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Re: Mice routes via Northern Lights GigaPoP

by Jay Hanke

> I'm back in the office next week and I'll try to get around to contacting > Zayo. Probably later in the week, as I know I'm going to have a bunch of > stuff waiting for me when I get into the office. :) Zayo has been to a MICE meeting and has been approached multiple times they should be aware. You can lead a horse to water... There are a number of carriers who have equipment within 150' of the MICE rack but haven't connected. ######################################################################## To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1

Sept. 4, 2011

Re: Mice routes via Northern Lights GigaPoP

by David Farmer

On 8/31/11 19:31 CDT, Richard Laager wrote: > On Wed, 2011-08-31 at 19:26 -0500, Mike Horwath wrote: >> On Wed, Aug 31, 2011 at 03:28:00PM -0500, Jeremy Lumby wrote: >>> I have a case where I am seeing 199.199.0.0/16 in BGP via >>> MICE/Northern Lights GigaPoP. I have noticed that traffic to this >>> network takes MICE, however the return traffic is coming in across >>> one of my public Internet connections. I am assuming that either by >>> choice, or by accident that they are not accepting my route via >>> MICE/Northern Lights GigaPoP. I am wondering who would be the best >>> person to chat with about this since MICE does not list a peering >>> contact for Northern Lights GigaPoP in the participants page, and I >>> realize that the correct peering contact might be another level or >>> two deeper. >> >> Zayo (old Onvoy) network. >> >> Didn't we see something like this before when UMN connected things up >> with Zayo not accepting the route updates/insertions? > > FWIW: I'm seeing another possible problem the opposite way. I'm a > customer of Zayo and my routes to minnesota.edu go through the UMN, but > the return traffic goes to Zayo via Level3. Can you give me a prefix? The only routes I'm seeing from Zayo that I'm not accepting are ones that I have a better route to through MICE or a GigaPOP participant. Also, I'm not seeing any routes from AS33362 that are going via Level3, Cogent, TWTC, TransitRail or Internet2 CPS, our upstream Transit providers. Thanks -- =============================================== David Farmer Email:farmer@umn.edu Networking & Telecommunication Services Office of Information Technology University of Minnesota 2218 University Ave SE Phone: 612-626-0815 Minneapolis, MN 55414-3029 Cell: 612-812-9952 =============================================== ######################################################################## To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1

Sept. 4, 2011

Re: Mice routes via Northern Lights GigaPoP

by David Farmer

Sorry, I'm out of the country and a bit behind on email. We are announcing the routes we learn from MICE to Zayo and VISI, two commercial peers we had prior to the creation of MICE. I've been meaning to contact them and suggest that they peer directly at MiCE. We also announce all of the GigaPOP R&E participants, the state, MnSCU, many of the private colleges, much of K12 in the state, North Dakota Higher Ed and K12, Iowa State and much of ICN, etc... I believe VISI is actually accepting the routes and that Zayo is not accepting the routes. As was discussed on the list I believe they have old static prefix filters in place and are not accepting the routes. I've also been meaning to contact them about that too. But it has been a busy summer, and I haven't had a chance to get to it. I'm back in the office next week and I'll try to get around to contacting Zayo. Probably later in the week, as I know I'm going to have a bunch of stuff waiting for me when I get into the office. :) On 8/31/11 15:28 CDT, Jeremy Lumby wrote: > I have a case where I am seeing 199.199.0.0/16 in BGP via MICE/Northern Lights GigaPoP. I have noticed that traffic to this network takes MICE, however the return traffic is coming in across one of my public Internet connections. I am assuming that either by choice, or by accident that they are not accepting my route via MICE/Northern Lights GigaPoP. I am wondering who would be the best person to chat with about this since MICE does not list a peering contact for Northern Lights GigaPoP in the participants page, and I realize that the correct peering contact might be another level or two deeper. > > Thanks, > Jeremy > > ######################################################################## > > To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: > http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1 -- =============================================== David Farmer Email:farmer@umn.edu Networking & Telecommunication Services Office of Information Technology University of Minnesota 2218 University Ave SE Phone: 612-626-0815 Minneapolis, MN 55414-3029 Cell: 612-812-9952 =============================================== ######################################################################## To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1

