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Re: MICE UG 13 - Duluth July 24th Note 2PM start
by Mike Wilker
15011, none this time.
Thank You,
Mike Wilker
CTO
( Office: (507) 214-0259
- Email: mwilker(a)jagcom.net
www.JagCom.net <http://www.jagcom.net/>
213 South Oak Avenue Owatonna, MN 55060
On Fri, Jul 18, 2014 at 8:12 AM, Shaun Carlson <shaun.carlson(a)arvig.com>
wrote:
> All,
>
> In order to get a good head count for planning, can you respond with your
> ASN and how many people will be attending the Duluth meeting?
>
> Thanks!
>
> s
>
>
>
> *Shaun Carlson *Network Engineering Manager | Arvig
> ph: (218) 346-8673 | em: shaun.carlson(a)arvig.com
>
>
> On Tue, Jul 8, 2014 at 1:01 PM, Mike Hemphill <mike.hemphill(a)cologix.com>
> wrote:
>
>> Good Afternoon All!
>>
>>
>>
>> MICE UG 13 has been scheduled, as follows:
>>
>>
>>
>> Date: Thursday, July 24th
>>
>> Time: 2:00 pm (1400 Hours) David Farmer has the facility reserved until
>> 5PM
>>
>> Location: University of Minnesota, Duluth campus, Griggs Center, located
>> in the *Kirby Student Center (KSC) * http://www.d.umn.edu/maps/KSC/
>>
>>
>>
>> Please send your agenda items when you have a chance!
>>
>>
>>
>> Also please invite business & other entities that may have an interest in
>> connecting to MICE.
>>
>> Our goal is to extend the reach of MICE connectivity to outstate
>> institutions & companies.
>>
>>
>>
>> Thanks!
>>
>> Reid, Shaun & Mike
>>
>>
>>
>> *Mike Hemphill*
>> *General Manager | **Cologix, Inc. <http://www.cologix.com/>*
>>
>>
>> *511 11th Ave S, Suite 450 | Minneapolis, MN 55415P: 1+612.333.1922 | M:
>> 1+612.812.5242 mike.hemphill(a)cologix.com <mike.hemphill(a)cologix.com>*
>>
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July 21, 2014
Re: IPv6 neighbor solicitation at the exchange
by Rob Mosher
You shouldn't be grouping neighbor discovery in the same rate limits as
other type of icmpv6. If someone starts pinging your router at a high
rate or if there is a routing loop that generates a bunch of time
exceeded messages it will cause your neighbor discovery to fail and will
be unable to reach your peers. Those are just two examples, but you
really need neighbor discovery to be handled elsewhere.
--
Rob Mosher
Senior Network and Software Engineer
Hurricane Electric / AS6939
On 7/17/2014 5:07 PM, James Stahr wrote:
> First off, Did anyone make any changes on 07/15/2014 around 08:00?
>
> The reason is that I think I've resolved an issue with our IPv6
> peering with the MICE route servers, Charter, and TDS and I'm looking
> for a larger audience to see if it's my issue or perhaps an issue at
> the exchange. I believe it to be the latter, but I'm not an IPv6 expert.
>
> Starting two days ago around 8am CDT, we started experiencing BGP
> timeouts on some of our IPv6 BGP sessions. I was able to work around
> the issue by removing our COPP policy and the BGP sessions were stable
> for 24 hours. Reapplied the policy, sessions started to drop again.
> Looked at the policy to see which category is being exceeded, it's not
> the routing section which allows BGP/BFD/etc, but the ICMP-v6 one:
>
>
> ipv6 access-list COPP-icmp-v6
> remark ICMP type 1/3,2,3/0,3/1,4/0,4/1,4/2,130,143
> permit icmp any any destination-unreachable
> permit icmp any any packet-too-big
> permit icmp any any time-exceeded
> permit icmp any any parameter-problem
> remark nd-na, nd-ns, ra, rs
> permit icmp any any nd-na
> permit icmp any any nd-ns
> permit icmp any any router-advertisement
> permit icmp any any router-solicitation
> remark MLD - query, report_v2
> permit icmp any any mld-query
> permit icmp any any 143
>
>
> which is being policed like this:
>
> class Icmp-v6
> police 32000 60000 120000 conform-action transmit exceed-action drop
>
> I've worked around the issue by making a 4x increase in the policing,
> but the question I have is what happened at the exchange to provoke my
> COPP policy? Alternatively, is this normal or indicate who has the
> problem:
>
>
>
> r-pop-min-1#deb ipv6 icmp
> ICMP Packet debugging is on
> r-pop-min-1#
> Jul 17 14:36:08.143 CDT: ICMPv6: Received N-Solicit,
> Src=FE80::56E0:3200:50CE:4178, Dst=FF02::1:FF00:1
> Jul 17 14:36:08.178 CDT: ICMPv6: Received N-Solicit,
> Src=FE80::221:9BFF:FE8A:D29D, Dst=FF02::1:FF00:1
> Jul 17 14:36:08.178 CDT: ICMPv6: Received N-Solicit,
> Src=FE80::221:9BFF:FE8A:D29D, Dst=FF02::1:FF00:1
> Jul 17 14:36:08.178 CDT: ICMPv6: Received N-Solicit,
> Src=FE80::221:9BFF:FE8A:D29D, Dst=FF02::1:FF00:1
> Jul 17 14:36:08.178 CDT: ICMPv6: Received N-Solicit,
> Src=FE80::221:9BFF:FE8A:D29D, Dst=FF02::1:FF00:1
> Jul 17 14:36:08.178 CDT: ICMPv6: Received N-Solicit,
> Src=FE80::221:9BFF:FE8A:D29D, Dst=FF02::1:FF00:1
> Jul 17 14:36:08.178 CDT: ICMPv6: Received N-Solicit,
> Src=FE80::221:9BFF:FE8A:D29D, Dst=FF02::1:FF00:1
> Jul 17 14:36:08.281 CDT: ICMPv6: Received N-Solicit,
> Src=2001:504:27::D1AF:0:2, Dst=FF02::1:FF00:1
> Jul 17 14:36:08.281 CDT: ICMPv6: Received N-Solicit,
> Src=2001:504:27::D1AF:0:2, Dst=FF02::1:FF00:1
> Jul 17 14:36:08.285 CDT: ICMPv6: Received N-Solicit,
> Src=2001:504:27::D1AF:0:2, Dst=FF02::1:FF00:1
> Jul 17 14:36:08.359 CDT: ICMPv6: Received N-Solicit,
> Src=2001:504:27::D1AF:0:2, Dst=FF02::1:FF00:1
> Jul 17 14:36:08.433 CDT: ICMPv6: Received N-Solicit,
> Src=FE80::221:9BFF:FE8A:D29D, Dst=FF02::1:FF00:1
> Jul 17 14:36:08.435 CDT: ICMPv6: Sent N-Solicit,
> Src=FE80::CA4C:75FF:FE23:805, Dst=2001:504:27::8252:0:1
> Jul 17 14:36:08.459 CDT: ICMPv6: Received N-Advert,
> Src=2001:504:27::8252:0:1, Dst=FE80::CA4C:75FF:FE23:805
> Jul 17 14:36:08.535 CDT: ICMPv6: Received N-Solicit,
> Src=FE80::221:9BFF:FE8A:D29D, Dst=FF02::1:FF00:1
> Jul 17 14:36:08.535 CDT: ICMPv6: Received N-Solicit,
> Src=FE80::221:9BFF:FE8A:D29D, Dst=FF02::1:FF00:1
> Jul 17 14:36:08.539 CDT: ICMPv6: Received N-Solicit,
> Src=2001:504:27::D1AF:0:2, Dst=FF02::1:FF00:1
> Jul 17 14:36:08.559 CDT: ICMPv6: Received N-Solicit,
> Src=2001:504:27::8252:0:1, Dst=FF02::1:FF00:1
> Jul 17 14:36:08.586 CDT: ICMPv6: Received N-Solicit,
> Src=2001:504:27::B664:0:1, Dst=FF02::1:FF00:1
> Jul 17 14:36:08.617 CDT: ICMPv6: Received N-Solicit,
> Src=2001:504:27::D1AF:0:2, Dst=FF02::1:FF00:1
> Jul 17 14:36:08.687 CDT: ICMPv6: Received N-Solicit,
> Src=2001:504:27::D1AF:0:2, Dst=FF02::1:FF00:1
> Jul 17 14:36:08.782 CDT: ICMPv6: Received N-Solicit,
> Src=2001:504:27::3BA3:0:1, Dst=FF02::1:FF00:1
> Jul 17 14:36:08.783 CDT: ICMPv6: Received N-Solicit,
> Src=2001:504:27::3BA3:0:1, Dst=FF02::1:FF00:1
> Jul 17 14:36:08.783 CDT: ICMPv6: Received N-Solicit,
> Src=2001:504:27::3BA3:0:1, Dst=FF02::1:FF00:1
> r-pop-min-1#
> Jul 17 14:36:08.842 CDT: ICMPv6: Received N-Solicit,
> Src=2001:504:27::D1AF:0:2, Dst=FF02::1:FF00:1
> Jul 17 14:36:08.990 CDT: ICMPv6: Received N-Solicit,
> Src=2001:504:27::D1AF:0:2, Dst=FF02::1:FF00:1
> Jul 17 14:36:09.028 CDT: ICMPv6: Received N-Solicit,
> Src=2001:504:27::D1AF:0:2, Dst=FF02::1:FF00:1
> Jul 17 14:36:09.070 CDT: ICMPv6: Received N-Solicit,
> Src=2001:504:27::D1AF:0:2, Dst=FF02::1:FF00:1
> Jul 17 14:36:09.148 CDT: ICMPv6: Received N-Solicit,
> Src=FE80::221:9BFF:FE8A:D29D, Dst=FF02::1:FF00:1
> Jul 17 14:36:09.191 CDT: ICMPv6: Received N-Solicit,
> Src=FE80::221:9BFF:FE8A:D29D, Dst=FF02::1:FF00:1
> Jul 17 14:36:09.191 CDT: ICMPv6: Received N-Solicit,
> Src=FE80::221:9BFF:FE8A:D29D, Dst=FF02::1:FF00:1
> Jul 17 14:36:09.191 CDT: ICMPv6: Received N-Solicit,
> Src=FE80::221:9BFF:FE8A:D29D, Dst=FF02::1:FF00:1
> Jul 17 14:36:09.191 CDT: ICMPv6: Received N-Solicit,
> Src=FE80::221:9BFF:FE8A:D29D, Dst=FF02::1:FF00:1
> Jul 17 14:36:09.191 CDT: ICMPv6: Received N-Solicit,
> Src=FE80::221:9BFF:FE8A:D29D, Dst=FF02::1:FF00:1
> Jul 17 14:36:09.191 CDT: ICMPv6: Received N-Solicit,
> Src=FE80::221:9BFF:FE8A:D29D, Dst=FF02::1:FF00:1
> Jul 17 14:36:09.203 CDT: ICMPv6: Received N-Solicit,
> Src=FE80::221:9BFF:FE8A:D29D, Dst=FF02::1:FF00:1
> Jul 17 14:36:09.322 CDT: ICMPv6: Received N-Solicit,
> Src=2001:504:27::D1AF:0:2, Dst=FF02::1:FF00:1
> Jul 17 14:36:09.322 CDT: ICMPv6: Received N-Solicit,
> Src=2001:504:27::D1AF:0:2, Dst=FF02::1:FF00:1
> Jul 17 14:36:09.327 CDT: ICMPv6: Received N-Solicit,
> Src=2001:504:27::D1AF:0:2, Dst=FF02::1:FF00:1
> Jul 17 14:36:09.399 CDT: ICMPv6: Received N-Solicit,
> Src=2001:504:27::D1AF:0:2, Dst=FF02::1:FF00:1
> Jul 17 14:36:09.439 CDT: ICMPv6: Received N-Solicit,
> Src=FE80::221:9BFF:FE8A:D29D, Dst=FF02::1:FF00:1
> Jul 17 14:36:09.481 CDT: ICMPv6: Received N-Solicit,
> Src=2001:504:27::D1AF:0:2, Dst=FF02::1:FF00:1
> Jul 17 14:36:09.533 CDT: ICMPv6: Received N-Solicit,
> Src=2001:504:27::B664:0:1, Dst=FF02::1:FF00:1
