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MICE UG

by Jay Hanke

Mike/Dave- Any objection to scheduling the next MICE UG for Wednesday March 30, 2011 at 3 PM? I'm thinking we would use TIES again if they're cool with that. I'll be up for the ILEC annual convention (i'm in the Juniper booth) -- Jay Hanke CTO, CCIE #19093 Mankato Networks LLC 320 East Liberty Street Mankato, MN 56001-3838 Google 530-618-2398 jayhanke(a)mankatonetworks.net http://www.mankatonetworks.com ######################################################################## To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1

Feb. 28, 2011

Re: Meeting Sponser

by Jay Hanke

>>How about scheduling around MTA > > Mail Transport Agent? > > Help? Minnesota Telephone Association -- Jay Hanke CTO, CCIE #19093 Mankato Networks LLC 320 East Liberty Street Mankato, MN 56001-3838 Google 530-618-2398 jayhanke(a)mankatonetworks.net http://www.mankatonetworks.com ######################################################################## To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1

Feb. 10, 2011

Re: Meeting Sponser

by Steve Howard

Good guess! But in this case, it is the Minnesota Telecom Alliance Annual Convention http://www.mnta.org/displaycommon.cfm?an=1&subarticlenbr=21 On 02/10/2011 11:35 AM, Mike Horwath wrote: > On 2/10/11 9:57 AM, "Dan Olsen" <dano(a)WINDOMNET.COM> wrote: > >> How about scheduling around MTA > Mail Transport Agent? > > Help? > ######################################################################## To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1

Feb. 10, 2011

Re: Meeting Sponser

by Mike Horwath

On 2/10/11 9:57 AM, "Dan Olsen" <dano(a)WINDOMNET.COM> wrote: >How about scheduling around MTA Mail Transport Agent? Help? -- Mike Horwath ipHouse - Welcome home! drechsau(a)iphouse.net The universe is an island, surrounded by whatever it is that surrounds universes. - Berkeley Fortune ######################################################################## To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1

Feb. 10, 2011

Re: Meeting Sponser

by Jay Hanke

On Thu, Feb 10, 2011 at 9:57 AM, Dan Olsen <dano(a)windomnet.com> wrote: > How about scheduling around MTA I took a quick look at the MTA schedule. The convention wraps up on the Wed 30th at noon. People might be pretty shot after a couple of days in the big city. What are the user group meetings on Monday could we schedule the UG for Monday afternoon (March 28)? Here is the link: http://www.mnta.org/displaycommon.cfm?an=1&subarticlenbr=135 jay ######################################################################## To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1

Feb. 10, 2011

Re: Meeting Sponser

by Tom Drill

As the host of that meeting I thought it went well/good. That is a very good Venue. The last meeting was not as well attended but we had more new faces was made quality contributions. On Thu, Feb 10, 2011 at 9:57 AM, Jay Hanke <jayhanke(a)mankatonetworks.net>wrote: > On Thu, Feb 10, 2011 at 9:49 AM, Mike Horwath <drechsau(a)iphouse.net> > wrote: > > I'll check on sponsorship. > > > > Venue? > > > > I liked the meeting room at TIES last time. I had to leave before the > social. Did that go pretty well? > > -- > Jay Hanke > CTO, CCIE #19093 > Mankato Networks LLC > 320 East Liberty Street > Mankato, MN 56001-3838 > Google 530-618-2398 > jayhanke(a)mankatonetworks.net > http://www.mankatonetworks.com > > ######################################################################## > > To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: > http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1 > -- MyTELEPATH | Tom Drill tdrill(a)mytelepath.com 11970 Portland Ave. Burnsville, MN 55337 952-400-6004 ######################################################################## To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1

Feb. 10, 2011

Re: Meeting Sponser

by Jay Hanke

On Thu, Feb 10, 2011 at 9:49 AM, Mike Horwath <drechsau(a)iphouse.net> wrote: > I'll check on sponsorship. > > Venue? > I liked the meeting room at TIES last time. I had to leave before the social. Did that go pretty well? -- Jay Hanke CTO, CCIE #19093 Mankato Networks LLC 320 East Liberty Street Mankato, MN 56001-3838 Google 530-618-2398 jayhanke(a)mankatonetworks.net http://www.mankatonetworks.com ######################################################################## To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1

