- mice-discuss - lists.micemn.net

interest in a local ISOC chapter

by steve ulrich

i won't bother to plumb the depths of the linkedin discussion system. mailing lists seem like a much better way to poke at this topic ... by way of testing the waters here. there are active ISOC chapters in a few cities around the country and we seem to be lacking in this regard. is there reasonable interest within this group (and i'll poll the other usual internet curious haunts as well, tclug, etc.) for the creation of a local ISOC chapter? this was on the 2010 todo list and it got pushed into 2011. NANOG last week a recent chat w/some folks from the COISOC group kind of punted it back onto my priority list. if there's interest i'd be happy to get the ball rolling and present something. -- steve ulrich (sulrich(a)botwerks.*) ######################################################################## To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1

Feb. 9, 2011

Re: Jay posted via LinkedIn

by Mike Horwath

On 2/7/11 1:13 PM, "Ryan Goldberg" <RGoldberg(a)COMPUDYNE.NET> wrote: >As an alternative to cacti, this may be a good application for RTG > >http://rtg.sourceforge.net/examples/index.html I already use it for our bytes-transferrred billing. Good stuff, we're doing almost 10K points in ~12 seconds. >Similar, but not quite the complexity of cacti. I'd say it is twice as complex as Cacti because getting graphs back out is all custom work (the example PHP code doesn't work, and as of 0.9, even the parameters for rtgplot are competely wrong). I am a big fan of RTG, but it isn't Cacti in terms of ease of getting things back out. -- Mike Horwath ipHouse - Welcome home! drechsau(a)iphouse.net The universe is an island, surrounded by whatever it is that surrounds universes. - Berkeley Fortune ######################################################################## To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1

Feb. 7, 2011

Re: Jay posted via LinkedIn

by Ryan Goldberg

As an alternative to cacti, this may be a good application for RTG http://rtg.sourceforge.net/examples/index.html Similar, but not quite the complexity of cacti. Ryan On Feb 7, 2011, at 12:43 PM, "Richard Laager" <rlaager(a)WIKTEL.COM> wrote: > On Mon, 2011-02-07 at 12:06 -0600, Andrew Hoyos wrote: >> On Mon, Feb 7, 2011 at 11:40 AM, Mike Horwath <drechsau(a)iphouse.net> wrote: >>>> Also, it's pretty trivial to add DS values from mutiple RRD files, to >>>> create an aggregate graph of the total in/out bits on the switching >>>> fabric. >>> >>> Hackery is hackery and I don't use hackery. > > I'm not sure why you'd think this is hackery. > >> http://docs.cacti.net/plugin:aggregate >> >> Looks like there is a plugin to do the hackery for you :) > > We use the aggregate plugin a little bit, but I think that's about all > it does. In other words, I'm not sure it does anything different than > you could do by hand. > > Richard > > ######################################################################## > > To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: > http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1 ######################################################################## To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1

Feb. 7, 2011

Re: Jay posted via LinkedIn

by Richard Laager

On Mon, 2011-02-07 at 12:06 -0600, Andrew Hoyos wrote: > On Mon, Feb 7, 2011 at 11:40 AM, Mike Horwath <drechsau(a)iphouse.net> wrote: > >>Also, it's pretty trivial to add DS values from mutiple RRD files, to > >>create an aggregate graph of the total in/out bits on the switching > >>fabric. > > > > Hackery is hackery and I don't use hackery. I'm not sure why you'd think this is hackery. > http://docs.cacti.net/plugin:aggregate > > Looks like there is a plugin to do the hackery for you :) We use the aggregate plugin a little bit, but I think that's about all it does. In other words, I'm not sure it does anything different than you could do by hand. Richard ######################################################################## To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1

Feb. 7, 2011

Re: Jay posted via LinkedIn

by Andrew Hoyos

On Mon, Feb 7, 2011 at 11:40 AM, Mike Horwath <drechsau(a)iphouse.net> wrote: >>Also, it's pretty trivial to add DS values from mutiple RRD files, to >>create an aggregate graph of the total in/out bits on the switching >>fabric. > > Hackery is hackery and I don't use hackery. http://docs.cacti.net/plugin:aggregate Looks like there is a plugin to do the hackery for you :) ######################################################################## To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1