> Jul 17 14:36:09.572 CDT: ICMPv6: Received N-Solicit,
> Src=FE80::221:9BFF:FE8A:D29D, Dst=FF02::1:FF00:1
> Jul 17 14:36:09.572 CDT: ICMPv6: Received N-Solicit,
> Src=FE80::221:9BFF:FE8A:D29D, Dst=FF02::1:FF00:1
> Jul 17 14:36:09.581 CDT: ICMPv6: Received N-Solicit,
> Src=2001:504:27::D1AF:0:2, Dst=FF02::1:FF00:1
> Jul 17 14:36:09.608 CDT: ICMPv6: Received N-Solicit,
> Src=FE80::2E21:72FF:FE71:37B1, Dst=FF02::1:FF00:1
> Jul 17 14:36:09.613 CDT: ICMPv6: Received N-Solicit,
> Src=2001:504:27::8252:0:1, Dst=FF02::1:FF00:1
> r-pop-min-1#
> Jul 17 14:36:09.659 CDT: ICMPv6: Received N-Solicit,
> Src=2001:504:27::D1AF:0:2, Dst=FF02::1:FF00:1
> Jul 17 14:36:09.831 CDT: ICMPv6: Received N-Solicit,
> Src=2001:504:27::3BA3:0:1, Dst=FF02::1:FF00:1
> Jul 17 14:36:09.831 CDT: ICMPv6: Received N-Solicit,
> Src=2001:504:27::3BA3:0:1, Dst=FF02::1:FF00:1
> Jul 17 14:36:09.831 CDT: ICMPv6: Received N-Solicit,
> Src=2001:504:27::3BA3:0:1, Dst=FF02::1:FF00:1
> Jul 17 14:36:09.884 CDT: ICMPv6: Received N-Solicit,
> Src=2001:504:27::D1AF:0:2, Dst=FF02::1:FF00:1
> Jul 17 14:36:10.069 CDT: ICMPv6: Received N-Solicit,
> Src=2001:504:27::D1AF:0:2, Dst=FF02::1:FF00:1
> Jul 17 14:36:10.172 CDT: ICMPv6: Received N-Solicit,
> Src=FE80::221:9BFF:FE8A:D29D, Dst=FF02::1:FF00:1
> Jul 17 14:36:10.223 CDT: ICMPv6: Received N-Solicit,
> Src=FE80::221:9BFF:FE8A:D29D, Dst=FF02::1:FF00:1
> Jul 17 14:36:10.223 CDT: ICMPv6: Received N-Solicit,
> Src=FE80::221:9BFF:FE8A:D29D, Dst=FF02::1:FF00:1
> Jul 17 14:36:10.223 CDT: ICMPv6: Received N-Solicit,
> Src=FE80::221:9BFF:FE8A:D29D, Dst=FF02::1:FF00:1
> Jul 17 14:36:10.223 CDT: ICMPv6: Received N-Solicit,
> Src=FE80::221:9BFF:FE8A:D29D, Dst=FF02::1:FF00:1
> Jul 17 14:36:10.223 CDT: ICMPv6: Received N-Solicit,
> Src=FE80::221:9BFF:FE8A:D29D, Dst=FF02::1:FF00:1
> Jul 17 14:36:10.223 CDT: ICMPv6: Received N-Solicit,
> Src=FE80::221:9BFF:FE8A:D29D, Dst=FF02::1:FF00:1
> Jul 17 14:36:10.223 CDT: ICMPv6: Received N-Solicit,
> Src=FE80::221:9BFF:FE8A:D29D, Dst=FF02::1:FF00:1
> Jul 17 14:36:10.240 CDT: ICMPv6: Received N-Solicit,
> Src=2001:504:27::D1AF:0:2, Dst=FF02::1:FF00:1
> Jul 17 14:36:10.320 CDT: ICMPv6: Received N-Solicit,
> Src=2001:504:27::D1AF:0:2, Dst=FF02::1:FF00:1
> Jul 17 14:36:10.364 CDT: ICMPv6: Received N-Solicit,
> Src=2001:504:27::D1AF:0:2, Dst=FF02::1:FF00:1
> Jul 17 14:36:10.441 CDT: ICMPv6: Received N-Solicit,
> Src=2001:504:27::D1AF:0:2, Dst=FF02::1:FF00:1
> Jul 17 14:36:10.521 CDT: ICMPv6: Received N-Solicit,
> Src=2001:504:27::D1AF:0:2, Dst=FF02::1:FF00:1
> Jul 17 14:36:10.573 CDT: ICMPv6: Received N-Solicit,
> Src=FE80::221:9BFF:FE8A:D29D, Dst=FF02::1:FF00:1
> Jul 17 14:36:10.573 CDT: ICMPv6: Received N-Solicit,
> Src=FE80::221:9BFF:FE8A:D29D, Dst=FF02::1:FF00:1
> Jul 17 14:36:10.588 CDT: ICMPv6: Received N-Solicit,
> Src=2001:504:27::B664:0:1, Dst=FF02::1:FF00:1
> Jul 17 14:36:10.622 CDT: ICMPv6: Received N-Solicit,
> Src=2001:504:27::D1AF:0:2, Dst=FF02::1:FF00:1
> Jul 17 14:36:10.659 CDT: ICMPv6: Received N-Solicit,
> Src=2001:504:27::8252:0:1, Dst=FF02::1:FF00:1
> Jul 17 14:36:10.684 CDT: ICMPv6: Received N-Solicit,
> Src=FE80::221:9BFF:FE8A:D29D, Dst=FF02::1:FF00:1
> Jul 17 14:36:10.817 CDT: ICMPv6: Received N-Solicit,
> Src=2001:504:27::D1AF:0:2, Dst=FF02::1:FF00:1
> Jul 17 14:36:10.830 CDT: ICMPv6: Received N-Solicit,
> Src=2001:504:27::3BA3:0:1, Dst=FF02::1:FF00:1
> Jul 17 14:36:10.830 CDT: ICMPv6: Received N-Solicit,
> Src=2001:504:27::3BA3:0:1, Dst=FF02::1:FF00:1
> Jul 17 14:36:10.830 CDT: ICMPv6: Received N-Solicit,
> Src=2001:504:27::3BA3:0:1, Dst=FF02::1:FF00:1
> Jul 17 14:36:10.853 CDT: ICMPv6: Received type 130,
> Src=FE80::21B:DFF:FEE7:15C0, Dst=FF02::1
> r-pop-min-1#
> Jul 17 14:36:10.908 CDT: ICMPv6: Received N-Solicit,
> Src=2001:504:27::D1AF:0:2, Dst=FF02::1:FF00:1
> Jul 17 14:36:10.925 CDT: ICMPv6: Received N-Solicit,
> Src=2001:504:27::D1AF:0:2, Dst=FF02::1:FF00:1
>
> I'm thinking that the answer is that this is not normal, as it looks
> like I'm getting duplicate solicitations in the same second.
>
> -James
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July 18, 2014
Re: IPv6 neighbor solicitation at the exchange
by Koch, Andrew
The multiple NS is expected - as we all have the last 2 hextets of our assigned address as 0:1, we all end up in multicast group ff02::1:ff00:1 as our solicited node multicast (uses the last 6 hex digits in this format - ff02::1:ffxx:xxxx)
So, your address 2001:504:27::e0f:0:1, ends with the last 6 digits 00:0001 and creating a solicited node multicast you listen on ff02::1:ff00:0001.
I end up the same with our global unicast address 2001:504:27::1055:0:1.
Poor numbering scheme results in everyone in the same multicast group.
My link local address is fe80::21d:a2ff:fef2:a32a, so I also join group ff02::1:fff2:a32a, but I am the only member there as my link local is the only that ends in f2:a32a.
HTH,
Andy Koch
TDS Telecom - IP Network Operations
andrew.koch(a)tdstelecom.com
Desk: 608-664-4694
Cell: 608-616-0072
Andy
> -----Original Message-----
> From: MICE Discuss [mailto:MICE-DISCUSS@LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET] On Behalf Of
> James Stahr
> Sent: Thursday, July 17, 2014 16:07
> To: MICE-DISCUSS(a)LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET
> Subject: [MICE-DISCUSS] IPv6 neighbor solicitation at the exchange
>
> First off, Did anyone make any changes on 07/15/2014 around 08:00?
>
> The reason is that I think I've resolved an issue with our IPv6 peering
> with the MICE route servers, Charter, and TDS and I'm looking for a
> larger audience to see if it's my issue or perhaps an issue at the
> exchange. I believe it to be the latter, but I'm not an IPv6 expert.
>
> Starting two days ago around 8am CDT, we started experiencing BGP
> timeouts on some of our IPv6 BGP sessions. I was able to work around
> the issue by removing our COPP policy and the BGP sessions were stable
> for 24 hours. Reapplied the policy, sessions started to drop again.
> Looked at the policy to see which category is being exceeded, it's not
> the routing section which allows BGP/BFD/etc, but the ICMP-v6 one:
>
>
> ipv6 access-list COPP-icmp-v6
> remark ICMP type 1/3,2,3/0,3/1,4/0,4/1,4/2,130,143
> permit icmp any any destination-unreachable
> permit icmp any any packet-too-big
> permit icmp any any time-exceeded
> permit icmp any any parameter-problem
> remark nd-na, nd-ns, ra, rs
> permit icmp any any nd-na
> permit icmp any any nd-ns
> permit icmp any any router-advertisement
> permit icmp any any router-solicitation
> remark MLD - query, report_v2
> permit icmp any any mld-query
> permit icmp any any 143
>
>
> which is being policed like this:
>
> class Icmp-v6
> police 32000 60000 120000 conform-action transmit exceed-action drop
>
> I've worked around the issue by making a 4x increase in the policing,
> but the question I have is what happened at the exchange to provoke my
> COPP policy? Alternatively, is this normal or indicate who has the
> problem:
>
>
>
> r-pop-min-1#deb ipv6 icmp
> ICMP Packet debugging is on
> r-pop-min-1#
> Jul 17 14:36:08.143 CDT: ICMPv6: Received N-Solicit,
> Src=FE80::56E0:3200:50CE:4178, Dst=FF02::1:FF00:1
> Jul 17 14:36:08.178 CDT: ICMPv6: Received N-Solicit,
> Src=FE80::221:9BFF:FE8A:D29D, Dst=FF02::1:FF00:1
> Jul 17 14:36:08.178 CDT: ICMPv6: Received N-Solicit,
> Src=FE80::221:9BFF:FE8A:D29D, Dst=FF02::1:FF00:1
> Jul 17 14:36:08.178 CDT: ICMPv6: Received N-Solicit,
> Src=FE80::221:9BFF:FE8A:D29D, Dst=FF02::1:FF00:1
> Jul 17 14:36:08.178 CDT: ICMPv6: Received N-Solicit,
> Src=FE80::221:9BFF:FE8A:D29D, Dst=FF02::1:FF00:1
> Jul 17 14:36:08.178 CDT: ICMPv6: Received N-Solicit,
> Src=FE80::221:9BFF:FE8A:D29D, Dst=FF02::1:FF00:1
> Jul 17 14:36:08.178 CDT: ICMPv6: Received N-Solicit,
> Src=FE80::221:9BFF:FE8A:D29D, Dst=FF02::1:FF00:1
> Jul 17 14:36:08.281 CDT: ICMPv6: Received N-Solicit,
> Src=2001:504:27::D1AF:0:2, Dst=FF02::1:FF00:1
> Jul 17 14:36:08.281 CDT: ICMPv6: Received N-Solicit,
> Src=2001:504:27::D1AF:0:2, Dst=FF02::1:FF00:1
> Jul 17 14:36:08.285 CDT: ICMPv6: Received N-Solicit,
> Src=2001:504:27::D1AF:0:2, Dst=FF02::1:FF00:1
> Jul 17 14:36:08.359 CDT: ICMPv6: Received N-Solicit,
> Src=2001:504:27::D1AF:0:2, Dst=FF02::1:FF00:1
> Jul 17 14:36:08.433 CDT: ICMPv6: Received N-Solicit,
> Src=FE80::221:9BFF:FE8A:D29D, Dst=FF02::1:FF00:1
> Jul 17 14:36:08.435 CDT: ICMPv6: Sent N-Solicit,
> Src=FE80::CA4C:75FF:FE23:805, Dst=2001:504:27::8252:0:1
> Jul 17 14:36:08.459 CDT: ICMPv6: Received N-Advert,
> Src=2001:504:27::8252:0:1, Dst=FE80::CA4C:75FF:FE23:805
> Jul 17 14:36:08.535 CDT: ICMPv6: Received N-Solicit,
