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Meeting Agenda

by Shaun Carlson

See attached for meeting agenda. See you at 4! s *Shaun Carlson*Senior Manager of Information Technology | Arvig ph: (218) 346-8673 | em: shaun.carlson(a)arvig.com

Oct. 22, 2014

Re: Discussion Topic Response : Community Lists

by Levi Pederson

Don't forget the advertisements! A man in loud polyester suit shouting into a bullhorn Thank you, *Levi Pederson* Mankato Networks LLC cell | 612.481.0769 work | 612.787.7392 levipederson(a)mankatonetworks.net On Wed, Oct 22, 2014 at 2:08 PM, Shaun Carlson <shaun.carlson(a)arvig.com> wrote: > I wonder if the intent, to borrow your you're analogy, is to allow each > person coming to the potluck to make the decision to not eat one particular > dish... > > s > > > > *Shaun Carlson*Senior Manager of Information Technology | Arvig > ph: (218) 346-8673 | em: shaun.carlson(a)arvig.com > > On Wed, Oct 22, 2014 at 1:11 PM, Levi Pederson < > levipederson(a)mankatonetworks.net> wrote: > >> I will not be able to attend the UG meeting today but I would still like >> to respond to the discussion that is to take place during the meeting. >> >> This topic at hand is the decision to implement Community Strings in the >> Exchange. There have been a couple responses on this and the primary >> reasons stated is based on security from my understanding. >> >> I am opposed to this implementation. I believe the very idea of >> segregation in an Internet Exchange undermines the primary purpose of the >> exchange. We are here to make the internet better not honeycombed. >> >> The idea of segregation based on security is a bit odd to me. An >> allegorical situation would be the following : Invite multiple people over >> for a pot-luck dinner (BYO-Dish). Have someones kid break one said dish. >> Then have someone take ALL the food, secure in their house and grant >> access/monitor to specific pot-luck goers based entirely on their specific >> point of view. >> >> This process I feel will create too much segregation and deviate rather >> far from the ideological goal of the exchange. >> >> My thoughts on responses: >> >> 1. How can we continue to provide benefits and capabilities to new >> members or bgp sessions gone awry? >> a. We are currently implementing great layer 2 defenses and that is >> a great start. >> b. Create a list of best practices and configuration examples for >> connecting to the exchange as a community. >> >> Forgive the long post. Just my 2 cents on table tonight. >> >> Thank you, >> > > > ------------------------------ > > To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: > http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1 >

Oct. 22, 2014

Re: Discussion Topic Response : Community Lists

by Shaun Carlson

I wonder if the intent, to borrow your you're analogy, is to allow each person coming to the potluck to make the decision to not eat one particular dish... s *Shaun Carlson*Senior Manager of Information Technology | Arvig ph: (218) 346-8673 | em: shaun.carlson(a)arvig.com On Wed, Oct 22, 2014 at 1:11 PM, Levi Pederson < levipederson(a)mankatonetworks.net> wrote: > I will not be able to attend the UG meeting today but I would still like > to respond to the discussion that is to take place during the meeting. > > This topic at hand is the decision to implement Community Strings in the > Exchange. There have been a couple responses on this and the primary > reasons stated is based on security from my understanding. > > I am opposed to this implementation. I believe the very idea of > segregation in an Internet Exchange undermines the primary purpose of the > exchange. We are here to make the internet better not honeycombed. > > The idea of segregation based on security is a bit odd to me. An > allegorical situation would be the following : Invite multiple people over > for a pot-luck dinner (BYO-Dish). Have someones kid break one said dish. > Then have someone take ALL the food, secure in their house and grant > access/monitor to specific pot-luck goers based entirely on their specific > point of view. > > This process I feel will create too much segregation and deviate rather > far from the ideological goal of the exchange. > > My thoughts on responses: > > 1. How can we continue to provide benefits and capabilities to new > members or bgp sessions gone awry? > a. We are currently implementing great layer 2 defenses and that is > a great start. > b. Create a list of best practices and configuration examples for > connecting to the exchange as a community. > > Forgive the long post. Just my 2 cents on table tonight. > > Thank you, >

Oct. 22, 2014

Re: Discussion - Another BGP Community Viewpoint

by Andrew Hoyos

+1 on that. Fully support here, and I think a necessity for a growing IX. There are logical business and traffic engineering reasons for this sort of thing, and saves folks from having to go bilateral peer with everyone as the member count grows even higher. Here are some examples of how other exchanges have implemented this sort of thing. Equinix: https://ix.equinix.com/ixp/mlpeCommunityInfo <https://ix.equinix.com/ixp/mlpeCommunityInfo> LINX: https://www.linx.net/members/support/route-servers.html <https://www.linx.net/members/support/route-servers.html> -- Andrew Hoyos hoyosa(a)gmail.com > On Oct 22, 2014, at 1:52 PM, Steve Howard <showard(a)paulbunyan.net> wrote: > > I will not be able to attend the MICE UG meeting tonight. > > However, I would like to add my thoughts regarding route advertisement > control using BGP communities. > > I am strongly in favor of this capability being added to the route > servers. Specifically, I'd like to see the ability to block > advertisement to particular ASes or to prepend just to particular > AS(es). Perhaps something like Level3, Sprint, and others use: > > 65000:XXX - do not announce to AS XXX > 65001:XXX - prepend one AS to AS XXX > 65002:XXX - prepend two ASes to AS XXX > 65003:XXX - prepend three ASes to AS XXX > 65004:XXX - prepend four ASex to AS XXX > > I just had to block one customer's netblock at MICE because Netflix > traffic shifted in an undesirable manner yesterday. In this case, they > really just needed to prepend Netflix at MICE, but since that wasn't an > option they requested that we just block their netblock completely from > the MICE route servers. > > BGP Communities give individual MICE members the ability to control > their route advertisements to best suit their needs and routing policies > without having to block the MICE route servers completely.

