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Re: LAG use

by Frank Bulk

Sounds like Jay is the only one that has used them on carrier NNIs - can you share a tier 1 or 2 name with me, off-list if you prefer? So far I have HE as the only documented Tier 1/2 carrier that uses them with customers/other providers. Thanks, Frank From: MICE Discuss [mailto:MICE-DISCUSS@LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET] On Behalf Of Jay Hanke Sent: Wednesday, January 25, 2012 1:13 PM To: MICE-DISCUSS(a)LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET Subject: Re: [MICE-DISCUSS] LAG use On Jan 25, 2012 12:54 PM, "Frank Bulk" <fbulk(a)mypremieronline.com<mailto:fbulk@mypremieronline.com>> wrote: Ok, Reid responded, but he's the only one. Anyone else use LAG to connect for Ethernet circuits? Yes, all the time. Works well but nothin' beats a 10G. :) Jay ________________________________ To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1 ######################################################################## To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1

Jan. 25, 2012

Re: LAG use

by Frank Bulk

Sounds like Jay is the only one that has used them on carrier NNIs - can you share a tier 1 or 2 name with me, off-list if you prefer? So far I have HE as the only documented Tier 1/2 carrier that uses them with customers/other providers. Thanks, Frank From: MICE Discuss [mailto:MICE-DISCUSS@LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET] On Behalf Of Jay Hanke Sent: Wednesday, January 25, 2012 1:13 PM To: MICE-DISCUSS(a)LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET Subject: Re: [MICE-DISCUSS] LAG use On Jan 25, 2012 12:54 PM, "Frank Bulk" <fbulk(a)mypremieronline.com<mailto:fbulk@mypremieronline.com>> wrote: Ok, Reid responded, but he's the only one. Anyone else use LAG to connect for Ethernet circuits? Yes, all the time. Works well but nothin' beats a 10G. :) Jay ________________________________ To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1 ######################################################################## To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1

Jan. 25, 2012

Re: LAG use

by Anthony Anderberg

The only thing I can think of is that you'd probably want the members of a LAG group to always have very similar performance characteristics (capacity, latency, ect). That's pretty easy with a dedicated lambda/fiber but may require some thought in shared transport environments - for example you'd want to ensure one member couldn't take a longer path and incur a lot more latency than other members. But that's just traffic engineering... We haven't had any requests for such things, but I certainly wouldn't be scared of doing them. Anthony Anderberg Sr. Systems Analyst 320-234-5239 anthonyanderberg(a)nu-telecom.net NU-Telecom -----Original Message----- From: MICE Discuss [mailto:MICE-DISCUSS@LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET] On Behalf Of Frank Bulk Sent: Wednesday, January 25, 2012 12:54 PM To: MICE-DISCUSS(a)LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET Subject: Re: [MICE-DISCUSS] LAG use Ok, Reid responded, but he's the only one. Anyone else use LAG to connect for Ethernet circuits? Frank -----Original Message----- From: MICE Discuss [mailto:MICE-DISCUSS@LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET] On Behalf Of Frank Bulk Sent: Friday, January 20, 2012 4:44 PM To: MICE-DISCUSS(a)LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET Subject: [MICE-DISCUSS] LAG use I've been working with our state's telco coop to enhance our Ethernet circuit redundancy. (This is not for Internet circuits, but Ethernet circuits like wireless backhaul). The coop doesn't do a lot of LAG today, except for large customers that have purchased many circuits. Since our transport gear has that capability and we have the ports we'd like to do it, too. To help bolster our case, we're looking for examples where tier 1/2 carriers do LAG with their customers. Can anyone on this list share (on or off list) some examples)? Frank ######################################################################## To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1 ######################################################################## To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1 ######################################################################## To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1