Feb. 7, 2011

Re: Jay posted via LinkedIn

by Mike Horwath

On 2/6/11 3:51 PM, "Anthony Anderberg" <anthonyanderberg(a)NU-TELECOM.NET> wrote: >> The MadIX graphs are pretty easily done with some publicly available >> tools and simple interface stats. >> >> Check out network-weathermap: >> http://www.network-weathermap.com/ > >I've used weathermap pretty extensively, I could take >this on as a project along with some kind of aggregate >view as mentioned earlier. Super, let's chat sometime. -- Mike Horwath ipHouse - Welcome home! drechsau(a)iphouse.net The universe is an island, surrounded by whatever it is that surrounds universes. - Berkeley Fortune ######################################################################## To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1

Feb. 7, 2011

Re: Jay posted via LinkedIn

by Mike Horwath

On 2/6/11 2:26 PM, "Andrew Hoyos" <hoyosa(a)GMAIL.COM> wrote: >On Sun, Feb 6, 2011 at 1:58 PM, Mike Horwath <drechsau(a)iphouse.net> wrote: >> On 2/6/11 1:53 PM, "Jay Hanke" <jayhanke(a)MANKATONETWORKS.NET> wrote: >>>I dunno. These graphs are pretty neat from the guys in Madison. >>>http://stats.net.wisc.edu/ >> >> Haha, if only I were an EDU with a ton of cheap labor :) >> >>>>What about aggregate of all data through the switching fabrics? > >The MadIX graphs are pretty easily done with some publicly available >tools and simple interface stats. > >Check out network-weathermap: > http://www.network-weathermap.com/ > >There is a plugin for cacti that allow you to pull in RRD data for use >in the weathermap. Awesome, I'll put on the list. >Also, it's pretty trivial to add DS values from mutiple RRD files, to >create an aggregate graph of the total in/out bits on the switching >fabric. Hackery is hackery and I don't use hackery. -- Mike Horwath ipHouse - Welcome home! drechsau(a)iphouse.net The universe is an island, surrounded by whatever it is that surrounds universes. - Berkeley Fortune ######################################################################## To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1

Feb. 7, 2011

Re: Jay posted via LinkedIn

by Anthony Anderberg

> The MadIX graphs are pretty easily done with some publicly available > tools and simple interface stats. > > Check out network-weathermap: > http://www.network-weathermap.com/ I've used weathermap pretty extensively, I could take this on as a project along with some kind of aggregate view as mentioned earlier. Anthony Anderberg Sr. Systems Analyst NU-Telecom 320-234-5239 anthonyanderberg(a)nu-telecom.net ######################################################################## To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1

Feb. 6, 2011

Re: Jay posted via LinkedIn

by Andrew Hoyos

On Sun, Feb 6, 2011 at 1:58 PM, Mike Horwath <drechsau(a)iphouse.net> wrote: > On 2/6/11 1:53 PM, "Jay Hanke" <jayhanke(a)MANKATONETWORKS.NET> wrote: >>I dunno. These graphs are pretty neat from the guys in Madison. >>http://stats.net.wisc.edu/ > > Haha, if only I were an EDU with a ton of cheap labor :) > >>>What about aggregate of all data through the switching fabrics? The MadIX graphs are pretty easily done with some publicly available tools and simple interface stats. Check out network-weathermap: http://www.network-weathermap.com/ There is a plugin for cacti that allow you to pull in RRD data for use in the weathermap. Also, it's pretty trivial to add DS values from mutiple RRD files, to create an aggregate graph of the total in/out bits on the switching fabric. ######################################################################## To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1

Feb. 6, 2011

Re: Jay posted via LinkedIn

by Jay Hanke

>> >>I dunno. These graphs are pretty neat from the guys in Madison. >>http://stats.net.wisc.edu/ > > Haha, if only I were an EDU with a ton of cheap labor :) <hint>I'd be excited to have an EDU connect to MICE.</hint> ######################################################################## To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1