Oct. 22, 2014

Re: MICE in the News

by Shaun Carlson

On Wednesday, October 22, 2014, Jeremy Lumby <jlumby(a)mnvoip.com> wrote: > I am at a loss for words after reading it J Actually so many things I > could say, that I do not even know where to begin. > > > > *From:* MICE Discuss [mailto:MICE-DISCUSS@LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET > <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','MICE-DISCUSS(a)LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET');>] *On > Behalf Of *Anthony Anderberg > *Sent:* Wednesday, October 22, 2014 12:51 PM > *To:* MICE-DISCUSS(a)LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET > <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','MICE-DISCUSS(a)LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET');> > *Subject:* [MICE-DISCUSS] MICE in the News > > > > I stumbled on this article that mentioned MICE, apparently we could be > part of some massive government conspiracy… also MICE takes up the whole > building now so I assume Mike and Al will be looking for office space > elsewhere. :-) > > > > > http://www.citylab.com/tech/2013/10/how-government-might-tap-physical-infra… > > > > > > > > *Anthony Anderberg* > > Sr. Systems Analyst > > [image: NUtel_email_logo_1] > > 320-234-5239 > > anthonyanderberg(a)nu-telecom.net > <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','anthonyanderberg(a)nu-telecom.net');> > > *www.nutelecom.net <http://www.nutelecom.net>* > > > ------------------------------ > > To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: > http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1 > > ------------------------------ > > To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: > http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1 > -- *Shaun Carlson*Senior Manager of Information Technology | Arvig ph: (218) 346-8673 | em: shaun.carlson(a)arvig.com

Oct. 22, 2014

Discussion - Another BGP Community Viewpoint

by Steve Howard

I will not be able to attend the MICE UG meeting tonight. However, I would like to add my thoughts regarding route advertisement control using BGP communities. I am strongly in favor of this capability being added to the route servers. Specifically, I'd like to see the ability to block advertisement to particular ASes or to prepend just to particular AS(es). Perhaps something like Level3, Sprint, and others use: 65000:XXX - do not announce to AS XXX 65001:XXX - prepend one AS to AS XXX 65002:XXX - prepend two ASes to AS XXX 65003:XXX - prepend three ASes to AS XXX 65004:XXX - prepend four ASex to AS XXX I just had to block one customer's netblock at MICE because Netflix traffic shifted in an undesirable manner yesterday. In this case, they really just needed to prepend Netflix at MICE, but since that wasn't an option they requested that we just block their netblock completely from the MICE route servers. BGP Communities give individual MICE members the ability to control their route advertisements to best suit their needs and routing policies without having to block the MICE route servers completely.

Oct. 22, 2014

Discussion Topic Response : Community Lists

by Levi Pederson

I will not be able to attend the UG meeting today but I would still like to respond to the discussion that is to take place during the meeting. This topic at hand is the decision to implement Community Strings in the Exchange. There have been a couple responses on this and the primary reasons stated is based on security from my understanding. I am opposed to this implementation. I believe the very idea of segregation in an Internet Exchange undermines the primary purpose of the exchange. We are here to make the internet better not honeycombed. The idea of segregation based on security is a bit odd to me. An allegorical situation would be the following : Invite multiple people over for a pot-luck dinner (BYO-Dish). Have someones kid break one said dish. Then have someone take ALL the food, secure in their house and grant access/monitor to specific pot-luck goers based entirely on their specific point of view. This process I feel will create too much segregation and deviate rather far from the ideological goal of the exchange. My thoughts on responses: 1. How can we continue to provide benefits and capabilities to new members or bgp sessions gone awry? a. We are currently implementing great layer 2 defenses and that is a great start. b. Create a list of best practices and configuration examples for connecting to the exchange as a community. Forgive the long post. Just my 2 cents on table tonight. Thank you,

Oct. 22, 2014

Re: MICE in the News

by Jeremy Lumby

I am at a loss for words after reading it J Actually so many things I could say, that I do not even know where to begin. From: MICE Discuss [mailto:MICE-DISCUSS@LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET] On Behalf Of Anthony Anderberg Sent: Wednesday, October 22, 2014 12:51 PM To: MICE-DISCUSS(a)LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET Subject: [MICE-DISCUSS] MICE in the News I stumbled on this article that mentioned MICE, apparently we could be part of some massive government conspiracy… also MICE takes up the whole building now so I assume Mike and Al will be looking for office space elsewhere. :-) http://www.citylab.com/tech/2013/10/how-government-might-tap-physical-infra… Anthony Anderberg Sr. Systems Analyst 320-234-5239 anthonyanderberg(a)nu-telecom.net www.nutelecom.net To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1

