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Akamai Install Update

by Jay Hanke

Akamai is sending 2 Horizontal PDU to replace the verticals that don't fit. They should arrive in about a week. The Cisco 4900m router just shipped tracking# 795243703999, & should be there by the 4th. Jay ######################################################################## To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1

Sept. 30, 2011

Pending MICE Turn up status

by Jay Hanke

We have a number of connections in various stages of turning up. -DCN (Layer 3 connectivity, no peering) -MyTelepath (Layer 2 connectivity) -Implex (X-conn installed) -Visi (Initial IP allocation) -Paul Bunyan Telephone (Initial IP allocation) -Wikstrom Telephone (Initial IP allocation) If you need any assistance getting going just ask! Jay ######################################################################## To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1

Sept. 29, 2011

Re: Akamai Cluster Help

by Owen DeLong

On Sep 28, 2011, at 3:23 PM, Richard Laager wrote: > On Wed, 2011-09-28 at 14:56 -0700, Owen DeLong wrote: >> Ideally, the PDUs that provide the NEMA 5-20R or 5-15R receptacles in the >> rack should have the NEMA L5-20P on their input cord. > > If a new PDU needs to be purchased anyway... > > I suspect the Akamai servers have IEC inputs. It might be worth > considering a PDU with IEC connectors on the output side. This could > provide enough outputs in 1U vs needing 2U for two PDUs. > If you do this, make sure you mount the strain reliefs on the PDUs and cable-tie the IEC plugs into the sockets. My experience with IEC PDUs has been generally positive, so long as you do this. If you don't, you are just asking for power issues as cables fall out (or partially out) of the PDUs. Owen ######################################################################## To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1

Sept. 28, 2011

Re: Akamai Cluster Help

by Jay Hanke

> Disclaimer: I haven't seen the rack, so this is just a general comment > to consider. Since nobody follows my twitter feed... http://mankatonetworks.com/wordpress/?p=161 ;) ######################################################################## To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1

Sept. 28, 2011

Re: Akamai Cluster Help

by Richard Laager

On Wed, 2011-09-28 at 14:56 -0700, Owen DeLong wrote: > Ideally, the PDUs that provide the NEMA 5-20R or 5-15R receptacles in the > rack should have the NEMA L5-20P on their input cord. If a new PDU needs to be purchased anyway... I suspect the Akamai servers have IEC inputs. It might be worth considering a PDU with IEC connectors on the output side. This could provide enough outputs in 1U vs needing 2U for two PDUs. Disclaimer: I haven't seen the rack, so this is just a general comment to consider. Richard ######################################################################## To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1

Sept. 28, 2011

Re: Akamai Cluster Help

by Hannigan, Martin

On 9/28/11 6:02 PM, "Jay Hanke" <jayhanke(a)MANKATONETWORKS.NET> wrote: >> We'd prefer that none of our equipment be modified without consultation of >> our deployment engineer responsible for this deployment. I'm sure that we'll >> be able to accommodate whatever environment that we need to and rapidly. > > I put in an email to him this morning, just haven't heard back yet. > Thanks, I sent along the thread for him to take a look and prompted him to respond. If we need to modify the strips or anything of ours facing the infrastructure we would appreciate a heads up. Our documentation is fairly meticulous and we like to keep as-builts. We're well aware of all of the requirements to occupy all sorts of datacenters globally and will be happy to support the most cost effective implementation possible. I don't think that we're too far off from turning up. I'll be posting an "on" notice as soon as we get cleared from deployment. Best, -M< ######################################################################## To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1

Sept. 28, 2011

Re: Akamai Cluster Help

by Jay Hanke

> We'd prefer that none of our equipment be modified without consultation of > our deployment engineer responsible for this deployment. I'm sure that we'll > be able to accommodate whatever environment that we need to and rapidly. I put in an email to him this morning, just haven't heard back yet. Jay ######################################################################## To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1