> Src=FE80::221:9BFF:FE8A:D29D, Dst=FF02::1:FF00:1
> Jul 17 14:36:08.535 CDT: ICMPv6: Received N-Solicit,
> Src=FE80::221:9BFF:FE8A:D29D, Dst=FF02::1:FF00:1
> Jul 17 14:36:08.539 CDT: ICMPv6: Received N-Solicit,
> Src=2001:504:27::D1AF:0:2, Dst=FF02::1:FF00:1
> Jul 17 14:36:08.559 CDT: ICMPv6: Received N-Solicit,
> Src=2001:504:27::8252:0:1, Dst=FF02::1:FF00:1
> Jul 17 14:36:08.586 CDT: ICMPv6: Received N-Solicit,
> Src=2001:504:27::B664:0:1, Dst=FF02::1:FF00:1
> Jul 17 14:36:08.617 CDT: ICMPv6: Received N-Solicit,
> Src=2001:504:27::D1AF:0:2, Dst=FF02::1:FF00:1
> Jul 17 14:36:08.687 CDT: ICMPv6: Received N-Solicit,
> Src=2001:504:27::D1AF:0:2, Dst=FF02::1:FF00:1
> Jul 17 14:36:08.782 CDT: ICMPv6: Received N-Solicit,
> Src=2001:504:27::3BA3:0:1, Dst=FF02::1:FF00:1
> Jul 17 14:36:08.783 CDT: ICMPv6: Received N-Solicit,
> Src=2001:504:27::3BA3:0:1, Dst=FF02::1:FF00:1
> Jul 17 14:36:08.783 CDT: ICMPv6: Received N-Solicit,
> Src=2001:504:27::3BA3:0:1, Dst=FF02::1:FF00:1
> r-pop-min-1#
> Jul 17 14:36:08.842 CDT: ICMPv6: Received N-Solicit,
> Src=2001:504:27::D1AF:0:2, Dst=FF02::1:FF00:1
> Jul 17 14:36:08.990 CDT: ICMPv6: Received N-Solicit,
> Src=2001:504:27::D1AF:0:2, Dst=FF02::1:FF00:1
> Jul 17 14:36:09.028 CDT: ICMPv6: Received N-Solicit,
> Src=2001:504:27::D1AF:0:2, Dst=FF02::1:FF00:1
> Jul 17 14:36:09.070 CDT: ICMPv6: Received N-Solicit,
> Src=2001:504:27::D1AF:0:2, Dst=FF02::1:FF00:1
> Jul 17 14:36:09.148 CDT: ICMPv6: Received N-Solicit,
> Src=FE80::221:9BFF:FE8A:D29D, Dst=FF02::1:FF00:1
> Jul 17 14:36:09.191 CDT: ICMPv6: Received N-Solicit,
> Src=FE80::221:9BFF:FE8A:D29D, Dst=FF02::1:FF00:1
> Jul 17 14:36:09.191 CDT: ICMPv6: Received N-Solicit,
> Src=FE80::221:9BFF:FE8A:D29D, Dst=FF02::1:FF00:1
> Jul 17 14:36:09.191 CDT: ICMPv6: Received N-Solicit,
> Src=FE80::221:9BFF:FE8A:D29D, Dst=FF02::1:FF00:1
> Jul 17 14:36:09.191 CDT: ICMPv6: Received N-Solicit,
> Src=FE80::221:9BFF:FE8A:D29D, Dst=FF02::1:FF00:1
> Jul 17 14:36:09.191 CDT: ICMPv6: Received N-Solicit,
> Src=FE80::221:9BFF:FE8A:D29D, Dst=FF02::1:FF00:1
> Jul 17 14:36:09.191 CDT: ICMPv6: Received N-Solicit,
> Src=FE80::221:9BFF:FE8A:D29D, Dst=FF02::1:FF00:1
> Jul 17 14:36:09.203 CDT: ICMPv6: Received N-Solicit,
> Src=FE80::221:9BFF:FE8A:D29D, Dst=FF02::1:FF00:1
> Jul 17 14:36:09.322 CDT: ICMPv6: Received N-Solicit,
> Src=2001:504:27::D1AF:0:2, Dst=FF02::1:FF00:1
> Jul 17 14:36:09.322 CDT: ICMPv6: Received N-Solicit,
> Src=2001:504:27::D1AF:0:2, Dst=FF02::1:FF00:1
> Jul 17 14:36:09.327 CDT: ICMPv6: Received N-Solicit,
> Src=2001:504:27::D1AF:0:2, Dst=FF02::1:FF00:1
> Jul 17 14:36:09.399 CDT: ICMPv6: Received N-Solicit,
> Src=2001:504:27::D1AF:0:2, Dst=FF02::1:FF00:1
> Jul 17 14:36:09.439 CDT: ICMPv6: Received N-Solicit,
> Src=FE80::221:9BFF:FE8A:D29D, Dst=FF02::1:FF00:1
> Jul 17 14:36:09.481 CDT: ICMPv6: Received N-Solicit,
> Src=2001:504:27::D1AF:0:2, Dst=FF02::1:FF00:1
> Jul 17 14:36:09.533 CDT: ICMPv6: Received N-Solicit,
> Src=2001:504:27::B664:0:1, Dst=FF02::1:FF00:1
> Jul 17 14:36:09.572 CDT: ICMPv6: Received N-Solicit,
> Src=FE80::221:9BFF:FE8A:D29D, Dst=FF02::1:FF00:1
> Jul 17 14:36:09.572 CDT: ICMPv6: Received N-Solicit,
> Src=FE80::221:9BFF:FE8A:D29D, Dst=FF02::1:FF00:1
> Jul 17 14:36:09.581 CDT: ICMPv6: Received N-Solicit,
> Src=2001:504:27::D1AF:0:2, Dst=FF02::1:FF00:1
> Jul 17 14:36:09.608 CDT: ICMPv6: Received N-Solicit,
> Src=FE80::2E21:72FF:FE71:37B1, Dst=FF02::1:FF00:1
> Jul 17 14:36:09.613 CDT: ICMPv6: Received N-Solicit,
> Src=2001:504:27::8252:0:1, Dst=FF02::1:FF00:1
> r-pop-min-1#
> Jul 17 14:36:09.659 CDT: ICMPv6: Received N-Solicit,
> Src=2001:504:27::D1AF:0:2, Dst=FF02::1:FF00:1
> Jul 17 14:36:09.831 CDT: ICMPv6: Received N-Solicit,
> Src=2001:504:27::3BA3:0:1, Dst=FF02::1:FF00:1
> Jul 17 14:36:09.831 CDT: ICMPv6: Received N-Solicit,
> Src=2001:504:27::3BA3:0:1, Dst=FF02::1:FF00:1
> Jul 17 14:36:09.831 CDT: ICMPv6: Received N-Solicit,
> Src=2001:504:27::3BA3:0:1, Dst=FF02::1:FF00:1
> Jul 17 14:36:09.884 CDT: ICMPv6: Received N-Solicit,
> Src=2001:504:27::D1AF:0:2, Dst=FF02::1:FF00:1
> Jul 17 14:36:10.069 CDT: ICMPv6: Received N-Solicit,
> Src=2001:504:27::D1AF:0:2, Dst=FF02::1:FF00:1
> Jul 17 14:36:10.172 CDT: ICMPv6: Received N-Solicit,
> Src=FE80::221:9BFF:FE8A:D29D, Dst=FF02::1:FF00:1
> Jul 17 14:36:10.223 CDT: ICMPv6: Received N-Solicit,
> Src=FE80::221:9BFF:FE8A:D29D, Dst=FF02::1:FF00:1
> Jul 17 14:36:10.223 CDT: ICMPv6: Received N-Solicit,
> Src=FE80::221:9BFF:FE8A:D29D, Dst=FF02::1:FF00:1
> Jul 17 14:36:10.223 CDT: ICMPv6: Received N-Solicit,
> Src=FE80::221:9BFF:FE8A:D29D, Dst=FF02::1:FF00:1
> Jul 17 14:36:10.223 CDT: ICMPv6: Received N-Solicit,
> Src=FE80::221:9BFF:FE8A:D29D, Dst=FF02::1:FF00:1
> Jul 17 14:36:10.223 CDT: ICMPv6: Received N-Solicit,
> Src=FE80::221:9BFF:FE8A:D29D, Dst=FF02::1:FF00:1
> Jul 17 14:36:10.223 CDT: ICMPv6: Received N-Solicit,
> Src=FE80::221:9BFF:FE8A:D29D, Dst=FF02::1:FF00:1
> Jul 17 14:36:10.223 CDT: ICMPv6: Received N-Solicit,
> Src=FE80::221:9BFF:FE8A:D29D, Dst=FF02::1:FF00:1
> Jul 17 14:36:10.240 CDT: ICMPv6: Received N-Solicit,
> Src=2001:504:27::D1AF:0:2, Dst=FF02::1:FF00:1
> Jul 17 14:36:10.320 CDT: ICMPv6: Received N-Solicit,
> Src=2001:504:27::D1AF:0:2, Dst=FF02::1:FF00:1
> Jul 17 14:36:10.364 CDT: ICMPv6: Received N-Solicit,
> Src=2001:504:27::D1AF:0:2, Dst=FF02::1:FF00:1
> Jul 17 14:36:10.441 CDT: ICMPv6: Received N-Solicit,
> Src=2001:504:27::D1AF:0:2, Dst=FF02::1:FF00:1
> Jul 17 14:36:10.521 CDT: ICMPv6: Received N-Solicit,
> Src=2001:504:27::D1AF:0:2, Dst=FF02::1:FF00:1
> Jul 17 14:36:10.573 CDT: ICMPv6: Received N-Solicit,
> Src=FE80::221:9BFF:FE8A:D29D, Dst=FF02::1:FF00:1
> Jul 17 14:36:10.573 CDT: ICMPv6: Received N-Solicit,
> Src=FE80::221:9BFF:FE8A:D29D, Dst=FF02::1:FF00:1
> Jul 17 14:36:10.588 CDT: ICMPv6: Received N-Solicit,
> Src=2001:504:27::B664:0:1, Dst=FF02::1:FF00:1
> Jul 17 14:36:10.622 CDT: ICMPv6: Received N-Solicit,
> Src=2001:504:27::D1AF:0:2, Dst=FF02::1:FF00:1
> Jul 17 14:36:10.659 CDT: ICMPv6: Received N-Solicit,
> Src=2001:504:27::8252:0:1, Dst=FF02::1:FF00:1
> Jul 17 14:36:10.684 CDT: ICMPv6: Received N-Solicit,
> Src=FE80::221:9BFF:FE8A:D29D, Dst=FF02::1:FF00:1
> Jul 17 14:36:10.817 CDT: ICMPv6: Received N-Solicit,
> Src=2001:504:27::D1AF:0:2, Dst=FF02::1:FF00:1
> Jul 17 14:36:10.830 CDT: ICMPv6: Received N-Solicit,
> Src=2001:504:27::3BA3:0:1, Dst=FF02::1:FF00:1
> Jul 17 14:36:10.830 CDT: ICMPv6: Received N-Solicit,
> Src=2001:504:27::3BA3:0:1, Dst=FF02::1:FF00:1
> Jul 17 14:36:10.830 CDT: ICMPv6: Received N-Solicit,
> Src=2001:504:27::3BA3:0:1, Dst=FF02::1:FF00:1
> Jul 17 14:36:10.853 CDT: ICMPv6: Received type 130,
> Src=FE80::21B:DFF:FEE7:15C0, Dst=FF02::1
> r-pop-min-1#
> Jul 17 14:36:10.908 CDT: ICMPv6: Received N-Solicit,
> Src=2001:504:27::D1AF:0:2, Dst=FF02::1:FF00:1
> Jul 17 14:36:10.925 CDT: ICMPv6: Received N-Solicit,
> Src=2001:504:27::D1AF:0:2, Dst=FF02::1:FF00:1
>
> I'm thinking that the answer is that this is not normal, as it looks
> like I'm getting duplicate solicitations in the same second.
>
> -James
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July 18, 2014
Re: IPv6 neighbor solicitation at the exchange
by James Stahr
On 07/18/2014 10:01 AM, Derek Poehls wrote:
> We turned up that morning, and looking at logs that’s about the time I
> put my IPv6 address on. Looking at my debug it’s similar. I took my
> IPv6 address off the interface, please let me know if that resolved it.
>
> I have a ticket in with support.
>
> Thanks,
>
>
I had a side email going with TDS on this issue before I emailed the
MICE list. Their explanation is that this is actually expected behavior
because of how the exchange has decided to assign IPv6 addresses to
exchange members and how solicited node multicast works - everyone has
the same last 24 bits (actually 32 bits) of their IPv6 address, so we
all share the same solicited-node multicast address.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Solicited-node_multicast_address
> -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-
>
> *
> Derek Poehls*
> *NOC Supervisor/Senior Network Engineer*
> *(218) 284-5775*
>
> On Jul 17, 2014, at 4:07 PM, James Stahr <stahr(a)MAILBAG.COM
> <mailto:stahr@MAILBAG.COM>> wrote:
>
>> First off, Did anyone make any changes on 07/15/2014 around 08:00?
>>
>> The reason is that I think I've resolved an issue with our IPv6
>> peering with the MICE route servers, Charter, and TDS and I'm looking
>> for a larger audience to see if it's my issue or perhaps an issue at
>> the exchange. I believe it to be the latter, but I'm not an IPv6 expert.
