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Re: Fiber switch for CNS space

by Jay Hanke

On Mon, Aug 9, 2010 at 1:30 PM, Steve Howard <showard(a)paulbunyan.net> wrote: > CNS will provide the TwinGig "carrier" modules. > > I hadn't given the cross-connect much thought. I suspect that CNS would > be willing to pay for one cross connect. That seems like it would be > fair since everybody else has to pay for a cross connect also. Does > that model of copper switch support a small number of fiber connections > so that we can use fiber to connect to it? I'm not sure that the make and model of the switch in the core has been 100% determined. I think all of the options had a couple of fiber ports available. There were a couple of questions on required sup cards in the 4500 for 10G and also on the physical size of the 4500. ######################################################################## To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1

Aug. 9, 2010

Re: Fiber switch for CNS space

by Steve Howard

CNS will provide the TwinGig "carrier" modules. I hadn't given the cross-connect much thought. I suspect that CNS would be willing to pay for one cross connect. That seems like it would be fair since everybody else has to pay for a cross connect also. Does that model of copper switch support a small number of fiber connections so that we can use fiber to connect to it? Thanks, Steve On 8/9/2010 10:45 AM, Jay Hanke wrote: >> I'm not sure what you mean by the "carrier optic"? Do you mean the >> cross-connect from FWR? If so, we would expect the participant to >> provide that. Or, do you mean the connection to the copper MICE switch? >> >> Thanks, >> Steve >> > I was referring to the X2 SFP Carrier module that gets installed with > the two SFP ports. I didn't think about the connection to the copper > MICE switch but that is a good point as well. What are your thoughts > on the MICE x-conn? > > jay > > ######################################################################## > > To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: > http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1 > > > ######################################################################## To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1

Aug. 9, 2010

Re: Fiber switch for CNS space

by Jay Hanke

> I'm not sure what you mean by the "carrier optic"? Do you mean the > cross-connect from FWR? If so, we would expect the participant to > provide that. Or, do you mean the connection to the copper MICE switch? > > Thanks, > Steve I was referring to the X2 SFP Carrier module that gets installed with the two SFP ports. I didn't think about the connection to the copper MICE switch but that is a good point as well. What are your thoughts on the MICE x-conn? jay ######################################################################## To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1

Aug. 9, 2010

Re: Fiber switch for CNS space

by Steve Howard

CNS would provide the SFPs for the Gig connections. However, we would ask the participants who request 10Gig to provide the X2 optics. We'll provide 10Gig modules for CNS and the State of Minnesota. I'm not sure what you mean by the "carrier optic"? Do you mean the cross-connect from FWR? If so, we would expect the participant to provide that. Or, do you mean the connection to the copper MICE switch? Thanks, Steve On 8/9/2010 10:00 AM, Jay Hanke wrote: > On Fri, Aug 6, 2010 at 1:08 PM, Steve Howard <showard(a)paulbunyan.net> wrote: > >> Hello, >> >> We are thinking about purchasing a Cisco Catalyst 3560-E 3560E-12D >> switch for the fiber switch for the MICE project. >> >> It has 12 x 10Gig ports. The 10 Gig ports support the TwinGig adapter >> which can be used to convert a 10Gig port to 2 x 1Gig (SFP). That >> should give us plenty of fiber connection options (for now). We use >> these at various locations and they have worked out pretty well (other >> than the silly 1000 multicast route limitation). >> >> Any thoughts or concerns with this switch? >> >> Thanks, >> Steve >> >> > In the initial discussions the connection process has been laid out as > the connecting party would provide the appropriate optic for > interconnection. For a GE link on that switch it may require two > optics the carrier optic and the SFP themselves. Would the carrier > modules be provided or would the participants need to provide those? > > jay > > ######################################################################## > > To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: > http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1 > > > ######################################################################## To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1

Aug. 9, 2010

Re: Fiber switch for CNS space

by Jay Hanke

On Fri, Aug 6, 2010 at 1:08 PM, Steve Howard <showard(a)paulbunyan.net> wrote: > Hello, > > We are thinking about purchasing a Cisco Catalyst 3560-E 3560E-12D > switch for the fiber switch for the MICE project. > > It has 12 x 10Gig ports. The 10 Gig ports support the TwinGig adapter > which can be used to convert a 10Gig port to 2 x 1Gig (SFP). That > should give us plenty of fiber connection options (for now). We use > these at various locations and they have worked out pretty well (other > than the silly 1000 multicast route limitation). > > Any thoughts or concerns with this switch? > > Thanks, > Steve > In the initial discussions the connection process has been laid out as the connecting party would provide the appropriate optic for interconnection. For a GE link on that switch it may require two optics the carrier optic and the SFP themselves. Would the carrier modules be provided or would the participants need to provide those? jay ######################################################################## To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1