Sept. 28, 2011

Re: Akamai Cluster Help

by Owen DeLong

On Sep 28, 2011, at 2:48 PM, Hannigan, Martin wrote: > On 9/28/11 5:45 PM, "Jay Hanke" <jayhanke(a)MANKATONETWORKS.NET> wrote: > >>> 20P plugs are one horizontal and one vertical. If they have two vertical >>> prongs, then >>> they are NEMA 5-15P plugs which are much more likely on servers that are not >>> drawing very high amperages. >> >> The servers are all 5-15P. The outlet above the rack is a 20A twist >> lock so we'll need an adapter. >> >> Jay >> > > > Folks, > > We'd prefer that none of our equipment be modified without consultation of > our deployment engineer responsible for this deployment. I'm sure that we'll > be able to accommodate whatever environment that we need to and rapidly. > > Best, > > -M< I don't think anyone said anything about modifying your equipment, Marty. Ideally, the PDUs that provide the NEMA 5-20R or 5-15R receptacles in the rack should have the NEMA L5-20P on their input cord. Then, all that remains is to make sure that the total load being connected to each PDU does not exceed 18A max or 15A continuous. (You should always run a circuit with 25% continuous headroom and 10% max draw headroom in order to allow for line losses, etc.). Owen ######################################################################## To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1

Sept. 28, 2011

Re: Akamai Cluster Help

by Hannigan, Martin

On 9/28/11 5:45 PM, "Jay Hanke" <jayhanke(a)MANKATONETWORKS.NET> wrote: >> 20P plugs are one horizontal and one vertical. If they have two vertical >> prongs, then >> they are NEMA 5-15P plugs which are much more likely on servers that are not >> drawing very high amperages. > > The servers are all 5-15P. The outlet above the rack is a 20A twist > lock so we'll need an adapter. > > Jay > Folks, We'd prefer that none of our equipment be modified without consultation of our deployment engineer responsible for this deployment. I'm sure that we'll be able to accommodate whatever environment that we need to and rapidly. Best, -M< ######################################################################## To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1

Sept. 28, 2011

Re: Akamai Cluster Help

by Jay Hanke

> 20P plugs are one horizontal and one vertical. If they have two vertical prongs, then > they are NEMA 5-15P plugs which are much more likely on servers that are not > drawing very high amperages. The servers are all 5-15P. The outlet above the rack is a 20A twist lock so we'll need an adapter. Jay ######################################################################## To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1

Sept. 28, 2011

Re: Akamai Cluster Help

by Owen DeLong

If the servers are using NEMA 5-20P plugs (20A), we should make sure that we are not overloading any of the PDUs based on the number of servers and their actual load. 20P plugs are one horizontal and one vertical. If they have two vertical prongs, then they are NEMA 5-15P plugs which are much more likely on servers that are not drawing very high amperages. Owen On Sep 28, 2011, at 2:28 PM, Anthony Anderberg wrote: > Plug is NEMA 5-20P, the receptacles are NEMA 5-20R with the T-shaped neutral that can take 15A or 20A cords. > > Just to be sure - ten receptacles are enough? > > > Anthony Anderberg > Sr. Systems Analyst > 320-234-5239 > anthonyanderberg(a)nu-telecom.net > www.nutelecom.net > > > -----Original Message----- > From: MICE Discuss [mailto:MICE-DISCUSS@LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET] On Behalf Of Jay Hanke > Sent: Wednesday, September 28, 2011 3:54 PM > To: MICE-DISCUSS(a)LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET > Subject: Re: [MICE-DISCUSS] Akamai Cluster Help > >> What kind of plugs (volt/amp) do those PDUs need to be? >> I've got a couple 10 plug 110V/20A 1U horizontal units in need of a good home, but perhaps we want 208V. >> > > I've got all the servers in the rack and cabled to the switches. > > All the servers are 110 VAC so those would work great. What kind of > plug is on the cord? > > Jay > > ######################################################################## > > To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: > http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1 > > ######################################################################## > > To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: > http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1 ######################################################################## To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1

Sept. 28, 2011

Re: Akamai Cluster Help

by Jay Hanke

On Wed, Sep 28, 2011 at 4:28 PM, Anthony Anderberg <anthonyanderberg(a)nu-telecom.net> wrote: > Plug is NEMA 5-20P, the receptacles are NEMA 5-20R with the T-shaped neutral that can take 15A or 20A cords. > > Just to be sure - ten receptacles are enough? We would need two of them. 10 Servers, 2 switches, 1 (or 2) router (13 so far) ######################################################################## To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1

Sept. 28, 2011

Re: Akamai Cluster Help

by Anthony Anderberg

Plug is NEMA 5-20P, the receptacles are NEMA 5-20R with the T-shaped neutral that can take 15A or 20A cords. Just to be sure - ten receptacles are enough? Anthony Anderberg Sr. Systems Analyst 320-234-5239 anthonyanderberg(a)nu-telecom.net www.nutelecom.net -----Original Message----- From: MICE Discuss [mailto:MICE-DISCUSS@LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET] On Behalf Of Jay Hanke Sent: Wednesday, September 28, 2011 3:54 PM To: MICE-DISCUSS(a)LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET Subject: Re: [MICE-DISCUSS] Akamai Cluster Help > What kind of plugs (volt/amp) do those PDUs need to be? > I've got a couple 10 plug 110V/20A 1U horizontal units in need of a good home, but perhaps we want 208V. > I've got all the servers in the rack and cabled to the switches. All the servers are 110 VAC so those would work great. What kind of plug is on the cord? Jay ######################################################################## To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1 ######################################################################## To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1

