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Re: Code42

by Larry Dunn

Jay, I’m no longer with code42, but am cc’ing Matt Tiedeken, who is at code42, just in case he didn’t catch the note. Matt- please confirm when you see this, and I’ll stay out of the way. ;-) Best regards, Larry — > On Jan 5, 2017, at 5:28 PM, Jason Hanke <jayhanke(a)NEUTRALPATH.NET> wrote: > > Is there someone from Code42 that could reach out to me off list? MICE > needs help with a potential peer. > > -- > Jay Hanke > CTO > Neutral Path Communications > 3 Civic Center Plaza, Suite 204 > Mankato, MN 56001 > (507) 327-2398 mobile > jayhanke(a)neutralpath.net > www.neutralpath.net

Jan. 6, 2017

Code42

by Jason Hanke

Is there someone from Code42 that could reach out to me off list? MICE needs help with a potential peer. -- Jay Hanke CTO Neutral Path Communications 3 Civic Center Plaza, Suite 204 Mankato, MN 56001 (507) 327-2398 mobile jayhanke(a)neutralpath.net www.neutralpath.net

Jan. 5, 2017

Re: Please welcome Christensen Communications to MICE!

by Doug McIntyre

On Thu, Jan 05, 2017 at 10:57:26AM -0600, Jason Hanke wrote: > Name: Christensen Communications > ASN: 46494 > IPv4: 206.108.255.74/24 > IPv6: 2001:504:27:0:0:b593::1/64 > Port: Neutral Path Remote ge-0/0/5 > Contact: shannons(a)chriscomco.net > BFD: NO > Route Server: YES I've got the route servers setup and ready to go for them. Welcome! -- Doug McIntyre <merlyn(a)iphouse.net> ~.~ ipHouse ~.~ Network Engineer/Provisioning/Jack of all Trades

Jan. 5, 2017

Port Fees

by Richard Laager

The board has approved port fees in line with the discussion from the most recent UG meeting. The details are documented on the services page on the website: http://micemn.net/services.html If you have one or more ports on the *main* switches, please send accounts payable information to Kayla Powers, our treasurer, at: kpowers(a)neutralpath.net -- Richard

Jan. 5, 2017

Please welcome Christensen Communications to MICE!

by Jason Hanke

Name: Christensen Communications ASN: 46494 IPv4: 206.108.255.74/24 IPv6: 2001:504:27:0:0:b593::1/64 Port: Neutral Path Remote ge-0/0/5 Contact: shannons(a)chriscomco.net BFD: NO Route Server: YES Welcome aboard! -- Jay Hanke CTO Neutral Path Communications 3 Civic Center Plaza, Suite 204 Mankato, MN 56001 (507) 327-2398 mobile jayhanke(a)neutralpath.net www.neutralpath.net

Jan. 5, 2017

Re: Amazon on MICE

by Frank Bulk

Graph shows they dropped to zero overnight: [cid:image001.png@01D26734.735227D0] Frank From: MICE Discuss [mailto:MICE-DISCUSS@LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET] On Behalf Of Michael Hare Sent: Wednesday, January 04, 2017 12:28 PM To: MICE-DISCUSS(a)LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET Subject: Re: [MICE-DISCUSS] Amazon on MICE AS3128 is actively peering with Amazon at MICE and we do not get v4 or v6 icmp responses. -Michael From: MICE Discuss [mailto:MICE-DISCUSS@LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET] On Behalf Of David Farmer Sent: Wednesday, January 04, 2017 12:06 PM To: MICE-DISCUSS(a)LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET<mailto:MICE-DISCUSS@LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET> Subject: Re: [MICE-DISCUSS] Amazon on MICE Yep, that's the address that we are peering with, and it responds to pings from me. Maybe the have an ACL only allowing their peers through. On Wed, Jan 4, 2017 at 11:46 AM, Richard Laager <rlaager(a)wiktel.com<mailto:rlaager@wiktel.com>> wrote: Can either of you confirm that they are on 206.108.255.111? It does not respond to pings for me, though their IPv6 address does. -- Richard -- =============================================== David Farmer Email:farmer@umn.edu<mailto:Email%3Afarmer@umn.edu> Networking & Telecommunication Services Office of Information Technology University of Minnesota 2218 University Ave SE Phone: 612-626-0815 Minneapolis, MN 55414-3029 Cell: 612-812-9952 =============================================== ________________________________ To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1 ________________________________ To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1

