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Re: Please welcome AcenTek (MI) to MICE!

by Doug McIntyre

On Thu, Jul 21, 2022 at 07:22:00PM -0500, Jeremy Lumby wrote: >Name: AcenTek (Michigan) >Switch: Fiber Minnesota >Ports: Hu1/0/3/3 (10G Breakout) >ASN: 11904 >IPv4: 206.108.255.199/24 >IPv6: 2001:504:27:0:0:2E80::1/64 >Peering Contact: peering(a)acentek.net >Route Servers: YES >BFD: NO Added into the RR's. Welcome!

July 22, 2022

US Internet (AS 10242) - Router Maintenance

by Justin Krejci

US Internet will be dropping IX BGP sessions to complete a router reboot for software updates. BGP sessions will be re-established after reboot is completed. The maintenance window of time for this starts this evening 11pm central time. US Internet at MICE ASN: 10242 206.108.255.19 2001:504:27::2802:0:1 Justin Krejci Network Engineer 952.253.3200 12450 Wayzata Blvd. Suite 320 | Minnetonka, MN 55305 [1616694896307]

July 22, 2022

Please welcome AcenTek (MI) to MICE!

by Jeremy Lumby

Name: AcenTek (Michigan) Switch: Fiber Minnesota Ports: Hu1/0/3/3 (10G Breakout) ASN: 11904 IPv4: 206.108.255.199/24 IPv6: 2001:504:27:0:0:2E80::1/64 Peering Contact: peering(a)acentek.net Route Servers: YES BFD: NO Welcome Aboard! Jeremy Lumby Minnesota VoIP 9217 17th Ave S #216 Bloomington, MN 55425 Main: 612-355-7740 Direct: 612-392-6814 Fax: 952-873-7425 jlumby(a)mnvoip.com

July 22, 2022

Re: Customer reports on Netflix issues

by Frank Bulk

Our own issue is internal network routing related. =) Still, I find it interesting that MICE's volumes are significantly down compared to 24 hours ago. Frank From: MICE Discuss <MICE-DISCUSS(a)LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET> Sent: Thursday, July 21, 2022 8:36 AM To: MICE-DISCUSS(a)LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET Subject: [External GPC] [MICE-DISCUSS] Customer reports on Netflix issues Last night and into this morning we've received several customer reports about being unable to watch Netflix video. Our own Netflix cache shows some kind of event Wednesday at ~4:20 pm U.S. Central where IPv6 traffic to it dropped to zero and there was a huge drop in IPv4 traffic. Currently traffic volume this morning is just under half of normal. Interestingly enough, MICE's own two port channels to Netflix (image attached) are showing ~57% of yesterday's volume at this time (29.3 Gbps rather than 51.15 Gbps). I opened a ticket with Netflix through the Netflix cache administration portal, but wondering if anyone is receiving similar reports from customers or is aware of anything else? Regards, Frank Bulk FiberNet Communications ________________________________ To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1

July 21, 2022

Customer reports on Netflix issues

by Frank Bulk

Last night and into this morning we've received several customer reports about being unable to watch Netflix video. Our own Netflix cache shows some kind of event Wednesday at ~4:20 pm U.S. Central where IPv6 traffic to it dropped to zero and there was a huge drop in IPv4 traffic. Currently traffic volume this morning is just under half of normal. Interestingly enough, MICE's own two port channels to Netflix (image attached) are showing ~57% of yesterday's volume at this time (29.3 Gbps rather than 51.15 Gbps). I opened a ticket with Netflix through the Netflix cache administration portal, but wondering if anyone is receiving similar reports from customers or is aware of anything else? Regards, Frank Bulk FiberNet Communications

July 21, 2022

4/18/2022 and 5/24/2022 Board Meetings

by AnthonyAnderberg＠nuvera.net

As promised here are my notes from the last two MICE board meetings, combined since the topics were the same for both. 4/18/2022 and 5/24/2022 MICE Board Meetings Conducted via Phone Bridges, Directors in Attendance: Richard Laager, Anthony Anderberg, Reid Fishler Capital Credits and other Co-op Items We are a 501.c12 entity instead of the more typical 501.c6 so several members accrued capital credits for 2012-2016 because of their contributions. We're under no obligation to pay them. When determining how to handle the retroactive 501c12 years, Richard and Kayla previously combined 2012-2016 as if they were one year for capital credit purposes. The accountants disagreed with that approach. They said we have to recalculate it year-by-year, with different treatment of the years with losses. The accountants would prefer a large correction in the 2021 books instead of re-opening 2012-2020 books. Richard proposed that we pay out capital credits for all of the years prior to 2017 to close those years out completely. The year 2017 was when we started collecting port fees. More recent donations and donations going forward are accounted as good will, and the board discussed that we would probably be better off re-opening the books for the years 2012-2016 and reclassifying donations in those years as good-will also. This would be extra work for the accountants but would solve the capital credit pay-out issue - additionally it was felt that paying out capital credits would harm our case should we ever need to go back to the IRS in an effort to be reclassified as a 501.c3 organization. The board also talked about the possibility of needing to notify members each year of their capital credit status/amount. We also discussed the best way to pay out capital credits, either as separate checks or as credits on annual bills. After some discussion it was felt that the benefit of less-paperwork was off-set by the effort required to explain variable annual bills, additionally 1099 statements would likely be required in either case. Research on all of the above continues. Epik / IP Volume Non-Pay Disconnect The board decided to expel Epik as a member for 1) non-payment, and 2) failure to ever provide updated corporate information for their IP Volume entity. They were given notice as required by the bylaws, that notice period has now expired, and they have been disconnected. KC Remote Switch Proposal The board discussed the proposal for a remote switch in Kansas City, with most of the specific pros and cons also being discussed and well documented on the MICE-DISCUSS list. It was agreed that this is an evolving topic that will need more discussion and thought by the community as a whole. After the inclusion of expected members the revised proposal was approved with directors Anderberg and Fishler voting yes and director Laager voting no. The board also discussed several other items that will be made public at a later date. Respectfully Submitted, Anthony Anderberg MICE Treasurer/Secretary

