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Finance committee set

by Mike Horwath

New spreadsheet oncoming about costs and revenue needs for MICE. Thanks guys! EX4200-24-T $1900 EX4200-48-T $4200 EX4500 $19,500 Max virtual chassis config is 10 EX4200 series or 2 EX4200 + EX4500 series. Maintenance fees were in another message and I hope we can keep the discount long term. Cologix will be approximately $1600 per month for a rack and A+B power at 20A (Mr. Hemphill please correct me). Is figure three years for ROI. Two years may be better depending on growth plans to cover updates. -- Mike, via phone ######################################################################## To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1

Oct. 3, 2012

Re: Please welcome Savage Communications to MICE

by Doug McIntyre

On Wed, Oct 03, 2012 at 01:50:30PM -0500, Jay Hanke wrote: > Here is the IP assignment: > > Savage Communications > ASN 23260 > Secondary IP: 69.147.218.17 (temp) > Primary IP: 206.108.255.17 > Secondary IPv6: 2607:fe10:ffff::17 (temp) > Primary IPv6: 2001:504:27:0:0:5ADC::1 > > SCI will peer with the route servers at: > > 206.108.255.1 > 206.108.255.2 > 2001:504:27:0:0:D1AF::1 > 2001:504:27:0:0:D1AF::2 > > Please configure the route servers. Sure, all set, ready to go. Welcome aboard! -- Doug McIntyre <merlyn(a)iphouse.net> -- ipHouse/Goldengate/Bitstream/ProNS -- Network Engineer/Provisioning/Jack of all Trades ######################################################################## To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1

Oct. 3, 2012

Please welcome Savage Communications to MICE

by Jay Hanke

Here is the IP assignment: Savage Communications ASN 23260 Secondary IP: 69.147.218.17 (temp) Primary IP: 206.108.255.17 Secondary IPv6: 2607:fe10:ffff::17 (temp) Primary IPv6: 2001:504:27:0:0:5ADC::1 SCI will peer with the route servers at: 206.108.255.1 206.108.255.2 2001:504:27:0:0:D1AF::1 2001:504:27:0:0:D1AF::2 Please configure the route servers. Thanks! -- Jay Hanke CTO, CCIE #19093 Mankato Networks LLC PO Box 54 619 S Front St Mankato, MN 56001-3838 Google 530-618-2398 jayhanke(a)mankatonetworks.net http://www.mankatonetworks.com ######################################################################## To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1

Oct. 3, 2012

MICE Legal Documents

by Jay Hanke

The legal documents we will be talking about in the meeting are available here: http://mankatonetworks.com/MICE/MICE-Legal-Info.zip These are in MS-Word format. -- Jay Hanke CTO, CCIE #19093 Mankato Networks LLC PO Box 54 619 S Front St Mankato, MN 56001-3838 Google 530-618-2398 jayhanke(a)mankatonetworks.net http://www.mankatonetworks.com ######################################################################## To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1

Oct. 3, 2012

MICE Renumbering project First Milestone Reached 10/1/2012

by Jay Hanke

We've reached the first milestone in the MICE renumbering project. By now, all peering email contacts have recieved notice of the new IP addresses, and a timeline and request to have the new IP address setup as a secondary on their MICE facing interface by today, 10/1/2012. The timeline also stated that members can now start to schedule their maintenance windows to shift around their BGP announcements so they can announce their prefixes with a next-hop IP in the new IP range. Unfortunately, doing spot checks only about 22% of members seem to have done the secondary IPv4 setup yet based on ping results. If you have not yet put your new IP addresses on a secondary IP on your interface, please do this as-soon-as-possible. If you do not, and another member does shift their prefix announcement, your network will have reachability issues to the other member, trying to get to an IP address your router doesn't know how to reach. Again, here is the cutover schedule that was emailed out: Addition of Address Secondary: before 10/1/2012 New Prefix Announcements: after 10/1/2012 Final use of old IP address next-hop: before 11/30/2012 Removal of old IP address range: after 12/1/2012 Project End: 12/31/2012 ######################################################################## To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1