Jan. 5, 2017

Amazon Peering

by Jason Hanke

Amazon confirmed that they are up and ready for additional peers on MICE. peering(a)amazon.com -- Jay Hanke CTO Neutral Path Communications 3 Civic Center Plaza, Suite 204 Mankato, MN 56001 (507) 327-2398 mobile jayhanke(a)neutralpath.net www.neutralpath.net

Jan. 4, 2017

Re: Amazon on MICE

by Michael Hare

AS3128 is actively peering with Amazon at MICE and we do not get v4 or v6 icmp responses. -Michael From: MICE Discuss [mailto:MICE-DISCUSS@LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET] On Behalf Of David Farmer Sent: Wednesday, January 04, 2017 12:06 PM To: MICE-DISCUSS(a)LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET Subject: Re: [MICE-DISCUSS] Amazon on MICE Yep, that's the address that we are peering with, and it responds to pings from me. Maybe the have an ACL only allowing their peers through. On Wed, Jan 4, 2017 at 11:46 AM, Richard Laager <rlaager(a)wiktel.com<mailto:rlaager@wiktel.com>> wrote: Can either of you confirm that they are on 206.108.255.111? It does not respond to pings for me, though their IPv6 address does. -- Richard -- =============================================== David Farmer Email:farmer@umn.edu<mailto:Email%3Afarmer@umn.edu> Networking & Telecommunication Services Office of Information Technology University of Minnesota 2218 University Ave SE Phone: 612-626-0815 Minneapolis, MN 55414-3029 Cell: 612-812-9952 =============================================== ________________________________ To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1

Jan. 4, 2017

Re: Amazon on MICE

by David Farmer

Yep, that's the address that we are peering with, and it responds to pings from me. Maybe the have an ACL only allowing their peers through. On Wed, Jan 4, 2017 at 11:46 AM, Richard Laager <rlaager(a)wiktel.com> wrote: > Can either of you confirm that they are on 206.108.255.111? It does not > respond to pings for me, though their IPv6 address does. > > -- > Richard > -- =============================================== David Farmer Email:farmer@umn.edu Networking & Telecommunication Services Office of Information Technology University of Minnesota 2218 University Ave SE Phone: 612-626-0815 Minneapolis, MN 55414-3029 Cell: 612-812-9952 ===============================================

Jan. 4, 2017

Re: Amazon on MICE

by Richard Laager

Can either of you confirm that they are on 206.108.255.111? It does not respond to pings for me, though their IPv6 address does. -- Richard

Jan. 4, 2017

Re: Amazon on MICE

by David Farmer

Yep we see them too. I see 9 IPv4 routes and 2 IPv6 routes from the peering at MICE, where as I see 1600+ IPv4 routes and 450+ IPv6 routes globally from Amazon. I believe they are only making their Edge Services available here, that is primarily Amazon CloudFront (CDN) and maybe Amazon Route53 (DNS), AWS Shield (DDOS Protection), and AWS WAF (Web Application Firewall) as well. But I'm less certain on the last three services. https://aws.amazon.com/about-aws/whats-new/2016/11/amazon-cloudfront-adds-n… https://aws.amazon.com/about-aws/global-infrastructure/regional-product-ser… On Tue, Jan 3, 2017 at 9:43 PM, Frank Bulk <fbulk(a)mypremieronline.com> wrote: > Our BGP sessions with Amazon came alive around 4 pm today, and the graphs > confirm the same: > > http://micelg.usinternet.com/cacti/graph.php?action=view& > local_graph_id=497&rra_id=all > > > > Frank > > > > *From:* MICE Discuss [mailto:MICE-DISCUSS@LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET] *On Behalf > Of *Justin Krejci > *Sent:* Wednesday, December 21, 2016 12:56 PM > *To:* MICE-DISCUSS(a)LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET > *Subject:* [MICE-DISCUSS] Amazon on MICE > > > > From one of their peering engineers, Amazon estimates early January to be > live on MICE. > > -- =============================================== David Farmer Email:farmer@umn.edu Networking & Telecommunication Services Office of Information Technology University of Minnesota 2218 University Ave SE Phone: 612-626-0815 Minneapolis, MN 55414-3029 Cell: 612-812-9952 ===============================================

