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Re: LOI Draft?

by Mike Horwath

On Thu, Sep 16, 2010 at 05:21:55PM -0500, Jay Hanke wrote: > How about something like: > > [company name] , [AS Number], is planning to interconnect to the > Midwest Internet Cooperative Exchange for the purpose of exchanging > Internet Protocol traffic with other members of the exchange. This > connection will be installed as soon as the exchange begins > operations. > > --- Signature of important person with title/date --- > > I think it would be good to have the IP data as well but I don't want > to delay processing looking up all of the addresses. Looks great. Thanks for doing my homework! -- Mike Horwath ipHouse - Welcome home! drechsau(a)iphouse.net The universe is an island, surrounded by whatever it is that surrounds universes. - Berkeley Fortune ######################################################################## To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1

Sept. 16, 2010

LOI Draft?

by Jay Hanke

How about something like: [company name] , [AS Number], is planning to interconnect to the Midwest Internet Cooperative Exchange for the purpose of exchanging Internet Protocol traffic with other members of the exchange. This connection will be installed as soon as the exchange begins operations. --- Signature of important person with title/date --- I think it would be good to have the IP data as well but I don't want to delay processing looking up all of the addresses. Thanks, -- Jay Hanke CTO, CCIE #19093 Mankato Networks LLC 320 East Liberty Street Mankato, MN 56001-3838 Google 530-618-2398 jayhanke(a)mankatonetworks.net http://www.mankatonetworks.com ######################################################################## To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1

Sept. 16, 2010

Re: Notes from Meeting on 9/15/2010

by Mike Horwath

On Thu, Sep 16, 2010 at 02:31:42PM -0500, James Montz wrote: > *Letter?s of Intent* > Requested letter?s of intent from all entities connecting to the exchange > for ARIN I am working on this and told Jay and Dave that I'd get them something last night or today. Today is almost over but I have not forgotten, just have people out today and having to pick up the slack. I am sure none of you have ever had that issue, I am alone in this. :) -- Mike Horwath ipHouse - Welcome home! drechsau(a)iphouse.net The universe is an island, surrounded by whatever it is that surrounds universes. - Berkeley Fortune ######################################################################## To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1

Sept. 16, 2010

Re: Notes from Meeting on 9/15/2010

by Mike Horwath

On Thu, Sep 16, 2010 at 02:31:42PM -0500, James Montz wrote: [snipper] You rule, thank you! -- Mike Horwath ipHouse - Welcome home! drechsau(a)iphouse.net The universe is an island, surrounded by whatever it is that surrounds universes. - Berkeley Fortune ######################################################################## To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1

Sept. 16, 2010

Notes from Meeting on 9/15/2010

by James Montz

Here are my brief notes from the MICE UG Meeting on Sept. 15th, 2010. Please feel free to fill in detail and other items. MICE - Meeting Minutes : Sept. 15, 2010 *Two Organizational Committee’s* * Technical Committee* - Dave Farmer, UMN - TIES - CNS - SDN *Operation’s Committee* - Mike, IPHouse - CNS - Tom Drill, My Telepath - TJ Albrecht, CitiLink *Letter’s of Intent* Requested letter’s of intent from all entities connecting to the exchange for ARIN *Next Meeting* Date: November, 10th, 2010 Time: 3:00-7:00pm Location: TBD (preferably somewhere suitable for voice conferencing) --------------------------------------- James Montz Senior Consultant Mankato Networks LLC ######################################################################## To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1

Sept. 16, 2010

Re: REMINDER September 15th, 2010 at Grumpy's!

by Mike Horwath

On Wed, Sep 15, 2010 at 01:24:00AM -0500, Mike Horwath wrote: > See the linkedin group for other details. Or... COPY/PASTE incoming! Subject: MICE Meeting Reminder Reminder! There is a MICE meeting at 3PM on Wednesday, Sept 15. This is the second meeting of the MICE UG. Tentative Agenda Items: I. Address Space Report - Dave Farmer II. Proposed Infrastructure - Dave Farmer III. Committee Structure - Jay Hanke IV. Review SIX model - Mike Horwath V. Other Business/Action Item review from last meeting VI. New Business Location: Grumpy's at 1111 Washington Ave S, Minneapolis, MN (N44.97515 W93.25320) (and I even did my homework, kinda!) -- Mike Horwath ipHouse - Welcome home! drechsau(a)iphouse.net The universe is an island, surrounded by whatever it is that surrounds universes. - Berkeley Fortune ######################################################################## To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1

Sept. 15, 2010

REMINDER September 15th, 2010 at Grumpy's!

