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Re: Arista Support Contract

by Mike Horwath

On Fri, Feb 02, 2018 at 12:03:08AM -0600, Richard Laager wrote: > We can afford to pay outright under the terms offered. We pay half > now, leaving plenty of money in the bank. We continue to collect > port fees. Later in the year, we pay the second half, leaving plenty > of money in the bank. This seems legit. Thanks, Arista, for this payment plan! -- Mike Horwath, reachable via drechsau(a)Geeks.ORG

Feb. 2, 2018

Re: Arista Support Contract

by Jeremy Lumby

As for a "loan/donation" If MICE were to get the bank account down to minimum values to pay the support contract for 3 years, and port fees were slower than expected to come in, you can count on me to personally loan/donate MICE the fees to cover other normal expenses like ARIN fees, or misc parts. From: MICE Discuss [mailto:MICE-DISCUSS@LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET] On Behalf Of Jason Hanke Sent: Thursday, February 01, 2018 11:35 PM To: MICE-DISCUSS(a)LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET Subject: Re: [MICE-DISCUSS] Arista Support Contract imho donations are going to shift the burden back to the faithful. This is a normal business expense and the savings will help everyone. As far as source for a possible loan, I would ask our bank first and then open it up to members and outsiders take the best deal. The bank is usually the cheapest money. On Feb 1, 2018 11:00 PM, "Richard Laager" <rlaager(a)wiktel.com> wrote: On 02/01/2018 09:35 PM, Jason Hanke wrote: > How about getting a loan to cover the difference? That way we could get > the savings and not affect the revenue percentages. The message of mine you replied to was about the 85% rule, which applies to revenue. That was in the context of donations. We need to ensure that, each year, our revenue is at least 85% derived from members. For small donations that together don't add up to anywhere near 15%, this is not a concern. If someone wants to make a _sizable_ donation or we get a lot of small donations, that should be okay as long as they are from members, but we may want to double-check with a professional first. If non-member donations would push member-derived revenue under the 85% mark, we lose our Federal tax-exempt status for that year. See: https://www.irs.gov/irm/part7/irm_07-025-012 However, there is a _separate_ issue as to whether donations from members count in the same way as purchases (i.e. port fees) when calculating capital credits. If someone wants to donate, we'll need to seek professional guidance about how to handle that. Either way, I imagine we would be able to accept the donation. As far as I can see, loans aren't relevant to the 85% member revenue test. Putting three year's worth of major expenses into one year would have an effect on capital credits. As far as I know, we are accounting on a cash basis. By "bunching" expenses into the first year, our profit will be lower in the first year and higher in the second and third years. This means that members will accrue lower capital credits in year one and higher capital credits in years two and three. If everything else was equal (no members come or go or pay different port fees), this would be irrelevant. But in practice, it will create some variation. With cash basis accounting, it seems to me that a loan should smooth that out. Is that variation in capital credits a problem? Probably not. It seems like it's going to be part of the natural cycle. I expect our typical pattern over the long term will be to build up cash for a while and then spend a big chunk on switch hardware before starting the cycle over. -- Richard To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1

Feb. 2, 2018

Re: Arista Support Contract

by Richard Laager

On 02/01/2018 11:34 PM, Jason Hanke wrote: > This is a normal business expense I agree. > As far as source for a possible loan Why is a loan desirable? We can afford to pay outright under the terms offered. We pay half now, leaving plenty of money in the bank. We continue to collect port fees. Later in the year, we pay the second half, leaving plenty of money in the bank. When this comes up for renewal in 3 years, we'll easily be able to pay it all at once with no special dispensation necessary. -- Richard