Jan. 4, 2017

Re: Amazon on MICE

by Frank Bulk

Our BGP sessions with Amazon came alive around 4 pm today, and the graphs confirm the same: http://micelg.usinternet.com/cacti/graph.php?action=view&local_graph_id=497… Frank From: MICE Discuss [mailto:MICE-DISCUSS@LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET] On Behalf Of Justin Krejci Sent: Wednesday, December 21, 2016 12:56 PM To: MICE-DISCUSS(a)LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET Subject: [MICE-DISCUSS] Amazon on MICE >From one of their peering engineers, Amazon estimates early January to be live on MICE. ________________________________ To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1

Jan. 4, 2017

Re: Route server #2 copper connection

by Mike Horwath

As an aside: you didn't give the 3 month notification of emergency remediation. #happyholidays from the troll! -- Mike Horwath, reachable via drechsau(a)Geeks.ORG

Dec. 22, 2016

Re: Route server #2 copper connection

by Mike Horwath

On Thu, Dec 22, 2016 at 03:53:00PM -0600, Jeremy Lumby wrote: > When I went to insert my optic into the switch for my upgraded 10G > connection, I noticed that the cable for route server#2 was against > the cabinet door, and simply opening/closing the door caused the > link to bounce. Since the link had gone down from just opening the > door, I switched the Copper SFP adapter to a different model, and it > appears to be more compatible with the RJ45 connector on the patch > cable since the link now stays up when the cable is moved in a > normal manner. THANKS! -- Mike Horwath, reachable via drechsau(a)Geeks.ORG

Dec. 22, 2016

Route server #2 copper connection

by Jeremy Lumby

When I went to insert my optic into the switch for my upgraded 10G connection, I noticed that the cable for route server#2 was against the cabinet door, and simply opening/closing the door caused the link to bounce. Since the link had gone down from just opening the door, I switched the Copper SFP adapter to a different model, and it appears to be more compatible with the RJ45 connector on the patch cable since the link now stays up when the cable is moved in a normal manner. Jeremy

Dec. 22, 2016

Re: RR#2 cable?

by Frank Bulk

Looks like our BGP session with MRS2 bounced around 3:47 pm. Can someone who has access confirm that the copper link bounced, too? Frank -----Original Message----- From: MICE Discuss [mailto:MICE-DISCUSS@LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET] On Behalf Of Nevin Lyne Sent: Monday, December 19, 2016 11:34 PM To: MICE-DISCUSS(a)LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET Subject: Re: [MICE-DISCUSS] RR#2 cable? I think I have a pair of fiber NICs and optics I can donate for the two systems. I will touch bases with you next time I am in the IPHouse data center, Doug. -Nevin On Monday, December 19, 2016 11:23pm, "Doug McIntyre" <merlyn(a)IPHOUSE.NET> said: > On Mon, Dec 19, 2016 at 10:34:28PM -0600, Matthew Beckwell wrote: >> I reseated the SFP/cable. Appears to be back up and passing traffic. >> Although it didn't seem particularly loose to me. > > Thanks! > > I've seen in the past just certain Cat5e cables and certain manufactorer > machines just didn't play too well together. Swap out one for the other > and it works fine. Probably the race to the bottom/cheapest in commodity > parts gives some pretty loose tolerances sometimes. > > I think Jeremy has some spares, although I don't know what. We could > probably also do a fiber NIC in the RR's at some point as well if we > didn't want to get a copper SFP involved. > > -- > Doug McIntyre <merlyn(a)iphouse.net> > ~.~ ipHouse ~.~ > Network Engineer/Provisioning/Jack of all Trades > -- Nevin Lyne -- Founder & Director of Technology -- Arcustech, LLC. - arcustech.com -- Gippy's Internet Solutions, LLC. - enginehosting.com

Dec. 22, 2016

Amazon on MICE

by Justin Krejci

>From one of their peering engineers, Amazon estimates early January to be live on MICE.