by Mike Horwath

See the linkedin group for other details. 3:00pm - I have another engagement so I won't be staying late. I'll be covering the food and drinks (may need help with 'what do we order' - volunteer?) as ipHouse. See you there! -- Mike Horwath ipHouse - Welcome home! drechsau(a)iphouse.net The universe is an island, surrounded by whatever it is that surrounds universes. - Berkeley Fortune ######################################################################## To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1

Sept. 15, 2010

Re: September 15th meeting

by Marc Makarem

On Aug 30, 2010, at 1:11 PM, Mike Horwath wrote: > On Mon, Aug 30, 2010 at 08:53:07AM -0500, Genevieve Ruebel wrote: >> Greetings, >> >> I would like to attend the meeting on September 15th If possible I would also like to attend the meeting on the 15th. -- Marc Makarem -- ipHouse Account Executive http://www.iphouse.com/ -- 612.337.6204 ######################################################################## To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1

Aug. 30, 2010

Re: September 15th meeting

by Mike Horwath

On Mon, Aug 30, 2010 at 08:53:07AM -0500, Genevieve Ruebel wrote: > Greetings, > > I would like to attend the meeting on September 15th. PERMISSION GRANTED! :) -- Mike Horwath ipHouse - Welcome home! drechsau(a)iphouse.net The universe is an island, surrounded by whatever it is that surrounds universes. - Berkeley Fortune ######################################################################## To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1

Aug. 30, 2010

September 15th meeting

by Genevieve Ruebel

Greetings, I would like to attend the meeting on September 15th. Thanks! -- Genevieve Ruebel -- ipHouse Account Manager http://www.iphouse.com/ -- 612.337.6202 ######################################################################## To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1

Aug. 30, 2010

Re: Sept 15 User Group Meeting

by Mike Horwath

On Tue, Aug 17, 2010 at 12:40:12PM -0500, Jay Hanke wrote: > IV. Review SIX model - Mike Horwath I better get to work eh? :) -- Mike Horwath ipHouse - Welcome home! drechsau(a)iphouse.net The universe is an island, surrounded by whatever it is that surrounds universes. - Berkeley Fortune ######################################################################## To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1

Aug. 17, 2010

Sept 15 User Group Meeting

by Jay Hanke

We're confirmed at Grumpy's for a User Group meeting on September 15 at 3 PM. Please RSVP back to me so we can get a rough count of attendees. Agenda: I. Address Space Report - Dave Farmer II. Proposed Infrastructure - Dave Farmer III. Committee Structure - Jay Hanke IV. Review SIX model - Mike Horwath V. Other Business/Action Item review from last meeting Location: Grumpy's at 1111 Washington Ave S, Minneapolis, MN Host: ipHouse (Thanks Mike!) Thanks, -- Jay Hanke CTO, CCIE #19093 Mankato Networks LLC 320 East Liberty Street Mankato, MN 56001-3838 Google 530-618-2398 jayhanke(a)mankatonetworks.net http://www.mankatonetworks.com ######################################################################## To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1

Aug. 17, 2010

Re: MICE Website Domain Names

by Jay Hanke

On Mon, Aug 9, 2010 at 8:23 PM, Steve Howard <showard(a)paulbunyan.net> wrote: > Jay, > > Sure. Would you get the contact person my e-mail or get theirs to me. > FYI: we have the following domain names: micemn.com, micemn.net, micemn.org > > Graphics are ready. The files total about 7MB. I'll e-mail them to > anybody who would like them... Just send me an e-mail and let me know. Send me a copy and I'll stick the logos on the linkedin group. I'll poke around and see if I can find the right contact info. I was hoping you had a chance to hook up after the last meeting. ######################################################################## To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1

Aug. 10, 2010

Re: MICE Website Domain Names

by Steve Howard

Jay, Sure. Would you get the contact person my e-mail or get theirs to me. FYI: we have the following domain names: micemn.com, micemn.net, micemn.org Graphics are ready. The files total about 7MB. I'll e-mail them to anybody who would like them... Just send me an e-mail and let me know. Thanks, Steve On 8/9/2010 3:40 PM, Jay Hanke wrote: > Steve- If you haven't already, can you coordinate DNS with > enginehosting so they can get the content management system set up for > the MICE website? > > Also, let us know when the graphics are ready to go. > > All, if someone would like to step up and get the ball rolling for > some basic content on the website it would be great! > > Thanks, > > Jay > > ######################################################################## > > To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: > http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1 > > > ######################################################################## To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1