Sept. 28, 2011

Re: Akamai Cluster Help

by Jay Hanke

> What kind of plugs (volt/amp) do those PDUs need to be? > I've got a couple 10 plug 110V/20A 1U horizontal units in need of a good home, but perhaps we want 208V. > I've got all the servers in the rack and cabled to the switches. All the servers are 110 VAC so those would work great. What kind of plug is on the cord? Jay ######################################################################## To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1

Sept. 28, 2011

Re: Akamai Cluster Help

by Anthony Anderberg

I can help with those tasks, although if the servers are big know that I have puny arms. :-) What kind of plugs (volt/amp) do those PDUs need to be? I've got a couple 10 plug 110V/20A 1U horizontal units in need of a good home, but perhaps we want 208V. Jay: Do we have an ETA on that router? Anthony Anderberg Sr. Systems Analyst 320-234-5239 anthonyanderberg(a)nu-telecom.net www.nutelecom.net -----Original Message----- From: MICE Discuss [mailto:MICE-DISCUSS@LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET] On Behalf Of Jay Hanke Sent: Wednesday, September 28, 2011 9:37 AM To: MICE-DISCUSS(a)LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET Subject: [MICE-DISCUSS] Akamai Cluster Help We need volunteers for the following: -Install PDU and wire up server and switch power cords -Install Akamai router (not yet arrived) -Power up servers and do any remaining initial provisioning (After IP connectivity is established) -Akamai built in Route Servers Please reply to the list so everyone knows what's going on. Thanks, Jay ######################################################################## To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1 ######################################################################## To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1

Sept. 28, 2011

Re: Akamai Cluster Help

by Matthew Beckwell

I 'm available to help with any of the items >17:00CT the rest of the week... Or anytime Saturday, Sunday, or Next week (10/3 - 10/7) ~Matthew -----Original Message----- From: MICE Discuss [mailto:MICE-DISCUSS@LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET] On Behalf Of Jay Hanke Sent: Wednesday, September 28, 2011 9:37 AM To: MICE-DISCUSS(a)LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET Subject: [MICE-DISCUSS] Akamai Cluster Help We need volunteers for the following: -Install PDU and wire up server and switch power cords -Install Akamai router (not yet arrived) -Power up servers and do any remaining initial provisioning (After IP connectivity is established) -Akamai built in Route Servers Please reply to the list so everyone knows what's going on. Thanks, Jay ######################################################################## To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1 ######################################################################## To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1

Sept. 28, 2011

Re: Akamai Cluster Help

by Jeremy Lumby

All -----Original Message----- From: MICE Discuss [mailto:MICE-DISCUSS@LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET] On Behalf Of Jay Hanke Sent: Wednesday, September 28, 2011 10:56 AM To: MICE-DISCUSS(a)LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET Subject: Re: [MICE-DISCUSS] Akamai Cluster Help On Wed, Sep 28, 2011 at 10:46 AM, Jeremy Lumby <jlumby(a)mnvoip.com> wrote: > I am willing to help > Which item(s)? Jay ######################################################################## To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1 ######################################################################## To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1

Sept. 28, 2011

Re: Akamai Cluster Help

by Jay Hanke

On Wed, Sep 28, 2011 at 10:46 AM, Jeremy Lumby <jlumby(a)mnvoip.com> wrote: > I am willing to help > Which item(s)? Jay ######################################################################## To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1

Sept. 28, 2011

Re: Akamai Cluster Help

by Jeremy Lumby

I am willing to help -----Original Message----- From: MICE Discuss [mailto:MICE-DISCUSS@LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET] On Behalf Of Jay Hanke Sent: Wednesday, September 28, 2011 9:37 AM To: MICE-DISCUSS(a)LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET Subject: [MICE-DISCUSS] Akamai Cluster Help We need volunteers for the following: -Install PDU and wire up server and switch power cords -Install Akamai router (not yet arrived) -Power up servers and do any remaining initial provisioning (After IP connectivity is established) -Akamai built in Route Servers Please reply to the list so everyone knows what's going on. Thanks, Jay ######################################################################## To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1 ######################################################################## To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1