Sept. 4, 2011

Re: Bird Help

by James Montz

I am On Sep 2, 2011 4:10 PM, "Jay Hanke" <jayhanke(a)mankatonetworks.net> wrote: > Is someone around build a couple of new bgp sessions for a new carrier > on the route servers? > > -- > Jay Hanke > CTO, CCIE #19093 > Mankato Networks LLC > 320 East Liberty Street > Mankato, MN 56001-3838 > Google 530-618-2398 > jayhanke(a)mankatonetworks.net > http://www.mankatonetworks.com > > ######################################################################## > > To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: > http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1 ######################################################################## To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1

Sept. 3, 2011

Bird Help

by Jay Hanke

Is someone around build a couple of new bgp sessions for a new carrier on the route servers? -- Jay Hanke CTO, CCIE #19093 Mankato Networks LLC 320 East Liberty Street Mankato, MN 56001-3838 Google 530-618-2398 jayhanke(a)mankatonetworks.net http://www.mankatonetworks.com ######################################################################## To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1

Sept. 2, 2011

Re: Mice routes via Northern Lights GigaPoP

by Matthew Beckwell

Yeahhh... It's by choice-- there are (old/outdated) static prefix filters on Zayo's peering session to the Gigapop. With the addition of MICE to AS57-- there's a lot more diverse traffic headed that direction than there used to be. I'll start a dialog with my contacts over there and see if we can get them to take more of a standard "transit" approach to that session. We have the same problem with our (relatively new) IPv4 prefix...MICE out...Level3/XO return... ~Matthew On Aug 31, 2011, at 3:28 PM, Jeremy Lumby wrote: > I have a case where I am seeing 199.199.0.0/16 in BGP via MICE/Northern Lights GigaPoP. I have noticed that traffic to this network takes MICE, however the return traffic is coming in across one of my public Internet connections. I am assuming that either by choice, or by accident that they are not accepting my route via MICE/Northern Lights GigaPoP. I am wondering who would be the best person to chat with about this since MICE does not list a peering contact for Northern Lights GigaPoP in the participants page, and I realize that the correct peering contact might be another level or two deeper. > > Thanks, > Jeremy > > ######################################################################## > > To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: > http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1 > ######################################################################## To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1

Sept. 1, 2011

Re: Mice routes via Northern Lights GigaPoP

by Richard Laager

On Wed, 2011-08-31 at 19:26 -0500, Mike Horwath wrote: > On Wed, Aug 31, 2011 at 03:28:00PM -0500, Jeremy Lumby wrote: > > I have a case where I am seeing 199.199.0.0/16 in BGP via > > MICE/Northern Lights GigaPoP. I have noticed that traffic to this > > network takes MICE, however the return traffic is coming in across > > one of my public Internet connections. I am assuming that either by > > choice, or by accident that they are not accepting my route via > > MICE/Northern Lights GigaPoP. I am wondering who would be the best > > person to chat with about this since MICE does not list a peering > > contact for Northern Lights GigaPoP in the participants page, and I > > realize that the correct peering contact might be another level or > > two deeper. > > Zayo (old Onvoy) network. > > Didn't we see something like this before when UMN connected things up > with Zayo not accepting the route updates/insertions? FWIW: I'm seeing another possible problem the opposite way. I'm a customer of Zayo and my routes to minnesota.edu go through the UMN, but the return traffic goes to Zayo via Level3. Richard ######################################################################## To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1