Aug. 10, 2010

MICE Website Domain Names

by Jay Hanke

Steve- If you haven't already, can you coordinate DNS with enginehosting so they can get the content management system set up for the MICE website? Also, let us know when the graphics are ready to go. All, if someone would like to step up and get the ball rolling for some basic content on the website it would be great! Thanks, Jay ######################################################################## To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1

Aug. 9, 2010

Re: Fiber switch for CNS space

by Jay Hanke

On Mon, Aug 9, 2010 at 1:30 PM, Steve Howard <showard(a)paulbunyan.net> wrote: > CNS will provide the TwinGig "carrier" modules. > > I hadn't given the cross-connect much thought. I suspect that CNS would > be willing to pay for one cross connect. That seems like it would be > fair since everybody else has to pay for a cross connect also. Does > that model of copper switch support a small number of fiber connections > so that we can use fiber to connect to it? I'm not sure that the make and model of the switch in the core has been 100% determined. I think all of the options had a couple of fiber ports available. There were a couple of questions on required sup cards in the 4500 for 10G and also on the physical size of the 4500. ######################################################################## To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1

Aug. 9, 2010

Re: Fiber switch for CNS space

by Steve Howard

CNS will provide the TwinGig "carrier" modules. I hadn't given the cross-connect much thought. I suspect that CNS would be willing to pay for one cross connect. That seems like it would be fair since everybody else has to pay for a cross connect also. Does that model of copper switch support a small number of fiber connections so that we can use fiber to connect to it? Thanks, Steve On 8/9/2010 10:45 AM, Jay Hanke wrote: >> I'm not sure what you mean by the "carrier optic"? Do you mean the >> cross-connect from FWR? If so, we would expect the participant to >> provide that. Or, do you mean the connection to the copper MICE switch? >> >> Thanks, >> Steve >> > I was referring to the X2 SFP Carrier module that gets installed with > the two SFP ports. I didn't think about the connection to the copper > MICE switch but that is a good point as well. What are your thoughts > on the MICE x-conn? > > jay > > ######################################################################## > > To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: > http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1 > > > ######################################################################## To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1

Aug. 9, 2010

Re: Fiber switch for CNS space

by Jay Hanke

> I'm not sure what you mean by the "carrier optic"? Do you mean the > cross-connect from FWR? If so, we would expect the participant to > provide that. Or, do you mean the connection to the copper MICE switch? > > Thanks, > Steve I was referring to the X2 SFP Carrier module that gets installed with the two SFP ports. I didn't think about the connection to the copper MICE switch but that is a good point as well. What are your thoughts on the MICE x-conn? jay ######################################################################## To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1

Aug. 9, 2010

Re: Fiber switch for CNS space

by Steve Howard

CNS would provide the SFPs for the Gig connections. However, we would ask the participants who request 10Gig to provide the X2 optics. We'll provide 10Gig modules for CNS and the State of Minnesota. I'm not sure what you mean by the "carrier optic"? Do you mean the cross-connect from FWR? If so, we would expect the participant to provide that. Or, do you mean the connection to the copper MICE switch? Thanks, Steve On 8/9/2010 10:00 AM, Jay Hanke wrote: > On Fri, Aug 6, 2010 at 1:08 PM, Steve Howard <showard(a)paulbunyan.net> wrote: > >> Hello, >> >> We are thinking about purchasing a Cisco Catalyst 3560-E 3560E-12D >> switch for the fiber switch for the MICE project. >> >> It has 12 x 10Gig ports. The 10 Gig ports support the TwinGig adapter >> which can be used to convert a 10Gig port to 2 x 1Gig (SFP). That >> should give us plenty of fiber connection options (for now). We use >> these at various locations and they have worked out pretty well (other >> than the silly 1000 multicast route limitation). >> >> Any thoughts or concerns with this switch? >> >> Thanks, >> Steve >> >> > In the initial discussions the connection process has been laid out as > the connecting party would provide the appropriate optic for > interconnection. For a GE link on that switch it may require two > optics the carrier optic and the SFP themselves. Would the carrier > modules be provided or would the participants need to provide those? > > jay > > ######################################################################## > > To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: > http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1 > > > ######################################################################## To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1