Jan. 25, 2012

Re: LAG use

by Reid Fishler

Other than 2 10G's LAGed together, of course! Reid On Wed, Jan 25, 2012 at 2:12 PM, Jay Hanke <jayhanke(a)mankatonetworks.net>wrote: > On Jan 25, 2012 12:54 PM, "Frank Bulk" <fbulk(a)mypremieronline.com> wrote: > >> Ok, Reid responded, but he's the only one. Anyone else use LAG to >> connect for Ethernet circuits? >> > > Yes, all the time. Works well but nothin' beats a 10G. :) > > Jay > > ------------------------------ > > To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: > http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1 > -- Reid Fishler Director Hurricane Electric +1-510-580-4178 ######################################################################## To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1

Jan. 25, 2012

Re: LAG use

by Jay Hanke

On Jan 25, 2012 12:54 PM, "Frank Bulk" <fbulk(a)mypremieronline.com> wrote: > Ok, Reid responded, but he's the only one. Anyone else use LAG to connect > for Ethernet circuits? > Yes, all the time. Works well but nothin' beats a 10G. :) Jay ######################################################################## To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1

Jan. 25, 2012

Re: LAG use

by Mike Horwath

On Wed, Jan 25, 2012 at 01:07:10PM -0600, Eric Crist wrote: > We're not a telco or ISP, but we use LAG internally for switch > trunks, we've found it to work well, generally. we do too. haven't had a customer ask for it over a metro-ethernet connection yet though. -- Mike Horwath ipHouse - Welcome home! drechsau(a)iphouse.net The universe is an island, surrounded by whatever it is that surrounds universes. - Berkeley Fortune ######################################################################## To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1

Jan. 25, 2012

Re: LAG use

by Eric Crist

We're not a telco or ISP, but we use LAG internally for switch trunks, we've found it to work well, generally. --- Eric F Crist System Administrator ClaimLynx, Inc (952) 593-5969 x2301 On Jan 25, 2012, at 12:54:06, Frank Bulk wrote: > Ok, Reid responded, but he's the only one. Anyone else use LAG to connect for Ethernet circuits? > > Frank > > -----Original Message----- > From: MICE Discuss [mailto:MICE-DISCUSS@LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET] On Behalf Of Frank Bulk > Sent: Friday, January 20, 2012 4:44 PM > To: MICE-DISCUSS(a)LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET > Subject: [MICE-DISCUSS] LAG use > > I've been working with our state's telco coop to enhance our Ethernet circuit redundancy. (This is not for Internet circuits, but Ethernet circuits like wireless backhaul). The coop doesn't do a lot of LAG today, except for large customers that have purchased many circuits. Since our transport gear has that capability and we have the ports we'd like to do it, too. To help bolster our case, we're looking for examples where tier 1/2 carriers do LAG with their customers. > > Can anyone on this list share (on or off list) some examples)? > > Frank > > ######################################################################## > > To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: > http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1 > > ######################################################################## > > To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: > http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1 ######################################################################## To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1

Jan. 25, 2012

Re: LAG use

by Frank Bulk

Ok, Reid responded, but he's the only one. Anyone else use LAG to connect for Ethernet circuits? Frank -----Original Message----- From: MICE Discuss [mailto:MICE-DISCUSS@LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET] On Behalf Of Frank Bulk Sent: Friday, January 20, 2012 4:44 PM To: MICE-DISCUSS(a)LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET Subject: [MICE-DISCUSS] LAG use I've been working with our state's telco coop to enhance our Ethernet circuit redundancy. (This is not for Internet circuits, but Ethernet circuits like wireless backhaul). The coop doesn't do a lot of LAG today, except for large customers that have purchased many circuits. Since our transport gear has that capability and we have the ports we'd like to do it, too. To help bolster our case, we're looking for examples where tier 1/2 carriers do LAG with their customers. Can anyone on this list share (on or off list) some examples)? Frank ######################################################################## To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1 ######################################################################## To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1

Jan. 25, 2012

Re: NANOG San Diego

by Steve Howard

I'll be there. Current plan is to arrive Sunday night. My wife is also coming along this time. On 01/23/2012 05:32 PM, Jay Hanke wrote: > Is anyone else going to NANOG in San Diego? > > Jay > > ######################################################################## > > To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: > http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1 > > ######################################################################## To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1