>>
>> Starting two days ago around 8am CDT, we started experiencing BGP
>> timeouts on some of our IPv6 BGP sessions. I was able to work around
>> the issue by removing our COPP policy and the BGP sessions were
>> stable for 24 hours. Reapplied the policy, sessions started to drop
>> again. Looked at the policy to see which category is being exceeded,
>> it's not the routing section which allows BGP/BFD/etc, but the
>> ICMP-v6 one:
>>
>>
>> ipv6 access-list COPP-icmp-v6
>> remark ICMP type 1/3,2,3/0,3/1,4/0,4/1,4/2,130,143
>> permit icmp any any destination-unreachable
>> permit icmp any any packet-too-big
>> permit icmp any any time-exceeded
>> permit icmp any any parameter-problem
>> remark nd-na, nd-ns, ra, rs
>> permit icmp any any nd-na
>> permit icmp any any nd-ns
>> permit icmp any any router-advertisement
>> permit icmp any any router-solicitation
>> remark MLD - query, report_v2
>> permit icmp any any mld-query
>> permit icmp any any 143
>>
>>
>> which is being policed like this:
>>
>> class Icmp-v6
>> police 32000 60000 120000 conform-action transmit exceed-action drop
>>
>> I've worked around the issue by making a 4x increase in the policing,
>> but the question I have is what happened at the exchange to provoke
>> my COPP policy? Alternatively, is this normal or indicate who has
>> the problem:
>>
>>
>>
>> r-pop-min-1#deb ipv6 icmp
>> ICMP Packet debugging is on
>> r-pop-min-1#
>> Jul 17 14:36:08.143 CDT: ICMPv6: Received N-Solicit,
>> Src=FE80::56E0:3200:50CE:4178, Dst=FF02::1:FF00:1
>> Jul 17 14:36:08.178 CDT: ICMPv6: Received N-Solicit,
>> Src=FE80::221:9BFF:FE8A:D29D, Dst=FF02::1:FF00:1
>> Jul 17 14:36:08.178 CDT: ICMPv6: Received N-Solicit,
>> Src=FE80::221:9BFF:FE8A:D29D, Dst=FF02::1:FF00:1
>> Jul 17 14:36:08.178 CDT: ICMPv6: Received N-Solicit,
>> Src=FE80::221:9BFF:FE8A:D29D, Dst=FF02::1:FF00:1
>> Jul 17 14:36:08.178 CDT: ICMPv6: Received N-Solicit,
>> Src=FE80::221:9BFF:FE8A:D29D, Dst=FF02::1:FF00:1
>> Jul 17 14:36:08.178 CDT: ICMPv6: Received N-Solicit,
>> Src=FE80::221:9BFF:FE8A:D29D, Dst=FF02::1:FF00:1
>> Jul 17 14:36:08.178 CDT: ICMPv6: Received N-Solicit,
>> Src=FE80::221:9BFF:FE8A:D29D, Dst=FF02::1:FF00:1
>> Jul 17 14:36:08.281 CDT: ICMPv6: Received N-Solicit,
>> Src=2001:504:27::D1AF:0:2, Dst=FF02::1:FF00:1
>> Jul 17 14:36:08.281 CDT: ICMPv6: Received N-Solicit,
>> Src=2001:504:27::D1AF:0:2, Dst=FF02::1:FF00:1
>> Jul 17 14:36:08.285 CDT: ICMPv6: Received N-Solicit,
>> Src=2001:504:27::D1AF:0:2, Dst=FF02::1:FF00:1
>> Jul 17 14:36:08.359 CDT: ICMPv6: Received N-Solicit,
>> Src=2001:504:27::D1AF:0:2, Dst=FF02::1:FF00:1
>> Jul 17 14:36:08.433 CDT: ICMPv6: Received N-Solicit,
>> Src=FE80::221:9BFF:FE8A:D29D, Dst=FF02::1:FF00:1
>> Jul 17 14:36:08.435 CDT: ICMPv6: Sent N-Solicit,
>> Src=FE80::CA4C:75FF:FE23:805, Dst=2001:504:27::8252:0:1
>> Jul 17 14:36:08.459 CDT: ICMPv6: Received N-Advert,
>> Src=2001:504:27::8252:0:1, Dst=FE80::CA4C:75FF:FE23:805
>> Jul 17 14:36:08.535 CDT: ICMPv6: Received N-Solicit,
>> Src=FE80::221:9BFF:FE8A:D29D, Dst=FF02::1:FF00:1
>> Jul 17 14:36:08.535 CDT: ICMPv6: Received N-Solicit,
>> Src=FE80::221:9BFF:FE8A:D29D, Dst=FF02::1:FF00:1
>> Jul 17 14:36:08.539 CDT: ICMPv6: Received N-Solicit,
>> Src=2001:504:27::D1AF:0:2, Dst=FF02::1:FF00:1
>> Jul 17 14:36:08.559 CDT: ICMPv6: Received N-Solicit,
>> Src=2001:504:27::8252:0:1, Dst=FF02::1:FF00:1
>> Jul 17 14:36:08.586 CDT: ICMPv6: Received N-Solicit,
>> Src=2001:504:27::B664:0:1, Dst=FF02::1:FF00:1
>> Jul 17 14:36:08.617 CDT: ICMPv6: Received N-Solicit,
>> Src=2001:504:27::D1AF:0:2, Dst=FF02::1:FF00:1
>> Jul 17 14:36:08.687 CDT: ICMPv6: Received N-Solicit,
>> Src=2001:504:27::D1AF:0:2, Dst=FF02::1:FF00:1
>> Jul 17 14:36:08.782 CDT: ICMPv6: Received N-Solicit,
>> Src=2001:504:27::3BA3:0:1, Dst=FF02::1:FF00:1
>> Jul 17 14:36:08.783 CDT: ICMPv6: Received N-Solicit,
>> Src=2001:504:27::3BA3:0:1, Dst=FF02::1:FF00:1
>> Jul 17 14:36:08.783 CDT: ICMPv6: Received N-Solicit,
>> Src=2001:504:27::3BA3:0:1, Dst=FF02::1:FF00:1
>> r-pop-min-1#
>> Jul 17 14:36:08.842 CDT: ICMPv6: Received N-Solicit,
>> Src=2001:504:27::D1AF:0:2, Dst=FF02::1:FF00:1
>> Jul 17 14:36:08.990 CDT: ICMPv6: Received N-Solicit,
>> Src=2001:504:27::D1AF:0:2, Dst=FF02::1:FF00:1
>> Jul 17 14:36:09.028 CDT: ICMPv6: Received N-Solicit,
>> Src=2001:504:27::D1AF:0:2, Dst=FF02::1:FF00:1
>> Jul 17 14:36:09.070 CDT: ICMPv6: Received N-Solicit,
>> Src=2001:504:27::D1AF:0:2, Dst=FF02::1:FF00:1
>> Jul 17 14:36:09.148 CDT: ICMPv6: Received N-Solicit,
>> Src=FE80::221:9BFF:FE8A:D29D, Dst=FF02::1:FF00:1
>> Jul 17 14:36:09.191 CDT: ICMPv6: Received N-Solicit,
>> Src=FE80::221:9BFF:FE8A:D29D, Dst=FF02::1:FF00:1
>> Jul 17 14:36:09.191 CDT: ICMPv6: Received N-Solicit,
>> Src=FE80::221:9BFF:FE8A:D29D, Dst=FF02::1:FF00:1
>> Jul 17 14:36:09.191 CDT: ICMPv6: Received N-Solicit,
>> Src=FE80::221:9BFF:FE8A:D29D, Dst=FF02::1:FF00:1
>> Jul 17 14:36:09.191 CDT: ICMPv6: Received N-Solicit,
>> Src=FE80::221:9BFF:FE8A:D29D, Dst=FF02::1:FF00:1
>> Jul 17 14:36:09.191 CDT: ICMPv6: Received N-Solicit,
>> Src=FE80::221:9BFF:FE8A:D29D, Dst=FF02::1:FF00:1
>> Jul 17 14:36:09.191 CDT: ICMPv6: Received N-Solicit,
>> Src=FE80::221:9BFF:FE8A:D29D, Dst=FF02::1:FF00:1
>> Jul 17 14:36:09.203 CDT: ICMPv6: Received N-Solicit,
>> Src=FE80::221:9BFF:FE8A:D29D, Dst=FF02::1:FF00:1
>> Jul 17 14:36:09.322 CDT: ICMPv6: Received N-Solicit,
>> Src=2001:504:27::D1AF:0:2, Dst=FF02::1:FF00:1
>> Jul 17 14:36:09.322 CDT: ICMPv6: Received N-Solicit,
>> Src=2001:504:27::D1AF:0:2, Dst=FF02::1:FF00:1
>> Jul 17 14:36:09.327 CDT: ICMPv6: Received N-Solicit,
>> Src=2001:504:27::D1AF:0:2, Dst=FF02::1:FF00:1
>> Jul 17 14:36:09.399 CDT: ICMPv6: Received N-Solicit,
>> Src=2001:504:27::D1AF:0:2, Dst=FF02::1:FF00:1
>> Jul 17 14:36:09.439 CDT: ICMPv6: Received N-Solicit,
>> Src=FE80::221:9BFF:FE8A:D29D, Dst=FF02::1:FF00:1
>> Jul 17 14:36:09.481 CDT: ICMPv6: Received N-Solicit,
>> Src=2001:504:27::D1AF:0:2, Dst=FF02::1:FF00:1
>> Jul 17 14:36:09.533 CDT: ICMPv6: Received N-Solicit,
>> Src=2001:504:27::B664:0:1, Dst=FF02::1:FF00:1
>> Jul 17 14:36:09.572 CDT: ICMPv6: Received N-Solicit,
>> Src=FE80::221:9BFF:FE8A:D29D, Dst=FF02::1:FF00:1
>> Jul 17 14:36:09.572 CDT: ICMPv6: Received N-Solicit,
>> Src=FE80::221:9BFF:FE8A:D29D, Dst=FF02::1:FF00:1
>> Jul 17 14:36:09.581 CDT: ICMPv6: Received N-Solicit,
>> Src=2001:504:27::D1AF:0:2, Dst=FF02::1:FF00:1
>> Jul 17 14:36:09.608 CDT: ICMPv6: Received N-Solicit,
>> Src=FE80::2E21:72FF:FE71:37B1, Dst=FF02::1:FF00:1
>> Jul 17 14:36:09.613 CDT: ICMPv6: Received N-Solicit,
>> Src=2001:504:27::8252:0:1, Dst=FF02::1:FF00:1
>> r-pop-min-1#
>> Jul 17 14:36:09.659 CDT: ICMPv6: Received N-Solicit,
>> Src=2001:504:27::D1AF:0:2, Dst=FF02::1:FF00:1
>> Jul 17 14:36:09.831 CDT: ICMPv6: Received N-Solicit,
>> Src=2001:504:27::3BA3:0:1, Dst=FF02::1:FF00:1
>> Jul 17 14:36:09.831 CDT: ICMPv6: Received N-Solicit,
>> Src=2001:504:27::3BA3:0:1, Dst=FF02::1:FF00:1
>> Jul 17 14:36:09.831 CDT: ICMPv6: Received N-Solicit,
>> Src=2001:504:27::3BA3:0:1, Dst=FF02::1:FF00:1
>> Jul 17 14:36:09.884 CDT: ICMPv6: Received N-Solicit,
>> Src=2001:504:27::D1AF:0:2, Dst=FF02::1:FF00:1
>> Jul 17 14:36:10.069 CDT: ICMPv6: Received N-Solicit,
>> Src=2001:504:27::D1AF:0:2, Dst=FF02::1:FF00:1
>> Jul 17 14:36:10.172 CDT: ICMPv6: Received N-Solicit,
>> Src=FE80::221:9BFF:FE8A:D29D, Dst=FF02::1:FF00:1
>> Jul 17 14:36:10.223 CDT: ICMPv6: Received N-Solicit,
>> Src=FE80::221:9BFF:FE8A:D29D, Dst=FF02::1:FF00:1
>> Jul 17 14:36:10.223 CDT: ICMPv6: Received N-Solicit,
>> Src=FE80::221:9BFF:FE8A:D29D, Dst=FF02::1:FF00:1
>> Jul 17 14:36:10.223 CDT: ICMPv6: Received N-Solicit,
>> Src=FE80::221:9BFF:FE8A:D29D, Dst=FF02::1:FF00:1
>> Jul 17 14:36:10.223 CDT: ICMPv6: Received N-Solicit,
>> Src=FE80::221:9BFF:FE8A:D29D, Dst=FF02::1:FF00:1
>> Jul 17 14:36:10.223 CDT: ICMPv6: Received N-Solicit,
>> Src=FE80::221:9BFF:FE8A:D29D, Dst=FF02::1:FF00:1
>> Jul 17 14:36:10.223 CDT: ICMPv6: Received N-Solicit,
>> Src=FE80::221:9BFF:FE8A:D29D, Dst=FF02::1:FF00:1
>> Jul 17 14:36:10.223 CDT: ICMPv6: Received N-Solicit,
>> Src=FE80::221:9BFF:FE8A:D29D, Dst=FF02::1:FF00:1
>> Jul 17 14:36:10.240 CDT: ICMPv6: Received N-Solicit,
>> Src=2001:504:27::D1AF:0:2, Dst=FF02::1:FF00:1
>> Jul 17 14:36:10.320 CDT: ICMPv6: Received N-Solicit,
>> Src=2001:504:27::D1AF:0:2, Dst=FF02::1:FF00:1
>> Jul 17 14:36:10.364 CDT: ICMPv6: Received N-Solicit,
>> Src=2001:504:27::D1AF:0:2, Dst=FF02::1:FF00:1
>> Jul 17 14:36:10.441 CDT: ICMPv6: Received N-Solicit,
>> Src=2001:504:27::D1AF:0:2, Dst=FF02::1:FF00:1
>> Jul 17 14:36:10.521 CDT: ICMPv6: Received N-Solicit,
>> Src=2001:504:27::D1AF:0:2, Dst=FF02::1:FF00:1
>> Jul 17 14:36:10.573 CDT: ICMPv6: Received N-Solicit,
>> Src=FE80::221:9BFF:FE8A:D29D, Dst=FF02::1:FF00:1
>> Jul 17 14:36:10.573 CDT: ICMPv6: Received N-Solicit,
>> Src=FE80::221:9BFF:FE8A:D29D, Dst=FF02::1:FF00:1
>> Jul 17 14:36:10.588 CDT: ICMPv6: Received N-Solicit,
>> Src=2001:504:27::B664:0:1, Dst=FF02::1:FF00:1
>> Jul 17 14:36:10.622 CDT: ICMPv6: Received N-Solicit,
>> Src=2001:504:27::D1AF:0:2, Dst=FF02::1:FF00:1
>> Jul 17 14:36:10.659 CDT: ICMPv6: Received N-Solicit,
>> Src=2001:504:27::8252:0:1, Dst=FF02::1:FF00:1
>> Jul 17 14:36:10.684 CDT: ICMPv6: Received N-Solicit,
>> Src=FE80::221:9BFF:FE8A:D29D, Dst=FF02::1:FF00:1
>> Jul 17 14:36:10.817 CDT: ICMPv6: Received N-Solicit,
>> Src=2001:504:27::D1AF:0:2, Dst=FF02::1:FF00:1
>> Jul 17 14:36:10.830 CDT: ICMPv6: Received N-Solicit,
>> Src=2001:504:27::3BA3:0:1, Dst=FF02::1:FF00:1
>> Jul 17 14:36:10.830 CDT: ICMPv6: Received N-Solicit,
>> Src=2001:504:27::3BA3:0:1, Dst=FF02::1:FF00:1
>> Jul 17 14:36:10.830 CDT: ICMPv6: Received N-Solicit,
>> Src=2001:504:27::3BA3:0:1, Dst=FF02::1:FF00:1
>> Jul 17 14:36:10.853 CDT: ICMPv6: Received type 130,
>> Src=FE80::21B:DFF:FEE7:15C0, Dst=FF02::1
>> r-pop-min-1#
>> Jul 17 14:36:10.908 CDT: ICMPv6: Received N-Solicit,
>> Src=2001:504:27::D1AF:0:2, Dst=FF02::1:FF00:1
>> Jul 17 14:36:10.925 CDT: ICMPv6: Received N-Solicit,
>> Src=2001:504:27::D1AF:0:2, Dst=FF02::1:FF00:1
>>
>> I'm thinking that the answer is that this is not normal, as it looks
>> like I'm getting duplicate solicitations in the same second.