Feb. 2, 2018

Re: Arista Support Contract

by Jason Hanke

imho donations are going to shift the burden back to the faithful. This is a normal business expense and the savings will help everyone. As far as source for a possible loan, I would ask our bank first and then open it up to members and outsiders take the best deal. The bank is usually the cheapest money. On Feb 1, 2018 11:00 PM, "Richard Laager" <rlaager(a)wiktel.com> wrote: > On 02/01/2018 09:35 PM, Jason Hanke wrote: > > How about getting a loan to cover the difference? That way we could get > > the savings and not affect the revenue percentages. > The message of mine you replied to was about the 85% rule, which applies > to revenue. That was in the context of donations. We need to ensure > that, each year, our revenue is at least 85% derived from members. For > small donations that together don't add up to anywhere near 15%, this is > not a concern. If someone wants to make a _sizable_ donation or we get a > lot of small donations, that should be okay as long as they are from > members, but we may want to double-check with a professional first. If > non-member donations would push member-derived revenue under the 85% > mark, we lose our Federal tax-exempt status for that year. > See: https://www.irs.gov/irm/part7/irm_07-025-012 > > However, there is a _separate_ issue as to whether donations from > members count in the same way as purchases (i.e. port fees) when > calculating capital credits. If someone wants to donate, we'll need to > seek professional guidance about how to handle that. Either way, I > imagine we would be able to accept the donation. > > As far as I can see, loans aren't relevant to the 85% member revenue test. > > Putting three year's worth of major expenses into one year would have an > effect on capital credits. As far as I know, we are accounting on a cash > basis. By "bunching" expenses into the first year, our profit will be > lower in the first year and higher in the second and third years. This > means that members will accrue lower capital credits in year one and > higher capital credits in years two and three. If everything else was > equal (no members come or go or pay different port fees), this would be > irrelevant. But in practice, it will create some variation. With cash > basis accounting, it seems to me that a loan should smooth that out. > > Is that variation in capital credits a problem? Probably not. It seems > like it's going to be part of the natural cycle. I expect our typical > pattern over the long term will be to build up cash for a while and then > spend a big chunk on switch hardware before starting the cycle over. > > -- > Richard >

Feb. 2, 2018

Re: Arista Support Contract

by Richard Laager

On 02/01/2018 09:35 PM, Jason Hanke wrote: > How about getting a loan to cover the difference? That way we could get > the savings and not affect the revenue percentages. The message of mine you replied to was about the 85% rule, which applies to revenue. That was in the context of donations. We need to ensure that, each year, our revenue is at least 85% derived from members. For small donations that together don't add up to anywhere near 15%, this is not a concern. If someone wants to make a _sizable_ donation or we get a lot of small donations, that should be okay as long as they are from members, but we may want to double-check with a professional first. If non-member donations would push member-derived revenue under the 85% mark, we lose our Federal tax-exempt status for that year. See: https://www.irs.gov/irm/part7/irm_07-025-012 However, there is a _separate_ issue as to whether donations from members count in the same way as purchases (i.e. port fees) when calculating capital credits. If someone wants to donate, we'll need to seek professional guidance about how to handle that. Either way, I imagine we would be able to accept the donation. As far as I can see, loans aren't relevant to the 85% member revenue test. Putting three year's worth of major expenses into one year would have an effect on capital credits. As far as I know, we are accounting on a cash basis. By "bunching" expenses into the first year, our profit will be lower in the first year and higher in the second and third years. This means that members will accrue lower capital credits in year one and higher capital credits in years two and three. If everything else was equal (no members come or go or pay different port fees), this would be irrelevant. But in practice, it will create some variation. With cash basis accounting, it seems to me that a loan should smooth that out. Is that variation in capital credits a problem? Probably not. It seems like it's going to be part of the natural cycle. I expect our typical pattern over the long term will be to build up cash for a while and then spend a big chunk on switch hardware before starting the cycle over. -- Richard

Feb. 2, 2018

Re: Arista Support Contract

by Richard Laager

On 02/01/2018 09:32 PM, David Farmer wrote: > your fiduciary responsibility to the membership comes first, agreeing to > keep the total expenditure confidential once made would not be > inconsistent with that responsibility in my opinion. I assume you meant "would not be consistent" or "would be inconsistent". I have not made any specific or additional confidentiality or non-disclosure agreements as part of this process. Arista has not made any requests in this regard beyond the boilerplate on their quote documents. I am just trying to honor what I see as the normal convention in such matters. I do not anticipate any change in the normal treasurer's reports. That is, yes, I expect the payments will be disclosed once made as usual. If the guidance from the membership is that this is unacceptable and I should publicly disclose all the numbers now, I can put that to Arista. -- Richard

Feb. 2, 2018

Re: Arista Support Contract

by Reid Fishler

Loan from? Reid On Feb 1, 2018 10:35 PM, "Jason Hanke" <jayhanke(a)neutralpath.net> wrote: > How about getting a loan to cover the difference? That way we could get > the savings and not affect the revenue percentages. > > On Feb 1, 2018 8:17 PM, "Richard Laager" <rlaager(a)wiktel.com> wrote: > >> > On Feb 1, 2018, at 19:45, Jeremy Lumby <jlumby(a)MNVOIP.COM> wrote: >> > >> > It is also a nice time to call for any donations. >> >> On donations, free money is obviously great, but we do need to watch the >> 85% rule now that we are a co-op. If someone is interested in donating, >> please contact me off-list. >> >> Paying your port fees invoice promptly is also helpful here. >> >> -- >> Richard > > > ------------------------------ > > To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: > http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1 >