Oct. 1, 2012

Re: Record MICE Traffic

by Frank Bulk

No problem, Mike, I didn't take it rudely. I already emailed Marty answers to his questions offlist. Frank -----Original Message----- From: MICE Discuss [mailto:MICE-DISCUSS@LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET] On Behalf Of Mike Horwath Sent: Wednesday, September 26, 2012 11:30 AM To: MICE-DISCUSS(a)LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET Subject: Re: [MICE-DISCUSS] Record MICE Traffic On Tue, Sep 25, 2012 at 09:09:40AM +0000, Frank Bulk wrote: > Will do. Frank, I need to apologize, text has no inflection and that came through as a little terse, rude. Not my full intent. (which actually means: yes, you should talk to Akamai, cause us on the list can't do shit about it) -- Mike Horwath ipHouse - Welcome home! drechsau(a)iphouse.net The universe is an island, surrounded by whatever it is that surrounds universes. - Berkeley Fortune ######################################################################## To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1 ######################################################################## To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1

Sept. 27, 2012

Re: Record MICE Traffic

by Hannigan, Martin

On 9/26/12 6:30 PM, "Mike Horwath" <drechsau(a)IPHOUSE.NET> wrote: > On Tue, Sep 25, 2012 at 09:09:40AM +0000, Frank Bulk wrote: >> Will do. > > Frank, I need to apologize, text has no inflection and that came > through as a little terse, rude. > > Not my full intent. > > (which actually means: yes, you should talk to Akamai, cause us on the > list can't do shit about it) I read the list. If I'm not traveling, something I am doing quite a bit recently e.g I'm in Amsterdam as we speak attending the RIPE meeting, I can usually respond rapidly. You can _always_ contact us directly if I am not around at noc(a)akamai.com 24/7 and ask them for help as well. Best, -M< ######################################################################## To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1

Sept. 26, 2012

Re: Record MICE Traffic

by Mike Horwath

On Tue, Sep 25, 2012 at 09:09:40AM +0000, Frank Bulk wrote: > Will do. Frank, I need to apologize, text has no inflection and that came through as a little terse, rude. Not my full intent. (which actually means: yes, you should talk to Akamai, cause us on the list can't do shit about it) -- Mike Horwath ipHouse - Welcome home! drechsau(a)iphouse.net The universe is an island, surrounded by whatever it is that surrounds universes. - Berkeley Fortune ######################################################################## To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1

Sept. 26, 2012

Re: cogent?

by Dan Olsen

Seen some funny looking latency heading out to des Moines seems to have cleaned up Dan Olsen- General Manager Windomnet 443 10th Street, PO box 38 Windom MN 56101 Southwest MN Broadband Services 110 South Hwy 86, PO Box 1006, Lakefield MN 56150 Voice 507-832-8007 From: MICE Discuss [mailto:MICE-DISCUSS@LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET] On Behalf Of Ryan Goldberg Sent: Wednesday, September 26, 2012 10:07 AM To: MICE-DISCUSS(a)LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET Subject: [MICE-DISCUSS] cogent? Anybody having noticing any funny business going in/out cogent? Thanks- Ryan No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2012.0.2221 / Virus Database: 2441/5293 - Release Date: 09/26/12 _____ To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS <http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1> &A=1 ######################################################################## To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1

Sept. 26, 2012

cogent?

by Ryan Goldberg

Anybody having noticing any funny business going in/out cogent? Thanks- Ryan ######################################################################## To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1

