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Re: LAG use

by Frank Bulk

Sounds like Jay is the only one that has used them on carrier NNIs - can you share a tier 1 or 2 name with me, off-list if you prefer? So far I have HE as the only documented Tier 1/2 carrier that uses them with customers/other providers. Thanks, Frank From: MICE Discuss [mailto:MICE-DISCUSS@LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET] On Behalf Of Jay Hanke Sent: Wednesday, January 25, 2012 1:13 PM To: MICE-DISCUSS(a)LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET Subject: Re: [MICE-DISCUSS] LAG use On Jan 25, 2012 12:54 PM, "Frank Bulk" <fbulk(a)mypremieronline.com<mailto:fbulk@mypremieronline.com>> wrote: Ok, Reid responded, but he's the only one. Anyone else use LAG to connect for Ethernet circuits? Yes, all the time. Works well but nothin' beats a 10G. :) Jay ________________________________ To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1 ######################################################################## To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1

Jan. 25, 2012

Re: LAG use

by Frank Bulk

Sounds like Jay is the only one that has used them on carrier NNIs - can you share a tier 1 or 2 name with me, off-list if you prefer? So far I have HE as the only documented Tier 1/2 carrier that uses them with customers/other providers. Thanks, Frank From: MICE Discuss [mailto:MICE-DISCUSS@LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET] On Behalf Of Jay Hanke Sent: Wednesday, January 25, 2012 1:13 PM To: MICE-DISCUSS(a)LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET Subject: Re: [MICE-DISCUSS] LAG use On Jan 25, 2012 12:54 PM, "Frank Bulk" <fbulk(a)mypremieronline.com<mailto:fbulk@mypremieronline.com>> wrote: Ok, Reid responded, but he's the only one. Anyone else use LAG to connect for Ethernet circuits? Yes, all the time. Works well but nothin' beats a 10G. :) Jay ________________________________ To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1 ######################################################################## To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1

Jan. 25, 2012

Re: LAG use

by Anthony Anderberg

The only thing I can think of is that you'd probably want the members of a LAG group to always have very similar performance characteristics (capacity, latency, ect). That's pretty easy with a dedicated lambda/fiber but may require some thought in shared transport environments - for example you'd want to ensure one member couldn't take a longer path and incur a lot more latency than other members. But that's just traffic engineering... We haven't had any requests for such things, but I certainly wouldn't be scared of doing them. Anthony Anderberg Sr. Systems Analyst 320-234-5239 anthonyanderberg(a)nu-telecom.net NU-Telecom -----Original Message----- From: MICE Discuss [mailto:MICE-DISCUSS@LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET] On Behalf Of Frank Bulk Sent: Wednesday, January 25, 2012 12:54 PM To: MICE-DISCUSS(a)LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET Subject: Re: [MICE-DISCUSS] LAG use Ok, Reid responded, but he's the only one. Anyone else use LAG to connect for Ethernet circuits? Frank -----Original Message----- From: MICE Discuss [mailto:MICE-DISCUSS@LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET] On Behalf Of Frank Bulk Sent: Friday, January 20, 2012 4:44 PM To: MICE-DISCUSS(a)LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET Subject: [MICE-DISCUSS] LAG use I've been working with our state's telco coop to enhance our Ethernet circuit redundancy. (This is not for Internet circuits, but Ethernet circuits like wireless backhaul). The coop doesn't do a lot of LAG today, except for large customers that have purchased many circuits. Since our transport gear has that capability and we have the ports we'd like to do it, too. To help bolster our case, we're looking for examples where tier 1/2 carriers do LAG with their customers. Can anyone on this list share (on or off list) some examples)? Frank ######################################################################## To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1 ######################################################################## To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1 ######################################################################## To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1

Jan. 25, 2012

Re: LAG use

by Reid Fishler

Other than 2 10G's LAGed together, of course! Reid On Wed, Jan 25, 2012 at 2:12 PM, Jay Hanke <jayhanke(a)mankatonetworks.net>wrote: > On Jan 25, 2012 12:54 PM, "Frank Bulk" <fbulk(a)mypremieronline.com> wrote: > >> Ok, Reid responded, but he's the only one. Anyone else use LAG to >> connect for Ethernet circuits? >> > > Yes, all the time. Works well but nothin' beats a 10G. :) > > Jay > > ------------------------------ > > To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: > http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1 > -- Reid Fishler Director Hurricane Electric +1-510-580-4178 ######################################################################## To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1