Oct. 22, 2014

MICE in the News

by Anthony Anderberg

I stumbled on this article that mentioned MICE, apparently we could be part of some massive government conspiracy... also MICE takes up the whole building now so I assume Mike and Al will be looking for office space elsewhere. :-) http://www.citylab.com/tech/2013/10/how-government-might-tap-physical-infra… Anthony Anderberg Sr. Systems Analyst [NUtel_email_logo_1] 320-234-5239 anthonyanderberg(a)nu-telecom.net<mailto:anthonyanderberg@nu-telecom.net> www.nutelecom.net<http://www.nutelecom.net>

Oct. 22, 2014

Re: Netflix Ramping Up

by David Farmer

I'll probably get it moved off tomorrow -- =============================================== David Farmer Email:farmer@umn.edu Networking & Telecommunication Services Office of Information Technology University of Minnesota 2218 University Ave SE Phone: 612-626-0815 Minneapolis, MN 55414-3029 Cell: 612-812-9952 =============================================== > On Oct 21, 2014, at 20:32, Nathan Beard <nbeard(a)STELLARLLC.NET> wrote: > > Any update as to when Gigapop will be moved off the remote CNS switch to the main MICE switch as was discussed earlier today? > > The interconnect between switches has peaked above 9Gbps and we still haven't quite hit peak traffic levels at this time. We'll likely start to see issues if the link becomes any more loaded. > > <Email_Signature_Stellar_REAL.png> > >> On 10/21/2014 07:13 PM, Brady Kittel wrote: >> Looks like aggregate bandwidth has over doubled (at ~65Gbps currently and is still climbing. >> >>> On Tue, Oct 21, 2014 at 4:19 PM, Derek Poehls <dpoehls(a)702communications.com> wrote: >>> I shutdown my connections to the Route Servers, as I was going to crash into my 1G port speed shortly thereafter… Just a heads up if you notice a sudden drop on the graphs. >>> >>> -=-=-=-=-=-=- >>> Derek Poehls >>> 702 Communications >>> NOC Supervisor/Senior Network Engineer >>> (218) 284-5775 >>> >>> >>> >>> To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: >>> http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1 >>> >> >> >> To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: >> http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1 >> > > > To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: > http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1

Oct. 22, 2014

Re: Netflix Ramping Up

by Nathan Beard

Any update as to when Gigapop will be moved off the remote CNS switch to the main MICE switch as was discussed earlier today? The interconnect between switches has peaked above 9Gbps and we still haven't quite hit peak traffic levels at this time. We'll likely start to see issues if the link becomes any more loaded. On 10/21/2014 07:13 PM, Brady Kittel wrote: > Looks like aggregate bandwidth has over doubled (at ~65Gbps currently > and is still climbing. > > On Tue, Oct 21, 2014 at 4:19 PM, Derek Poehls > <dpoehls(a)702communications.com <mailto:dpoehls@702communications.com>> > wrote: > > I shutdown my connections to the Route Servers, as I was going to > crash into my 1G port speed shortly thereafter… Just a heads up > if you notice a sudden drop on the graphs. > > -=-=-=-=-=-=- > Derek Poehls > 702 Communications > NOC Supervisor/Senior Network Engineer > (218) 284-5775 <tel:%28218%29%20284-5775> > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: > http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1 > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: > http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1 >

Oct. 22, 2014

Re: Netflix Ramping Up

by Brady Kittel

Looks like aggregate bandwidth has over doubled (at ~65Gbps currently and is still climbing. On Tue, Oct 21, 2014 at 4:19 PM, Derek Poehls <dpoehls(a)702communications.com > wrote: > I shutdown my connections to the Route Servers, as I was going to crash > into my 1G port speed shortly thereafter… Just a heads up if you notice a > sudden drop on the graphs. > > -=-=-=-=-=-=- > Derek Poehls > 702 Communications > NOC Supervisor/Senior Network Engineer > (218) 284-5775 > > > > ------------------------------ > > To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: > http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1 >

Oct. 22, 2014

Re: Netflix Ramping Up

by Derek Poehls

I shutdown my connections to the Route Servers, as I was going to crash into my 1G port speed shortly thereafter… Just a heads up if you notice a sudden drop on the graphs. -=-=-=-=-=-=- Derek Poehls 702 Communications NOC Supervisor/Senior Network Engineer (218) 284-5775

Oct. 21, 2014

Re: Netflix Ramping Up

by Justin Krejci

I got word that Gigapop is working to get their connection moved over to the main switch now. Hopefully that goes smoothly for all involved. ________________________________________ From: MICE Discuss [MICE-DISCUSS(a)LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET] on behalf of Steve Howard [showard(a)PAULBUNYAN.NET] Sent: Tuesday, October 21, 2014 3:03 PM To: MICE-DISCUSS(a)LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET Subject: Re: [MICE-DISCUSS] Netflix Ramping Up On 10/21/2014 02:51 PM, Jeremy Lumby wrote: > I see Netflix is ramping up, and the link to the CNS switch is getting close to saturating. The University may need to move to the main switch soon to alleviate the link. Wow! What a different Netflix makes! I wonder how full it will be in the evening tonight? It wouldn't surprise me if the link is completely saturated. I agree the University/Gigapop should move and/or we should add another 10Gig link between the CNS and main switches. It wouldn't surprise me if the University needs to add a second 10Gig connection!