Sept. 1, 2011

Re: Mice routes via Northern Lights GigaPoP

by Mike Horwath

On Wed, Aug 31, 2011 at 03:28:00PM -0500, Jeremy Lumby wrote: > I have a case where I am seeing 199.199.0.0/16 in BGP via > MICE/Northern Lights GigaPoP. I have noticed that traffic to this > network takes MICE, however the return traffic is coming in across > one of my public Internet connections. I am assuming that either by > choice, or by accident that they are not accepting my route via > MICE/Northern Lights GigaPoP. I am wondering who would be the best > person to chat with about this since MICE does not list a peering > contact for Northern Lights GigaPoP in the participants page, and I > realize that the correct peering contact might be another level or > two deeper. Zayo (old Onvoy) network. Didn't we see something like this before when UMN connected things up with Zayo not accepting the route updates/insertions? -- Mike Horwath ipHouse - Welcome home! drechsau(a)iphouse.net The universe is an island, surrounded by whatever it is that surrounds universes. - Berkeley Fortune ######################################################################## To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1

Sept. 1, 2011

Mice routes via Northern Lights GigaPoP

by Jeremy Lumby

I have a case where I am seeing 199.199.0.0/16 in BGP via MICE/Northern Lights GigaPoP. I have noticed that traffic to this network takes MICE, however the return traffic is coming in across one of my public Internet connections. I am assuming that either by choice, or by accident that they are not accepting my route via MICE/Northern Lights GigaPoP. I am wondering who would be the best person to chat with about this since MICE does not list a peering contact for Northern Lights GigaPoP in the participants page, and I realize that the correct peering contact might be another level or two deeper. Thanks, Jeremy ######################################################################## To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1

Aug. 31, 2011

Re: IPv6 Route Server Check-in

by Owen DeLong

Check your IPv6 MaxPrefixes limit. Owen On Aug 30, 2011, at 1:41 PM, Doug McIntyre wrote: > On Tue, Aug 30, 2011 at 03:23:46PM -0500, Matthew Beckwell wrote: >> I just noticed both of our IPv6 sessions to the route servers are down. (2607:fe10:ffff::1, 2607:fe10:ffff::2). IPv4 is fine....other IPv6 sessions seem ok. >> (Although I'm not sure for how long-- my logging wasn't setup yet). >> >> Just doing a "DownForEveryoneOrJustMe" check... > > Hmm, up for us. > ... > 2607:fe10:ffff::1 > 4 53679 144213 126038 0 0 0 02w5d00h 19 > 2607:fe10:ffff::2 > 4 53679 144120 126038 0 0 0 02w5d00h 19 > > > And.. > > [merlyn@micemn-01 /]$ ping6 2607:fe10:ffff::25 > PING6(56=40+8+8 bytes) 2607:fe10:ffff::1 --> 2607:fe10:ffff::25 > > ^C > > [merlyn@micemn-01 /]$ telnet 2607:fe10:ffff::25 bgp > Trying 2607:fe10:ffff::25... > telnet: connect to address 2607:fe10:ffff::25: Host is down > telnet: Unable to connect to remote host > > > Check your IPv6 stack? > > > > -- > Doug McIntyre <merlyn(a)iphouse.net> > -- ipHouse/Goldengate/Bitstream/ProNS -- > Network Engineer/Provisioning/Jack of all Trades > > ######################################################################## > > To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: > http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1 ######################################################################## To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1