Feb. 2, 2018

Re: Arista Support Contract

by Jason Hanke

How about getting a loan to cover the difference? That way we could get the savings and not affect the revenue percentages. On Feb 1, 2018 8:17 PM, "Richard Laager" <rlaager(a)wiktel.com> wrote: > > On Feb 1, 2018, at 19:45, Jeremy Lumby <jlumby(a)MNVOIP.COM> wrote: > > > > It is also a nice time to call for any donations. > > On donations, free money is obviously great, but we do need to watch the > 85% rule now that we are a co-op. If someone is interested in donating, > please contact me off-list. > > Paying your port fees invoice promptly is also helpful here. > > -- > Richard

Feb. 2, 2018

Re: Arista Support Contract

by David Farmer

I expect the resulting total expenditure to be disclosed to the membership, once the expenditure is made. The specific line-item details are unnecessary and should be kept confidential. However, your fiduciary responsibility to the membership comes first, agreeing to keep the total expenditure confidential once made would not be inconsistent with that responsibility in my opinion. Thanks. On Thu, Feb 1, 2018 at 8:29 PM, Richard Laager <rlaager(a)wiktel.com> wrote: > Just to be clear: the numbers are deliberately missing here on the public > discuss list. I am keeping the other board members fully informed on all > the details, including specific numbers, of course. > > -- > Richard -- =============================================== David Farmer Email:farmer@umn.edu Networking & Telecommunication Services Office of Information Technology University of Minnesota 2218 University Ave SE Phone: 612-626-0815 Minneapolis, MN 55414-3029 Cell: 612-812-9952 ===============================================

Feb. 2, 2018

Re: Arista Support Contract

by Richard Laager

Just to be clear: the numbers are deliberately missing here on the public discuss list. I am keeping the other board members fully informed on all the details, including specific numbers, of course. -- Richard

Feb. 2, 2018

Re: Arista Support Contract

by Richard Laager

> On Feb 1, 2018, at 19:50, Andrew Hoyos <hoyosa(a)GMAIL.COM> wrote: > > I’m a numbers guy - can you fill in the blanks on what 1yr vs 3yr contract costs are, and what’s in the bank now vs what’s expected when folks pay this years port fees? The numbers are deliberately missing. Vendors tend to expect/require confidentiality on pricing. I can take numbers from you though. If you wish to share your thoughts on what 1 vs 3 year ratios are fair, a minimum balance for MICE to maintain, etc., please do. -- Richard

Feb. 2, 2018

Re: Arista Support Contract

by Richard Laager

> On Feb 1, 2018, at 19:45, Jeremy Lumby <jlumby(a)MNVOIP.COM> wrote: > > It is also a nice time to call for any donations. On donations, free money is obviously great, but we do need to watch the 85% rule now that we are a co-op. If someone is interested in donating, please contact me off-list. Paying your port fees invoice promptly is also helpful here. -- Richard

Feb. 2, 2018

Re: Arista Support Contract

by David Farmer

+1 Sent from my iPhone > On Feb 1, 2018, at 19:45, Jeremy Lumby <jlumby(a)MNVOIP.COM> wrote: > > I think it is worth getting the discount even though it draws the account down quite a bit. Thanks Arista for allowing the split. It is also a nice time to call for any donations. If anyone has been thinking about donating, but was on the fence about when, now would be a great time! > > -----Original Message----- > From: MICE Discuss [mailto:MICE-DISCUSS@LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET] On Behalf Of Richard Laager > Sent: Thursday, February 01, 2018 6:52 PM > To: MICE-DISCUSS(a)LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET > Subject: [MICE-DISCUSS] Arista Support Contract > > MICE is responsible for the on-going support contract costs for the main > Arista switch. This was factored into the design of the port fees. > > We have received quotes from Arista. As is customary, the three-year > price is cheaper per year than the one-year price. The savings is > non-trivial, especially relative to our annual revenue, so I think it > would be wise to purchase the three-year contract. > > The three-year contract cost is more than our current cash balance. > After we collect this year's port fees, we will be able to cover it > while keeping a reasonable reserve. However, we need to do something > sooner, as it needs to be renewed this month. Fortunately, Arista has > offered to let us split the order in two halves to avoid us drawing the > bank balance too close to zero. > > Does the membership have any input they'd like to provide the board in > this matter? > > -- > Richard