Oct. 21, 2014

Re: Netflix Ramping Up

by Beatrice, Tim L

That is funny! Anywho, I will ask them to add MICE to peeringdb. Tim Beatrice Charter Communications -----Original Message----- From: MICE Discuss [mailto:MICE-DISCUSS@LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET] On Behalf Of Justin Krejci Sent: Tuesday, October 21, 2014 3:43 PM To: MICE-DISCUSS(a)LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET Subject: Re: [MICE-DISCUSS] Netflix Ramping Up Also there are those several members who do not use MLPA route servers: Charter, Enventis, etc. that did not appear to have a corresponding bump in their own utilization this afternoon that presumably have a lot of eyeballs on their networks that would benefit from peering with Netflix. I don't know if any/many of them closely monitor these mailing lists and so may not even realize Netflix is connected and live on MICE now but it may be worth reaching out to those folks. ________________________________________ From: MICE Discuss [MICE-DISCUSS(a)LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET] on behalf of Justin Krejci [JKrejci(a)USINTERNET.COM] Sent: Tuesday, October 21, 2014 3:30 PM To: MICE-DISCUSS(a)LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET Subject: Re: [MICE-DISCUSS] Netflix Ramping Up Does anyone have a good Netflix contact to nudge them into adding MICE into their peeringdb.com list? If not I expect an email to their peering@ address would eventually reach the right eyes. ________________________________________ From: MICE Discuss [MICE-DISCUSS(a)LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET] on behalf of Steve Howard [showard(a)PAULBUNYAN.NET] Sent: Tuesday, October 21, 2014 3:03 PM To: MICE-DISCUSS(a)LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET Subject: Re: [MICE-DISCUSS] Netflix Ramping Up On 10/21/2014 02:51 PM, Jeremy Lumby wrote: > I see Netflix is ramping up, and the link to the CNS switch is getting close to saturating. The University may need to move to the main switch soon to alleviate the link. Wow! What a different Netflix makes! I wonder how full it will be in the evening tonight? It wouldn't surprise me if the link is completely saturated. I agree the University/Gigapop should move and/or we should add another 10Gig link between the CNS and main switches. It wouldn't surprise me if the University needs to add a second 10Gig connection!

Oct. 21, 2014

Re: Netflix Ramping Up

by Justin Krejci

Also there are those several members who do not use MLPA route servers: Charter, Enventis, etc. that did not appear to have a corresponding bump in their own utilization this afternoon that presumably have a lot of eyeballs on their networks that would benefit from peering with Netflix. I don't know if any/many of them closely monitor these mailing lists and so may not even realize Netflix is connected and live on MICE now but it may be worth reaching out to those folks. ________________________________________ From: MICE Discuss [MICE-DISCUSS(a)LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET] on behalf of Justin Krejci [JKrejci(a)USINTERNET.COM] Sent: Tuesday, October 21, 2014 3:30 PM To: MICE-DISCUSS(a)LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET Subject: Re: [MICE-DISCUSS] Netflix Ramping Up Does anyone have a good Netflix contact to nudge them into adding MICE into their peeringdb.com list? If not I expect an email to their peering@ address would eventually reach the right eyes. ________________________________________ From: MICE Discuss [MICE-DISCUSS(a)LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET] on behalf of Steve Howard [showard(a)PAULBUNYAN.NET] Sent: Tuesday, October 21, 2014 3:03 PM To: MICE-DISCUSS(a)LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET Subject: Re: [MICE-DISCUSS] Netflix Ramping Up On 10/21/2014 02:51 PM, Jeremy Lumby wrote: > I see Netflix is ramping up, and the link to the CNS switch is getting close to saturating. The University may need to move to the main switch soon to alleviate the link. Wow! What a different Netflix makes! I wonder how full it will be in the evening tonight? It wouldn't surprise me if the link is completely saturated. I agree the University/Gigapop should move and/or we should add another 10Gig link between the CNS and main switches. It wouldn't surprise me if the University needs to add a second 10Gig connection!