Jan. 24, 2012

Re: NANOG San Diego

by Andrew Hoyos

On Jan 23, 2012, at 5:32 PM, Jay Hanke wrote: > Is anyone else going to NANOG in San Diego? I'll be there - need a break from the cold ;-) There is a few others from the WI contingent too. Flying in with wife+kid on Thursday prior, if anyone wants to do something 'family-orientated' (SD Zoo for sure!) -- Andrew Hoyos hoyosa(a)gmail.com ######################################################################## To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1

Jan. 23, 2012

NANOG San Diego

by Jay Hanke

Is anyone else going to NANOG in San Diego? Jay ######################################################################## To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1

Jan. 23, 2012

New Omaha Exchange

by Jay Hanke

All, I'm working on building a new exchange in the Omaha area. If you are interested or know those who may be interested please send them my way! Thanks, Jay ######################################################################## To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1

Jan. 23, 2012

Re: would MICE be willing to designate me as it's representative to ICANN?

by John Unger

You have our vote!!! Minneapolis | Alexandria | St. Cloud John Unger President d: 612.238.1601 c: 612.325.2909 john(a)vaultas.com www.vaultas.com This message is intended only for the named recipient(s) and may contain confidential, proprietary or legally privileged information. No confidentiality or privilege is waived or lost by any misdirected transmission. If you received this message in error, please notify us immediately by telephone at 612.325.2909 and immediately delete this message from your system. If you are not the intended recipient, you must not use, disclose, distribute or copy any part of this message. -----Original Message----- From: MICE Discuss [mailto:MICE-DISCUSS@LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET] On Behalf Of Dan Boehlke Sent: Sunday, January 22, 2012 9:08 AM To: MICE-DISCUSS(a)LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET Subject: Re: [MICE-DISCUSS] would MICE be willing to designate me as it's representative to ICANN? Greetings, Having known Mike for a long time, I know his work at ICANN would benefit the entire MICE community. I support Mike's proposal and would recommend that we allow mice to go forward with our designation and support. It is in our interests to have individuals from our community in Internet governance. Thank you. -- Dan Boehlke 651-341-6880 On Jan 22, 2012, at 6:52 AM, "Mike O'Connor" <mike(a)HAVEN2.COM> wrote: > hi all, > > i'm hunting for a different home-base in the ICANN scheme of things (long story, happy to share, but probably boring for y'all). right now i'm in the "Business constituency" which you can read about at http://www.bizconst.org/. i'm trying to swing over to the ISP constituency (http://www.ispcp.info/) mostly because it's a better fit for my interests, but also because the Business constituency is making me sick to my stomach and i don't want to be a part of that gang any more (another really long story). > > so i was wondering if MICE (or any of you individual members) would be willing to designate me your ICANN representative so's i could switch. this will be a pretty light burden for y'all -- i'll pay all the expenses, give you reports on interesting stuff having to do with DNS and IP-address policy issues, collect your views, carry them off to ICANN, etc. > > i just need a new place to stand inside of ICANN and you're the gang i'd like to stand with. > > questions? comments? ideas? > > mikey > > > - - - - - - - - - > phone 651-647-6109 > fax 866-280-2356 > web http://www.haven2.com > handle OConnorStP (ID for public places like Twitter, Facebook, Google, etc.) > > ######################################################################## > > To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: > http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1 ######################################################################## To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1 ######################################################################## To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1

Jan. 23, 2012

Re: would MICE be willing to designate me as it's representative to ICANN?