July 19, 2022

Re: Please welcome UnitedHealth Group to MICE!

by Doug McIntyre

On Sun, Jul 17, 2022 at 02:03:00PM -0500, Jeremy Lumby wrote: >Name: UnitedHealth Group >Switch: MICE Main >Ports: 3/28/1 & 6/24/1 (200G Po 12) >ASN: 10879 >IPv4: 206.108.255.198/24 >IPv6: 2001:504:27:0:0:2A7F::1/64 >Peering Contact: inet_ops(a)uhc.com >Route Servers: YES >BFD: YES Added into the RR's. Welcome!

July 18, 2022

Please welcome UnitedHealth Group to MICE!

by Jeremy Lumby

Name: UnitedHealth Group Switch: MICE Main Ports: 3/28/1 & 6/24/1 (200G Po 12) ASN: 10879 IPv4: 206.108.255.198/24 IPv6: 2001:504:27:0:0:2A7F::1/64 Peering Contact: inet_ops(a)uhc.com Route Servers: YES BFD: YES Welcome Aboard! Jeremy Lumby Minnesota VoIP 9217 17th Ave S #216 Bloomington, MN 55425 Main: 612-355-7740 Direct: 612-392-6814 Fax: 952-873-7425 jlumby(a)mnvoip.com

July 17, 2022

Re: Last day for free MWPS 2022 registration

by Justin Huffman

I’m trying to register, however, it is saying it is closed. From: MICE Discuss <MICE-DISCUSS(a)LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET> On Behalf Of Jay Hanke Sent: Friday, July 15, 2022 8:44 AM To: MICE-DISCUSS(a)LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET Subject: [MICE-DISCUSS] Last day for free MWPS 2022 registration WARNING!! This message originated from an External Source. Please use proper judgment and caution when opening attachments, clicking links, or responding to this email. Today is the last day of free attendee registration for the Midwest Peering Summit. After today, the registration will be $40 per person either in advance or at the door. We currently have over 160 registered attendees making it the largest MICE meeting ever! Our room block at the hotel has sold out but there are a handful of rooms left at the hotel. We have a good mix of CDN, Eyeball, Vendors, R&E and IX operators attending. https://www.eventcreate.com/e/mwps2022 Special thanks to our sponsors! 1623 Farnam Arista Aureon616 Bluebird Datacenters NocIX South Front Networks -- Jay Hanke, President South Front Networks jayhanke(a)southfront.io<mailto:jayhanke@southfront.io> Phone 612-204-0000 ________________________________ To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1

July 15, 2022

Last day for free MWPS 2022 registration

by Jay Hanke

Today is the last day of free attendee registration for the Midwest Peering Summit. After today, the registration will be $40 per person either in advance or at the door. We currently have over 160 registered attendees making it the largest MICE meeting ever! Our room block at the hotel has sold out but there are a handful of rooms left at the hotel. We have a good mix of CDN, Eyeball, Vendors, R&E and IX operators attending. https://www.eventcreate.com/e/mwps2022 Special thanks to our sponsors! 1623 Farnam Arista Aureon616 Bluebird Datacenters NocIX South Front Networks -- Jay Hanke, President South Front Networks jayhanke(a)southfront.io Phone 612-204-0000

July 15, 2022

Re: Please welcome hkgo LLC to MICE!

by Doug McIntyre

On Thu, Jun 30, 2022 at 11:48:00PM -0500, Jeremy Lumby wrote: >Name: hkgo LLC >Switch: MN VoIP >Port: E 35 >ASN: 945 >IPv4: 206.108.255.197/24 >IPv6: 2001:504:27:0:0:3B1::1/64 >Peering Contact: peering(a)august.tw >Route Servers: YES >BFD: YES > I've added them to the RR's. Welcome!