>>
>> -James
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July 18, 2014
Re: IPv6 neighbor solicitation at the exchange
by Derek Poehls
We turned up that morning, and looking at logs that’s about the time I put my IPv6 address on. Looking at my debug it’s similar. I took my IPv6 address off the interface, please let me know if that resolved it.
I have a ticket in with support.
Thanks,
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[cid:BADDE7B8-E50D-42F2-8E20-30FD7618126E]
Derek Poehls
NOC Supervisor/Senior Network Engineer
(218) 284-5775
On Jul 17, 2014, at 4:07 PM, James Stahr <stahr(a)MAILBAG.COM<mailto:stahr@MAILBAG.COM>> wrote:
First off, Did anyone make any changes on 07/15/2014 around 08:00?
The reason is that I think I've resolved an issue with our IPv6 peering with the MICE route servers, Charter, and TDS and I'm looking for a larger audience to see if it's my issue or perhaps an issue at the exchange. I believe it to be the latter, but I'm not an IPv6 expert.
Starting two days ago around 8am CDT, we started experiencing BGP timeouts on some of our IPv6 BGP sessions. I was able to work around the issue by removing our COPP policy and the BGP sessions were stable for 24 hours. Reapplied the policy, sessions started to drop again. Looked at the policy to see which category is being exceeded, it's not the routing section which allows BGP/BFD/etc, but the ICMP-v6 one:
ipv6 access-list COPP-icmp-v6
remark ICMP type 1/3,2,3/0,3/1,4/0,4/1,4/2,130,143
permit icmp any any destination-unreachable
permit icmp any any packet-too-big
permit icmp any any time-exceeded
permit icmp any any parameter-problem
remark nd-na, nd-ns, ra, rs
permit icmp any any nd-na
permit icmp any any nd-ns
permit icmp any any router-advertisement
permit icmp any any router-solicitation
remark MLD - query, report_v2
permit icmp any any mld-query
permit icmp any any 143
which is being policed like this:
class Icmp-v6
police 32000 60000 120000 conform-action transmit exceed-action drop
I've worked around the issue by making a 4x increase in the policing, but the question I have is what happened at the exchange to provoke my COPP policy? Alternatively, is this normal or indicate who has the problem:
r-pop-min-1#deb ipv6 icmp
ICMP Packet debugging is on
r-pop-min-1#
Jul 17 14:36:08.143 CDT: ICMPv6: Received N-Solicit, Src=FE80::56E0:3200:50CE:4178, Dst=FF02::1:FF00:1
Jul 17 14:36:08.178 CDT: ICMPv6: Received N-Solicit, Src=FE80::221:9BFF:FE8A:D29D, Dst=FF02::1:FF00:1
Jul 17 14:36:08.178 CDT: ICMPv6: Received N-Solicit, Src=FE80::221:9BFF:FE8A:D29D, Dst=FF02::1:FF00:1
Jul 17 14:36:08.178 CDT: ICMPv6: Received N-Solicit, Src=FE80::221:9BFF:FE8A:D29D, Dst=FF02::1:FF00:1
Jul 17 14:36:08.178 CDT: ICMPv6: Received N-Solicit, Src=FE80::221:9BFF:FE8A:D29D, Dst=FF02::1:FF00:1
Jul 17 14:36:08.178 CDT: ICMPv6: Received N-Solicit, Src=FE80::221:9BFF:FE8A:D29D, Dst=FF02::1:FF00:1
Jul 17 14:36:08.178 CDT: ICMPv6: Received N-Solicit, Src=FE80::221:9BFF:FE8A:D29D, Dst=FF02::1:FF00:1
Jul 17 14:36:08.281 CDT: ICMPv6: Received N-Solicit, Src=2001:504:27::D1AF:0:2, Dst=FF02::1:FF00:1
Jul 17 14:36:08.281 CDT: ICMPv6: Received N-Solicit, Src=2001:504:27::D1AF:0:2, Dst=FF02::1:FF00:1
Jul 17 14:36:08.285 CDT: ICMPv6: Received N-Solicit, Src=2001:504:27::D1AF:0:2, Dst=FF02::1:FF00:1
Jul 17 14:36:08.359 CDT: ICMPv6: Received N-Solicit, Src=2001:504:27::D1AF:0:2, Dst=FF02::1:FF00:1
Jul 17 14:36:08.433 CDT: ICMPv6: Received N-Solicit, Src=FE80::221:9BFF:FE8A:D29D, Dst=FF02::1:FF00:1
Jul 17 14:36:08.435 CDT: ICMPv6: Sent N-Solicit, Src=FE80::CA4C:75FF:FE23:805, Dst=2001:504:27::8252:0:1
Jul 17 14:36:08.459 CDT: ICMPv6: Received N-Advert, Src=2001:504:27::8252:0:1, Dst=FE80::CA4C:75FF:FE23:805
Jul 17 14:36:08.535 CDT: ICMPv6: Received N-Solicit, Src=FE80::221:9BFF:FE8A:D29D, Dst=FF02::1:FF00:1
Jul 17 14:36:08.535 CDT: ICMPv6: Received N-Solicit, Src=FE80::221:9BFF:FE8A:D29D, Dst=FF02::1:FF00:1
Jul 17 14:36:08.539 CDT: ICMPv6: Received N-Solicit, Src=2001:504:27::D1AF:0:2, Dst=FF02::1:FF00:1
Jul 17 14:36:08.559 CDT: ICMPv6: Received N-Solicit, Src=2001:504:27::8252:0:1, Dst=FF02::1:FF00:1
Jul 17 14:36:08.586 CDT: ICMPv6: Received N-Solicit, Src=2001:504:27::B664:0:1, Dst=FF02::1:FF00:1
Jul 17 14:36:08.617 CDT: ICMPv6: Received N-Solicit, Src=2001:504:27::D1AF:0:2, Dst=FF02::1:FF00:1
Jul 17 14:36:08.687 CDT: ICMPv6: Received N-Solicit, Src=2001:504:27::D1AF:0:2, Dst=FF02::1:FF00:1
Jul 17 14:36:08.782 CDT: ICMPv6: Received N-Solicit, Src=2001:504:27::3BA3:0:1, Dst=FF02::1:FF00:1
Jul 17 14:36:08.783 CDT: ICMPv6: Received N-Solicit, Src=2001:504:27::3BA3:0:1, Dst=FF02::1:FF00:1
Jul 17 14:36:08.783 CDT: ICMPv6: Received N-Solicit, Src=2001:504:27::3BA3:0:1, Dst=FF02::1:FF00:1
r-pop-min-1#
Jul 17 14:36:08.842 CDT: ICMPv6: Received N-Solicit, Src=2001:504:27::D1AF:0:2, Dst=FF02::1:FF00:1
Jul 17 14:36:08.990 CDT: ICMPv6: Received N-Solicit, Src=2001:504:27::D1AF:0:2, Dst=FF02::1:FF00:1
Jul 17 14:36:09.028 CDT: ICMPv6: Received N-Solicit, Src=2001:504:27::D1AF:0:2, Dst=FF02::1:FF00:1
Jul 17 14:36:09.070 CDT: ICMPv6: Received N-Solicit, Src=2001:504:27::D1AF:0:2, Dst=FF02::1:FF00:1
Jul 17 14:36:09.148 CDT: ICMPv6: Received N-Solicit, Src=FE80::221:9BFF:FE8A:D29D, Dst=FF02::1:FF00:1
Jul 17 14:36:09.191 CDT: ICMPv6: Received N-Solicit, Src=FE80::221:9BFF:FE8A:D29D, Dst=FF02::1:FF00:1
Jul 17 14:36:09.191 CDT: ICMPv6: Received N-Solicit, Src=FE80::221:9BFF:FE8A:D29D, Dst=FF02::1:FF00:1
Jul 17 14:36:09.191 CDT: ICMPv6: Received N-Solicit, Src=FE80::221:9BFF:FE8A:D29D, Dst=FF02::1:FF00:1
Jul 17 14:36:09.191 CDT: ICMPv6: Received N-Solicit, Src=FE80::221:9BFF:FE8A:D29D, Dst=FF02::1:FF00:1
Jul 17 14:36:09.191 CDT: ICMPv6: Received N-Solicit, Src=FE80::221:9BFF:FE8A:D29D, Dst=FF02::1:FF00:1
Jul 17 14:36:09.191 CDT: ICMPv6: Received N-Solicit, Src=FE80::221:9BFF:FE8A:D29D, Dst=FF02::1:FF00:1
Jul 17 14:36:09.203 CDT: ICMPv6: Received N-Solicit, Src=FE80::221:9BFF:FE8A:D29D, Dst=FF02::1:FF00:1
Jul 17 14:36:09.322 CDT: ICMPv6: Received N-Solicit, Src=2001:504:27::D1AF:0:2, Dst=FF02::1:FF00:1
Jul 17 14:36:09.322 CDT: ICMPv6: Received N-Solicit, Src=2001:504:27::D1AF:0:2, Dst=FF02::1:FF00:1
Jul 17 14:36:09.327 CDT: ICMPv6: Received N-Solicit, Src=2001:504:27::D1AF:0:2, Dst=FF02::1:FF00:1
Jul 17 14:36:09.399 CDT: ICMPv6: Received N-Solicit, Src=2001:504:27::D1AF:0:2, Dst=FF02::1:FF00:1
Jul 17 14:36:09.439 CDT: ICMPv6: Received N-Solicit, Src=FE80::221:9BFF:FE8A:D29D, Dst=FF02::1:FF00:1
Jul 17 14:36:09.481 CDT: ICMPv6: Received N-Solicit, Src=2001:504:27::D1AF:0:2, Dst=FF02::1:FF00:1
Jul 17 14:36:09.533 CDT: ICMPv6: Received N-Solicit, Src=2001:504:27::B664:0:1, Dst=FF02::1:FF00:1
Jul 17 14:36:09.572 CDT: ICMPv6: Received N-Solicit, Src=FE80::221:9BFF:FE8A:D29D, Dst=FF02::1:FF00:1
Jul 17 14:36:09.572 CDT: ICMPv6: Received N-Solicit, Src=FE80::221:9BFF:FE8A:D29D, Dst=FF02::1:FF00:1
Jul 17 14:36:09.581 CDT: ICMPv6: Received N-Solicit, Src=2001:504:27::D1AF:0:2, Dst=FF02::1:FF00:1
Jul 17 14:36:09.608 CDT: ICMPv6: Received N-Solicit, Src=FE80::2E21:72FF:FE71:37B1, Dst=FF02::1:FF00:1
Jul 17 14:36:09.613 CDT: ICMPv6: Received N-Solicit, Src=2001:504:27::8252:0:1, Dst=FF02::1:FF00:1
r-pop-min-1#
Jul 17 14:36:09.659 CDT: ICMPv6: Received N-Solicit, Src=2001:504:27::D1AF:0:2, Dst=FF02::1:FF00:1
Jul 17 14:36:09.831 CDT: ICMPv6: Received N-Solicit, Src=2001:504:27::3BA3:0:1, Dst=FF02::1:FF00:1
Jul 17 14:36:09.831 CDT: ICMPv6: Received N-Solicit, Src=2001:504:27::3BA3:0:1, Dst=FF02::1:FF00:1
Jul 17 14:36:09.831 CDT: ICMPv6: Received N-Solicit, Src=2001:504:27::3BA3:0:1, Dst=FF02::1:FF00:1
Jul 17 14:36:09.884 CDT: ICMPv6: Received N-Solicit, Src=2001:504:27::D1AF:0:2, Dst=FF02::1:FF00:1
Jul 17 14:36:10.069 CDT: ICMPv6: Received N-Solicit, Src=2001:504:27::D1AF:0:2, Dst=FF02::1:FF00:1
Jul 17 14:36:10.172 CDT: ICMPv6: Received N-Solicit, Src=FE80::221:9BFF:FE8A:D29D, Dst=FF02::1:FF00:1
Jul 17 14:36:10.223 CDT: ICMPv6: Received N-Solicit, Src=FE80::221:9BFF:FE8A:D29D, Dst=FF02::1:FF00:1