by Jeremy Lumby

You have my vote -----Original Message----- From: MICE Discuss [mailto:MICE-DISCUSS@LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET] On Behalf Of Mike O'Connor Sent: Sunday, January 22, 2012 10:49 AM To: MICE-DISCUSS(a)LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET Subject: Re: [MICE-DISCUSS] would MICE be willing to designate me as it's representative to ICANN? thanks Dan! hm… Dan's note made me realize that it's not the Old Days any more and that many of you don't know me at all. so my terse little request comes out of the blue. let me remedy that. i'm extra thankful that Dan fired off that note. i've been a fan and observer of MICE since the beginning, but except for lurking on the list and showing up at some of the meetings i haven't done a lick of work on this project. i'd be happy to pull a little harder on the oars in exchange for your allowing me to pay for your membership in ICANN and being one of your representatives. here's a link to my bio -- http://www.haven2.com/index.php/bio here's a link to my page on ICANN-wiki (where you can find out about all kinda ICANN stuff) -- http://icannwiki.com/index.php/Mike_O%27Connor you'll see on the ICANN page that i do a bunch of work on working groups -- mostly focused on the security and stability kinda stuff. my problem with the Business Constituency has always been that it is quite tilted towards the interests of intellectual property owners and large corporations fending off cybersquatters. it's not that i disagree with them, but i've always felt that the view of the business community should be broader than that. and besides, there's a whole 'nother constituency that's supposed to be looking out for the interests of intellectual property. so i've been toiling away for years trying to carry that broader agenda inside the constituency. but this past few months have seen the constituency backslide a bit. first with the way we were playing both sides of the fence in the US Congress on the introduction of new gTLDs and then with the SOPA/PIPA legislation. so i'm getting tired of the ambiguity. the nice thing about the ISP constituency is that their agenda is much less political and a lot better aligned with my interests. so there's a bit more of the story, and a better job of introducing myself to those of you who don't know me. sorry about that, mikey On Jan 22, 2012, at 9:08 AM, Dan Boehlke wrote: > Greetings, > > Having known Mike for a long time, I know his work at ICANN would benefit the entire MICE community. I support Mike's proposal and would recommend that we allow mice to go forward with our designation and support. It is in our interests to have individuals from our community in Internet governance. > > Thank you. > > -- > Dan Boehlke > 651-341-6880 > > > On Jan 22, 2012, at 6:52 AM, "Mike O'Connor" <mike(a)HAVEN2.COM> wrote: > >> hi all, >> >> i'm hunting for a different home-base in the ICANN scheme of things (long story, happy to share, but probably boring for y'all). right now i'm in the "Business constituency" which you can read about at http://www.bizconst.org/. i'm trying to swing over to the ISP constituency (http://www.ispcp.info/) mostly because it's a better fit for my interests, but also because the Business constituency is making me sick to my stomach and i don't want to be a part of that gang any more (another really long story). >> >> so i was wondering if MICE (or any of you individual members) would be willing to designate me your ICANN representative so's i could switch. this will be a pretty light burden for y'all -- i'll pay all the expenses, give you reports on interesting stuff having to do with DNS and IP-address policy issues, collect your views, carry them off to ICANN, etc. >> >> i just need a new place to stand inside of ICANN and you're the gang i'd like to stand with. >> >> questions? comments? ideas? >> >> mikey >> >> >> - - - - - - - - - >> phone 651-647-6109 >> fax 866-280-2356 >> web http://www.haven2.com >> handle OConnorStP (ID for public places like Twitter, Facebook, Google, etc.) >> >> ##################################################################### >> ### >> >> To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: >> http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1 > > ###################################################################### > ## > > To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: > http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1 - - - - - - - - - phone 651-647-6109 fax 866-280-2356 web http://www.haven2.com handle OConnorStP (ID for public places like Twitter, Facebook, Google, etc.) ######################################################################## To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1 ######################################################################## To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1

Jan. 22, 2012

Re: would MICE be willing to designate me as it's representative to ICANN?