Feb. 10, 2011

Re: Meeting Sponser

by Dan Olsen

How about scheduling around MTA ------Original Message------ From: Mike Horwath Sender: MICE Discuss To: MICE-DISCUSS(a)LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET ReplyTo: MICE Discuss Subject: Re: [MICE-DISCUSS] Meeting Sponser Sent: Feb 10, 2011 9:49 AM I'll check on sponsorship. Venue? -- Mike Horwath via iPad ######################################################################## To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1 Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry ######################################################################## To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1

Feb. 10, 2011

Re: Meeting Sponser

by Mike Horwath

I'll check on sponsorship. Venue? -- Mike Horwath via iPad ######################################################################## To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1

Feb. 10, 2011

Re: 511 Photo

by Mike Hemphill

I can get one for you tomorrow Sent from my Samsung Epic™ 4G Jay Hanke <jayhanke(a)MANKATONETWORKS.NET> wrote: >Does anyone have a photo of the MICE equipment? > >-- >Jay Hanke >CTO, CCIE #19093 >Mankato Networks LLC >320 East Liberty Street >Mankato, MN 56001-3838 >Google 530-618-2398 >jayhanke(a)mankatonetworks.net >http://www.mankatonetworks.com > >######################################################################## > >To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: >http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1 > ######################################################################## To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1

Feb. 10, 2011

Re: 511 Photo

by Steve Howard

Jay, Sorry. I should have grabbed a picture last time I was there. I've attached a picture of the fiber switch... Lots of empty ports. :-( Thanks, Steve On 02/09/2011 05:41 PM, Jay Hanke wrote: > Does anyone have a photo of the MICE equipment? > ######################################################################## To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1

Feb. 10, 2011

511 Photo

by Jay Hanke

Does anyone have a photo of the MICE equipment? -- Jay Hanke CTO, CCIE #19093 Mankato Networks LLC 320 East Liberty Street Mankato, MN 56001-3838 Google 530-618-2398 jayhanke(a)mankatonetworks.net http://www.mankatonetworks.com ######################################################################## To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1

Feb. 9, 2011

Meeting Sponser

by Jay Hanke

Is anyone interested in sponsoring the next meeting? The meeting will be held Springish but not too late Springish. I also propose that we scrap the video conferencing in favor of a webex with a conference bridge. -- Jay Hanke CTO, CCIE #19093 Mankato Networks LLC 320 East Liberty Street Mankato, MN 56001-3838 Google 530-618-2398 jayhanke(a)mankatonetworks.net http://www.mankatonetworks.com ######################################################################## To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1

Feb. 9, 2011

Re: interest in a local ISOC chapter

by Jay Hanke

> if there's interest i'd be happy to get the ball rolling and present something. > If there's interest maybe a quick presentation at the next MICE UG? I'd be interested in learning something about it. We've been tossing around the idea of having a "guest" speaker at the UG meetings. -- Jay Hanke CTO, CCIE #19093 Mankato Networks LLC 320 East Liberty Street Mankato, MN 56001-3838 Google 530-618-2398 jayhanke(a)mankatonetworks.net http://www.mankatonetworks.com ######################################################################## To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1

Feb. 9, 2011

Re: interest in a local ISOC chapter

by Mike O'Connor

i'm in. i'm really active in ICANN and would love to hang out with IETF and NANOG type people… On Feb 9, 2011, at 3:09 PM, steve ulrich wrote: > i won't bother to plumb the depths of the linkedin discussion system. > mailing lists seem like a much better way to poke at this topic ... > > by way of testing the waters here. there are active ISOC chapters in > a few cities around the country and we seem to be lacking in this > regard. is there reasonable interest within this group (and i'll poll > the other usual internet curious haunts as well, tclug, etc.) for the > creation of a local ISOC chapter? > > this was on the 2010 todo list and it got pushed into 2011. NANOG > last week a recent chat w/some folks from the COISOC group kind of > punted it back onto my priority list. > > if there's interest i'd be happy to get the ball rolling and present something. > > -- > steve ulrich (sulrich(a)botwerks.*) > > ######################################################################## > > To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: > http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1 - - - - - - - - - phone 651-647-6109 fax 866-280-2356 web http://www.haven2.com handle OConnorStP (ID for public places like Twitter, Facebook, Google, etc.) ######################################################################## To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1