Jul 17 14:36:10.223 CDT: ICMPv6: Received N-Solicit, Src=FE80::221:9BFF:FE8A:D29D, Dst=FF02::1:FF00:1
Jul 17 14:36:10.223 CDT: ICMPv6: Received N-Solicit, Src=FE80::221:9BFF:FE8A:D29D, Dst=FF02::1:FF00:1
Jul 17 14:36:10.223 CDT: ICMPv6: Received N-Solicit, Src=FE80::221:9BFF:FE8A:D29D, Dst=FF02::1:FF00:1
Jul 17 14:36:10.223 CDT: ICMPv6: Received N-Solicit, Src=FE80::221:9BFF:FE8A:D29D, Dst=FF02::1:FF00:1
Jul 17 14:36:10.223 CDT: ICMPv6: Received N-Solicit, Src=FE80::221:9BFF:FE8A:D29D, Dst=FF02::1:FF00:1
Jul 17 14:36:10.223 CDT: ICMPv6: Received N-Solicit, Src=FE80::221:9BFF:FE8A:D29D, Dst=FF02::1:FF00:1
Jul 17 14:36:10.240 CDT: ICMPv6: Received N-Solicit, Src=2001:504:27::D1AF:0:2, Dst=FF02::1:FF00:1
Jul 17 14:36:10.320 CDT: ICMPv6: Received N-Solicit, Src=2001:504:27::D1AF:0:2, Dst=FF02::1:FF00:1
Jul 17 14:36:10.364 CDT: ICMPv6: Received N-Solicit, Src=2001:504:27::D1AF:0:2, Dst=FF02::1:FF00:1
Jul 17 14:36:10.441 CDT: ICMPv6: Received N-Solicit, Src=2001:504:27::D1AF:0:2, Dst=FF02::1:FF00:1
Jul 17 14:36:10.521 CDT: ICMPv6: Received N-Solicit, Src=2001:504:27::D1AF:0:2, Dst=FF02::1:FF00:1
Jul 17 14:36:10.573 CDT: ICMPv6: Received N-Solicit, Src=FE80::221:9BFF:FE8A:D29D, Dst=FF02::1:FF00:1
Jul 17 14:36:10.573 CDT: ICMPv6: Received N-Solicit, Src=FE80::221:9BFF:FE8A:D29D, Dst=FF02::1:FF00:1
Jul 17 14:36:10.588 CDT: ICMPv6: Received N-Solicit, Src=2001:504:27::B664:0:1, Dst=FF02::1:FF00:1
Jul 17 14:36:10.622 CDT: ICMPv6: Received N-Solicit, Src=2001:504:27::D1AF:0:2, Dst=FF02::1:FF00:1
Jul 17 14:36:10.659 CDT: ICMPv6: Received N-Solicit, Src=2001:504:27::8252:0:1, Dst=FF02::1:FF00:1
Jul 17 14:36:10.684 CDT: ICMPv6: Received N-Solicit, Src=FE80::221:9BFF:FE8A:D29D, Dst=FF02::1:FF00:1
Jul 17 14:36:10.817 CDT: ICMPv6: Received N-Solicit, Src=2001:504:27::D1AF:0:2, Dst=FF02::1:FF00:1
Jul 17 14:36:10.830 CDT: ICMPv6: Received N-Solicit, Src=2001:504:27::3BA3:0:1, Dst=FF02::1:FF00:1
Jul 17 14:36:10.830 CDT: ICMPv6: Received N-Solicit, Src=2001:504:27::3BA3:0:1, Dst=FF02::1:FF00:1
Jul 17 14:36:10.830 CDT: ICMPv6: Received N-Solicit, Src=2001:504:27::3BA3:0:1, Dst=FF02::1:FF00:1
Jul 17 14:36:10.853 CDT: ICMPv6: Received type 130, Src=FE80::21B:DFF:FEE7:15C0, Dst=FF02::1
r-pop-min-1#
Jul 17 14:36:10.908 CDT: ICMPv6: Received N-Solicit, Src=2001:504:27::D1AF:0:2, Dst=FF02::1:FF00:1
Jul 17 14:36:10.925 CDT: ICMPv6: Received N-Solicit, Src=2001:504:27::D1AF:0:2, Dst=FF02::1:FF00:1
I'm thinking that the answer is that this is not normal, as it looks like I'm getting duplicate solicitations in the same second.
-James
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July 18, 2014
Re: MICE UG 13 - Duluth July 24th Note 2PM start
by Mike Johnston
On 7/18/2014 8:12 AM, Shaun Carlson wrote:
>
> In order to get a good head count for planning, can you respond with
> your ASN and how many people will be attending the Duluth meeting?
33362: Two of us
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Re: MICE UG 13 - Duluth July 24th Note 2PM start
by Thomas Johnson
Eric Crist and myself will be driving up from the cities, AS62708.
On Fri, Jul 18, 2014 at 8:12 AM, Shaun Carlson <shaun.carlson(a)arvig.com> wrote:
> All,
>
> In order to get a good head count for planning, can you respond with your
> ASN and how many people will be attending the Duluth meeting?
>
> Thanks!
>
> s
>
>
> Shaun Carlson
> Network Engineering Manager | Arvig
> ph: (218) 346-8673 | em: shaun.carlson(a)arvig.com
>
>
> On Tue, Jul 8, 2014 at 1:01 PM, Mike Hemphill <mike.hemphill(a)cologix.com>
> wrote:
>>
>> Good Afternoon All!
>>
>>
>>
>> MICE UG 13 has been scheduled, as follows:
>>
>>
>>
>> Date: Thursday, July 24th
>>
>> Time: 2:00 pm (1400 Hours) David Farmer has the facility reserved until
>> 5PM
>>
>> Location: University of Minnesota, Duluth campus, Griggs Center, located
>> in the Kirby Student Center (KSC) http://www.d.umn.edu/maps/KSC/
>>
>>
>>
>> Please send your agenda items when you have a chance!
>>
>>
>>
>> Also please invite business & other entities that may have an interest in
>> connecting to MICE.
>>
>> Our goal is to extend the reach of MICE connectivity to outstate
>> institutions & companies.
>>
>>
>>
>> Thanks!
>>
>> Reid, Shaun & Mike
>>
>>
>>
>> Mike Hemphill
>> General Manager | Cologix, Inc.
>> 511 11th Ave S, Suite 450 | Minneapolis, MN 55415
>> P: 1+612.333.1922 | M: 1+612.812.5242
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Re: MICE UG 13 - Duluth July 24th Note 2PM start
by Eric Crist
AS62708. Two of us.
On Friday, July 18, 2014, Shaun Carlson <shaun.carlson(a)arvig.com> wrote:
> All,
>
> In order to get a good head count for planning, can you respond with your
> ASN and how many people will be attending the Duluth meeting?
>
> Thanks!
>
> s
>
>
>
> *Shaun Carlson *Network Engineering Manager | Arvig
> ph: (218) 346-8673 | em: shaun.carlson(a)arvig.com
> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','shaun.carlson(a)arvig.com');>
>
>
> On Tue, Jul 8, 2014 at 1:01 PM, Mike Hemphill <mike.hemphill(a)cologix.com
> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','mike.hemphill(a)cologix.com');>> wrote:
>
>> Good Afternoon All!
>>
>>
>>
>> MICE UG 13 has been scheduled, as follows:
>>
>>
>>
>> Date: Thursday, July 24th
>>
>> Time: 2:00 pm (1400 Hours) David Farmer has the facility reserved until
>> 5PM
>>
>> Location: University of Minnesota, Duluth campus, Griggs Center, located
>> in the *Kirby Student Center (KSC) * http://www.d.umn.edu/maps/KSC/
>>
>>
>>
>> Please send your agenda items when you have a chance!
>>
>>
>>
>> Also please invite business & other entities that may have an interest in
>> connecting to MICE.
>>
>> Our goal is to extend the reach of MICE connectivity to outstate
>> institutions & companies.
>>
>>
>>
>> Thanks!
>>
>> Reid, Shaun & Mike
>>
>>
>>
>> *Mike Hemphill*
>> *General Manager | **Cologix, Inc. <http://www.cologix.com/>*
>>
>>
>> *511 11th Ave S, Suite 450 | Minneapolis, MN 55415P: 1+612.333.1922 | M:
>> 1+612.812.5242 mike.hemphill(a)cologix.com
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Re: MICE UG 13 - Duluth July 24th Note 2PM start
by Shaun Carlson
All,
In order to get a good head count for planning, can you respond with your
ASN and how many people will be attending the Duluth meeting?
Thanks!
s
*Shaun Carlson*Network Engineering Manager | Arvig
ph: (218) 346-8673 | em: shaun.carlson(a)arvig.com
On Tue, Jul 8, 2014 at 1:01 PM, Mike Hemphill <mike.hemphill(a)cologix.com>
wrote:
> Good Afternoon All!
>
>
>
> MICE UG 13 has been scheduled, as follows:
>
>
>
> Date: Thursday, July 24th
>
> Time: 2:00 pm (1400 Hours) David Farmer has the facility reserved until 5PM
>
> Location: University of Minnesota, Duluth campus, Griggs Center, located
> in the *Kirby Student Center (KSC) * http://www.d.umn.edu/maps/KSC/
>
>
>
> Please send your agenda items when you have a chance!
>
>
>
> Also please invite business & other entities that may have an interest in
> connecting to MICE.
>
> Our goal is to extend the reach of MICE connectivity to outstate
> institutions & companies.
>
>
>
> Thanks!
>
> Reid, Shaun & Mike
>
>
>
> *Mike Hemphill*
> *General Manager | **Cologix, Inc. <http://www.cologix.com/>*
>
>
> *511 11th Ave S, Suite 450 | Minneapolis, MN 55415P: 1+612.333.1922 | M:
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July 18, 2014
IPv6 neighbor solicitation at the exchange
by James Stahr
First off, Did anyone make any changes on 07/15/2014 around 08:00?
The reason is that I think I've resolved an issue with our IPv6 peering
with the MICE route servers, Charter, and TDS and I'm looking for a
larger audience to see if it's my issue or perhaps an issue at the
exchange. I believe it to be the latter, but I'm not an IPv6 expert.
Starting two days ago around 8am CDT, we started experiencing BGP
timeouts on some of our IPv6 BGP sessions. I was able to work around
the issue by removing our COPP policy and the BGP sessions were stable
for 24 hours. Reapplied the policy, sessions started to drop again.