Feb. 2, 2018

Re: Arista Support Contract

by Andrew Hoyos

I’m a numbers guy - can you fill in the blanks on what 1yr vs 3yr contract costs are, and what’s in the bank now vs what’s expected when folks pay this years port fees? I’m sure it’s a no brainer to go with the 3year option, but having actual numbers to back it up are helpful here :) Also, with the order split scenario, when would they expect payments? Thanks! — Andrew Hoyos hoyosa(a)gmail.com > On Feb 1, 2018, at 6:51 PM, Richard Laager <rlaager(a)WIKTEL.COM> wrote: > > MICE is responsible for the on-going support contract costs for the main > Arista switch. This was factored into the design of the port fees. > > We have received quotes from Arista. As is customary, the three-year > price is cheaper per year than the one-year price. The savings is > non-trivial, especially relative to our annual revenue, so I think it > would be wise to purchase the three-year contract. > > The three-year contract cost is more than our current cash balance. > After we collect this year's port fees, we will be able to cover it > while keeping a reasonable reserve. However, we need to do something > sooner, as it needs to be renewed this month. Fortunately, Arista has > offered to let us split the order in two halves to avoid us drawing the > bank balance too close to zero. > > Does the membership have any input they'd like to provide the board in > this matter? > > -- > Richard

Feb. 2, 2018

Re: Arista Support Contract

by Jeremy Lumby

I think it is worth getting the discount even though it draws the account down quite a bit. Thanks Arista for allowing the split. It is also a nice time to call for any donations. If anyone has been thinking about donating, but was on the fence about when, now would be a great time! -----Original Message----- From: MICE Discuss [mailto:MICE-DISCUSS@LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET] On Behalf Of Richard Laager Sent: Thursday, February 01, 2018 6:52 PM To: MICE-DISCUSS(a)LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET Subject: [MICE-DISCUSS] Arista Support Contract MICE is responsible for the on-going support contract costs for the main Arista switch. This was factored into the design of the port fees. We have received quotes from Arista. As is customary, the three-year price is cheaper per year than the one-year price. The savings is non-trivial, especially relative to our annual revenue, so I think it would be wise to purchase the three-year contract. The three-year contract cost is more than our current cash balance. After we collect this year's port fees, we will be able to cover it while keeping a reasonable reserve. However, we need to do something sooner, as it needs to be renewed this month. Fortunately, Arista has offered to let us split the order in two halves to avoid us drawing the bank balance too close to zero. Does the membership have any input they'd like to provide the board in this matter? -- Richard

Feb. 2, 2018

Arista Support Contract

by Richard Laager

MICE is responsible for the on-going support contract costs for the main Arista switch. This was factored into the design of the port fees. We have received quotes from Arista. As is customary, the three-year price is cheaper per year than the one-year price. The savings is non-trivial, especially relative to our annual revenue, so I think it would be wise to purchase the three-year contract. The three-year contract cost is more than our current cash balance. After we collect this year's port fees, we will be able to cover it while keeping a reasonable reserve. However, we need to do something sooner, as it needs to be renewed this month. Fortunately, Arista has offered to let us split the order in two halves to avoid us drawing the bank balance too close to zero. Does the membership have any input they'd like to provide the board in this matter? -- Richard

Feb. 2, 2018

Wow - new record traffic?

by Michael Hemphill

Hey MICE members. I see that last night MICE hit 233 Gig In & Out!! Is this a new peak for the exchange? State of the Union I suspect. Mike Mike Hemphill ColoConnect 612-812-5242 mikeh(a)ColoConnect.net<mailto:mikeh@ColoConnect.net> http://www.ColoConnect.net/ [cid:image003.jpg@01D39A8B.DB245780]

Jan. 31, 2018

Yahoo IPv4 prefix count limits tripped this morning

by Frank Bulk

Our IPv4 prefix count limits for two peering sessions with Yahoo (now Oath) tripped this morning around 3:04 and 3:11, respectively. They went from being under 163 to 219, at least a 30% increase. Just curious, are they doing some consolidation? The graph at bgp.he.net suggests that they've been at the 219 level for some months, so perhaps these are some prefixes that are only just now are showing up at MICE? Frank

Jan. 25, 2018

MN VoIP 40G upgrade

by Jason Hanke

MN Voip is upgrading the link to their remote switch to 40G. The new port will be Ethernet 3/6/1 -- Jay Hanke CTO Neutral Path Communications 3 Civic Center Plaza, Suite 204 Mankato, MN 56001 (507) 327-2398 mobile jayhanke(a)neutralpath.net www.neutralpath.net