July 1, 2022

Please welcome hkgo LLC to MICE!

by Jeremy Lumby

Name: hkgo LLC Switch: MN VoIP Port: E 35 ASN: 945 IPv4: 206.108.255.197/24 IPv6: 2001:504:27:0:0:3B1::1/64 Peering Contact: peering(a)august.tw Route Servers: YES BFD: YES Welcome Aboard! Jeremy Lumby Minnesota VoIP 9217 17th Ave S #216 Bloomington, MN 55425 Main: 612-355-7740 Direct: 612-392-6814 Fax: 952-873-7425 jlumby(a)mnvoip.com

July 1, 2022

Re: Please welcome ANSIBLE Networks to MICE!

by Doug McIntyre

On Wed, Jun 22, 2022 at 04:11:00PM -0500, Jeremy Lumby wrote: >Name: ANSIBLE Networks >Switch: MN VoIP >Port: E 14 >ASN: 14570 >IPv4: 206.108.255.196/24 >IPv6: 2001:504:27:0:0:38EA::1/64 >Peering Contact: peering(a)ansible.org >Route Servers: YES >BFD: NO > Configed up in the RRs. Welcome!

June 22, 2022

Please welcome ANSIBLE Networks to MICE!

by Jeremy Lumby

Name: ANSIBLE Networks Switch: MN VoIP Port: E 14 ASN: 14570 IPv4: 206.108.255.196/24 IPv6: 2001:504:27:0:0:38EA::1/64 Peering Contact: peering(a)ansible.org Route Servers: YES BFD: NO Welcome Aboard! Jeremy Lumby Minnesota VoIP 9217 17th Ave S #216 Bloomington, MN 55425 Main: 612-355-7740 Direct: 612-392-6814 Fax: 952-873-7425 jlumby(a)mnvoip.com

June 22, 2022

LibertyCommunications Port Move

by Jay Hanke

Liberty Communications has moved to port 7/1 on the SFN100G remote. This is the last member connection on the SFN 10G remote switch. The 10G switch can be removed from monitoring -- Jay Hanke, President South Front Networks jayhanke(a)southfront.io Phone 612-204-0000

June 1, 2022

ClaimLynx disconnecting from MICE

by Thomas Johnson

Effective tomorrow (5/25/22) afternoon at 15:00CT, ClaimLynx will be disconnecting from MICE. Thank you for all of the prefixes, and the effort that has gone into making such a great exchange. Best, Thomas Johnson ClaimLynx, Inc. -- This e-mail and any files transmitted with it are confidential and are intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. If you are not the intended recipient or the individual responsible for delivering the e-mail to the intended recipient, please be advised that you have received this e-mail in error and that any use, dissemination, forwarding, printing, or copying of this e-mail is strictly prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please return it to the sender immediately and delete the original message and any copy of it from your computer system. If you have any questions concerning this message, please contact the sender or call ClaimLynx at (952) 593-5969.

May 25, 2022

Re: Please welcome Flexnetworks to MICE!

by Doug McIntyre

On Sat, May 21, 2022 at 12:00:00AM -0500, Jeremy Lumby wrote: >Name: Flexnetworks >Switch: MICE Core >Port: E 4/23 >ASN: 19523 >IPv4: 206.108.255.194/24 >IPv6: 2001:504:27:0:0:4C43::1/64 >Peering Contact: support(a)flexnetworks.ca >Route Servers: YES >BFD: NO Added into the RR's. Welcome!