Feb. 6, 2011

Re: Jay posted via LinkedIn

by Mike Horwath

On 2/6/11 1:53 PM, "Jay Hanke" <jayhanke(a)MANKATONETWORKS.NET> wrote: >>>What does everyone think about putting a twitter feed on the website? >>>It looks like there is a widget that will automatically do it. >> >> That's fine, which feeds are gonna be put there > >I was thinking member companies and people who have been active in >meetings. If there isn't more that a couple it's likely not >worthwhile. > >I'm still figuring out the twitter thing. > >> >>>Also, should we embed the traffic graphs on the participants page? >> >> Do the participants want their details shared there? > >I dunno. These graphs are pretty neat from the guys in Madison. >http://stats.net.wisc.edu/ Haha, if only I were an EDU with a ton of cheap labor :) >>What about aggregate of all data through the switching fabrics? >> > >We should do this if cacti can support it, even if it is just the "main" >switch. Cacti doesn't I don't think - at least without creating a completely custom solution. I'd need to use RTG. -- Mike Horwath ipHouse - Welcome home! drechsau(a)iphouse.net The universe is an island, surrounded by whatever it is that surrounds universes. - Berkeley Fortune ######################################################################## To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1

Feb. 6, 2011

Re: Jay posted via LinkedIn

by Jay Hanke

>>What does everyone think about putting a twitter feed on the website? >>It looks like there is a widget that will automatically do it. > > That's fine, which feeds are gonna be put there I was thinking member companies and people who have been active in meetings. If there isn't more that a couple it's likely not worthwhile. I'm still figuring out the twitter thing. > >>Also, should we embed the traffic graphs on the participants page? > > Do the participants want their details shared there? I dunno. These graphs are pretty neat from the guys in Madison. http://stats.net.wisc.edu/ > > What about aggregate of all data through the switching fabrics? > We should do this if cacti can support it, even if it is just the "main" switch. -- Jay Hanke CTO, CCIE #19093 Mankato Networks LLC 320 East Liberty Street Mankato, MN 56001-3838 Google 530-618-2398 jayhanke(a)mankatonetworks.net http://www.mankatonetworks.com ######################################################################## To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1

Feb. 6, 2011

Re: Jay posted via LinkedIn

by Mike Horwath

On 2/6/11 12:53 PM, "Jay Hanke" <jayhanke(a)MANKATONETWORKS.NET> wrote: >> (copied here for others who may not be trying to figure out the LinkedIn >> discussion system) > >What does everyone think about putting a twitter feed on the website? >It looks like there is a widget that will automatically do it. That's fine, which feeds are gonna be put there? >Also, should we embed the traffic graphs on the participants page? Do the participants want their details shared there? What about aggregate of all data through the switching fabrics? -- Mike Horwath ipHouse - Welcome home! drechsau(a)iphouse.net The universe is an island, surrounded by whatever it is that surrounds universes. - Berkeley Fortune ######################################################################## To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1

Feb. 6, 2011

Re: Jay posted via LinkedIn

by Jay Hanke

> (copied here for others who may not be trying to figure out the LinkedIn > discussion system) What does everyone think about putting a twitter feed on the website? It looks like there is a widget that will automatically do it. Also, should we embed the traffic graphs on the participants page? Jay Hanke CTO, CCIE #19093 Mankato Networks LLC 320 East Liberty Street Mankato, MN 56001-3838 Google 530-618-2398 jayhanke(a)mankatonetworks.net http://www.mankatonetworks.com ######################################################################## To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1

Feb. 6, 2011

Jay posted via LinkedIn

by Mike Horwath

http://linkd.in/hQaFfR Content providers are planning to open the ³front door² to IPv6 for a worldwide test. Please check http://test-ipv6.com/ and post your results and which carrier your on! (copied here for others who may not be trying to figure out the LinkedIn discussion system) -- Mike Horwath ipHouse - Welcome home! drechsau(a)iphouse.net The universe is an island, surrounded by whatever it is that surrounds universes. - Berkeley Fortune ######################################################################## To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1