Jan. 25, 2012

Re: LAG use

by Jay Hanke

On Jan 25, 2012 12:54 PM, "Frank Bulk" <fbulk(a)mypremieronline.com> wrote: > Ok, Reid responded, but he's the only one. Anyone else use LAG to connect > for Ethernet circuits? > Yes, all the time. Works well but nothin' beats a 10G. :) Jay ######################################################################## To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1

Jan. 25, 2012

Re: LAG use

by Mike Horwath

On Wed, Jan 25, 2012 at 01:07:10PM -0600, Eric Crist wrote: > We're not a telco or ISP, but we use LAG internally for switch > trunks, we've found it to work well, generally. we do too. haven't had a customer ask for it over a metro-ethernet connection yet though. -- Mike Horwath ipHouse - Welcome home! drechsau(a)iphouse.net The universe is an island, surrounded by whatever it is that surrounds universes. - Berkeley Fortune ######################################################################## To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1

Jan. 25, 2012

Re: LAG use

by Eric Crist

We're not a telco or ISP, but we use LAG internally for switch trunks, we've found it to work well, generally. --- Eric F Crist System Administrator ClaimLynx, Inc (952) 593-5969 x2301 On Jan 25, 2012, at 12:54:06, Frank Bulk wrote: > Ok, Reid responded, but he's the only one. Anyone else use LAG to connect for Ethernet circuits? > > Frank > > -----Original Message----- > From: MICE Discuss [mailto:MICE-DISCUSS@LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET] On Behalf Of Frank Bulk > Sent: Friday, January 20, 2012 4:44 PM > To: MICE-DISCUSS(a)LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET > Subject: [MICE-DISCUSS] LAG use > > I've been working with our state's telco coop to enhance our Ethernet circuit redundancy. (This is not for Internet circuits, but Ethernet circuits like wireless backhaul). The coop doesn't do a lot of LAG today, except for large customers that have purchased many circuits. Since our transport gear has that capability and we have the ports we'd like to do it, too. To help bolster our case, we're looking for examples where tier 1/2 carriers do LAG with their customers. > > Can anyone on this list share (on or off list) some examples)? > > Frank > > ######################################################################## > > To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: > http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1 > > ######################################################################## > > To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: > http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1 ######################################################################## To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1

Jan. 25, 2012

Re: LAG use

by Frank Bulk

Ok, Reid responded, but he's the only one. Anyone else use LAG to connect for Ethernet circuits? Frank -----Original Message----- From: MICE Discuss [mailto:MICE-DISCUSS@LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET] On Behalf Of Frank Bulk Sent: Friday, January 20, 2012 4:44 PM To: MICE-DISCUSS(a)LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET Subject: [MICE-DISCUSS] LAG use I've been working with our state's telco coop to enhance our Ethernet circuit redundancy. (This is not for Internet circuits, but Ethernet circuits like wireless backhaul). The coop doesn't do a lot of LAG today, except for large customers that have purchased many circuits. Since our transport gear has that capability and we have the ports we'd like to do it, too. To help bolster our case, we're looking for examples where tier 1/2 carriers do LAG with their customers. Can anyone on this list share (on or off list) some examples)? Frank ######################################################################## To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1 ######################################################################## To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1

Jan. 25, 2012

Re: NANOG San Diego

by Steve Howard

I'll be there. Current plan is to arrive Sunday night. My wife is also coming along this time. On 01/23/2012 05:32 PM, Jay Hanke wrote: > Is anyone else going to NANOG in San Diego? > > Jay > > ######################################################################## > > To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: > http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1 > > ######################################################################## To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1

Jan. 24, 2012

Re: NANOG San Diego

by Andrew Hoyos

On Jan 23, 2012, at 5:32 PM, Jay Hanke wrote: > Is anyone else going to NANOG in San Diego? I'll be there - need a break from the cold ;-) There is a few others from the WI contingent too. Flying in with wife+kid on Thursday prior, if anyone wants to do something 'family-orientated' (SD Zoo for sure!) -- Andrew Hoyos hoyosa(a)gmail.com ######################################################################## To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1

Jan. 23, 2012