May 24, 2022

Re: Apple peering down

by Frank Bulk

Came up this morning at 10:25:30 am. Frank From: MICE Discuss <MICE-DISCUSS(a)LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET> Sent: Friday, May 20, 2022 3:48 PM To: MICE-DISCUSS(a)LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET Subject: [External GPC] Re: [MICE-DISCUSS] Apple peering down Good point – the other is happy. BGP state of AS714-1.micemn.net [206.108.255.146/AS 714 (APPLE-ENGINEERING, US)]: active; prefixes (received/installed/sent): 1,019/1,019/0 BGP state of AS714-2.micemn.net [206.108.255.147/AS 714 (APPLE-ENGINEERING, US)]: established; prefixes (received/installed/sent): 1,018/1,018/164 Frank From: MICE Discuss <MICE-DISCUSS(a)LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET<mailto:MICE-DISCUSS@LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET>> On Behalf Of Jeremy Lumby Sent: Friday, May 20, 2022 12:42 PM To: MICE-DISCUSS(a)LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET<mailto:MICE-DISCUSS@LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET> Subject: Re: [MICE-DISCUSS] Apple peering down They have 2 connections, and 2 sets of IPs (2 IPv6 and 2 IPv4). Everyone should peer with both sets of IPs. Currently 1 connection, and the corresponding 1 set of IPs is down, so as long as you are peered with the other set as well, all of the traffic should shift, and there should not be a problem. From: MICE Discuss [mailto:MICE-DISCUSS@LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET] On Behalf Of Frank Bulk Sent: Friday, May 20, 2022 12:29 PM To: MICE-DISCUSS(a)LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET<mailto:MICE-DISCUSS@LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET> Subject: Re: [MICE-DISCUSS] Apple peering down Ok, so MICE’s own peer with Apple is good, but some people’s direct peer with Apple might not be good. Frank From: MICE Discuss <MICE-DISCUSS(a)LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET<mailto:MICE-DISCUSS@LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET>> On Behalf Of Jeremy Lumby Sent: Friday, May 20, 2022 11:24 AM To: MICE-DISCUSS(a)LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET<mailto:MICE-DISCUSS@LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET> Subject: Re: [MICE-DISCUSS] Apple peering down Traffic doubled on their second connection to MICE when the first one went down. From: MICE Discuss [mailto:MICE-DISCUSS@LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET] On Behalf Of Frank Bulk Sent: Friday, May 20, 2022 11:10 AM To: MICE-DISCUSS(a)LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET<mailto:MICE-DISCUSS@LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET> Subject: Re: [MICE-DISCUSS] Apple peering down Thanks. Can someone reconcile Anthony’s statement with Jay’s statement? “Looks like MICE’s LAG Po30 to Apple went down at the same time - about 3:15am this morning.” “One of their port channels is down. Looks like the other connection picked up the slack.” Frank From: MICE Discuss <MICE-DISCUSS(a)LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET<mailto:MICE-DISCUSS@LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET>> On Behalf Of AnthonyAnderberg(a)nuvera.net<mailto:AnthonyAnderberg@nuvera.net> Sent: Friday, May 20, 2022 8:50 AM To: MICE-DISCUSS(a)LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET<mailto:MICE-DISCUSS@LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET> Subject: Re: [MICE-DISCUSS] Apple peering down Looks like MICE’s LAG Po30 to Apple went down at the same time - about 3:15am this morning. From: MICE Discuss <MICE-DISCUSS(a)LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET<mailto:MICE-DISCUSS@LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET>> on behalf of Frank Bulk <fbulk(a)MYPREMIERONLINE.COM<mailto:fbulk@MYPREMIERONLINE.COM>> Reply-To: MICE Discuss <MICE-DISCUSS(a)LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET<mailto:MICE-DISCUSS@LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET>> Date: Friday, May 20, 2022 at 8:48 AM To: MICE Discuss <MICE-DISCUSS(a)LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET<mailto:MICE-DISCUSS@LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET>> Subject: [MICE-DISCUSS] Apple peering down Anyone else seeing Apple peer down over IPv4 and IPv6 since 3:18 am? May 20 03:18:10 207.32.15.14 (sxct-north-2.sxcy.fbnt.netins.net) SiouxCity-Fibernet-Arista Rib: %BGP-3-NOTIFICATION: sent to neighbor 2001:504:27::2ca:0:1 (AS714-1.micemn.net) (AS 714 APPLE-ENGINEERING, US) 4/0 (Hold Timer Expired Error/Unspecified) 0 bytes May 20 03:18:10 207.32.15.14 (sxct-north-2.sxcy.fbnt.netins.net) SiouxCity-Fibernet-Arista Rib: %BGP-5-ADJCHANGE: peer 2001:504:27::2ca:0:1 (AS714-1.micemn.net) (AS 714 APPLE-ENGINEERING, US) old state Established event HoldTime new state Idle May 20 03:18:10 207.32.15.14 (sxct-north-2.sxcy.fbnt.netins.net) SiouxCity-Fibernet-Arista Rib: %BGP-3-NOTIFICATION: sent to neighbor 206.108.255.146 (AS714-1.micemn.net) (AS 714 APPLE-ENGINEERING, US) 4/0 (Hold Timer Expired Error/Unspecified) 0 bytes May 20 03:18:10 207.32.15.14 (sxct-north-2.sxcy.fbnt.netins.net) SiouxCity-Fibernet-Arista Rib: %BGP-5-ADJCHANGE: peer 206.108.255.146 (AS714-1.micemn.net) (AS 714 APPLE-ENGINEERING, US) old state Established event HoldTime new state Idle Fran k ________________________________ To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1 ________________________________ To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1 ________________________________ To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1 ________________________________ To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1 ________________________________ To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1 ________________________________ To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1 ________________________________ To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1

May 23, 2022

Please welcome Flexnetworks to MICE!

by Jeremy Lumby

Name: Flexnetworks Switch: MICE Core Port: E 4/23 ASN: 19523 IPv4: 206.108.255.194/24 IPv6: 2001:504:27:0:0:4C43::1/64 Peering Contact: support(a)flexnetworks.ca Route Servers: YES BFD: NO Welcome Aboard! Jeremy Lumby Minnesota VoIP 9217 17th Ave S #216 Bloomington, MN 55425 Main: 612-355-7740 Direct: 612-392-6814 Fax: 952-873-7425 jlumby(a)mnvoip.com