Feb. 6, 2011

SWIP of 69.147.218.0/24

by Andrew Hoyos

Just noticed, WIN/Airstream folks, would it be possible to get this space SWIP'd to properly reflect that it is being used for MICE? Also, is WIN/Airstream going to provide reverse DNS for the space? Or is there MICE server(s) that could host the in-addr.arpa zones for 69.147.218.0/24? Thanks! Andrew -- Andrew Hoyos Hoyos Consulting LLC ofc: +1 608 616 9950 andrew(a)hoyosconsulting.com www.hoyosconsulting.com ######################################################################## To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1

Feb. 1, 2011

Re: Blogs

by Mike Horwath

On 1/24/11 4:19 PM, "Jay Hanke" <jayhanke(a)MANKATONETWORKS.NET> wrote: >>>I'm a web 1.0 guy so I'll go ahead and ask. Is there an easy way to >>>link to Blog posts about the exchange on the MICE homepage? >> >> It is a CMS, should be doable. > >Does that install as a widget on the page or does it replace the page? I'd bet there is a mod or widget to do this. I am not maintaining the website (server or CMS) so I can't answer further. -- Mike Horwath ipHouse - Welcome home! drechsau(a)iphouse.net The universe is an island, surrounded by whatever it is that surrounds universes. - Berkeley Fortune ######################################################################## To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1

Jan. 24, 2011

Re: Blogs

by Jay Hanke

>>I'm a web 1.0 guy so I'll go ahead and ask. Is there an easy way to >>link to Blog posts about the exchange on the MICE homepage? > > It is a CMS, should be doable. Does that install as a widget on the page or does it replace the page? -- Jay Hanke CTO, CCIE #19093 Mankato Networks LLC 320 East Liberty Street Mankato, MN 56001-3838 Google 530-618-2398 jayhanke(a)mankatonetworks.net http://www.mankatonetworks.com ######################################################################## To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1

Jan. 24, 2011

Re: Blogs

by Mike Horwath

On 1/24/11 2:56 PM, "Jay Hanke" <jayhanke(a)MANKATONETWORKS.NET> wrote: >I'm a web 1.0 guy so I'll go ahead and ask. Is there an easy way to >link to Blog posts about the exchange on the MICE homepage? It is a CMS, should be doable. -- Mike Horwath ipHouse - Welcome home! drechsau(a)iphouse.net The universe is an island, surrounded by whatever it is that surrounds universes. - Berkeley Fortune ######################################################################## To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1

Jan. 24, 2011

Blogs

by Jay Hanke

I'm a web 1.0 guy so I'll go ahead and ask. Is there an easy way to link to Blog posts about the exchange on the MICE homepage? -- Jay Hanke CTO, CCIE #19093 Mankato Networks LLC 320 East Liberty Street Mankato, MN 56001-3838 Google 530-618-2398 jayhanke(a)mankatonetworks.net http://www.mankatonetworks.com ######################################################################## To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1

Jan. 24, 2011

Cisco IOS & MICE Router Server's Issue Resolved

by James Montz

Jay found a minor issue with Cisco IOS and the MICE Router Server's (BIRD). As Mike H. pointed out, this was posted to the LinkedIn group, but not the ListServe, so re-posting here. http://mankatonetworks.com/wordpress/?p=14&goback=.gde_3000346_member_41134… <http://mankatonetworks.com/wordpress/?p=14&goback=.gde_3000346_member_41134…> "...the BGP session immediately dropping after establishment... ...Cisco enforces that the peer AS needs to be in the AS_PATH..." --------------------------------------------------- *James C. Montz* Senior Consultant *Mankato Networks LLC* <http://www.mankatonetworks.net/>320 East Liberty Street <http://maps.google.com/maps?q=320+East+Liberty+Street%2CMankato%2CMN+56001&…>Mankato, MN 56001 *Phone:* *(320)-496-6689* *Email: jamesmontz(a)mankatonetworks.net* *Web: http://www.mankatonetworks.net Skype: james.montz* * http://www.linkedin.com/in/jmontz* ######################################################################## To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1