Aug. 9, 2010

Fiber switch for CNS space

by Steve Howard

Hello, We are thinking about purchasing a Cisco Catalyst 3560-E 3560E-12D switch for the fiber switch for the MICE project. It has 12 x 10Gig ports. The 10 Gig ports support the TwinGig adapter which can be used to convert a 10Gig port to 2 x 1Gig (SFP). That should give us plenty of fiber connection options (for now). We use these at various locations and they have worked out pretty well (other than the silly 1000 multicast route limitation). Any thoughts or concerns with this switch? Thanks, Steve ######################################################################## To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1

Aug. 6, 2010

Welcome everyone!

by Mike Horwath

Hiya and welcome to the mailing lists! Not much happening YET. Dan, Jay, and I will be meeting soon (possibly tomorrow, still working out schedules) and I think we are having the next big meeting around September 15th, 2010 but I don't think a venue has been aquired yet. Need space for 15-20 people (minimum, there are new people who now know of this group that didn't before), and refreshments of course. Mike of FWR took care of us last time (thanks pal!) over at Grumpy's. Other ideas? I am all down for Grumpy's again if someone can reserve the room for us once more time (cause I suck at that) - it worked out pretty well, and there is a staage we could easily abuse if we have enough people to warrant it. And unless someone in my office barks, I'll cover this round of the event via ipHouse. -- Mike Horwath ipHouse - Welcome home! drechsau(a)iphouse.net The universe is an island, surrounded by whatever it is that surrounds universes. - Berkeley Fortune ######################################################################## To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1

Aug. 2, 2010

Re: MICE Meeting Notes

by Mike Horwath

> &*TICKET_URL(MICE-DISCUSS,SIGNOFF); Hmm...2 items, first need to figure out which template is broken. Second: [Company Name] is EngineHosting via enginehosting.com. Volunteered CMS software and hosting (or we'll do the hosting at ipHouse), and offered up Dell 2950 for route server (possibly 2). Thanks for the summary! -- Mike Horwath drechsau(a)iphouse.net The universe is an island, surrounded by whatever it is that surrounds universes. - Berkely Fortune ######################################################################## To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: &*TICKET_URL(MICE-DISCUSS,SIGNOFF);

July 31, 2010

MICE Meeting Notes

by Jay Hanke

We had a great first MICE meeting last night at Grumpys. Special thanks to Mike Hemphill at FWR for lining up the venue and refreshments! Here's a brief summary of the meeting: -Created a 3 person steering committee, initial appointees will have 1, 2 or 3 year terms. Replacements will all be 3 year terms. Steering committee members cannot serve consecutive terms. -Appointed Dave Farmer, Mike Horwath and Jay Hanke as initial steering committee members -Decided on a logo (the blue one), one vote for the back side of the paper -ipHouse to create a mailing list, details to be posted to the group shortly -CNS/Paul Bunyan to donate/make available switching hardware to be located in their cage -ipHouse to donate/make available Cisco 4500 Ethernet switch for placement in FWR space -Participants will have option to connect to either or both of the switches -[Company name] to donate/make available two Dell 2950 servers for route servers to be located alongside the switches. Group decided against using Cisco 2950 for route servers. -[Company name]/ipHouse to figure something out for a website -Group decided to explore ARIN costs for ASN and initial IP allocation, Dave Farmer to come back with costs. -Avant Garde will talk look into formation of a non profit entity and will solicit someone to assist with a member control agreement, Jaguar can also assist in entity formation if needed. -Agreed to create Tech committees or working groups to divide up the work of getting the exchange going. -Plan to meet as a group on or around September 15th, we need a venue, if someone can make a room available for 15-25 people please contact one of the steering committee members. -Steering Committee will meet week of Aug 2 and come up with an agenda for Sept 15 Meeting My notes weren't very complete, so if you have additions or corrections please post them! Thanks! Jay ######################################################################## To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: &*TICKET_URL(MICE-DISCUSS,SIGNOFF);

July 31, 2010