Oct. 21, 2014

Re: Agenda - MICE UG 14 - 22 Oct 2014

by Shaun Carlson

Either is fine *Shaun Carlson*Senior Manager of Information Technology | Arvig ph: (218) 346-8673 | em: shaun.carlson(a)arvig.com On Tue, Oct 21, 2014 at 3:29 PM, dangieser <dangieser(a)mankatonetworks.net> wrote: > Shaun- > > Do you want a standard monitor cable or HDMI for the projector? > > Dan Gieser > Mankato Networks > > Cell: 507-327-5341 > Desk: 507-242-6469 > dangieser(a)mankatonetworks.net > > > > > ------ Original Message ------ > From: "Shaun Carlson" <shaun.carlson(a)arvig.com> > To: MICE-DISCUSS(a)lists.iphouse.net > Sent: 10/21/2014 3:12:16 PM > Subject: Re: [MICE-DISCUSS] Agenda - MICE UG 14 - 22 Oct 2014 > > > One last reach out... looking for a meeting sponsor and a projector to use > for the video call. Anyone? > > Thanks in advance! > > s > > > > *Shaun Carlson*Senior Manager of Information Technology | Arvig > ph: (218) 346-8673 | em: shaun.carlson(a)arvig.com > > On Mon, Oct 20, 2014 at 4:20 PM, Shaun Carlson <shaun.carlson(a)arvig.com> > wrote: > >> Thanks for the reminder, I even forgot my own response. ;) >> >> Added. >> >> s >> >> >> >> *Shaun Carlson*Senior Manager of Information Technology | Arvig >> ph: (218) 346-8673 | em: shaun.carlson(a)arvig.com >> >> On Mon, Oct 20, 2014 at 4:19 PM, Jeremy Lumby <jlumby(a)mnvoip.com> wrote: >> >>> Lets add the discussion of Community Strings to the agenda >>> >>> >>> >>> *From:* MICE Discuss [mailto:MICE-DISCUSS@LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET] *On Behalf >>> Of *Shaun Carlson >>> *Sent:* Monday, October 20, 2014 4:11 PM >>> *To:* MICE-DISCUSS(a)LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET >>> *Subject:* [MICE-DISCUSS] Agenda - MICE UG 14 - 22 Oct 2014 >>> >>> >>> >>> All, >>> >>> >>> >>> Please see the attached agenda, if you have any additions, please let me >>> know. >>> >>> >>> >>> Please see the attached minutes from our previous meeting. If you have >>> any additions or corrections, please let me know. >>> >>> >>> >>> One agenda note, we'll be discussing the potential change of MICE to a >>> 501.(c)6 non-profit organization. I've attached some discussion points and >>> would encourage you to *send your questions and comments to the list.* >>> Jeff Clancy from Stinson Leonard Street LLP will be present at the meeting >>> to answer questions and facilitate our next steps should we choose to move >>> forward with the conversion. >>> >>> >>> >>> Last, we are still in need of a sponsor for refreshments at Wednesday's >>> meeting, any volunteers? >>> >>> >>> >>> *Remote Dial-in Info:* >>> >>> www.webex.com >>> >>> Meeting Number: 193 507 116 >>> >>> Meeting Password: MICEUG14 >>> >>> * Please try to have a web-cam hooked up to facilitate the best possible >>> interaction. >>> >>> ** I will start this web conference 15 minutes prior to the meeting to >>> allow you to dial-in and work past any technical difficulties. >>> >>> >>> >>> One request, does anyone have a projector they could bring to the >>> meeting for this web conference? I would need it approx. 30 minutes prior >>> to the meeting. >>> >>> >>> >>> Thanks! >>> >>> >>> >>> s >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> *Shaun Carlson*Senior Manager of Information Technology | Arvig >>> >>> ph: (218) 346-8673 | em: shaun.carlson(a)arvig.com >>> >>> >>> ------------------------------ >>> >>> To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: >>> http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1 >>> >>> ------------------------------ >>> >>> To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: >>> http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1 >>> >> >> > > ------------------------------ > > To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: > http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1 > > > ------------------------------ > > To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: > http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1 >

Oct. 21, 2014

Re: Agenda - MICE UG 14 - 22 Oct 2014

by Shaun Carlson

Thanks Dan! I'll have everything else ready to go! s *Shaun Carlson*Senior Manager of Information Technology | Arvig ph: (218) 346-8673 | em: shaun.carlson(a)arvig.com On Tue, Oct 21, 2014 at 3:22 PM, dangieser <dangieser(a)mankatonetworks.net> wrote: > We've got a projector you can use > > Dan Gieser > Mankato Networks > > Cell: 507-327-5341 > Desk: 507-242-6469 > dangieser(a)mankatonetworks.net > > > > > ------ Original Message ------ > From: "Shaun Carlson" <shaun.carlson(a)arvig.com> > To: MICE-DISCUSS(a)lists.iphouse.net > Sent: 10/21/2014 3:12:16 PM > Subject: Re: [MICE-DISCUSS] Agenda - MICE UG 14 - 22 Oct 2014 > > > One last reach out... looking for a meeting sponsor and a projector to use > for the video call. Anyone? > > Thanks in advance! > > s > > > > *Shaun Carlson*Senior Manager of Information Technology | Arvig > ph: (218) 346-8673 | em: shaun.carlson(a)arvig.com > > On Mon, Oct 20, 2014 at 4:20 PM, Shaun Carlson <shaun.carlson(a)arvig.com> > wrote: > >> Thanks for the reminder, I even forgot my own response. ;) >> >> Added. >> >> s >> >> >> >> *Shaun Carlson*Senior Manager of Information Technology | Arvig >> ph: (218) 346-8673 | em: shaun.carlson(a)arvig.com >> >> On Mon, Oct 20, 2014 at 4:19 PM, Jeremy Lumby <jlumby(a)mnvoip.com> wrote: >> >>> Lets add the discussion of Community Strings to the agenda >>> >>> >>> >>> *From:* MICE Discuss [mailto:MICE-DISCUSS@LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET] *On Behalf >>> Of *Shaun Carlson >>> *Sent:* Monday, October 20, 2014 4:11 PM >>> *To:* MICE-DISCUSS(a)LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET >>> *Subject:* [MICE-DISCUSS] Agenda - MICE UG 14 - 22 Oct 2014 >>> >>> >>> >>> All, >>> >>> >>> >>> Please see the attached agenda, if you have any additions, please let me >>> know. >>> >>> >>> >>> Please see the attached minutes from our previous meeting. If you have >>> any additions or corrections, please let me know. >>> >>> >>> >>> One agenda note, we'll be discussing the potential change of MICE to a >>> 501.(c)6 non-profit organization. I've attached some discussion points and >>> would encourage you to *send your questions and comments to the list.* >>> Jeff Clancy from Stinson Leonard Street LLP will be present at the meeting >>> to answer questions and facilitate our next steps should we choose to move >>> forward with the conversion. >>> >>> >>> >>> Last, we are still in need of a sponsor for refreshments at Wednesday's >>> meeting, any volunteers? >>> >>> >>> >>> *Remote Dial-in Info:* >>> >>> www.webex.com >>> >>> Meeting Number: 193 507 116 >>> >>> Meeting Password: MICEUG14 >>> >>> * Please try to have a web-cam hooked up to facilitate the best possible >>> interaction. >>> >>> ** I will start this web conference 15 minutes prior to the meeting to >>> allow you to dial-in and work past any technical difficulties. >>> >>> >>> >>> One request, does anyone have a projector they could bring to the >>> meeting for this web conference? I would need it approx. 30 minutes prior >>> to the meeting. >>> >>> >>> >>> Thanks! >>> >>> >>> >>> s >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> *Shaun Carlson*Senior Manager of Information Technology | Arvig >>> >>> ph: (218) 346-8673 | em: shaun.carlson(a)arvig.com >>> >>> >>> ------------------------------ >>> >>> To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: >>> http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1 >>> >>> ------------------------------ >>> >>> To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: >>> http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1 >>> >> >> > > ------------------------------ > > To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: > http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1 > > > ------------------------------ > > To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: > http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1 >