Sept. 26, 2012

Re: Current SC Candidate List

by Hannigan, Martin

On 9/25/12 3:04 PM, "Jay Hanke" <jayhanke(a)MANKATONETWORKS.NET> wrote: > Here is what I have so far: > > Shaun Carlson Arvig > Dan Boehlke Ties > Steve Ulrich Cisco > Martin Hannigan Akamai <-- > Ryan Goldberg Compudyne > > If I missed you or you would like to join the list email me at > peering(a)micemn.net > Actually, I'm going to withdraw. My impression was that you were short. That's a healthy list with lots of local people and that's even better. Best, -M< ######################################################################## To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1

Sept. 25, 2012

Current SC Candidate List

by Jay Hanke

Here is what I have so far: Shaun Carlson Arvig Dan Boehlke Ties Steve Ulrich Cisco Martin Hannigan Akamai Ryan Goldberg Compudyne If I missed you or you would like to join the list email me at peering(a)micemn.net Thanks! Jay ######################################################################## To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1

Sept. 25, 2012

Re: Record MICE Traffic

by Hannigan, Martin

On 9/24/12 12:14 AM, "Frank Bulk" <fbulk(a)MYPREMIERONLINE.COM> wrote: > So why isn't su.itunes.apple.com resolving to my close Akamai cluster? > > Frank > We don't have the infrastructure for SSL at MICE/Cologix and also not at most of the on-net systems some of you have hence it's off-net. If you want to send me the IP address that you resolve for that host and some demonstrative traceroutes, I'm check into it. Best, -M< > -----Original Message----- > From: MICE Discuss [mailto:MICE-DISCUSS@LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET] On Behalf Of Doug > McIntyre > Sent: Thursday, September 20, 2012 8:57 AM > To: MICE-DISCUSS(a)LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET > Subject: Re: [MICE-DISCUSS] Record MICE Traffic > > On Thu, Sep 20, 2012 at 07:41:40AM -0500, Mike O'Connor wrote: >> also add "app updates" to the pile. not sure whether all of these are >> triggered by IOS 6, but a bunch of apps have failed after trying to do their >> downloads. the "big" Apple ones failed first, the dozen or so "little" ones >> are coming up on the hit parade now and they're failing one by one. >> >> however i think the bottleneck is at the App Store end. are they using >> Akamai? > > App store content is coming through Akamai, but the failures I'm getting > seem to be coming from an akamaiedge device. (which I thought was > more just a proxy through to Apple rather than CDN, don't know where > the problem may be). > > Doing some SSL traces of what my iPhone is doing... > > Specificly, https://su.itunes.apple.com/ is timing out in the SSL handshake > during the failures. > > The HTTPS connection failed out for SSL: Received close_notify during > handshake > > The actual App content for what I upgraded came from > http://a1128.phobos.apple.com/ > http://a1746.phobos.apple.com/ > > which are Akamai CDN, which hit the MICE Akamai cluster. > > All the other Apple URLs seem to work just fine. Its that su.itunes.apple.com > akamaiedge host that isn't keeping up with the load. ######################################################################## To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1

Sept. 25, 2012

Re: Record MICE Traffic

by Frank Bulk

Will do. Frank -----Original Message----- From: MICE Discuss [mailto:MICE-DISCUSS@LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET] On Behalf Of Mike Horwath Sent: Sunday, September 23, 2012 10:50 PM To: MICE-DISCUSS(a)LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET Subject: Re: [MICE-DISCUSS] Record MICE Traffic Ask Akamai directly? -- Mike Horwath via iPad 2, electric boogaloo! ######################################################################## To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1 ######################################################################## To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1

Sept. 25, 2012

Re: Record MICE Traffic

by Mike Horwath

Ask Akamai directly? -- Mike Horwath via iPad 2, electric boogaloo! ######################################################################## To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1