by Mike O'Connor

thanks Dan! hm… Dan's note made me realize that it's not the Old Days any more and that many of you don't know me at all. so my terse little request comes out of the blue. let me remedy that. i'm extra thankful that Dan fired off that note. i've been a fan and observer of MICE since the beginning, but except for lurking on the list and showing up at some of the meetings i haven't done a lick of work on this project. i'd be happy to pull a little harder on the oars in exchange for your allowing me to pay for your membership in ICANN and being one of your representatives. here's a link to my bio -- http://www.haven2.com/index.php/bio here's a link to my page on ICANN-wiki (where you can find out about all kinda ICANN stuff) -- http://icannwiki.com/index.php/Mike_O%27Connor you'll see on the ICANN page that i do a bunch of work on working groups -- mostly focused on the security and stability kinda stuff. my problem with the Business Constituency has always been that it is quite tilted towards the interests of intellectual property owners and large corporations fending off cybersquatters. it's not that i disagree with them, but i've always felt that the view of the business community should be broader than that. and besides, there's a whole 'nother constituency that's supposed to be looking out for the interests of intellectual property. so i've been toiling away for years trying to carry that broader agenda inside the constituency. but this past few months have seen the constituency backslide a bit. first with the way we were playing both sides of the fence in the US Congress on the introduction of new gTLDs and then with the SOPA/PIPA legislation. so i'm getting tired of the ambiguity. the nice thing about the ISP constituency is that their agenda is much less political and a lot better aligned with my interests. so there's a bit more of the story, and a better job of introducing myself to those of you who don't know me. sorry about that, mikey On Jan 22, 2012, at 9:08 AM, Dan Boehlke wrote: > Greetings, > > Having known Mike for a long time, I know his work at ICANN would benefit the entire MICE community. I support Mike's proposal and would recommend that we allow mice to go forward with our designation and support. It is in our interests to have individuals from our community in Internet governance. > > Thank you. > > -- > Dan Boehlke > 651-341-6880 > > > On Jan 22, 2012, at 6:52 AM, "Mike O'Connor" <mike(a)HAVEN2.COM> wrote: > >> hi all, >> >> i'm hunting for a different home-base in the ICANN scheme of things (long story, happy to share, but probably boring for y'all). right now i'm in the "Business constituency" which you can read about at http://www.bizconst.org/. i'm trying to swing over to the ISP constituency (http://www.ispcp.info/) mostly because it's a better fit for my interests, but also because the Business constituency is making me sick to my stomach and i don't want to be a part of that gang any more (another really long story). >> >> so i was wondering if MICE (or any of you individual members) would be willing to designate me your ICANN representative so's i could switch. this will be a pretty light burden for y'all -- i'll pay all the expenses, give you reports on interesting stuff having to do with DNS and IP-address policy issues, collect your views, carry them off to ICANN, etc. >> >> i just need a new place to stand inside of ICANN and you're the gang i'd like to stand with. >> >> questions? comments? ideas? >> >> mikey >> >> >> - - - - - - - - - >> phone 651-647-6109 >> fax 866-280-2356 >> web http://www.haven2.com >> handle OConnorStP (ID for public places like Twitter, Facebook, Google, etc.) >> >> ######################################################################## >> >> To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: >> http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1 > > ######################################################################## > > To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: > http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1 - - - - - - - - - phone 651-647-6109 fax 866-280-2356 web http://www.haven2.com handle OConnorStP (ID for public places like Twitter, Facebook, Google, etc.) ######################################################################## To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1

Jan. 22, 2012

Re: would MICE be willing to designate me as it's representative to ICANN?

by Mike Horwath

On Jan 22, 2012, at 6:52 AM, Mike O'Connor wrote: > hi all, [snip] If a vote: I say A-OK! I can't find anything negative off of the top of my head. -- Mike Horwath drechsau(a)iphouse.net The universe is an island, surrounded by whatever it is that surrounds universes. - Berkely Fortune ######################################################################## To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1

Jan. 22, 2012

Re: would MICE be willing to designate me as it's representative to ICANN?