Looked at the policy to see which category is being exceeded, it's not
the routing section which allows BGP/BFD/etc, but the ICMP-v6 one:
ipv6 access-list COPP-icmp-v6
remark ICMP type 1/3,2,3/0,3/1,4/0,4/1,4/2,130,143
permit icmp any any destination-unreachable
permit icmp any any packet-too-big
permit icmp any any time-exceeded
permit icmp any any parameter-problem
remark nd-na, nd-ns, ra, rs
permit icmp any any nd-na
permit icmp any any nd-ns
permit icmp any any router-advertisement
permit icmp any any router-solicitation
remark MLD - query, report_v2
permit icmp any any mld-query
permit icmp any any 143
which is being policed like this:
class Icmp-v6
police 32000 60000 120000 conform-action transmit exceed-action drop
I've worked around the issue by making a 4x increase in the policing,
but the question I have is what happened at the exchange to provoke my
COPP policy? Alternatively, is this normal or indicate who has the problem:
r-pop-min-1#deb ipv6 icmp
ICMP Packet debugging is on
r-pop-min-1#
Jul 17 14:36:08.143 CDT: ICMPv6: Received N-Solicit,
Src=FE80::56E0:3200:50CE:4178, Dst=FF02::1:FF00:1
Jul 17 14:36:08.178 CDT: ICMPv6: Received N-Solicit,
Src=FE80::221:9BFF:FE8A:D29D, Dst=FF02::1:FF00:1
Jul 17 14:36:08.178 CDT: ICMPv6: Received N-Solicit,
Src=FE80::221:9BFF:FE8A:D29D, Dst=FF02::1:FF00:1
Jul 17 14:36:08.178 CDT: ICMPv6: Received N-Solicit,
Src=FE80::221:9BFF:FE8A:D29D, Dst=FF02::1:FF00:1
Jul 17 14:36:08.178 CDT: ICMPv6: Received N-Solicit,
Src=FE80::221:9BFF:FE8A:D29D, Dst=FF02::1:FF00:1
Jul 17 14:36:08.178 CDT: ICMPv6: Received N-Solicit,
Src=FE80::221:9BFF:FE8A:D29D, Dst=FF02::1:FF00:1
Jul 17 14:36:08.178 CDT: ICMPv6: Received N-Solicit,
Src=FE80::221:9BFF:FE8A:D29D, Dst=FF02::1:FF00:1
Jul 17 14:36:08.281 CDT: ICMPv6: Received N-Solicit,
Src=2001:504:27::D1AF:0:2, Dst=FF02::1:FF00:1
Jul 17 14:36:08.281 CDT: ICMPv6: Received N-Solicit,
Src=2001:504:27::D1AF:0:2, Dst=FF02::1:FF00:1
Jul 17 14:36:08.285 CDT: ICMPv6: Received N-Solicit,
Src=2001:504:27::D1AF:0:2, Dst=FF02::1:FF00:1
Jul 17 14:36:08.359 CDT: ICMPv6: Received N-Solicit,
Src=2001:504:27::D1AF:0:2, Dst=FF02::1:FF00:1
Jul 17 14:36:08.433 CDT: ICMPv6: Received N-Solicit,
Src=FE80::221:9BFF:FE8A:D29D, Dst=FF02::1:FF00:1
Jul 17 14:36:08.435 CDT: ICMPv6: Sent N-Solicit,
Src=FE80::CA4C:75FF:FE23:805, Dst=2001:504:27::8252:0:1
Jul 17 14:36:08.459 CDT: ICMPv6: Received N-Advert,
Src=2001:504:27::8252:0:1, Dst=FE80::CA4C:75FF:FE23:805
Jul 17 14:36:08.535 CDT: ICMPv6: Received N-Solicit,
Src=FE80::221:9BFF:FE8A:D29D, Dst=FF02::1:FF00:1
Jul 17 14:36:08.535 CDT: ICMPv6: Received N-Solicit,
Src=FE80::221:9BFF:FE8A:D29D, Dst=FF02::1:FF00:1
Jul 17 14:36:08.539 CDT: ICMPv6: Received N-Solicit,
Src=2001:504:27::D1AF:0:2, Dst=FF02::1:FF00:1
Jul 17 14:36:08.559 CDT: ICMPv6: Received N-Solicit,
Src=2001:504:27::8252:0:1, Dst=FF02::1:FF00:1
Jul 17 14:36:08.586 CDT: ICMPv6: Received N-Solicit,
Src=2001:504:27::B664:0:1, Dst=FF02::1:FF00:1
Jul 17 14:36:08.617 CDT: ICMPv6: Received N-Solicit,
Src=2001:504:27::D1AF:0:2, Dst=FF02::1:FF00:1
Jul 17 14:36:08.687 CDT: ICMPv6: Received N-Solicit,
Src=2001:504:27::D1AF:0:2, Dst=FF02::1:FF00:1
Jul 17 14:36:08.782 CDT: ICMPv6: Received N-Solicit,
Src=2001:504:27::3BA3:0:1, Dst=FF02::1:FF00:1
Jul 17 14:36:08.783 CDT: ICMPv6: Received N-Solicit,
Src=2001:504:27::3BA3:0:1, Dst=FF02::1:FF00:1
Jul 17 14:36:08.783 CDT: ICMPv6: Received N-Solicit,
Src=2001:504:27::3BA3:0:1, Dst=FF02::1:FF00:1
r-pop-min-1#
Jul 17 14:36:08.842 CDT: ICMPv6: Received N-Solicit,
Src=2001:504:27::D1AF:0:2, Dst=FF02::1:FF00:1
Jul 17 14:36:08.990 CDT: ICMPv6: Received N-Solicit,
Src=2001:504:27::D1AF:0:2, Dst=FF02::1:FF00:1
Jul 17 14:36:09.028 CDT: ICMPv6: Received N-Solicit,
Src=2001:504:27::D1AF:0:2, Dst=FF02::1:FF00:1
Jul 17 14:36:09.070 CDT: ICMPv6: Received N-Solicit,
Src=2001:504:27::D1AF:0:2, Dst=FF02::1:FF00:1
Jul 17 14:36:09.148 CDT: ICMPv6: Received N-Solicit,
Src=FE80::221:9BFF:FE8A:D29D, Dst=FF02::1:FF00:1
Jul 17 14:36:09.191 CDT: ICMPv6: Received N-Solicit,
Src=FE80::221:9BFF:FE8A:D29D, Dst=FF02::1:FF00:1
Jul 17 14:36:09.191 CDT: ICMPv6: Received N-Solicit,
Src=FE80::221:9BFF:FE8A:D29D, Dst=FF02::1:FF00:1
Jul 17 14:36:09.191 CDT: ICMPv6: Received N-Solicit,
Src=FE80::221:9BFF:FE8A:D29D, Dst=FF02::1:FF00:1
Jul 17 14:36:09.191 CDT: ICMPv6: Received N-Solicit,
Src=FE80::221:9BFF:FE8A:D29D, Dst=FF02::1:FF00:1
Jul 17 14:36:09.191 CDT: ICMPv6: Received N-Solicit,
Src=FE80::221:9BFF:FE8A:D29D, Dst=FF02::1:FF00:1
Jul 17 14:36:09.191 CDT: ICMPv6: Received N-Solicit,
Src=FE80::221:9BFF:FE8A:D29D, Dst=FF02::1:FF00:1
Jul 17 14:36:09.203 CDT: ICMPv6: Received N-Solicit,
Src=FE80::221:9BFF:FE8A:D29D, Dst=FF02::1:FF00:1
Jul 17 14:36:09.322 CDT: ICMPv6: Received N-Solicit,
Src=2001:504:27::D1AF:0:2, Dst=FF02::1:FF00:1
Jul 17 14:36:09.322 CDT: ICMPv6: Received N-Solicit,
Src=2001:504:27::D1AF:0:2, Dst=FF02::1:FF00:1
Jul 17 14:36:09.327 CDT: ICMPv6: Received N-Solicit,
Src=2001:504:27::D1AF:0:2, Dst=FF02::1:FF00:1
Jul 17 14:36:09.399 CDT: ICMPv6: Received N-Solicit,
Src=2001:504:27::D1AF:0:2, Dst=FF02::1:FF00:1
Jul 17 14:36:09.439 CDT: ICMPv6: Received N-Solicit,
Src=FE80::221:9BFF:FE8A:D29D, Dst=FF02::1:FF00:1
Jul 17 14:36:09.481 CDT: ICMPv6: Received N-Solicit,
Src=2001:504:27::D1AF:0:2, Dst=FF02::1:FF00:1
Jul 17 14:36:09.533 CDT: ICMPv6: Received N-Solicit,
Src=2001:504:27::B664:0:1, Dst=FF02::1:FF00:1
Jul 17 14:36:09.572 CDT: ICMPv6: Received N-Solicit,
Src=FE80::221:9BFF:FE8A:D29D, Dst=FF02::1:FF00:1
Jul 17 14:36:09.572 CDT: ICMPv6: Received N-Solicit,
Src=FE80::221:9BFF:FE8A:D29D, Dst=FF02::1:FF00:1
Jul 17 14:36:09.581 CDT: ICMPv6: Received N-Solicit,
Src=2001:504:27::D1AF:0:2, Dst=FF02::1:FF00:1
Jul 17 14:36:09.608 CDT: ICMPv6: Received N-Solicit,
Src=FE80::2E21:72FF:FE71:37B1, Dst=FF02::1:FF00:1
Jul 17 14:36:09.613 CDT: ICMPv6: Received N-Solicit,
Src=2001:504:27::8252:0:1, Dst=FF02::1:FF00:1
r-pop-min-1#
Jul 17 14:36:09.659 CDT: ICMPv6: Received N-Solicit,
Src=2001:504:27::D1AF:0:2, Dst=FF02::1:FF00:1
Jul 17 14:36:09.831 CDT: ICMPv6: Received N-Solicit,
Src=2001:504:27::3BA3:0:1, Dst=FF02::1:FF00:1
Jul 17 14:36:09.831 CDT: ICMPv6: Received N-Solicit,
Src=2001:504:27::3BA3:0:1, Dst=FF02::1:FF00:1
Jul 17 14:36:09.831 CDT: ICMPv6: Received N-Solicit,
Src=2001:504:27::3BA3:0:1, Dst=FF02::1:FF00:1
Jul 17 14:36:09.884 CDT: ICMPv6: Received N-Solicit,
Src=2001:504:27::D1AF:0:2, Dst=FF02::1:FF00:1
Jul 17 14:36:10.069 CDT: ICMPv6: Received N-Solicit,
Src=2001:504:27::D1AF:0:2, Dst=FF02::1:FF00:1
Jul 17 14:36:10.172 CDT: ICMPv6: Received N-Solicit,
Src=FE80::221:9BFF:FE8A:D29D, Dst=FF02::1:FF00:1
Jul 17 14:36:10.223 CDT: ICMPv6: Received N-Solicit,
Src=FE80::221:9BFF:FE8A:D29D, Dst=FF02::1:FF00:1
Jul 17 14:36:10.223 CDT: ICMPv6: Received N-Solicit,
Src=FE80::221:9BFF:FE8A:D29D, Dst=FF02::1:FF00:1
Jul 17 14:36:10.223 CDT: ICMPv6: Received N-Solicit,
Src=FE80::221:9BFF:FE8A:D29D, Dst=FF02::1:FF00:1
Jul 17 14:36:10.223 CDT: ICMPv6: Received N-Solicit,
Src=FE80::221:9BFF:FE8A:D29D, Dst=FF02::1:FF00:1
Jul 17 14:36:10.223 CDT: ICMPv6: Received N-Solicit,
Src=FE80::221:9BFF:FE8A:D29D, Dst=FF02::1:FF00:1
Jul 17 14:36:10.223 CDT: ICMPv6: Received N-Solicit,
Src=FE80::221:9BFF:FE8A:D29D, Dst=FF02::1:FF00:1
Jul 17 14:36:10.223 CDT: ICMPv6: Received N-Solicit,
Src=FE80::221:9BFF:FE8A:D29D, Dst=FF02::1:FF00:1
Jul 17 14:36:10.240 CDT: ICMPv6: Received N-Solicit,
Src=2001:504:27::D1AF:0:2, Dst=FF02::1:FF00:1
Jul 17 14:36:10.320 CDT: ICMPv6: Received N-Solicit,
Src=2001:504:27::D1AF:0:2, Dst=FF02::1:FF00:1
Jul 17 14:36:10.364 CDT: ICMPv6: Received N-Solicit,
Src=2001:504:27::D1AF:0:2, Dst=FF02::1:FF00:1
Jul 17 14:36:10.441 CDT: ICMPv6: Received N-Solicit,
Src=2001:504:27::D1AF:0:2, Dst=FF02::1:FF00:1
Jul 17 14:36:10.521 CDT: ICMPv6: Received N-Solicit,
Src=2001:504:27::D1AF:0:2, Dst=FF02::1:FF00:1
Jul 17 14:36:10.573 CDT: ICMPv6: Received N-Solicit,
Src=FE80::221:9BFF:FE8A:D29D, Dst=FF02::1:FF00:1
Jul 17 14:36:10.573 CDT: ICMPv6: Received N-Solicit,
Src=FE80::221:9BFF:FE8A:D29D, Dst=FF02::1:FF00:1
Jul 17 14:36:10.588 CDT: ICMPv6: Received N-Solicit,
Src=2001:504:27::B664:0:1, Dst=FF02::1:FF00:1
Jul 17 14:36:10.622 CDT: ICMPv6: Received N-Solicit,
Src=2001:504:27::D1AF:0:2, Dst=FF02::1:FF00:1
Jul 17 14:36:10.659 CDT: ICMPv6: Received N-Solicit,
Src=2001:504:27::8252:0:1, Dst=FF02::1:FF00:1
Jul 17 14:36:10.684 CDT: ICMPv6: Received N-Solicit,
Src=FE80::221:9BFF:FE8A:D29D, Dst=FF02::1:FF00:1
Jul 17 14:36:10.817 CDT: ICMPv6: Received N-Solicit,
Src=2001:504:27::D1AF:0:2, Dst=FF02::1:FF00:1
Jul 17 14:36:10.830 CDT: ICMPv6: Received N-Solicit,
Src=2001:504:27::3BA3:0:1, Dst=FF02::1:FF00:1
Jul 17 14:36:10.830 CDT: ICMPv6: Received N-Solicit,
Src=2001:504:27::3BA3:0:1, Dst=FF02::1:FF00:1
Jul 17 14:36:10.830 CDT: ICMPv6: Received N-Solicit,
Src=2001:504:27::3BA3:0:1, Dst=FF02::1:FF00:1
Jul 17 14:36:10.853 CDT: ICMPv6: Received type 130,
Src=FE80::21B:DFF:FEE7:15C0, Dst=FF02::1
r-pop-min-1#
Jul 17 14:36:10.908 CDT: ICMPv6: Received N-Solicit,
Src=2001:504:27::D1AF:0:2, Dst=FF02::1:FF00:1
Jul 17 14:36:10.925 CDT: ICMPv6: Received N-Solicit,
Src=2001:504:27::D1AF:0:2, Dst=FF02::1:FF00:1
I'm thinking that the answer is that this is not normal, as it looks
like I'm getting duplicate solicitations in the same second.