Sept. 24, 2012

Re: Record MICE Traffic

by Frank Bulk

So why isn't su.itunes.apple.com resolving to my close Akamai cluster? Frank -----Original Message----- From: MICE Discuss [mailto:MICE-DISCUSS@LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET] On Behalf Of Doug McIntyre Sent: Thursday, September 20, 2012 8:57 AM To: MICE-DISCUSS(a)LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET Subject: Re: [MICE-DISCUSS] Record MICE Traffic On Thu, Sep 20, 2012 at 07:41:40AM -0500, Mike O'Connor wrote: > also add "app updates" to the pile. not sure whether all of these are triggered by IOS 6, but a bunch of apps have failed after trying to do their downloads. the "big" Apple ones failed first, the dozen or so "little" ones are coming up on the hit parade now and they're failing one by one. > > however i think the bottleneck is at the App Store end. are they using Akamai? App store content is coming through Akamai, but the failures I'm getting seem to be coming from an akamaiedge device. (which I thought was more just a proxy through to Apple rather than CDN, don't know where the problem may be). Doing some SSL traces of what my iPhone is doing... Specificly, https://su.itunes.apple.com/ is timing out in the SSL handshake during the failures. The HTTPS connection failed out for SSL: Received close_notify during handshake The actual App content for what I upgraded came from http://a1128.phobos.apple.com/ http://a1746.phobos.apple.com/ which are Akamai CDN, which hit the MICE Akamai cluster. All the other Apple URLs seem to work just fine. Its that su.itunes.apple.com akamaiedge host that isn't keeping up with the load. -- Doug McIntyre <merlyn(a)iphouse.net> -- ipHouse/Goldengate/Bitstream/ProNS -- Network Engineer/Provisioning/Jack of all Trades ######################################################################## To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1 ######################################################################## To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1

Sept. 23, 2012

Re: [MICE-ANNOUNCE] MICE UG 7 Elections

by Ryan Goldberg

I'll do it. Doesn't sound like, uh, fun, but I'll try anything once. My beanie is in the ring. Ryan -----Original Message----- From: MICE Discuss [mailto:MICE-DISCUSS@LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET] On Behalf Of Mike Horwath Sent: Thursday, September 20, 2012 10:44 PM To: MICE-DISCUSS(a)LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET Subject: Re: [MICE-DISCUSS] [MICE-ANNOUNCE] MICE UG 7 Elections Concur and I thank you for stepping up anyway. You're good people. And no. Mr. Hemphill did not ay me to say that. -- Mike Horwath via iPad 2, electric boogaloo! ######################################################################## To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1 ######################################################################## To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1

Sept. 23, 2012

MICE Meetings

by Jay Hanke

I'll be in the Fargo area October 25-26 if anyone is interested in a MICE presentation for their company. -- Jay Hanke CTO, CCIE #19093 Mankato Networks LLC PO Box 54 619 S Front St Mankato, MN 56001-3838 Google 530-618-2398 jayhanke(a)mankatonetworks.net http://www.mankatonetworks.com ######################################################################## To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1

Sept. 21, 2012

Re: MICE UG 7 Agenda Items

by Jay Hanke

On Fri, Sep 21, 2012 at 1:12 PM, Larry Patterson <larry(a)atomicdata.com> wrote: > How long does the UG meeting usually last? I have a training commitment > until 4:00pm. I'd love to attend, even if I only catch the later half > (assuming it lasts a couple of hours). They usually go until 7:30 or so. The social at the end is the best part. ######################################################################## To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1

Sept. 21, 2012

Re: MICE UG 7 Agenda Items

by Larry Patterson

How long does the UG meeting usually last? I have a training commitment until 4:00pm. I'd love to attend, even if I only catch the later half (assuming it lasts a couple of hours). On 9/21/12 1:09 PM, "Jay Hanke" <jayhanke(a)MANKATONETWORKS.NET> wrote: >Here's a preliminary agenda for the UG meeting. Please let me know >what should be added. > >-Steering Committee Election >-Switch Migration Summary (Anthony/Mike B) >-IP address Migration (Anthony/Doug) >-Financial Summary >-Operating Agreement Update >-ConnectMN Presentation >-Refreshments Courtesy of CNS > >-- >Jay Hanke >CTO, CCIE #19093 >Mankato Networks LLC >PO Box 54 >619 S Front St >Mankato, MN 56001-3838 >Google 530-618-2398 >jayhanke(a)mankatonetworks.net >http://www.mankatonetworks.com > >######################################################################## > >To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: >http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1 ######################################################################## To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1