May 21, 2022

Re: Apple peering down

by Frank Bulk

Good point – the other is happy. BGP state of AS714-1.micemn.net [206.108.255.146/AS 714 (APPLE-ENGINEERING, US)]: active; prefixes (received/installed/sent): 1,019/1,019/0 BGP state of AS714-2.micemn.net [206.108.255.147/AS 714 (APPLE-ENGINEERING, US)]: established; prefixes (received/installed/sent): 1,018/1,018/164 Frank From: MICE Discuss <MICE-DISCUSS(a)LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET> On Behalf Of Jeremy Lumby Sent: Friday, May 20, 2022 12:42 PM To: MICE-DISCUSS(a)LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET Subject: Re: [MICE-DISCUSS] Apple peering down They have 2 connections, and 2 sets of IPs (2 IPv6 and 2 IPv4). Everyone should peer with both sets of IPs. Currently 1 connection, and the corresponding 1 set of IPs is down, so as long as you are peered with the other set as well, all of the traffic should shift, and there should not be a problem. From: MICE Discuss [mailto:MICE-DISCUSS@LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET] On Behalf Of Frank Bulk Sent: Friday, May 20, 2022 12:29 PM To: MICE-DISCUSS(a)LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET<mailto:MICE-DISCUSS@LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET> Subject: Re: [MICE-DISCUSS] Apple peering down Ok, so MICE’s own peer with Apple is good, but some people’s direct peer with Apple might not be good. Frank From: MICE Discuss <MICE-DISCUSS(a)LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET<mailto:MICE-DISCUSS@LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET>> On Behalf Of Jeremy Lumby Sent: Friday, May 20, 2022 11:24 AM To: MICE-DISCUSS(a)LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET<mailto:MICE-DISCUSS@LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET> Subject: Re: [MICE-DISCUSS] Apple peering down Traffic doubled on their second connection to MICE when the first one went down. From: MICE Discuss [mailto:MICE-DISCUSS@LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET] On Behalf Of Frank Bulk Sent: Friday, May 20, 2022 11:10 AM To: MICE-DISCUSS(a)LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET<mailto:MICE-DISCUSS@LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET> Subject: Re: [MICE-DISCUSS] Apple peering down Thanks. Can someone reconcile Anthony’s statement with Jay’s statement? “Looks like MICE’s LAG Po30 to Apple went down at the same time - about 3:15am this morning.” “One of their port channels is down. Looks like the other connection picked up the slack.” Frank From: MICE Discuss <MICE-DISCUSS(a)LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET<mailto:MICE-DISCUSS@LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET>> On Behalf Of AnthonyAnderberg(a)nuvera.net<mailto:AnthonyAnderberg@nuvera.net> Sent: Friday, May 20, 2022 8:50 AM To: MICE-DISCUSS(a)LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET<mailto:MICE-DISCUSS@LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET> Subject: Re: [MICE-DISCUSS] Apple peering down Looks like MICE’s LAG Po30 to Apple went down at the same time - about 3:15am this morning. From: MICE Discuss <MICE-DISCUSS(a)LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET<mailto:MICE-DISCUSS@LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET>> on behalf of Frank Bulk <fbulk(a)MYPREMIERONLINE.COM<mailto:fbulk@MYPREMIERONLINE.COM>> Reply-To: MICE Discuss <MICE-DISCUSS(a)LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET<mailto:MICE-DISCUSS@LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET>> Date: Friday, May 20, 2022 at 8:48 AM To: MICE Discuss <MICE-DISCUSS(a)LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET<mailto:MICE-DISCUSS@LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET>> Subject: [MICE-DISCUSS] Apple peering down Anyone else seeing Apple peer down over IPv4 and IPv6 since 3:18 am? May 20 03:18:10 207.32.15.14 (sxct-north-2.sxcy.fbnt.netins.net) SiouxCity-Fibernet-Arista Rib: %BGP-3-NOTIFICATION: sent to neighbor 2001:504:27::2ca:0:1 (AS714-1.micemn.net) (AS 714 APPLE-ENGINEERING, US) 4/0 (Hold Timer Expired Error/Unspecified) 0 bytes May 20 03:18:10 207.32.15.14 (sxct-north-2.sxcy.fbnt.netins.net) SiouxCity-Fibernet-Arista Rib: %BGP-5-ADJCHANGE: peer 2001:504:27::2ca:0:1 (AS714-1.micemn.net) (AS 714 APPLE-ENGINEERING, US) old state Established event HoldTime new state Idle May 20 03:18:10 207.32.15.14 (sxct-north-2.sxcy.fbnt.netins.net) SiouxCity-Fibernet-Arista Rib: %BGP-3-NOTIFICATION: sent to neighbor 206.108.255.146 (AS714-1.micemn.net) (AS 714 APPLE-ENGINEERING, US) 4/0 (Hold Timer Expired Error/Unspecified) 0 bytes May 20 03:18:10 207.32.15.14 (sxct-north-2.sxcy.fbnt.netins.net) SiouxCity-Fibernet-Arista Rib: %BGP-5-ADJCHANGE: peer 206.108.255.146 (AS714-1.micemn.net) (AS 714 APPLE-ENGINEERING, US) old state Established event HoldTime new state Idle Fran k ________________________________ To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1 ________________________________ To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1 ________________________________ To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1 ________________________________ To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1 ________________________________ To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1 ________________________________ To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1