Dec. 21, 2016

Re: RR#2 cable?

by Nevin Lyne

I think I have a pair of fiber NICs and optics I can donate for the two systems. I will touch bases with you next time I am in the IPHouse data center, Doug. -Nevin On Monday, December 19, 2016 11:23pm, "Doug McIntyre" <merlyn(a)IPHOUSE.NET> said: > On Mon, Dec 19, 2016 at 10:34:28PM -0600, Matthew Beckwell wrote: >> I reseated the SFP/cable. Appears to be back up and passing traffic. >> Although it didn't seem particularly loose to me. > > Thanks! > > I've seen in the past just certain Cat5e cables and certain manufactorer > machines just didn't play too well together. Swap out one for the other > and it works fine. Probably the race to the bottom/cheapest in commodity > parts gives some pretty loose tolerances sometimes. > > I think Jeremy has some spares, although I don't know what. We could > probably also do a fiber NIC in the RR's at some point as well if we > didn't want to get a copper SFP involved. > > -- > Doug McIntyre <merlyn(a)iphouse.net> > ~.~ ipHouse ~.~ > Network Engineer/Provisioning/Jack of all Trades > -- Nevin Lyne -- Founder & Director of Technology -- Arcustech, LLC. - arcustech.com -- Gippy's Internet Solutions, LLC. - enginehosting.com

Dec. 20, 2016

Re: RR#2 cable?

by Doug McIntyre

On Mon, Dec 19, 2016 at 10:34:28PM -0600, Matthew Beckwell wrote: > I reseated the SFP/cable. Appears to be back up and passing traffic. > Although it didn't seem particularly loose to me. Thanks! I've seen in the past just certain Cat5e cables and certain manufactorer machines just didn't play too well together. Swap out one for the other and it works fine. Probably the race to the bottom/cheapest in commodity parts gives some pretty loose tolerances sometimes. I think Jeremy has some spares, although I don't know what. We could probably also do a fiber NIC in the RR's at some point as well if we didn't want to get a copper SFP involved. -- Doug McIntyre <merlyn(a)iphouse.net> ~.~ ipHouse ~.~ Network Engineer/Provisioning/Jack of all Trades

Dec. 20, 2016

Re: RR#2 cable?

by Dean Bahls

Seems that someone beat us to the punch. We didn't get down there as early as hoped. Sorry about that. Dean -----Original Message----- From: MICE Discuss [mailto:MICE-DISCUSS@LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET] On Behalf Of Doug McIntyre Sent: Monday, December 19, 2016 5:56 PM To: MICE-DISCUSS(a)LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET Subject: Re: [MICE-DISCUSS] RR#2 cable? Sure, in the MICE cabinet (which I'm not sure of the number, it is in the row parallel against the back wall in Suite 100 farthest way from the entry door, in the top of a 1/3rd cabinet with MICE name on a label..) On the EX4550 switch (there's only one EX4550 switch, it is the 1U fiber switch), in port ge-2/0/0 (ie. the first port), is a copper SFP (again, the only one there is). All that needs to happen is to push that copper cross-connect in, the spring action has probably pushed it just a little too far out for good contact. That is what it was last time. And I think in general we should probably move that copper connection back to the copper switches, but for now, just pushing it in would be good to go. On Mon, Dec 19, 2016 at 05:42:33PM -0600, Dean Bahls wrote: > We have someone going down there in about an hour or two. He's never > been in that cabinet so if you have VERY EXPLICIT instructions, we can > have him do it. > > Lemme know. > > Dean > > > -----Original Message----- > From: MICE Discuss [mailto:MICE-DISCUSS@LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET] On Behalf > Of Doug McIntyre > Sent: Monday, December 19, 2016 5:37 PM > To: MICE-DISCUSS(a)LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET > Subject: [MICE-DISCUSS] RR#2 cable? > > Anybody close to 511 today? > > Looks like the cable has snaked its way out again for RR#2. > > Dec 19 17:04:19 micemn-02 kernel: bge1: link state changed to DOWN > > The machine is up and talking back on the mgmt link. It is link down > on both the switch and the machine for the link into the switch stack. > > I'm sure if somebody goes and pushes on the cable again it'll be link up. > > Looks like that cable and that copper-SFP aren't too compatico. > It might be better to not have switch diversity for them. > > -- > Doug McIntyre <merlyn(a)iphouse.net> > ~.~ ipHouse ~.~ > Network Engineer/Provisioning/Jack of all Trades -- Doug McIntyre <merlyn(a)iphouse.net> ~.~ ipHouse ~.~ Network Engineer/Provisioning/Jack of all Trades