Aug. 30, 2011

Re: IPv6 Route Server Check-in

by Matthew Beckwell

Found a typo on the ACL. Thanks for the extra eyes. ~Matthew -----Original Message----- From: MICE Discuss [mailto:MICE-DISCUSS@LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET] On Behalf Of Doug McIntyre Sent: Tuesday, August 30, 2011 3:41 PM To: MICE-DISCUSS(a)LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET Subject: Re: [MICE-DISCUSS] IPv6 Route Server Check-in On Tue, Aug 30, 2011 at 03:23:46PM -0500, Matthew Beckwell wrote: > I just noticed both of our IPv6 sessions to the route servers are down. (2607:fe10:ffff::1, 2607:fe10:ffff::2). IPv4 is fine....other IPv6 sessions seem ok. > (Although I'm not sure for how long-- my logging wasn't setup yet). > > Just doing a "DownForEveryoneOrJustMe" check... Hmm, up for us. ... 2607:fe10:ffff::1 4 53679 144213 126038 0 0 0 02w5d00h 19 2607:fe10:ffff::2 4 53679 144120 126038 0 0 0 02w5d00h 19 And.. [merlyn@micemn-01 /]$ ping6 2607:fe10:ffff::25 PING6(56=40+8+8 bytes) 2607:fe10:ffff::1 --> 2607:fe10:ffff::25 ^C [merlyn@micemn-01 /]$ telnet 2607:fe10:ffff::25 bgp Trying 2607:fe10:ffff::25... telnet: connect to address 2607:fe10:ffff::25: Host is down telnet: Unable to connect to remote host Check your IPv6 stack? -- Doug McIntyre <merlyn(a)iphouse.net> -- ipHouse/Goldengate/Bitstream/ProNS -- Network Engineer/Provisioning/Jack of all Trades ######################################################################## To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1 ######################################################################## To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1

Aug. 30, 2011

Re: IPv6 Route Server Check-in

by Doug McIntyre

On Tue, Aug 30, 2011 at 03:23:46PM -0500, Matthew Beckwell wrote: > I just noticed both of our IPv6 sessions to the route servers are down. (2607:fe10:ffff::1, 2607:fe10:ffff::2). IPv4 is fine....other IPv6 sessions seem ok. > (Although I'm not sure for how long-- my logging wasn't setup yet). > > Just doing a "DownForEveryoneOrJustMe" check... Hmm, up for us. ... 2607:fe10:ffff::1 4 53679 144213 126038 0 0 0 02w5d00h 19 2607:fe10:ffff::2 4 53679 144120 126038 0 0 0 02w5d00h 19 And.. [merlyn@micemn-01 /]$ ping6 2607:fe10:ffff::25 PING6(56=40+8+8 bytes) 2607:fe10:ffff::1 --> 2607:fe10:ffff::25 ^C [merlyn@micemn-01 /]$ telnet 2607:fe10:ffff::25 bgp Trying 2607:fe10:ffff::25... telnet: connect to address 2607:fe10:ffff::25: Host is down telnet: Unable to connect to remote host Check your IPv6 stack? -- Doug McIntyre <merlyn(a)iphouse.net> -- ipHouse/Goldengate/Bitstream/ProNS -- Network Engineer/Provisioning/Jack of all Trades ######################################################################## To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1

Aug. 30, 2011

Re: IPv6 Route Server Check-in

by Steve Howard

Our IPv6 sessions to MICE are both up and stable. On 08/30/2011 03:23 PM, Matthew Beckwell wrote: > I just noticed both of our IPv6 sessions to the route servers are down. (2607:fe10:ffff::1, 2607:fe10:ffff::2). IPv4 is fine....other IPv6 sessions seem ok. > (Although I'm not sure for how long-- my logging wasn't setup yet). > > Just doing a "DownForEveryoneOrJustMe" check... > ~Matthew > ######################################################################## To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1

Aug. 30, 2011

IPv6 Route Server Check-in

by Matthew Beckwell

I just noticed both of our IPv6 sessions to the route servers are down. (2607:fe10:ffff::1, 2607:fe10:ffff::2). IPv4 is fine....other IPv6 sessions seem ok. (Although I'm not sure for how long-- my logging wasn't setup yet). Just doing a "DownForEveryoneOrJustMe" check... ~Matthew -- Matthew Beckwell - Senior Network and Application Engineer Advanced Integrated Technologies Office: 952-829-5511 x204 matthewb(a)aitech.net ######################################################################## To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1

Aug. 30, 2011

"carrier choice" verbiage

by Ryan Goldberg

I've got a customer moving into a building where the building owners/management is attempting to enforce carrier exclusivity; they are in bed with another carrier. I already have the customer's other two sites on-net. This would be a third, new site. My fiber is just outside of the building, and I want to be in it. The owners of the company (my customer) have a pretty strong hand, and are looking for verbiage to add to the lease basically stating they can use whatever carrier they want. Does anyone have something like this handy? Thanks! Ryan ######################################################################## To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1