May 20, 2022

Re: Apple peering down

by Jeremy Lumby

They have 2 connections, and 2 sets of IPs (2 IPv6 and 2 IPv4). Everyone should peer with both sets of IPs. Currently 1 connection, and the corresponding 1 set of IPs is down, so as long as you are peered with the other set as well, all of the traffic should shift, and there should not be a problem. From: MICE Discuss [mailto:MICE-DISCUSS@LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET] On Behalf Of Frank Bulk Sent: Friday, May 20, 2022 12:29 PM To: MICE-DISCUSS(a)LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET Subject: Re: [MICE-DISCUSS] Apple peering down Ok, so MICE’s own peer with Apple is good, but some people’s direct peer with Apple might not be good. Frank From: MICE Discuss <MICE-DISCUSS(a)LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET> On Behalf Of Jeremy Lumby Sent: Friday, May 20, 2022 11:24 AM To: MICE-DISCUSS(a)LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET Subject: Re: [MICE-DISCUSS] Apple peering down Traffic doubled on their second connection to MICE when the first one went down. From: MICE Discuss [mailto:MICE-DISCUSS@LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET <MICE-DISCUSS(a)LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET>] On Behalf Of Frank Bulk Sent: Friday, May 20, 2022 11:10 AM To:MICE-DISCUSS@LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET Subject: Re: [MICE-DISCUSS] Apple peering down Thanks. Can someone reconcile Anthony’s statement with Jay’s statement? “Looks like MICE’s LAG Po30 to Apple went down at the same time - about 3:15am this morning.” “One of their port channels is down. Looks like the other connection picked up the slack.” Frank From: MICE Discuss <MICE-DISCUSS(a)LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET> On Behalf OfAnthonyAnderberg(a)nuvera.net Sent: Friday, May 20, 2022 8:50 AM To:MICE-DISCUSS@LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET Subject: Re: [MICE-DISCUSS] Apple peering down Looks like MICE’s LAG Po30 to Apple went down at the same time - about 3:15am this morning. From: MICE Discuss <MICE-DISCUSS(a)LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET> on behalf of Frank Bulk <fbulk(a)MYPREMIERONLINE.COM> Reply-To: MICE Discuss <MICE-DISCUSS(a)LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET> Date: Friday, May 20, 2022 at 8:48 AM To: MICE Discuss <MICE-DISCUSS(a)LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET> Subject: [MICE-DISCUSS] Apple peering down Anyone else seeing Apple peer down over IPv4 and IPv6 since 3:18 am? May 20 03:18:10 207.32.15.14 (sxct-north-2.sxcy.fbnt.netins.net) SiouxCity-Fibernet-Arista Rib: %BGP-3-NOTIFICATION: sent to neighbor 2001:504:27::2ca:0:1 (AS714-1.micemn.net) (AS 714 APPLE-ENGINEERING, US) 4/0 (Hold Timer Expired Error/Unspecified) 0 bytes May 20 03:18:10 207.32.15.14 (sxct-north-2.sxcy.fbnt.netins.net) SiouxCity-Fibernet-Arista Rib: %BGP-5-ADJCHANGE: peer 2001:504:27::2ca:0:1 (AS714-1.micemn.net) (AS 714 APPLE-ENGINEERING, US) old state Established event HoldTime new state Idle May 20 03:18:10 207.32.15.14 (sxct-north-2.sxcy.fbnt.netins.net) SiouxCity-Fibernet-Arista Rib: %BGP-3-NOTIFICATION: sent to neighbor 206.108.255.146 (AS714-1.micemn.net) (AS 714 APPLE-ENGINEERING, US) 4/0 (Hold Timer Expired Error/Unspecified) 0 bytes May 20 03:18:10 207.32.15.14 (sxct-north-2.sxcy.fbnt.netins.net) SiouxCity-Fibernet-Arista Rib: %BGP-5-ADJCHANGE: peer 206.108.255.146 (AS714-1.micemn.net) (AS 714 APPLE-ENGINEERING, US) old state Established event HoldTime new state Idle Fran k 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May 20, 2022