by Dan Boehlke

Greetings, Having known Mike for a long time, I know his work at ICANN would benefit the entire MICE community. I support Mike's proposal and would recommend that we allow mice to go forward with our designation and support. It is in our interests to have individuals from our community in Internet governance. Thank you. -- Dan Boehlke 651-341-6880 On Jan 22, 2012, at 6:52 AM, "Mike O'Connor" <mike(a)HAVEN2.COM> wrote: > hi all, > > i'm hunting for a different home-base in the ICANN scheme of things (long story, happy to share, but probably boring for y'all). right now i'm in the "Business constituency" which you can read about at http://www.bizconst.org/. i'm trying to swing over to the ISP constituency (http://www.ispcp.info/) mostly because it's a better fit for my interests, but also because the Business constituency is making me sick to my stomach and i don't want to be a part of that gang any more (another really long story). > > so i was wondering if MICE (or any of you individual members) would be willing to designate me your ICANN representative so's i could switch. this will be a pretty light burden for y'all -- i'll pay all the expenses, give you reports on interesting stuff having to do with DNS and IP-address policy issues, collect your views, carry them off to ICANN, etc. > > i just need a new place to stand inside of ICANN and you're the gang i'd like to stand with. > > questions? comments? ideas? > > mikey > > > - - - - - - - - - > phone 651-647-6109 > fax 866-280-2356 > web http://www.haven2.com > handle OConnorStP (ID for public places like Twitter, Facebook, Google, etc.) > > ######################################################################## > > To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: > http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1 ######################################################################## To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1

Jan. 22, 2012

would MICE be willing to designate me as it's representative to ICANN?

by Mike O'Connor

hi all, i'm hunting for a different home-base in the ICANN scheme of things (long story, happy to share, but probably boring for y'all). right now i'm in the "Business constituency" which you can read about at http://www.bizconst.org/. i'm trying to swing over to the ISP constituency (http://www.ispcp.info/) mostly because it's a better fit for my interests, but also because the Business constituency is making me sick to my stomach and i don't want to be a part of that gang any more (another really long story). so i was wondering if MICE (or any of you individual members) would be willing to designate me your ICANN representative so's i could switch. this will be a pretty light burden for y'all -- i'll pay all the expenses, give you reports on interesting stuff having to do with DNS and IP-address policy issues, collect your views, carry them off to ICANN, etc. i just need a new place to stand inside of ICANN and you're the gang i'd like to stand with. questions? comments? ideas? mikey - - - - - - - - - phone 651-647-6109 fax 866-280-2356 web http://www.haven2.com handle OConnorStP (ID for public places like Twitter, Facebook, Google, etc.) ######################################################################## To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1

Jan. 22, 2012

Re: LAG use

by Reid Fishler

We do LAG all the time with our customers. Reid On Fri, Jan 20, 2012 at 5:44 PM, Frank Bulk <fbulk(a)mypremieronline.com>wrote: > I've been working with our state's telco coop to enhance our Ethernet > circuit redundancy. (This is not for Internet circuits, but Ethernet > circuits like wireless backhaul). The coop doesn't do a lot of LAG today, > except for large customers that have purchased many circuits. Since our > transport gear has that capability and we have the ports we'd like to do > it, too. To help bolster our case, we're looking for examples where tier > 1/2 carriers do LAG with their customers. > > Can anyone on this list share (on or off list) some examples)? > > Frank > > ######################################################################## > > To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: > http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1 > > -- Reid Fishler Director Hurricane Electric +1-510-580-4178 ######################################################################## To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1

Jan. 20, 2012

LAG use

by Frank Bulk

I've been working with our state's telco coop to enhance our Ethernet circuit redundancy. (This is not for Internet circuits, but Ethernet circuits like wireless backhaul). The coop doesn't do a lot of LAG today, except for large customers that have purchased many circuits. Since our transport gear has that capability and we have the ports we'd like to do it, too. To help bolster our case, we're looking for examples where tier 1/2 carriers do LAG with their customers. Can anyone on this list share (on or off list) some examples)? Frank ######################################################################## To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1