Sept. 28, 2011

Akamai Cluster Help

by Jay Hanke

We need volunteers for the following: -Install PDU and wire up server and switch power cords -Install Akamai router (not yet arrived) -Power up servers and do any remaining initial provisioning (After IP connectivity is established) -Akamai built in Route Servers Please reply to the list so everyone knows what's going on. Thanks, Jay ######################################################################## To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1

Sept. 28, 2011

Re: Akamai Servers are in!

by David Farmer

On Sep 28, 2011, at 8:53, Jay Hanke <jayhanke(a)MANKATONETWORKS.NET> wrote: >> So, are they going to do video caching on the cluster there like the U >> of MN has? Or is it just the web page cluster ? > > My understanding is Akamai is going to cache anything static. That > includes a good chunk of the video but not the live stuff. I don't > think that the cluster at the U can do the real-time streaming, I'm > sure Farmer knows. I believe that is correct. I believe the MICE node will have more or less the same content as the UMN node. That does include video, probably not real-time video most of the time. But I have seen large events use our node, the Masters, Obama's Inauguration, etc... ######################################################################## To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1

Sept. 28, 2011

Re: Akamai Servers are in!

by Jay Hanke

> So, are they going to do video caching on the cluster there like the U > of MN has? Or is it just the web page cluster ? My understanding is Akamai is going to cache anything static. That includes a good chunk of the video but not the live stuff. I don't think that the cluster at the U can do the real-time streaming, I'm sure Farmer knows. Jay ######################################################################## To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1

Sept. 28, 2011

Re: Looking Glasses

by Mike Horwath

On Tue, Sep 27, 2011 at 12:07:45PM -0500, Jay Hanke wrote: > > Specifically mentioned the route servers - drink more coffee! > > > > Also specifically mentioned links to carriers looking glass servers, > care to join me for a cup? I was just answering the one question, not both. I'm always down for a cup. -- Mike Horwath ipHouse - Welcome home! drechsau(a)iphouse.net The universe is an island, surrounded by whatever it is that surrounds universes. - Berkeley Fortune ######################################################################## To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1

Sept. 27, 2011

Re: Looking Glasses

by Jeremy Lumby

As for a MICE looking glass, what about doing something similar to what AT&T did. They took a Cisco Router, and peered it with their production routers. They set up the router with a read only login that is listed in the banner when you telnet to it. For security purposes you could set BIRD to never accept any routes from the "Looking Glass" router in the event that it somehow did get compromised. The AT&T looking glass can be viewed by telneting to route-server.ip.att.net I know the MICE rack is tight on space, however when the Cisco switch comes out, there would be plenty of room for a "Looking Glass Router" and since the MICE routing table is far smaller than the full Internet routing table, you would not need a whole lot of RAM in the router (256 meg should do the trick for a while). I would be willing to donate a used Cisco router if the MICE members were interested. Someone would need to supply the bandwidth to get to the "Looking Glass Router", however with only telnet access, I do not see any significant bandwidth consumption. Jeremy Lumby Minnesota VoIP 9217 17th Ave S Suite 216 Bloomington, MN 55425 Main: 612-355-7740 Direct: 612-392-6814 E-Fax: 952-873-7425 jlumby(a)mnvoip.com ######################################################################## To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1

Sept. 27, 2011

Re: Akamai Servers are in!

by Dan Olsen

Jay: The City Of Windom would be happy to purchase a PDU for the project. Dan Olsen General Manager Windomnet 443 10th Street, PO box 38 Windom MN 56101 SMBS 110 South Hwy 86, PO Box 1006 Lakefield MN 56150 Voice 507-832-8007 -----Original Message----- From: MICE Discuss [mailto:MICE-DISCUSS@LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET] On Behalf Of Jay Hanke Sent: Tuesday, September 27, 2011 1:40 PM To: MICE-DISCUSS(a)LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET Subject: [MICE-DISCUSS] Akamai Servers are in! The Akamai servers are in! I'm going to be at 511 about 3 pm. If you have time and want to help out come on down! It looks like we're going to need a couple of rack mount PDUs. If you have one or two available please contact me. I think we're going to need about 12 outlets but I'm not sure exactly until I see the equipment. From the sounds of it the Akamai supplied strips might not fit in the enclosure. Thanks! Jay ######################################################################## To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1 ######################################################################## To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1

Sept. 27, 2011