Aug. 25, 2011

Re: cogent

by Andrew Hoyos

Might be coincidence, but we had a big fiber cut (AT&T/TA 288 ct + DOT 36 ct) in the Madison area yesterday afternoon. I know BoreasNet got taken out headed up towards EauClaire, so maybe they are in that same fiber cable headed that way on the Interstate. I would *hope* that 174 isn't single-pathed back down to Chicago on that cable, but I guess it wouldn't surprise me :-) On Aug 24, 2011, at 9:45 AM, Reid Knuttila wrote: > We had our link to Cogent in 511 go down yesterday, Aug 23 , at 14:39:07 . Still not up! > > Reid Knuttila > > From: Ryan Goldberg <RGoldberg(a)COMPUDYNE.NET> > Reply-To: MICE Discuss <MICE-DISCUSS(a)LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET> > Date: Tue, 23 Aug 2011 20:16:23 +0000 > To: <MICE-DISCUSS(a)LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET> > Subject: [MICE-DISCUSS] cogent > > I’m guessing someone else here is using Cogent – from 11:42 to 12:28 today everything going over cogent suffered pretty bad loss. My physical and logical infrastructure to MICE is the same as to cogent, and my MICE traffic was unaffected. Did anyone else notice anything like this? > > Thanks! > Ryan > > To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: > http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1 > > To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: > http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1 ######################################################################## To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1

Aug. 24, 2011

Re: cogent

by Jeff Bartig

That matches up close with a fiber cut we had yesterday down here in Madison, WI. We saw an interruption about 14:45 and then a complete outage of our long-haul fiber at 15:11. This is a fiber path that was originally installed by AT&T, Touch America, and Velocita. Maybe Cogent is using some of this fiber to get from Chicago to Minneapolis? Our pairs were restored early this morning. Jeff On Wed, Aug 24, 2011 at 02:45:53PM +0000, Reid Knuttila wrote: > We had our link to Cogent in 511 go down yesterday, Aug 23 , at 14:39:07 . Still not up! > > Reid Knuttila > > From: Ryan Goldberg <RGoldberg(a)COMPUDYNE.NET<mailto:RGoldberg@COMPUDYNE.NET>> > Reply-To: MICE Discuss <MICE-DISCUSS(a)LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET<mailto:MICE-DISCUSS@LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET>> > Date: Tue, 23 Aug 2011 20:16:23 +0000 > To: <MICE-DISCUSS(a)LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET<mailto:MICE-DISCUSS@LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET>> > Subject: [MICE-DISCUSS] cogent > > I?m guessing someone else here is using Cogent ? from 11:42 to 12:28 today everything going over cogent suffered pretty bad loss. My physical and logical infrastructure to MICE is the same as to cogent, and my MICE traffic was unaffected. Did anyone else notice anything like this? > > Thanks! > Ryan > > ________________________________ > > To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: > http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1 > > ######################################################################## > > To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: > http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1 -- Jeff Bartig | University of Wisconsin - Madison jeffb(a)doit.wisc.edu | Division of Information Technology (608) 262-8336 | Network Services/WAN Engineering/WiscNet GTalk/AIM/Yahoo: jbartig | ######################################################################## To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1

Aug. 24, 2011

Re: cogent

by Russell Berg

Our Cogent GigE out of 511 has been rock solid recently... can't recall any noticeable issues within the past 6-12 months on the graphs. Russell Berg Senior Director - Products and Services Airstream Communications Wisconsin Independent Network 800 Wisconsin Street, Suite 219 Building D02, Mailbox 107 Eau Claire, WI 54703 O: 715-832-3726 C: 715-579-8227 F: 715-832-3755 berg(a)wins.net www.wins.net ######################################################################## To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1