Jan. 20, 2012

Re: Stats Collection for CNS Switch

by Doug McIntyre

On Tue, Jan 10, 2012 at 03:21:17PM -0600, Andrew Hoyos wrote: > Just a suggestion: would it make more sense for each of the folks providing space/power for the switches to provide a /29 or /31 for OOB management, rather than inband management within the MICE subnet? FWIW: The juniper switch stack is already that way, we push down a small routable block that 216.250.183.11 is in. -- Doug McIntyre <merlyn(a)iphouse.net> -- ipHouse/Goldengate/Bitstream/ProNS -- Network Engineer/Provisioning/Jack of all Trades ######################################################################## To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1

Jan. 10, 2012

Re: MKE IX Status

by Justin Krejci

I will drop a note to Red Anvil, they may be interested if they're not already involved. On Tue, 2012-01-10 at 15:37 -0600, Andrew Hoyos wrote: > On Jan 10, 2012, at 3:23 PM, Jay Hanke wrote: > > > I was going to hijack the other thread but cooler heads prevailed. > > > > Andrew, How is the MKE exchange coming? > > > We're live with a few participants in the 324 E Wisconsin building in Milwaukee! > > For those curious, > > - MKEIX all non profit / free exchange in Milwaukee, WI > - Brocade donated two CES2k 24 port SFP's to get the exchange running > - We've live in suite 433 of the building (Netwurx) > - The 2nd switch is placed in suite 825 (TSR Solutions), and we're finishing up with cross connects between the two over the next few weeks. > - TSR Solutions is a bit more carrier heavy as far as tenants, so we're adding another 5+ participants when that goes live. > > If there is anyone lurking on the list with a presence in WI (specifically Madison or Milwaukee) interested in the IX, let me know! > > There is a mailing list and website, which can be found here: www.mkeix.net > > Thanks, > Andrew > > -- > Andrew Hoyos > hoyosa(a)gmail.com > > ######################################################################## > > To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: > http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1 ######################################################################## To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1

Jan. 10, 2012

Re: Stats Collection for CNS Switch

by Jay Hanke

> SUSPENSE IS KILLING ME! Looks like the agg graph just about doubled... Jay ######################################################################## To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1

Jan. 10, 2012

Re: MKE IX Status

by Andrew Hoyos

On Jan 10, 2012, at 3:23 PM, Jay Hanke wrote: > I was going to hijack the other thread but cooler heads prevailed. > > Andrew, How is the MKE exchange coming? We're live with a few participants in the 324 E Wisconsin building in Milwaukee! For those curious, - MKEIX all non profit / free exchange in Milwaukee, WI - Brocade donated two CES2k 24 port SFP's to get the exchange running - We've live in suite 433 of the building (Netwurx) - The 2nd switch is placed in suite 825 (TSR Solutions), and we're finishing up with cross connects between the two over the next few weeks. - TSR Solutions is a bit more carrier heavy as far as tenants, so we're adding another 5+ participants when that goes live. If there is anyone lurking on the list with a presence in WI (specifically Madison or Milwaukee) interested in the IX, let me know! There is a mailing list and website, which can be found here: www.mkeix.net Thanks, Andrew -- Andrew Hoyos hoyosa(a)gmail.com ######################################################################## To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1

Jan. 10, 2012

Re: Stats Collection for CNS Switch

by Mike Horwath

On Tue, Jan 10, 2012 at 03:21:17PM -0600, Andrew Hoyos wrote: > Just a suggestion: would it make more sense for each of the folks > providing space/power for the switches to provide a /29 or /31 for > OOB management, rather than inband management within the MICE > subnet? > > That way, it's kinda separated, and nobody has to worry about static > routing stuff different places, or distributing the IX subnet > itself. > > IX subnet = IX participant routers only then SUSPENSE IS KILLING ME! :) I'd be happy to provide the switch subnetting requirements for OOB (for switches that have OOB that is). but anyone else can take the helm on that as well. -- Mike Horwath ipHouse - Welcome home! drechsau(a)iphouse.net The universe is an island, surrounded by whatever it is that surrounds universes. - Berkeley Fortune ######################################################################## To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1

Jan. 10, 2012