Re: Apple peering down

by Jeff Wilde

17.1.137.60 0 714 2859620 2669364 1167452231 0 0 1y49w 1020 Mine is up [A picture containing icon Description automatically generated] Jeff Wilde • Network Engineer • Park Region Office 218.826.6161 • Direct 218.826.8330 • Fax 218.826.6298 From: MICE Discuss <MICE-DISCUSS(a)LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET> On Behalf Of Frank Bulk Sent: Friday, May 20, 2022 12:29 PM To: MICE-DISCUSS(a)LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET Subject: Re: [MICE-DISCUSS] Apple peering down Ok, so MICE’s own peer with Apple is good, but some people’s direct peer with Apple might not be good. Frank From: MICE Discuss <MICE-DISCUSS(a)LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET<mailto:MICE-DISCUSS@LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET>> On Behalf Of Jeremy Lumby Sent: Friday, May 20, 2022 11:24 AM To: MICE-DISCUSS(a)LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET<mailto:MICE-DISCUSS@LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET> Subject: Re: [MICE-DISCUSS] Apple peering down Traffic doubled on their second connection to MICE when the first one went down. From: MICE Discuss [mailto:MICE-DISCUSS@LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET] On Behalf Of Frank Bulk Sent: Friday, May 20, 2022 11:10 AM To: MICE-DISCUSS(a)LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET<mailto:MICE-DISCUSS@LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET> Subject: Re: [MICE-DISCUSS] Apple peering down Thanks. Can someone reconcile Anthony’s statement with Jay’s statement? “Looks like MICE’s LAG Po30 to Apple went down at the same time - about 3:15am this morning.” “One of their port channels is down. Looks like the other connection picked up the slack.” Frank From: MICE Discuss <MICE-DISCUSS(a)LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET<mailto:MICE-DISCUSS@LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET>> On Behalf Of AnthonyAnderberg(a)nuvera.net<mailto:AnthonyAnderberg@nuvera.net> Sent: Friday, May 20, 2022 8:50 AM To: MICE-DISCUSS(a)LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET<mailto:MICE-DISCUSS@LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET> Subject: Re: [MICE-DISCUSS] Apple peering down Looks like MICE’s LAG Po30 to Apple went down at the same time - about 3:15am this morning. From: MICE Discuss <MICE-DISCUSS(a)LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET<mailto:MICE-DISCUSS@LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET>> on behalf of Frank Bulk <fbulk(a)MYPREMIERONLINE.COM<mailto:fbulk@MYPREMIERONLINE.COM>> Reply-To: MICE Discuss <MICE-DISCUSS(a)LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET<mailto:MICE-DISCUSS@LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET>> Date: Friday, May 20, 2022 at 8:48 AM To: MICE Discuss <MICE-DISCUSS(a)LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET<mailto:MICE-DISCUSS@LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET>> Subject: [MICE-DISCUSS] Apple peering down Anyone else seeing Apple peer down over IPv4 and IPv6 since 3:18 am? May 20 03:18:10 207.32.15.14 (sxct-north-2.sxcy.fbnt.netins.net) SiouxCity-Fibernet-Arista Rib: %BGP-3-NOTIFICATION: sent to neighbor 2001:504:27::2ca:0:1 (AS714-1.micemn.net) (AS 714 APPLE-ENGINEERING, US) 4/0 (Hold Timer Expired Error/Unspecified) 0 bytes May 20 03:18:10 207.32.15.14 (sxct-north-2.sxcy.fbnt.netins.net) SiouxCity-Fibernet-Arista Rib: %BGP-5-ADJCHANGE: peer 2001:504:27::2ca:0:1 (AS714-1.micemn.net) (AS 714 APPLE-ENGINEERING, US) old state Established event HoldTime new state Idle May 20 03:18:10 207.32.15.14 (sxct-north-2.sxcy.fbnt.netins.net) SiouxCity-Fibernet-Arista Rib: %BGP-3-NOTIFICATION: sent to neighbor 206.108.255.146 (AS714-1.micemn.net) (AS 714 APPLE-ENGINEERING, US) 4/0 (Hold Timer Expired Error/Unspecified) 0 bytes May 20 03:18:10 207.32.15.14 (sxct-north-2.sxcy.fbnt.netins.net) SiouxCity-Fibernet-Arista Rib: %BGP-5-ADJCHANGE: peer 206.108.255.146 (AS714-1.micemn.net) (AS 714 APPLE-ENGINEERING, US) old state Established event HoldTime new state Idle Fran k ________________________________ To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1 ________________________________ To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1 ________________________________ To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1 ________________________________ To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1 ________________________________ To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1