Aug. 24, 2011

Re: cogent

by Jeremy Lumby

Our Cogent link at 511 has been stable recently, however we did have issues last Tuesday the 16th at approx 5:12PM CDT. They did not appear to be local, they seemed to be related to a link between Time Warner Cablemodems and Cogent Jeremy ######################################################################## To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1

Aug. 24, 2011

Re: cogent

by Reid Knuttila

We had our link to Cogent in 511 go down yesterday, Aug 23 , at 14:39:07 . Still not up! Reid Knuttila From: Ryan Goldberg <RGoldberg(a)COMPUDYNE.NET<mailto:RGoldberg@COMPUDYNE.NET>> Reply-To: MICE Discuss <MICE-DISCUSS(a)LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET<mailto:MICE-DISCUSS@LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET>> Date: Tue, 23 Aug 2011 20:16:23 +0000 To: <MICE-DISCUSS(a)LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET<mailto:MICE-DISCUSS@LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET>> Subject: [MICE-DISCUSS] cogent I’m guessing someone else here is using Cogent – from 11:42 to 12:28 today everything going over cogent suffered pretty bad loss. My physical and logical infrastructure to MICE is the same as to cogent, and my MICE traffic was unaffected. Did anyone else notice anything like this? Thanks! Ryan ________________________________ To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1 ######################################################################## To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1

Aug. 24, 2011

cogent

by Ryan Goldberg

I'm guessing someone else here is using Cogent - from 11:42 to 12:28 today everything going over cogent suffered pretty bad loss. My physical and logical infrastructure to MICE is the same as to cogent, and my MICE traffic was unaffected. Did anyone else notice anything like this? Thanks! Ryan ######################################################################## To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1

Aug. 23, 2011

Re: possibly too OT - MQT transport

by Ryan Goldberg

PFN seems to be the ticket for this. Thanks! Ryan -----Original Message----- From: MICE Discuss [mailto:MICE-DISCUSS@LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET] On Behalf Of Andrew Hoyos Sent: Sunday, August 21, 2011 9:08 PM To: MICE-DISCUSS(a)LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET Subject: Re: [MICE-DISCUSS] possibly too OT - MQT transport Peninsula Fiber Network seems to be able to hit Marquette (also lists 511 as on-net through a partner - WIN long haul?) http://pfnllc.net/pops.php Appears that L(3), CenturyTel/Qwest and Sprint are around there too. Also, had map from folks at 123.net from a while back, which seemed to illustrate some sort of fiber connectivity in/around Marquette, although seem mostly focused on the "LP"... Might be worth checking with them too. On Aug 20, 2011, at 6:49 AM, Ryan Goldberg wrote: > Thanks. I'm following that and am working with one of the commercial companies (Lynx) and they're not bad. Trying to get closer to the fiber itself though. > > Ryan > > -----Original Message----- > From: MICE Discuss [mailto:MICE-DISCUSS@LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET] On Behalf > Of David Farmer > Sent: Friday, August 19, 2011 11:13 PM > To: MICE-DISCUSS(a)LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET > Subject: Re: [MICE-DISCUSS] possibly too OT - MQT transport > > Merit is doing a BTOP fiber build from Duluth/Superior to the UP and through much of the U, but the build doesn't actually go to Marquette, but maybe one of their commercial partners could help you though. > > See; > http://www.merit.edu/meritformichigan/index.php > > > On Aug 19, 2011, at 21:53, Ryan Goldberg <RGoldberg(a)COMPUDYNE.NET> wrote: > >> I have talked to WINS, and they look attractive for Superior, WI to 511 or Chicago, but getting to Marquette is pretty costly. >> >> Ryan >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: MICE Discuss [mailto:MICE-DISCUSS@LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET] On Behalf >> Of Justin Krejci >> Sent: Friday, August 19, 2011 5:33 PM >> To: MICE-DISCUSS(a)LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET >> Subject: Re: [MICE-DISCUSS] possibly too OT - MQT transport >> >> On Fri, 2011-08-19 at 22:11 +0000, Ryan Goldberg wrote: >>> I'm looking for transport Marquette MI <-> 511. We have an office >>> there, growing. 100ish Mbps for now would be dandy. Ideally, I >>> could do last mile myself with microwave or aerial fiber. >>> >>> >>> >> >> Get in touch with WIN http://www.wins.net They can get you thru Wisconsin to 511 from Iron Mountain and perhaps have some contacts or info about going thru Michigan since it appears they do not have any network coverage of your location. Neither do other Indatel group members from looking at their map. >> > > -- > =============================================== > David Farmer Email:farmer@umn.edu > Networking& Telecommunication Services Office of Information > Technology > University of Minnesota > 2218 University Ave SE Phone: 612-626-0815 > Minneapolis, MN 55414-3029 Cell: 612-812-9952 > =============================================== > ###################################################################### > ## > > To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: > http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1 > > > ###################################################################### > ## > > To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: > http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1 ######################################################################## To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1 ######################################################################## To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1