Oct. 21, 2014

Re: Netflix Ramping Up

by Justin Krejci

Does anyone have a good Netflix contact to nudge them into adding MICE into their peeringdb.com list? If not I expect an email to their peering@ address would eventually reach the right eyes. ________________________________________ From: MICE Discuss [MICE-DISCUSS(a)LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET] on behalf of Steve Howard [showard(a)PAULBUNYAN.NET] Sent: Tuesday, October 21, 2014 3:03 PM To: MICE-DISCUSS(a)LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET Subject: Re: [MICE-DISCUSS] Netflix Ramping Up On 10/21/2014 02:51 PM, Jeremy Lumby wrote: > I see Netflix is ramping up, and the link to the CNS switch is getting close to saturating. The University may need to move to the main switch soon to alleviate the link. Wow! What a different Netflix makes! I wonder how full it will be in the evening tonight? It wouldn't surprise me if the link is completely saturated. I agree the University/Gigapop should move and/or we should add another 10Gig link between the CNS and main switches. It wouldn't surprise me if the University needs to add a second 10Gig connection!

Oct. 21, 2014

Re: Agenda - MICE UG 14 - 22 Oct 2014

by dangieser

Shaun- Do you want a standard monitor cable or HDMI for the projector? Dan Gieser Mankato Networks Cell: 507-327-5341 Desk: 507-242-6469 dangieser(a)mankatonetworks.net ------ Original Message ------ From: "Shaun Carlson" <shaun.carlson(a)arvig.com> To: MICE-DISCUSS(a)lists.iphouse.net Sent: 10/21/2014 3:12:16 PM Subject: Re: [MICE-DISCUSS] Agenda - MICE UG 14 - 22 Oct 2014 >One last reach out... looking for a meeting sponsor and a projector to >use for the video call. Anyone? > >Thanks in advance! > >s > > >Shaun Carlson >Senior Manager of Information Technology | Arvig >ph: (218) 346-8673 | em: shaun.carlson(a)arvig.com > >On Mon, Oct 20, 2014 at 4:20 PM, Shaun Carlson ><shaun.carlson(a)arvig.com> wrote: >>Thanks for the reminder, I even forgot my own response. ;) >> >>Added. >> >>s >> >> >>Shaun Carlson >>Senior Manager of Information Technology | Arvig >>ph: (218) 346-8673 | em: shaun.carlson(a)arvig.com >> >>On Mon, Oct 20, 2014 at 4:19 PM, Jeremy Lumby <jlumby(a)mnvoip.com> >>wrote: >>>Lets add the discussion of Community Strings to the agenda >>> >>> >>> >>>From: MICE Discuss [mailto:MICE-DISCUSS@LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET] On Behalf >>>Of Shaun Carlson >>>Sent: Monday, October 20, 2014 4:11 PM >>>To:MICE-DISCUSS@LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET >>>Subject: [MICE-DISCUSS] Agenda - MICE UG 14 - 22 Oct 2014 >>> >>> >>> >>>All, >>> >>> >>> >>>Please see the attached agenda, if you have any additions, please let >>>me know. >>> >>> >>> >>>Please see the attached minutes from our previous meeting. If you >>>have any additions or corrections, please let me know. >>> >>> >>> >>>One agenda note, we'll be discussing the potential change of MICE to >>>a 501.(c)6 non-profit organization. I've attached some discussion >>>points and would encourage you to send your questions and comments to >>>the list. Jeff Clancy from Stinson Leonard Street LLP will be >>>present at the meeting to answer questions and facilitate our next >>>steps should we choose to move forward with the conversion. >>> >>> >>> >>>Last, we are still in need of a sponsor for refreshments at >>>Wednesday's meeting, any volunteers? >>> >>> >>> >>>Remote Dial-in Info: >>> >>>www.webex.com >>> >>>Meeting Number: 193 507 116 >>> >>>Meeting Password: MICEUG14 >>> >>>* Please try to have a web-cam hooked up to facilitate the best >>>possible interaction. >>> >>>** I will start this web conference 15 minutes prior to the meeting >>>to allow you to dial-in and work past any technical difficulties. >>> >>> >>> >>>One request, does anyone have a projector they could bring to the >>>meeting for this web conference? I would need it approx. 30 minutes >>>prior to the meeting. >>> >>> >>> >>>Thanks! >>> >>> >>> >>>s >>> >>> >>> >>>Shaun Carlson >>>Senior Manager of Information Technology | Arvig >>> >>>ph: (218) 346-8673 | em: shaun.carlson(a)arvig.com >>> >>> >>> >>>-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- >>>To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: >>>http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1 >>> >>> >>>-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- >>>To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: >>>http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1 >>> >> > > >-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- >To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: >http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1 >