Aug. 9, 2010

Re: Fiber switch for CNS space

by Jay Hanke

On Fri, Aug 6, 2010 at 1:08 PM, Steve Howard <showard(a)paulbunyan.net> wrote: > Hello, > > We are thinking about purchasing a Cisco Catalyst 3560-E 3560E-12D > switch for the fiber switch for the MICE project. > > It has 12 x 10Gig ports. The 10 Gig ports support the TwinGig adapter > which can be used to convert a 10Gig port to 2 x 1Gig (SFP). That > should give us plenty of fiber connection options (for now). We use > these at various locations and they have worked out pretty well (other > than the silly 1000 multicast route limitation). > > Any thoughts or concerns with this switch? > > Thanks, > Steve > In the initial discussions the connection process has been laid out as the connecting party would provide the appropriate optic for interconnection. For a GE link on that switch it may require two optics the carrier optic and the SFP themselves. Would the carrier modules be provided or would the participants need to provide those? jay ######################################################################## To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1

Aug. 9, 2010

Fiber switch for CNS space

by Steve Howard

Hello, We are thinking about purchasing a Cisco Catalyst 3560-E 3560E-12D switch for the fiber switch for the MICE project. It has 12 x 10Gig ports. The 10 Gig ports support the TwinGig adapter which can be used to convert a 10Gig port to 2 x 1Gig (SFP). That should give us plenty of fiber connection options (for now). We use these at various locations and they have worked out pretty well (other than the silly 1000 multicast route limitation). Any thoughts or concerns with this switch? Thanks, Steve ######################################################################## To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1

Aug. 6, 2010

Welcome everyone!

by Mike Horwath

Hiya and welcome to the mailing lists! Not much happening YET. Dan, Jay, and I will be meeting soon (possibly tomorrow, still working out schedules) and I think we are having the next big meeting around September 15th, 2010 but I don't think a venue has been aquired yet. Need space for 15-20 people (minimum, there are new people who now know of this group that didn't before), and refreshments of course. Mike of FWR took care of us last time (thanks pal!) over at Grumpy's. Other ideas? I am all down for Grumpy's again if someone can reserve the room for us once more time (cause I suck at that) - it worked out pretty well, and there is a staage we could easily abuse if we have enough people to warrant it. And unless someone in my office barks, I'll cover this round of the event via ipHouse. -- Mike Horwath ipHouse - Welcome home! drechsau(a)iphouse.net The universe is an island, surrounded by whatever it is that surrounds universes. - Berkeley Fortune ######################################################################## To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1

Aug. 2, 2010

Re: MICE Meeting Notes

by Mike Horwath

> &*TICKET_URL(MICE-DISCUSS,SIGNOFF); Hmm...2 items, first need to figure out which template is broken. Second: [Company Name] is EngineHosting via enginehosting.com. Volunteered CMS software and hosting (or we'll do the hosting at ipHouse), and offered up Dell 2950 for route server (possibly 2). Thanks for the summary! -- Mike Horwath drechsau(a)iphouse.net The universe is an island, surrounded by whatever it is that surrounds universes. - Berkely Fortune ######################################################################## To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: &*TICKET_URL(MICE-DISCUSS,SIGNOFF);

July 31, 2010

MICE Meeting Notes

by Jay Hanke

We had a great first MICE meeting last night at Grumpys. Special thanks to Mike Hemphill at FWR for lining up the venue and refreshments! Here's a brief summary of the meeting: -Created a 3 person steering committee, initial appointees will have 1, 2 or 3 year terms. Replacements will all be 3 year terms. Steering committee members cannot serve consecutive terms. -Appointed Dave Farmer, Mike Horwath and Jay Hanke as initial steering committee members -Decided on a logo (the blue one), one vote for the back side of the paper -ipHouse to create a mailing list, details to be posted to the group shortly -CNS/Paul Bunyan to donate/make available switching hardware to be located in their cage -ipHouse to donate/make available Cisco 4500 Ethernet switch for placement in FWR space -Participants will have option to connect to either or both of the switches -[Company name] to donate/make available two Dell 2950 servers for route servers to be located alongside the switches. Group decided against using Cisco 2950 for route servers. -[Company name]/ipHouse to figure something out for a website -Group decided to explore ARIN costs for ASN and initial IP allocation, Dave Farmer to come back with costs. -Avant Garde will talk look into formation of a non profit entity and will solicit someone to assist with a member control agreement, Jaguar can also assist in entity formation if needed. -Agreed to create Tech committees or working groups to divide up the work of getting the exchange going. -Plan to meet as a group on or around September 15th, we need a venue, if someone can make a room available for 15-25 people please contact one of the steering committee members. -Steering Committee will meet week of Aug 2 and come up with an agenda for Sept 15 Meeting My notes weren't very complete, so if you have additions or corrections please post them! Thanks! Jay ######################################################################## To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: &*TICKET_URL(MICE-DISCUSS,SIGNOFF);

July 31, 2010