Aug. 23, 2011

Re: possibly too OT - MQT transport

by Andrew Hoyos

Peninsula Fiber Network seems to be able to hit Marquette (also lists 511 as on-net through a partner - WIN long haul?) http://pfnllc.net/pops.php Appears that L(3), CenturyTel/Qwest and Sprint are around there too. Also, had map from folks at 123.net from a while back, which seemed to illustrate some sort of fiber connectivity in/around Marquette, although seem mostly focused on the "LP"… Might be worth checking with them too. On Aug 20, 2011, at 6:49 AM, Ryan Goldberg wrote: > Thanks. I'm following that and am working with one of the commercial companies (Lynx) and they're not bad. Trying to get closer to the fiber itself though. > > Ryan > > -----Original Message----- > From: MICE Discuss [mailto:MICE-DISCUSS@LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET] On Behalf Of David Farmer > Sent: Friday, August 19, 2011 11:13 PM > To: MICE-DISCUSS(a)LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET > Subject: Re: [MICE-DISCUSS] possibly too OT - MQT transport > > Merit is doing a BTOP fiber build from Duluth/Superior to the UP and through much of the U, but the build doesn't actually go to Marquette, but maybe one of their commercial partners could help you though. > > See; > http://www.merit.edu/meritformichigan/index.php > > > On Aug 19, 2011, at 21:53, Ryan Goldberg <RGoldberg(a)COMPUDYNE.NET> wrote: > >> I have talked to WINS, and they look attractive for Superior, WI to 511 or Chicago, but getting to Marquette is pretty costly. >> >> Ryan >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: MICE Discuss [mailto:MICE-DISCUSS@LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET] On Behalf >> Of Justin Krejci >> Sent: Friday, August 19, 2011 5:33 PM >> To: MICE-DISCUSS(a)LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET >> Subject: Re: [MICE-DISCUSS] possibly too OT - MQT transport >> >> On Fri, 2011-08-19 at 22:11 +0000, Ryan Goldberg wrote: >>> I’m looking for transport Marquette MI <-> 511. We have an office >>> there, growing. 100ish Mbps for now would be dandy. Ideally, I >>> could do last mile myself with microwave or aerial fiber. >>> >>> >>> >> >> Get in touch with WIN http://www.wins.net They can get you thru Wisconsin to 511 from Iron Mountain and perhaps have some contacts or info about going thru Michigan since it appears they do not have any network coverage of your location. Neither do other Indatel group members from looking at their map. >> > > -- > =============================================== > David Farmer Email:farmer@umn.edu > Networking& Telecommunication Services > Office of Information Technology > University of Minnesota > 2218 University Ave SE Phone: 612-626-0815 > Minneapolis, MN 55414-3029 Cell: 612-812-9952 > =============================================== > ######################################################################## > > To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: > http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1 > > > ######################################################################## > > To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: > http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1 ######################################################################## To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1