Oct. 21, 2014

Re: Agenda - MICE UG 14 - 22 Oct 2014

by dangieser

We've got a projector you can use Dan Gieser Mankato Networks Cell: 507-327-5341 Desk: 507-242-6469 dangieser(a)mankatonetworks.net ------ Original Message ------ From: "Shaun Carlson" <shaun.carlson(a)arvig.com> To: MICE-DISCUSS(a)lists.iphouse.net Sent: 10/21/2014 3:12:16 PM Subject: Re: [MICE-DISCUSS] Agenda - MICE UG 14 - 22 Oct 2014 >One last reach out... looking for a meeting sponsor and a projector to >use for the video call. Anyone? > >Thanks in advance! > >s > > >Shaun Carlson >Senior Manager of Information Technology | Arvig >ph: (218) 346-8673 | em: shaun.carlson(a)arvig.com > >On Mon, Oct 20, 2014 at 4:20 PM, Shaun Carlson ><shaun.carlson(a)arvig.com> wrote: >>Thanks for the reminder, I even forgot my own response. ;) >> >>Added. >> >>s >> >> >>Shaun Carlson >>Senior Manager of Information Technology | Arvig >>ph: (218) 346-8673 | em: shaun.carlson(a)arvig.com >> >>On Mon, Oct 20, 2014 at 4:19 PM, Jeremy Lumby <jlumby(a)mnvoip.com> >>wrote: >>>Lets add the discussion of Community Strings to the agenda >>> >>> >>> >>>From: MICE Discuss [mailto:MICE-DISCUSS@LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET] On Behalf >>>Of Shaun Carlson >>>Sent: Monday, October 20, 2014 4:11 PM >>>To:MICE-DISCUSS@LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET >>>Subject: [MICE-DISCUSS] Agenda - MICE UG 14 - 22 Oct 2014 >>> >>> >>> >>>All, >>> >>> >>> >>>Please see the attached agenda, if you have any additions, please let >>>me know. >>> >>> >>> >>>Please see the attached minutes from our previous meeting. If you >>>have any additions or corrections, please let me know. >>> >>> >>> >>>One agenda note, we'll be discussing the potential change of MICE to >>>a 501.(c)6 non-profit organization. I've attached some discussion >>>points and would encourage you to send your questions and comments to >>>the list. Jeff Clancy from Stinson Leonard Street LLP will be >>>present at the meeting to answer questions and facilitate our next >>>steps should we choose to move forward with the conversion. >>> >>> >>> >>>Last, we are still in need of a sponsor for refreshments at >>>Wednesday's meeting, any volunteers? >>> >>> >>> >>>Remote Dial-in Info: >>> >>>www.webex.com >>> >>>Meeting Number: 193 507 116 >>> >>>Meeting Password: MICEUG14 >>> >>>* Please try to have a web-cam hooked up to facilitate the best >>>possible interaction. >>> >>>** I will start this web conference 15 minutes prior to the meeting >>>to allow you to dial-in and work past any technical difficulties. >>> >>> >>> >>>One request, does anyone have a projector they could bring to the >>>meeting for this web conference? I would need it approx. 30 minutes >>>prior to the meeting. >>> >>> >>> >>>Thanks! >>> >>> >>> >>>s >>> >>> >>> >>>Shaun Carlson >>>Senior Manager of Information Technology | Arvig >>> >>>ph: (218) 346-8673 | em: shaun.carlson(a)arvig.com >>> >>> >>> >>>-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- >>>To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: >>>http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1 >>> >>> >>>-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- >>>To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: >>>http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1 >>> >> > > >-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- >To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: >http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1 >