Jan. 24, 2011

Re: FYII: MICE 10Gig Switch

by Jay Hanke

>>Did we come up with a plan? > > Was this a private email you are responding to via the list? I dunno? I thought this whole discussion was on the list. If not, I'm sorry. -- Jay Hanke CTO, CCIE #19093 Mankato Networks LLC 320 East Liberty Street Mankato, MN 56001-3838 Google 530-618-2398 jayhanke(a)mankatonetworks.net http://www.mankatonetworks.com ######################################################################## To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1

Jan. 21, 2011

Re: FYII: MICE 10Gig Switch

by Steve Howard

Jeremy, That sounds great to me. I'd really prefer to use the fiber even though it will cost CNS more monthly for the cross connect. The switch is the top one in the CNS space. It is labeled MICE2. Thanks, Steve On 01/21/2011 02:07 PM, Jeremy Lumby wrote: > I happen to be going down to 511 within the next hour. If you need a remote hand plugging things in, I would be happy to donate, and install a singlemode (1000LX) GBIC. I have both the GBIC, and SFP format with me. Let me know at jlumby(a)mnvoip.com > > On 1/21/11 1:45 PM, "Jay Hanke" <jayhanke(a)MANKATONETWORKS.NET> wrote: > >>> On Wed, Jan 19, 2011 at 3:42 PM, Steve Howard >>> <showard(a)paulbunyan.net> >>> wrote: >>>> Too bad that I didn't leave a fiber SFP down there... I could mail >>>> one down there if somebody could install it (Mike Hemphill?). Does >>>> the MICE #1 switch require SFPs or GBICs? I don't think that I have >>>> any single mode GBICs laying around. >> Did we come up with a plan? > Was this a private email you are responding to via the list? > ######################################################################## To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1

Jan. 21, 2011

Re: FYII: MICE 10Gig Switch

by Jeremy Lumby

I happen to be going down to 511 within the next hour. If you need a remote hand plugging things in, I would be happy to donate, and install a singlemode (1000LX) GBIC. I have both the GBIC, and SFP format with me. Let me know at jlumby(a)mnvoip.com On 1/21/11 1:45 PM, "Jay Hanke" <jayhanke(a)MANKATONETWORKS.NET> wrote: >> On Wed, Jan 19, 2011 at 3:42 PM, Steve Howard >><showard(a)paulbunyan.net> >>wrote: >>> Too bad that I didn't leave a fiber SFP down there... I could mail >>>one down there if somebody could install it (Mike Hemphill?). Does >>>the MICE #1 switch require SFPs or GBICs? I don't think that I have >>>any single mode GBICs laying around. > >Did we come up with a plan? Was this a private email you are responding to via the list? -- Mike Horwath ipHouse - Welcome home! drechsau(a)iphouse.net The universe is an island, surrounded by whatever it is that surrounds universes. - Berkeley Fortune ######################################################################## To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1 ######################################################################## To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1

Jan. 21, 2011

Re: FYII: MICE 10Gig Switch

by Mike Horwath

On 1/21/11 1:45 PM, "Jay Hanke" <jayhanke(a)MANKATONETWORKS.NET> wrote: >> On Wed, Jan 19, 2011 at 3:42 PM, Steve Howard <showard(a)paulbunyan.net> >>wrote: >>> Too bad that I didn't leave a fiber SFP down there... I could mail >>>one down >>> there if somebody could install it (Mike Hemphill?). Does the MICE #1 >>> switch require SFPs or GBICs? I don't think that I have any single >>>mode >>> GBICs laying around. > >Did we come up with a plan? Was this a private email you are responding to via the list? -- Mike Horwath ipHouse - Welcome home! drechsau(a)iphouse.net The universe is an island, surrounded by whatever it is that surrounds universes. - Berkeley Fortune ######################################################################## To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1

Jan. 21, 2011