-James
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Re: Please welcome 702 Communications to MICE
by Doug McIntyre
On Thu, Jul 10, 2014 at 04:56:13PM -0500, Jay Hanke wrote:
> Name: 702 Communications
> Port: CNS switch gi0/4
> ASN: 15627
> IPv4: 206.108.255.54/24
> IPv6: 2001:504:27:0:0:3d0b::1/64
> Peering Contact: dpoehls(a)702communications.com
>
> Route Servers and website please!
Sure thing, I've got them built out in the route-servers, and
everything is all ready there.
> Welcome aboard!
Yes, welcome!
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Please welcome 702 Communications to MICE
by Jay Hanke
Name: 702 Communications
Port: CNS switch gi0/4
ASN: 15627
IPv4: 206.108.255.54/24
IPv6: 2001:504:27:0:0:3d0b::1/64
Peering Contact: dpoehls(a)702communications.com
Route Servers and website please!
Welcome aboard!
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PO Box 54
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July 10, 2014
MICE UG 13 - Duluth July 24th Note 2PM start
by Mike Hemphill
Good Afternoon All!
MICE UG 13 has been scheduled, as follows:
Date: Thursday, July 24th
Time: 2:00 pm (1400 Hours) David Farmer has the facility reserved until 5PM
Location: University of Minnesota, Duluth campus, Griggs Center, located in
the *Kirby Student Center (KSC) * http://www.d.umn.edu/maps/KSC/
Please send your agenda items when you have a chance!
Also please invite business & other entities that may have an interest in
connecting to MICE.
Our goal is to extend the reach of MICE connectivity to outstate
institutions & companies.
Thanks!
Reid, Shaun & Mike
*Mike Hemphill*
*General Manager | **Cologix, Inc. <http://www.cologix.com/>*
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1+612.812.5242mike.hemphill(a)cologix.com <mike.hemphill(a)cologix.com>*
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July 8, 2014
Re: Please Welcome Acentek to MICE
by Eric Crist
Welcome aboard!
On Thursday, July 3, 2014, Jay Hanke <jayhanke(a)mankatonetworks.net> wrote:
> Acentek
> ASN: 40328
> Port: Kato Remote Switch ge-0/0/15
> IPv4: 206.108.255.109/24
> IPv6: 2001:504:27:0:0:9D88::1/64
> Peering contact: peering(a)acentek.net
> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','peering(a)acentek.net');>
>
> Estimated activation 8/1/14
>
> Website and route servers please.
>
> Welcome aboard!
>
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> Mankato Networks LLC
> PO Box 54
> 619 S Front St
> Mankato, MN 56001-3838
> Google 530-618-2398
> jayhanke(a)mankatonetworks.net
> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','jayhanke(a)mankatonetworks.net');>
> http://www.mankatonetworks.com
> http://www.neutralpath.net
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Re: Please Welcome Acentek to MICE
by Doug McIntyre
On Thu, Jul 03, 2014 at 02:34:55PM -0500, Jay Hanke wrote:
> Acentek
> ASN: 40328
> Port: Kato Remote Switch ge-0/0/15
> IPv4: 206.108.255.109/24
> IPv6: 2001:504:27:0:0:9D88::1/64
> Peering contact: peering(a)acentek.net
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> Estimated activation 8/1/14
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> Website and route servers please.
Sure, I've got the route servers setup and ready to go for them.
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Please Welcome Acentek to MICE
by Jay Hanke
Acentek
ASN: 40328
Port: Kato Remote Switch ge-0/0/15
IPv4: 206.108.255.109/24
IPv6: 2001:504:27:0:0:9D88::1/64
Peering contact: peering(a)acentek.net
Estimated activation 8/1/14
Website and route servers please.
Welcome aboard!
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CEO, CCIE #19093
Mankato Networks LLC
PO Box 54
619 S Front St
Mankato, MN 56001-3838
Google 530-618-2398
jayhanke(a)mankatonetworks.net
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July 3, 2014
a poll about operators (that's you) participating in the IETF
by Mike O'Connor
hi all,
thought that some of you might find this interesting. and some of you might want to blast through the poll.
mikey
http://www.circleid.com/posts/20140612_the_ietfs_other_diversity_challenge/
The IETF's *Other* Diversity Challenge
Jun 12, 2014 10:32 AM PDT
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By Chris Grundemann
The Internet Engineering Task Force (IETF) is the standards body for the Internet. It is the organization that publishes and maintains the standards describing the Internet Protocol (IP – versions 4 and 6), and all directly related and supporting protocols, such as TCP, UDP, DNS (and DNSSEC), BGP, DHCP, NDP, the list goes on, and on. In their own words:
The mission of the IETF is to make the Internet work better by producing high quality, relevant technical documents that influence the way people design, use, and manage the Internet.
But how do they do that? How does the IETF produce documents, and ensure that they are high quality, relevant, and influential?
Without going into too much boring detail here, the IETF uses a system of grassroots collaboration that is really quite revolutionary in many ways. The IETF is split into broad focus "Areas" and then again into specific "Working Groups" that each target a single problem or technical topic. While there is leadership at each level, the real power of the IETF is that all the real innovation and decision making happens out on the edges, from the bottom-up rather than the top-down. Combine this grassroots collaboration within each working group with the bottom-up decision making power vested in them and then add in the openness for anyone to join any working group any time, and you start to see the magic of the IETF. All work is contributed by individuals, all decisions are based on rough consensus and running code, and the whole thing "just works."
But does it work as well as it could?
Nothing is perfect, of course, so shouldn't we always strive for improvement? One area that can almost always be improved in any global organization is diversity. The great benefit of an open organization, like the IETF, is that anyone can have his or her voice heard. The great tragedy is that only those who speak up can ever be heard. This makes who is participating very important indeed. We want as many voices from as many backgrounds as possible to ensure the best achievable outcome. Without having all the right people involved, we run the risk of missing something key, for lack of their perspective.
The IETF is already aware of the importance of diversity and steps are being taken to help ensure representation in the IETF from all areas of the world, and more equal representation from both genders. The Internet Society Fellows program helps bring folks from around the globe who wouldn't otherwise be able to participate to IETF meetings and there is a diversity design team with an open mailing list for community (that's you) feedback to help them in "identifying diversity related issues that the IETF faces and making practical recommendations that can help in this regard."
I applaud these efforts! Each of us should contribute to them, and to the overall diversity dialogue, in every way we can.
But I see another diversity issue at play in the IETF as well, and I've come to learn that I'm not alone. This "other diversity challenge" may be a bit more subtle and harder for those not familiar with the Internet industry to see. The physical differences between Operators, Vendors, and Academics are markedly less than those between men and women. The differences in perspective, however, may actually be far greater in both scope and scale. The differences in the way that someone actively running a network views a problem, and the way that same problem is seen by someone writing code for routers are significant. The same goes for either of those two and someone conducting network research. We need all three of these broad views, and all the myriad of views that each contain, informing our innovation and our decision making at the IETF.
Currently, it seems, that is not entirely the case. Many believe that the level of operational input into the IETF is too low. That's not to say there are no operators at the IETF, nor to infer that the operators who do participate already are somehow inadequate. Quite the opposite. Just as the first women, or Latin Americans, or Africans, or Asians to participate in the IETF paved the way for more diversity, those operators who participate today, who have participated in the past — and especially those who have participated all along — have kept the door open for additional operator input. One shining example of this is the IEPG, or Internet Engineering and Planning Group, who meet the Sunday before every IETF meeting to discuss operational issues.
How do we expand on that? How do we ensure that network operators, those folks responsible for keeping the packets flowing across their (service provider, enterprise, data-center, campus, cloud, etc.) networks, are always included in those who are working to influence the way we design, use, and manage the Internet?
To answer that, my team at the Internet Society decided first to research the issue. We want to know if there are, in fact, barriers to operator involvement in the IETF, and if so, what they are. This is where *you* come in. We have an informal survey posted specifically to gather information from network operators about the IETF. We particularly want to hear from folks who are network operators but do not currently participate in the IETF; we want to know why! So if you operate a network, please take our survey, and whether you do or not, please share it as well. We want to hear from people you know, in your part of the world, as well as everywhere else!
The survey will close after the last day of June. On the first of July we'll begin synthesizing everything we've heard. Then we'll present it back to the global network engineering community, to network operators the world round. We'll also present it to the IETF, to share our findings and amplify the voice of the operators. Once we know we've heard everything, and recorded it correctly, we'll start working on solutions to any identified problems.
I believe we'll be able to classify the solutions we find based on who is needed to implement them. There will likely be a set of things that operators themselves, or more likely operator groups, can do to help. There will probably be another set of improvements or changes that the IETF itself can make to improve operator engagement and operational input. Finally, I think we may also find some things that the Internet Society can do to help facilitate these interactions. But before we can even think about solutions, we must first define the problems.
Please help us in this effort, take and share this survey before 31 June 2014 (shortlink: http://bit.ly/opsietfsurvey) Thank you!
By Chris Grundemann, Internet Technologist, Author, and Speaker. All opinions are his and his alone. More blog posts from Chris Grundemann can also be read here.
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June 14, 2014
Re: Please welcome Code42 to MICE
by Doug McIntyre
On Tue, Jun 10, 2014 at 03:16:53PM -0500, Jay Hanke wrote:
> Name: Code42
> ASN: 62715
> Main switch port xe-0/0/19
> IPv4: 206.108.255.32/24
> IPv6: 2001:504:27:0:0:f4fb::1/64
> Contact: peering(a)code42.com
>
> Route servers and website please.
Cool, welcome aboard!
Route servers are setup and ready to talk once they are online.
I've tagged their switch port, ready for optics insertion and cross connect.
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June 10, 2014
Re: Please welcome Code42 to MICE
by Mike Horwath
How awesome!
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June 10, 2014
Re: Please welcome Code42 to MICE
by John Unger
Welcome aboard Code 42... glad to have you in the Exchange!
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Subject: [MICE-DISCUSS] Please welcome Code42 to MICE
Name: Code42
ASN: 62715
Main switch port xe-0/0/19
IPv4: 206.108.255.32/24
IPv6: 2001:504:27:0:0:f4fb::1/64
Contact: peering(a)code42.com
Route servers and website please.
Welcome aboard!
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Please welcome Code42 to MICE
by Jay Hanke
Name: Code42
ASN: 62715
Main switch port xe-0/0/19
IPv4: 206.108.255.32/24
IPv6: 2001:504:27:0:0:f4fb::1/64
Contact: peering(a)code42.com
Route servers and website please.
Welcome aboard!
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CTO, CCIE #19093
Mankato Networks LLC
PO Box 54
619 S Front St
Mankato, MN 56001-3838
Google 530-618-2398
jayhanke(a)mankatonetworks.net
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June 10, 2014
Re: Akamai (20940) < > MICE IXP Brief Maintenance
by Hannigan, Martin
Traffic is coming back now.
Thanks,
-M<
On Jun 9, 2014, at 1:24 PM, "Hannigan, Martin" <marty(a)akamai.com> wrote:
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> Folks,
>
> You may have seen our traffic drop off. We are conducting a brief maintenance. Traffic should return to normal levels shortly.
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> Best,
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Akamai (20940) < > MICE IXP Brief Maintenance
by Hannigan, Martin
Folks,
You may have seen our traffic drop off. We are conducting a brief maintenance. Traffic should return to normal levels shortly.
Best,
-M<
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June 9, 2014
Please welcome Monticello Fibernet to MICE
by Jay Hanke
Monticello Fibernet will be connecting to port ge-0/0/8 of the Mankato
Networks remote switch. I have assigned 206.108.255.108 for their IPv4
connection.
Their ASN is pending with ARIN. Please update the website. I will send
out another announcement with their ASN and IPv6 subnet as soon as the
ASN has been assigned.
Thanks!
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May 21, 2014
Re: Wrapping up my time at ICANN
by Michael Horwath
On May 10, 2014, at 7:39 AM, Mike O'Connor <mike(a)HAVEN2.COM> wrote:
> hi all,
>
> just a quick note to announce my retirement from ICANN. i know i haven’t deluged you with lots of posts and rumpus, but i did my best to represent the views of MICE while i was there. my focus was almost entirely on nudging ICANN to do a better job at the security and stability of the DNS.
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> thanks for letting me do that.
ha, thank you, sir!
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