Dec. 20, 2016

Re: RR#2 cable?

by Matthew Beckwell

I reseated the SFP/cable. Appears to be back up and passing traffic. Although it didn't seem particularly loose to me. ~Matthew On Mon, Dec 19, 2016 at 5:37 PM, Doug McIntyre <merlyn(a)iphouse.net> wrote: > Anybody close to 511 today? > > Looks like the cable has snaked its way out again for RR#2. > > Dec 19 17:04:19 micemn-02 kernel: bge1: link state changed to DOWN > > The machine is up and talking back on the mgmt link. It is link down > on both the switch and the machine for the link into the switch stack. > > I'm sure if somebody goes and pushes on the cable again it'll be link up. > > Looks like that cable and that copper-SFP aren't too compatico. > It might be better to not have switch diversity for them. > > -- > Doug McIntyre <merlyn(a)iphouse.net> > ~.~ ipHouse ~.~ > Network Engineer/Provisioning/Jack of all Trades >

Dec. 20, 2016

Re: RR#2 cable?

by Frank Bulk

Just saw it come back up -- thanks. -----Original Message----- From: MICE Discuss [mailto:MICE-DISCUSS@LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET] On Behalf Of Doug McIntyre Sent: Monday, December 19, 2016 5:37 PM To: MICE-DISCUSS(a)LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET Subject: [MICE-DISCUSS] RR#2 cable? Anybody close to 511 today? Looks like the cable has snaked its way out again for RR#2. Dec 19 17:04:19 micemn-02 kernel: bge1: link state changed to DOWN The machine is up and talking back on the mgmt link. It is link down on both the switch and the machine for the link into the switch stack. I'm sure if somebody goes and pushes on the cable again it'll be link up. Looks like that cable and that copper-SFP aren't too compatico. It might be better to not have switch diversity for them. -- Doug McIntyre <merlyn(a)iphouse.net> ~.~ ipHouse ~.~ Network Engineer/Provisioning/Jack of all Trades

Dec. 20, 2016

Re: RR#2 cable?

by Justin Krejci

Assuming it is the same problem as before, does it just need a new SFP or a new RJ45 end on the cable? US Internet would be happy to donate either as needed. ________________________________________ From: MICE Discuss [MICE-DISCUSS(a)LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET] on behalf of Doug McIntyre [merlyn(a)IPHOUSE.NET] Sent: Monday, December 19, 2016 5:55 PM To: MICE-DISCUSS(a)LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET Subject: Re: [MICE-DISCUSS] RR#2 cable? Sure, in the MICE cabinet (which I'm not sure of the number, it is in the row parallel against the back wall in Suite 100 farthest way from the entry door, in the top of a 1/3rd cabinet with MICE name on a label..) On the EX4550 switch (there's only one EX4550 switch, it is the 1U fiber switch), in port ge-2/0/0 (ie. the first port), is a copper SFP (again, the only one there is). All that needs to happen is to push that copper cross-connect in, the spring action has probably pushed it just a little too far out for good contact. That is what it was last time. And I think in general we should probably move that copper connection back to the copper switches, but for now, just pushing it in would be good to go. On Mon, Dec 19, 2016 at 05:42:33PM -0600, Dean Bahls wrote: > We have someone going down there in about an hour or two. He's never been > in that cabinet so if you have VERY EXPLICIT instructions, we can have him > do it. > > Lemme know. > > Dean > > > -----Original Message----- > From: MICE Discuss [mailto:MICE-DISCUSS@LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET] On Behalf Of Doug > McIntyre > Sent: Monday, December 19, 2016 5:37 PM > To: MICE-DISCUSS(a)LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET > Subject: [MICE-DISCUSS] RR#2 cable? > > Anybody close to 511 today? > > Looks like the cable has snaked its way out again for RR#2. > > Dec 19 17:04:19 micemn-02 kernel: bge1: link state changed to DOWN > > The machine is up and talking back on the mgmt link. It is link down on both > the switch and the machine for the link into the switch stack. > > I'm sure if somebody goes and pushes on the cable again it'll be link up. > > Looks like that cable and that copper-SFP aren't too compatico. > It might be better to not have switch diversity for them. > > -- > Doug McIntyre <merlyn(a)iphouse.net> > ~.~ ipHouse ~.~ > Network Engineer/Provisioning/Jack of all Trades -- Doug McIntyre <merlyn(a)iphouse.net> ~.~ ipHouse ~.~ Network Engineer/Provisioning/Jack of all Trades