Aug. 22, 2011

Re: possibly too OT - MQT transport

by Ryan Goldberg

Thanks. I'm following that and am working with one of the commercial companies (Lynx) and they're not bad. Trying to get closer to the fiber itself though. Ryan -----Original Message----- From: MICE Discuss [mailto:MICE-DISCUSS@LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET] On Behalf Of David Farmer Sent: Friday, August 19, 2011 11:13 PM To: MICE-DISCUSS(a)LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET Subject: Re: [MICE-DISCUSS] possibly too OT - MQT transport Merit is doing a BTOP fiber build from Duluth/Superior to the UP and through much of the U, but the build doesn't actually go to Marquette, but maybe one of their commercial partners could help you though. See; http://www.merit.edu/meritformichigan/index.php On Aug 19, 2011, at 21:53, Ryan Goldberg <RGoldberg(a)COMPUDYNE.NET> wrote: > I have talked to WINS, and they look attractive for Superior, WI to 511 or Chicago, but getting to Marquette is pretty costly. > > Ryan > > -----Original Message----- > From: MICE Discuss [mailto:MICE-DISCUSS@LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET] On Behalf > Of Justin Krejci > Sent: Friday, August 19, 2011 5:33 PM > To: MICE-DISCUSS(a)LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET > Subject: Re: [MICE-DISCUSS] possibly too OT - MQT transport > > On Fri, 2011-08-19 at 22:11 +0000, Ryan Goldberg wrote: >> I’m looking for transport Marquette MI <-> 511. We have an office >> there, growing. 100ish Mbps for now would be dandy. Ideally, I >> could do last mile myself with microwave or aerial fiber. >> >> >> > > Get in touch with WIN http://www.wins.net They can get you thru Wisconsin to 511 from Iron Mountain and perhaps have some contacts or info about going thru Michigan since it appears they do not have any network coverage of your location. Neither do other Indatel group members from looking at their map. > -- =============================================== David Farmer Email:farmer@umn.edu Networking& Telecommunication Services Office of Information Technology University of Minnesota 2218 University Ave SE Phone: 612-626-0815 Minneapolis, MN 55414-3029 Cell: 612-812-9952 =============================================== ######################################################################## To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1 ######################################################################## To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1

Aug. 20, 2011

Re: possibly too OT - MQT transport

by David Farmer

Merit is doing a BTOP fiber build from Duluth/Superior to the UP and through much of the U, but the build doesn't actually go to Marquette, but maybe one of their commercial partners could help you though. See; http://www.merit.edu/meritformichigan/index.php On Aug 19, 2011, at 21:53, Ryan Goldberg <RGoldberg(a)COMPUDYNE.NET> wrote: > I have talked to WINS, and they look attractive for Superior, WI to 511 or Chicago, but getting to Marquette is pretty costly. > > Ryan > > -----Original Message----- > From: MICE Discuss [mailto:MICE-DISCUSS@LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET] On Behalf Of Justin Krejci > Sent: Friday, August 19, 2011 5:33 PM > To: MICE-DISCUSS(a)LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET > Subject: Re: [MICE-DISCUSS] possibly too OT - MQT transport > > On Fri, 2011-08-19 at 22:11 +0000, Ryan Goldberg wrote: >> I’m looking for transport Marquette MI <-> 511. We have an office >> there, growing. 100ish Mbps for now would be dandy. Ideally, I could >> do last mile myself with microwave or aerial fiber. >> >> >> > > Get in touch with WIN http://www.wins.net They can get you thru Wisconsin to 511 from Iron Mountain and perhaps have some contacts or info about going thru Michigan since it appears they do not have any network coverage of your location. Neither do other Indatel group members from looking at their map. > -- =============================================== David Farmer Email:farmer@umn.edu Networking& Telecommunication Services Office of Information Technology University of Minnesota 2218 University Ave SE Phone: 612-626-0815 Minneapolis, MN 55414-3029 Cell: 612-812-9952 =============================================== ######################################################################## To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1

Aug. 20, 2011