Jan. 24, 2018

Re: Akamai bounce and graph

by DeLong, Owen

Yes please. We don’t disclose per-port statistics generally. Owen On Jan 18, 2018, at 07:37 , Jeremy Lumby <jlumby(a)MNVOIP.COM<mailto:jlumby@MNVOIP.COM>> wrote: My session bounced as well. When Marty was at Akamai, he requested that their graph be private. From: MICE Discuss [mailto:MICE-DISCUSS@LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET] On Behalf Of Frank Bulk Sent: Thursday, January 18, 2018 9:29 AM To: MICE-DISCUSS(a)LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET<mailto:MICE-DISCUSS@LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET> Subject: [MICE-DISCUSS] Akamai bounce and graph We saw our peering session with Akamai bounce around 9:10 am – anyone else? Jan 18 09:11:30 192.168.0.85 BGP: Peer 206.108.255.84 UP (ESTABLISHED) Jan 18 09:11:38 192.168.0.85 BGP: Peer 2001:504:27::51cc:0:1 UP (ESTABLISHED) And for some reason Akamai’s Cacti graph doesn’t show up in the Arista -> Traffic section. Is that opaque on purpose? I ask because when I click through it says “ACCESS DENIED” (in red =) ). Frank AS53347 ________________________________ To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1<https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__lists.iphouse.net_cgi-2…> ________________________________ To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1<https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__lists.iphouse.net_cgi-2…>

Jan. 18, 2018

Re: Akamai bounce and graph

by Jeremy Lumby

My session bounced as well. When Marty was at Akamai, he requested that their graph be private. From: MICE Discuss [mailto:MICE-DISCUSS@LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET] On Behalf Of Frank Bulk Sent: Thursday, January 18, 2018 9:29 AM To: MICE-DISCUSS(a)LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET Subject: [MICE-DISCUSS] Akamai bounce and graph We saw our peering session with Akamai bounce around 9:10 am – anyone else? Jan 18 09:11:30 192.168.0.85 BGP: Peer 206.108.255.84 UP (ESTABLISHED) Jan 18 09:11:38 192.168.0.85 BGP: Peer 2001:504:27::51cc:0:1 UP (ESTABLISHED) And for some reason Akamai’s Cacti graph doesn’t show up in the Arista -> Traffic section. Is that opaque on purpose? I ask because when I click through it says “ACCESS DENIED” (in red =) ). Frank AS53347 To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1

Jan. 18, 2018

Akamai bounce and graph

by Frank Bulk

We saw our peering session with Akamai bounce around 9:10 am - anyone else? Jan 18 09:11:30 192.168.0.85 BGP: Peer 206.108.255.84 UP (ESTABLISHED) Jan 18 09:11:38 192.168.0.85 BGP: Peer 2001:504:27::51cc:0:1 UP (ESTABLISHED) And for some reason Akamai's Cacti graph doesn't show up in the Arista -> Traffic section. Is that opaque on purpose? I ask because when I click through it says "ACCESS DENIED" (in red =) ). Frank AS53347