Feb. 9, 2011

interest in a local ISOC chapter

by steve ulrich

i won't bother to plumb the depths of the linkedin discussion system. mailing lists seem like a much better way to poke at this topic ... by way of testing the waters here. there are active ISOC chapters in a few cities around the country and we seem to be lacking in this regard. is there reasonable interest within this group (and i'll poll the other usual internet curious haunts as well, tclug, etc.) for the creation of a local ISOC chapter? this was on the 2010 todo list and it got pushed into 2011. NANOG last week a recent chat w/some folks from the COISOC group kind of punted it back onto my priority list. if there's interest i'd be happy to get the ball rolling and present something. -- steve ulrich (sulrich(a)botwerks.*) ######################################################################## To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1

Feb. 9, 2011

Re: Jay posted via LinkedIn

by Mike Horwath

On 2/7/11 1:13 PM, "Ryan Goldberg" <RGoldberg(a)COMPUDYNE.NET> wrote: >As an alternative to cacti, this may be a good application for RTG > >http://rtg.sourceforge.net/examples/index.html I already use it for our bytes-transferrred billing. Good stuff, we're doing almost 10K points in ~12 seconds. >Similar, but not quite the complexity of cacti. I'd say it is twice as complex as Cacti because getting graphs back out is all custom work (the example PHP code doesn't work, and as of 0.9, even the parameters for rtgplot are competely wrong). I am a big fan of RTG, but it isn't Cacti in terms of ease of getting things back out. -- Mike Horwath ipHouse - Welcome home! drechsau(a)iphouse.net The universe is an island, surrounded by whatever it is that surrounds universes. - Berkeley Fortune ######################################################################## To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1

Feb. 7, 2011

Re: Jay posted via LinkedIn

by Ryan Goldberg

As an alternative to cacti, this may be a good application for RTG http://rtg.sourceforge.net/examples/index.html Similar, but not quite the complexity of cacti. Ryan On Feb 7, 2011, at 12:43 PM, "Richard Laager" <rlaager(a)WIKTEL.COM> wrote: > On Mon, 2011-02-07 at 12:06 -0600, Andrew Hoyos wrote: >> On Mon, Feb 7, 2011 at 11:40 AM, Mike Horwath <drechsau(a)iphouse.net> wrote: >>>> Also, it's pretty trivial to add DS values from mutiple RRD files, to >>>> create an aggregate graph of the total in/out bits on the switching >>>> fabric. >>> >>> Hackery is hackery and I don't use hackery. > > I'm not sure why you'd think this is hackery. > >> http://docs.cacti.net/plugin:aggregate >> >> Looks like there is a plugin to do the hackery for you :) > > We use the aggregate plugin a little bit, but I think that's about all > it does. In other words, I'm not sure it does anything different than > you could do by hand. > > Richard > > ######################################################################## > > To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: > http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1 ######################################################################## To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1

Feb. 7, 2011

Re: Jay posted via LinkedIn

by Richard Laager

On Mon, 2011-02-07 at 12:06 -0600, Andrew Hoyos wrote: > On Mon, Feb 7, 2011 at 11:40 AM, Mike Horwath <drechsau(a)iphouse.net> wrote: > >>Also, it's pretty trivial to add DS values from mutiple RRD files, to > >>create an aggregate graph of the total in/out bits on the switching > >>fabric. > > > > Hackery is hackery and I don't use hackery. I'm not sure why you'd think this is hackery. > http://docs.cacti.net/plugin:aggregate > > Looks like there is a plugin to do the hackery for you :) We use the aggregate plugin a little bit, but I think that's about all it does. In other words, I'm not sure it does anything different than you could do by hand. Richard ######################################################################## To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1

Feb. 7, 2011

Re: Jay posted via LinkedIn

by Andrew Hoyos

On Mon, Feb 7, 2011 at 11:40 AM, Mike Horwath <drechsau(a)iphouse.net> wrote: >>Also, it's pretty trivial to add DS values from mutiple RRD files, to >>create an aggregate graph of the total in/out bits on the switching >>fabric. > > Hackery is hackery and I don't use hackery. http://docs.cacti.net/plugin:aggregate Looks like there is a plugin to do the hackery for you :) ######################################################################## To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1

