > South Front Networks > jayhanke(a)southfront.io > Phone 612-204-0000 > CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE. This e-mail and any files transmitted with it are the property of Clear Lake Independent Telephone Company and/or its affiliates, are confidential, and are intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to which this e-mail is addressed. Please do not copy it or use it for any purposes, or disclose its contents to any other person. Unless stated to the contrary, any opinions or comments are personal to the writer and do not represent the official view of the company. If you are not the named recipient, please contact the sender by reply e-mail and delete this message immediately from your computer. -- Jay Hanke, President South Front Networks jayhanke(a)southfront.io Phone 612-204-0000 CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE. This e-mail and any files transmitted with it are the property of Clear Lake Independent Telephone Company and/or its affiliates, are confidential, and are intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to which this e-mail is addressed. Please do not copy it or use it for any purposes, or disclose its contents to any other person. Unless stated to the contrary, any opinions or comments are personal to the writer and do not represent the official view of the company. If you are not the named recipient, please contact the sender by reply e-mail and delete this message immediately from your computer.

Jan. 28, 2022