May 20, 2022

Re: Apple peering down

by Frank Bulk

Ok, so MICE’s own peer with Apple is good, but some people’s direct peer with Apple might not be good. Frank From: MICE Discuss <MICE-DISCUSS(a)LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET> On Behalf Of Jeremy Lumby Sent: Friday, May 20, 2022 11:24 AM To: MICE-DISCUSS(a)LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET Subject: Re: [MICE-DISCUSS] Apple peering down Traffic doubled on their second connection to MICE when the first one went down. From: MICE Discuss [mailto:MICE-DISCUSS@LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET] On Behalf Of Frank Bulk Sent: Friday, May 20, 2022 11:10 AM To: MICE-DISCUSS(a)LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET<mailto:MICE-DISCUSS@LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET> Subject: Re: [MICE-DISCUSS] Apple peering down Thanks. Can someone reconcile Anthony’s statement with Jay’s statement? “Looks like MICE’s LAG Po30 to Apple went down at the same time - about 3:15am this morning.” “One of their port channels is down. Looks like the other connection picked up the slack.” Frank From: MICE Discuss <MICE-DISCUSS(a)LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET<mailto:MICE-DISCUSS@LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET>> On Behalf Of AnthonyAnderberg(a)nuvera.net<mailto:AnthonyAnderberg@nuvera.net> Sent: Friday, May 20, 2022 8:50 AM To: MICE-DISCUSS(a)LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET<mailto:MICE-DISCUSS@LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET> Subject: Re: [MICE-DISCUSS] Apple peering down Looks like MICE’s LAG Po30 to Apple went down at the same time - about 3:15am this morning. From: MICE Discuss <MICE-DISCUSS(a)LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET<mailto:MICE-DISCUSS@LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET>> on behalf of Frank Bulk <fbulk(a)MYPREMIERONLINE.COM<mailto:fbulk@MYPREMIERONLINE.COM>> Reply-To: MICE Discuss <MICE-DISCUSS(a)LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET<mailto:MICE-DISCUSS@LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET>> Date: Friday, May 20, 2022 at 8:48 AM To: MICE Discuss <MICE-DISCUSS(a)LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET<mailto:MICE-DISCUSS@LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET>> Subject: [MICE-DISCUSS] Apple peering down Anyone else seeing Apple peer down over IPv4 and IPv6 since 3:18 am? May 20 03:18:10 207.32.15.14 (sxct-north-2.sxcy.fbnt.netins.net) SiouxCity-Fibernet-Arista Rib: %BGP-3-NOTIFICATION: sent to neighbor 2001:504:27::2ca:0:1 (AS714-1.micemn.net) (AS 714 APPLE-ENGINEERING, US) 4/0 (Hold Timer Expired Error/Unspecified) 0 bytes May 20 03:18:10 207.32.15.14 (sxct-north-2.sxcy.fbnt.netins.net) SiouxCity-Fibernet-Arista Rib: %BGP-5-ADJCHANGE: peer 2001:504:27::2ca:0:1 (AS714-1.micemn.net) (AS 714 APPLE-ENGINEERING, US) old state Established event HoldTime new state Idle May 20 03:18:10 207.32.15.14 (sxct-north-2.sxcy.fbnt.netins.net) SiouxCity-Fibernet-Arista Rib: %BGP-3-NOTIFICATION: sent to neighbor 206.108.255.146 (AS714-1.micemn.net) (AS 714 APPLE-ENGINEERING, US) 4/0 (Hold Timer Expired Error/Unspecified) 0 bytes May 20 03:18:10 207.32.15.14 (sxct-north-2.sxcy.fbnt.netins.net) SiouxCity-Fibernet-Arista Rib: %BGP-5-ADJCHANGE: peer 206.108.255.146 (AS714-1.micemn.net) (AS 714 APPLE-ENGINEERING, US) old state Established event HoldTime new state Idle Fran k ________________________________ To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1 ________________________________ To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1 ________________________________ To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1 ________________________________ To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1

May 20, 2022

Re: Please welcome Communications 1 Network to MICE!

by Gary Glissendorf

Our direct 10g with Apple have been bouncing for a week. They were having some transport problems back to Chicago. Gary Glissendorf | Network Architect gary.glissendorf(a)sdncommunications.com -----Original Message----- From: MICE Discuss <MICE-DISCUSS(a)LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET> On Behalf Of Doug McIntyre Sent: Friday, May 20, 2022 11:31 AM To: MICE-DISCUSS(a)LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET Subject: Re: [MICE-DISCUSS] Please welcome Communications 1 Network to MICE! <table style="border:1px; border-style:solid; border-color:#ac6337; background-color:#ffeb9c"><tr><td><font size=2 face=calibri>CAUTION: This email originated from outside of SDN Communications. Exercise caution when opening attachments or clicking links, especially from unknown senders.</font></td></tr></table><br> On Thu, May 19, 2022 at 03:54:00PM -0500, Jeremy Lumby wrote: >Name: Communications 1 Network >Switch: SouthFront Albert Lea >Port: E 7/4 >ASN: 394911 >IPv4: 206.108.255.195/24 >IPv6: 2001:504:27:0:6:69F::1/64 >Peering Contact: jkeiper(a)comm1net.net >Route Servers: YES >BFD: YES Added into the route servers. Welcome! ***This message and any attachments are solely for the intended recipient. If you are not the intended recipient, disclosure, copying, use or distribution of the information included in this message is prohibited -- Please immediately and permanently delete.***

May 20, 2022

Re: Please welcome Communications 1 Network to MICE!

by Doug McIntyre

On Thu, May 19, 2022 at 03:54:00PM -0500, Jeremy Lumby wrote: >Name: Communications 1 Network >Switch: SouthFront Albert Lea >Port: E 7/4 >ASN: 394911 >IPv4: 206.108.255.195/24 >IPv6: 2001:504:27:0:6:69F::1/64 >Peering Contact: jkeiper(a)comm1net.net >Route Servers: YES >BFD: YES Added into the route servers. Welcome!

May 20, 2022