Oct. 21, 2014

Re: Netflix Ramping Up

by Eric Crist

> On Oct 21, 2014, at 15:03:47, Steve Howard <showard(a)PAULBUNYAN.NET> wrote: > > On 10/21/2014 02:51 PM, Jeremy Lumby wrote: >> I see Netflix is ramping up, and the link to the CNS switch is getting close to saturating. The University may need to move to the main switch soon to alleviate the link. > > Wow! What a different Netflix makes! I wonder how full it will be in > the evening tonight? It wouldn't surprise me if the link is completely > saturated. > > I agree the University/Gigapop should move and/or we should add another > 10Gig link between the CNS and main switches. It wouldn't surprise me > if the University needs to add a second 10Gig connection! Understand it proprietary, but I'd be interested to know how this affects some of our members' transit connections. What percentage/etc. Just a friendly, this is good or, maybe, it is "meh." --- Eric F Crist System Administrator ClaimLynx, Inc (952) 593-5969 x2301 -- This e-mail and any files transmitted with it are confidential and are intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. If you are not the intended recipient or the individual responsible for delivering the e-mail to the intended recipient, please be advised that you have received this e-mail in error and that any use, dissemination, forwarding, printing, or copying of this e-mail is strictly prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please return it to the sender immediately and delete the original message and any copy of it from your computer system. If you have any questions concerning this message, please contact the sender or call ClaimLynx at (952) 593-5969.

Oct. 21, 2014

Re: Agenda - MICE UG 14 - 22 Oct 2014

by Shaun Carlson

One last reach out... looking for a meeting sponsor and a projector to use for the video call. Anyone? Thanks in advance! s *Shaun Carlson*Senior Manager of Information Technology | Arvig ph: (218) 346-8673 | em: shaun.carlson(a)arvig.com On Mon, Oct 20, 2014 at 4:20 PM, Shaun Carlson <shaun.carlson(a)arvig.com> wrote: > Thanks for the reminder, I even forgot my own response. ;) > > Added. > > s > > > > *Shaun Carlson*Senior Manager of Information Technology | Arvig > ph: (218) 346-8673 | em: shaun.carlson(a)arvig.com > > On Mon, Oct 20, 2014 at 4:19 PM, Jeremy Lumby <jlumby(a)mnvoip.com> wrote: > >> Lets add the discussion of Community Strings to the agenda >> >> >> >> *From:* MICE Discuss [mailto:MICE-DISCUSS@LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET] *On Behalf >> Of *Shaun Carlson >> *Sent:* Monday, October 20, 2014 4:11 PM >> *To:* MICE-DISCUSS(a)LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET >> *Subject:* [MICE-DISCUSS] Agenda - MICE UG 14 - 22 Oct 2014 >> >> >> >> All, >> >> >> >> Please see the attached agenda, if you have any additions, please let me >> know. >> >> >> >> Please see the attached minutes from our previous meeting. If you have >> any additions or corrections, please let me know. >> >> >> >> One agenda note, we'll be discussing the potential change of MICE to a >> 501.(c)6 non-profit organization. I've attached some discussion points and >> would encourage you to *send your questions and comments to the list.* >> Jeff Clancy from Stinson Leonard Street LLP will be present at the meeting >> to answer questions and facilitate our next steps should we choose to move >> forward with the conversion. >> >> >> >> Last, we are still in need of a sponsor for refreshments at Wednesday's >> meeting, any volunteers? >> >> >> >> *Remote Dial-in Info:* >> >> www.webex.com >> >> Meeting Number: 193 507 116 >> >> Meeting Password: MICEUG14 >> >> * Please try to have a web-cam hooked up to facilitate the best possible >> interaction. >> >> ** I will start this web conference 15 minutes prior to the meeting to >> allow you to dial-in and work past any technical difficulties. >> >> >> >> One request, does anyone have a projector they could bring to the meeting >> for this web conference? I would need it approx. 30 minutes prior to the >> meeting. >> >> >> >> Thanks! >> >> >> >> s >> >> >> >> >> *Shaun Carlson*Senior Manager of Information Technology | Arvig >> >> ph: (218) 346-8673 | em: shaun.carlson(a)arvig.com >> >> >> ------------------------------ >> >> To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: >> http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1 >> >> ------------------------------ >> >> To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: >> http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1 >> > >

Oct. 21, 2014

Re: Netflix Ramping Up

by Steve Howard

On 10/21/2014 02:51 PM, Jeremy Lumby wrote: > I see Netflix is ramping up, and the link to the CNS switch is getting close to saturating. The University may need to move to the main switch soon to alleviate the link. Wow! What a different Netflix makes! I wonder how full it will be in the evening tonight? It wouldn't surprise me if the link is completely saturated. I agree the University/Gigapop should move and/or we should add another 10Gig link between the CNS and main switches. It wouldn't surprise me if the University needs to add a second 10Gig connection!

Oct. 21, 2014

Re: Netflix Ramping Up

by Nathan Beard

Yes, it looks like the link is near maximum capacity and the State of MN link is using 6.5Gbps on the inbound side alone. Hopefully this can be resolved before peak hours tonight, or some of us will be forced to turn down peering until the congestion is alleviated to avoid customer issues. On 10/21/2014 02:51 PM, Jeremy Lumby wrote: > I see Netflix is ramping up, and the link to the CNS switch is getting close to saturating. The University may need to move to the main switch soon to alleviate the link. > > Jeremy Lumby > Minnesota VoIP > 9217 17th Ave S > Suite 216 > Bloomington, MN 55425 > Main: 612-355-7740 x211 > Direct: 612-392-6814 > EFax: 952-873-7425 > jlumby(a)mnvoip.com >

Oct. 21, 2014