Dec. 19, 2016

Re: RR#2 cable?

by Doug McIntyre

Sure, in the MICE cabinet (which I'm not sure of the number, it is in the row parallel against the back wall in Suite 100 farthest way from the entry door, in the top of a 1/3rd cabinet with MICE name on a label..) On the EX4550 switch (there's only one EX4550 switch, it is the 1U fiber switch), in port ge-2/0/0 (ie. the first port), is a copper SFP (again, the only one there is). All that needs to happen is to push that copper cross-connect in, the spring action has probably pushed it just a little too far out for good contact. That is what it was last time. And I think in general we should probably move that copper connection back to the copper switches, but for now, just pushing it in would be good to go. On Mon, Dec 19, 2016 at 05:42:33PM -0600, Dean Bahls wrote: > We have someone going down there in about an hour or two. He's never been > in that cabinet so if you have VERY EXPLICIT instructions, we can have him > do it. > > Lemme know. > > Dean > > > -----Original Message----- > From: MICE Discuss [mailto:MICE-DISCUSS@LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET] On Behalf Of Doug > McIntyre > Sent: Monday, December 19, 2016 5:37 PM > To: MICE-DISCUSS(a)LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET > Subject: [MICE-DISCUSS] RR#2 cable? > > Anybody close to 511 today? > > Looks like the cable has snaked its way out again for RR#2. > > Dec 19 17:04:19 micemn-02 kernel: bge1: link state changed to DOWN > > The machine is up and talking back on the mgmt link. It is link down on both > the switch and the machine for the link into the switch stack. > > I'm sure if somebody goes and pushes on the cable again it'll be link up. > > Looks like that cable and that copper-SFP aren't too compatico. > It might be better to not have switch diversity for them. > > -- > Doug McIntyre <merlyn(a)iphouse.net> > ~.~ ipHouse ~.~ > Network Engineer/Provisioning/Jack of all Trades -- Doug McIntyre <merlyn(a)iphouse.net> ~.~ ipHouse ~.~ Network Engineer/Provisioning/Jack of all Trades

Dec. 19, 2016

Re: RR#2 cable?

by Dean Bahls

We have someone going down there in about an hour or two. He's never been in that cabinet so if you have VERY EXPLICIT instructions, we can have him do it. Lemme know. Dean -----Original Message----- From: MICE Discuss [mailto:MICE-DISCUSS@LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET] On Behalf Of Doug McIntyre Sent: Monday, December 19, 2016 5:37 PM To: MICE-DISCUSS(a)LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET Subject: [MICE-DISCUSS] RR#2 cable? Anybody close to 511 today? Looks like the cable has snaked its way out again for RR#2. Dec 19 17:04:19 micemn-02 kernel: bge1: link state changed to DOWN The machine is up and talking back on the mgmt link. It is link down on both the switch and the machine for the link into the switch stack. I'm sure if somebody goes and pushes on the cable again it'll be link up. Looks like that cable and that copper-SFP aren't too compatico. It might be better to not have switch diversity for them. -- Doug McIntyre <merlyn(a)iphouse.net> ~.~ ipHouse ~.~ Network Engineer/Provisioning/Jack of all Trades

Dec. 19, 2016