Jan. 18, 2018

Re: MICE Looking Glass router

by David Farmer

Thanks, guys, you're the best! On Wed, Jan 17, 2018 at 12:08 PM, Justin Krejci <JKrejci(a)usinternet.com> wrote: > David, ask and thou shall receive, so sayeth Anthony, Jeremy, Doug and > Justin.... > > > > micemn-lg>*show bgp ipv4 u 8.45.162.0/24 <http://8.45.162.0/24>* > BGP routing table entry for 8.45.162.0/24, version 170 > Paths: (2 available, best #1, table default) > Not advertised to any peer > Refresh Epoch 1 > 6939 46887 395343 395343 395343 > 206.108.255.52 from 206.108.255.1 (206.108.255.1) > Origin IGP, metric 265, localpref 100, valid, external, best > Community: 0:2906 0:12989 0:13335 0:15133 0:15169 0:16509 0:20940 > 0:22822 0:36040 > Refresh Epoch 1 > 6939 46887 395343 395343 395343 > 206.108.255.52 from 206.108.255.2 (206.108.255.2) > Origin IGP, metric 265, localpref 100, valid, external > Community: 0:2906 0:12989 0:13335 0:15133 0:15169 0:16509 0:20940 > 0:22822 0:36040 > micemn-lg> > > > > > ------------------------------ > *From:* MICE Discuss <MICE-DISCUSS(a)LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET> on behalf of David > Farmer <farmer(a)UMN.EDU> > *Sent:* Friday, January 5, 2018 12:13 PM > *To:* MICE-DISCUSS(a)LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET > *Subject:* [MICE-DISCUSS] MICE Looking Glass router > > The MICE Looking Glass router doesn't seem to be supporting 4-byte ASNs. > > Could someone upgrade the code please. > > Thanks. > > > -- > =============================================== > David Farmer Email:farmer@umn.edu > Networking & Telecommunication Services > Office of Information Technology > University of Minnesota > 2218 University Ave SE > <https://maps.google.com/?q=2218+University+Ave+SE&entry=gmail&source=g> > Phone: 612-626-0815 <(612)%20626-0815> > Minneapolis, MN 55414-3029 Cell: 612-812-9952 <(612)%20812-9952> > =============================================== > > ------------------------------ > > To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: > http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1 > > ------------------------------ > > To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: > http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1 > -- =============================================== David Farmer Email:farmer@umn.edu Networking & Telecommunication Services Office of Information Technology University of Minnesota 2218 University Ave SE Phone: 612-626-0815 Minneapolis, MN 55414-3029 Cell: 612-812-9952 ===============================================

Jan. 17, 2018

Re: UG 27 / MTA

by Reid Fishler

I can't make Wed after the show, I have to run out back to NY. Reid On Jan 17, 2018 1:07 PM, "Richard Laager" <rlaager(a)wiktel.com> wrote: MTA has agreed to give us a table across from the registration desk. Ideally, we would have someone sit there to talk about MICE with anyone interested. Here are the MTA registration times: Monday, March 26 - 12:00 pm - 6:30 pm Tuesday, March 27 - 7:30 am - 5:00 pm Wednesday, March 28 - 7:30 am - 12:00 pm I'd imagine most people will be registering on Monday or early Tuesday. I'm happy to sit there, but our UG 27 meeting is currently scheduled for Monday at 3:00, which pretty much shoots the whole Monday timeslot. At best, I could setup some things on the table and then rush to 511 for the UG meeting. One option is to move the UG meeting to Tuesday, March 27 at 3:00. This would allow me (and/or anyone else interested) to sit at the MICE table on Monday afternoon and Tuesday morning. On the other hand, if someone was planning on attending both MTA and UG 27, it seems like this would create a conflict. Another option would be to leave the meeting as is, and have someone else (who would skip the UG meeting) volunteer to sit at the table on Monday. A third option would be to reschedule the UG meeting to Wednesday, after MTA concludes. How do you feel about these options? Any other suggestions? -- Richard

Jan. 17, 2018

Re: MICE Looking Glass router

by Justin Krejci

David, ask and thou shall receive, so sayeth Anthony, Jeremy, Doug and Justin.... micemn-lg>show bgp ipv4 u 8.45.162.0/24 BGP routing table entry for 8.45.162.0/24, version 170 Paths: (2 available, best #1, table default) Not advertised to any peer Refresh Epoch 1 6939 46887 395343 395343 395343 206.108.255.52 from 206.108.255.1 (206.108.255.1) Origin IGP, metric 265, localpref 100, valid, external, best Community: 0:2906 0:12989 0:13335 0:15133 0:15169 0:16509 0:20940 0:22822 0:36040 Refresh Epoch 1 6939 46887 395343 395343 395343 206.108.255.52 from 206.108.255.2 (206.108.255.2) Origin IGP, metric 265, localpref 100, valid, external Community: 0:2906 0:12989 0:13335 0:15133 0:15169 0:16509 0:20940 0:22822 0:36040 micemn-lg> ________________________________ From: MICE Discuss <MICE-DISCUSS(a)LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET> on behalf of David Farmer <farmer(a)UMN.EDU> Sent: Friday, January 5, 2018 12:13 PM To: MICE-DISCUSS(a)LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET Subject: [MICE-DISCUSS] MICE Looking Glass router The MICE Looking Glass router doesn't seem to be supporting 4-byte ASNs. Could someone upgrade the code please. Thanks. -- =============================================== David Farmer Email:farmer@umn.edu<mailto:Email%3Afarmer@umn.edu> Networking & Telecommunication Services Office of Information Technology University of Minnesota 2218 University Ave SE Phone: 612-626-0815 Minneapolis, MN 55414-3029 Cell: 612-812-9952 =============================================== ________________________________ To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1

Jan. 17, 2018