Feb. 7, 2011

Re: Jay posted via LinkedIn

by Mike Horwath

On 2/6/11 3:51 PM, "Anthony Anderberg" <anthonyanderberg(a)NU-TELECOM.NET> wrote: >> The MadIX graphs are pretty easily done with some publicly available >> tools and simple interface stats. >> >> Check out network-weathermap: >> http://www.network-weathermap.com/ > >I've used weathermap pretty extensively, I could take >this on as a project along with some kind of aggregate >view as mentioned earlier. Super, let's chat sometime. -- Mike Horwath ipHouse - Welcome home! drechsau(a)iphouse.net The universe is an island, surrounded by whatever it is that surrounds universes. - Berkeley Fortune ######################################################################## To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1

Feb. 7, 2011

Re: Jay posted via LinkedIn

by Mike Horwath

On 2/6/11 2:26 PM, "Andrew Hoyos" <hoyosa(a)GMAIL.COM> wrote: >On Sun, Feb 6, 2011 at 1:58 PM, Mike Horwath <drechsau(a)iphouse.net> wrote: >> On 2/6/11 1:53 PM, "Jay Hanke" <jayhanke(a)MANKATONETWORKS.NET> wrote: >>>I dunno. These graphs are pretty neat from the guys in Madison. >>>http://stats.net.wisc.edu/ >> >> Haha, if only I were an EDU with a ton of cheap labor :) >> >>>>What about aggregate of all data through the switching fabrics? > >The MadIX graphs are pretty easily done with some publicly available >tools and simple interface stats. > >Check out network-weathermap: > http://www.network-weathermap.com/ > >There is a plugin for cacti that allow you to pull in RRD data for use >in the weathermap. Awesome, I'll put on the list. >Also, it's pretty trivial to add DS values from mutiple RRD files, to >create an aggregate graph of the total in/out bits on the switching >fabric. Hackery is hackery and I don't use hackery. -- Mike Horwath ipHouse - Welcome home! drechsau(a)iphouse.net The universe is an island, surrounded by whatever it is that surrounds universes. - Berkeley Fortune ######################################################################## To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1

Feb. 7, 2011

Re: Jay posted via LinkedIn

by Anthony Anderberg

> The MadIX graphs are pretty easily done with some publicly available > tools and simple interface stats. > > Check out network-weathermap: > http://www.network-weathermap.com/ I've used weathermap pretty extensively, I could take this on as a project along with some kind of aggregate view as mentioned earlier. Anthony Anderberg Sr. Systems Analyst NU-Telecom 320-234-5239 anthonyanderberg(a)nu-telecom.net ######################################################################## To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1

Feb. 6, 2011

Re: Jay posted via LinkedIn

by Andrew Hoyos

On Sun, Feb 6, 2011 at 1:58 PM, Mike Horwath <drechsau(a)iphouse.net> wrote: > On 2/6/11 1:53 PM, "Jay Hanke" <jayhanke(a)MANKATONETWORKS.NET> wrote: >>I dunno. These graphs are pretty neat from the guys in Madison. >>http://stats.net.wisc.edu/ > > Haha, if only I were an EDU with a ton of cheap labor :) > >>>What about aggregate of all data through the switching fabrics? The MadIX graphs are pretty easily done with some publicly available tools and simple interface stats. Check out network-weathermap: http://www.network-weathermap.com/ There is a plugin for cacti that allow you to pull in RRD data for use in the weathermap. Also, it's pretty trivial to add DS values from mutiple RRD files, to create an aggregate graph of the total in/out bits on the switching fabric. ######################################################################## To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1

Feb. 6, 2011

Re: Jay posted via LinkedIn

by Jay Hanke

>> >>I dunno. These graphs are pretty neat from the guys in Madison. >>http://stats.net.wisc.edu/ > > Haha, if only I were an EDU with a ton of cheap labor :) <hint>I'd be excited to have an EDU connect to MICE.</hint> ######################################################################## To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1

Feb. 6, 2011