Sept. 21, 2012

MICE UG 7 Agenda Items

by Jay Hanke

Here's a preliminary agenda for the UG meeting. Please let me know what should be added. -Steering Committee Election -Switch Migration Summary (Anthony/Mike B) -IP address Migration (Anthony/Doug) -Financial Summary -Operating Agreement Update -ConnectMN Presentation -Refreshments Courtesy of CNS -- Jay Hanke CTO, CCIE #19093 Mankato Networks LLC PO Box 54 619 S Front St Mankato, MN 56001-3838 Google 530-618-2398 jayhanke(a)mankatonetworks.net http://www.mankatonetworks.com ######################################################################## To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1

Sept. 21, 2012

Re: [MICE-ANNOUNCE] MICE UG 7 Elections

by Mike Horwath

Concur and I thank you for stepping up anyway. You're good people. And no. Mr. Hemphill did not ay me to say that. -- Mike Horwath via iPad 2, electric boogaloo! ######################################################################## To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1

Sept. 21, 2012

Re: [MICE-ANNOUNCE] MICE UG 7 Elections

by Owen DeLong

If you have trouble finding volunteers, I will step up. However, I do not think that HE should hold two seats simultaneously unless necessary. Owen On Sep 20, 2012, at 15:45 , Jay Hanke <jayhanke(a)mankatonetworks.net> wrote: > We have one seat open on the MICE Steering Committee and we are > looking for volunteers. > > The SC set the direction of the exchange and deals with all the > business stuff required to keep the exchange operational. The > technical work is almost all handled by individual volunteers. > > There is no requirement to be a MICE Member to serve on the SC. Mike > Horwath is currently termed out. Jay Hanke is also termed out and will > vacate his seat at the next UG this Spring. > > If you would like to serve or know someone who would please email us > at peering(a)micemn.net or post to the discus list. We will vote in > person at the MICE UG meeting on October 3rd. Each connected AS will > receive one vote. If your organization cannot attend in person, please > arrange a proxy to vote for you. > > Thanks! > > The Steering Committee > > ######################################################################## > > To unsubscribe from the MICE-ANNOUNCE list, click the following link: > &*TICKET_URL(MICE-ANNOUNCE,SIGNOFF); ######################################################################## To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1

Sept. 21, 2012

Re: MICE UG 7 Elections

by Mike Horwath

On Thu, Sep 20, 2012 at 05:45:37PM -0500, Jay Hanke wrote: > Mike Horwath is currently termed out. I WIN! WHOOP! Mike O'Connor for president! (and no, Tom and Nevin, you can't just renominate me, cause I just made up the rule that I can't be renominated) -- Mike Horwath ipHouse - Welcome home! drechsau(a)iphouse.net The universe is an island, surrounded by whatever it is that surrounds universes. - Berkeley Fortune ######################################################################## To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1

Sept. 20, 2012

MICE UG 7 Elections

by Jay Hanke

We have one seat open on the MICE Steering Committee and we are looking for volunteers. The SC set the direction of the exchange and deals with all the business stuff required to keep the exchange operational. The technical work is almost all handled by individual volunteers. There is no requirement to be a MICE Member to serve on the SC. Mike Horwath is currently termed out. Jay Hanke is also termed out and will vacate his seat at the next UG this Spring. If you would like to serve or know someone who would please email us at peering(a)micemn.net or post to the discus list. We will vote in person at the MICE UG meeting on October 3rd. Each connected AS will receive one vote. If your organization cannot attend in person, please arrange a proxy to vote for you. Thanks! The Steering Committee ######################################################################## To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1

Sept. 20, 2012