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Re: SFN MICE Port Moves

by Ryan Malek

Apologies, wrong reply button. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Ryan Malek - Router12 Networks LLC Internet, Phone, and Hosted Services Ph. 641.420.7180 On 3/2/2022 7:43 AM, Ryan Malek wrote: > > Was this the cause of MICE being down last night for me? I knew there > was a maint window, but thought it was just QCIX. Was REALLY hoping I > didn't lock out again already after just doing FW. > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > Ryan Malek - Router12 Networks LLC > Internet, Phone, and Hosted Services > > Ph. 641.420.7180 > On 3/2/2022 6:59 AM, Jay Hanke wrote: >> The following connections have been moved from the old SFN 10G MICE >> remote to the new SFN 100G MICE remote >> >> Omnitel Eth5/2 >> CSTech LAG #1 Eth5/3 >> EIDG LAG #1 Eth5/4 >> Router12 Eth6/2 >> CSTech LAG #2 Eth6/3 >> EIDG LAG #2 Eth6/4 >> >> CSTech Po3 >> EIDG Po4 > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: > http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1 > <http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1> >

March 2, 2022

Re: SFN MICE Port Moves

by Ryan Malek

Was this the cause of MICE being down last night for me? I knew there was a maint window, but thought it was just QCIX. Was REALLY hoping I didn't lock out again already after just doing FW. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Ryan Malek - Router12 Networks LLC Internet, Phone, and Hosted Services Ph. 641.420.7180 On 3/2/2022 6:59 AM, Jay Hanke wrote: > The following connections have been moved from the old SFN 10G MICE > remote to the new SFN 100G MICE remote > > Omnitel Eth5/2 > CSTech LAG #1 Eth5/3 > EIDG LAG #1 Eth5/4 > Router12 Eth6/2 > CSTech LAG #2 Eth6/3 > EIDG LAG #2 Eth6/4 > > CSTech Po3 > EIDG Po4

March 2, 2022

SFN MICE Port Moves

by Jay Hanke

The following connections have been moved from the old SFN 10G MICE remote to the new SFN 100G MICE remote Omnitel Eth5/2 CSTech LAG #1 Eth5/3 EIDG LAG #1 Eth5/4 Router12 Eth6/2 CSTech LAG #2 Eth6/3 EIDG LAG #2 Eth6/4 CSTech Po3 EIDG Po4 -- Jay Hanke, President South Front Networks jayhanke(a)southfront.io Phone 612-204-0000

March 2, 2022

Please welcome Great Plains Network to MICE!

by Jeremy Lumby

Name: Great Plains Network Switch: WiscNet Port: et-0/0/17 (ae8.100) ASN: 11317 IPv4: 206.108.255.187/24 IPv6: 2001:504:27:0:0:2C35::1/64 Peering Contact: peering(a)greatplains.net Route Servers: Yes BFD: Yes Welcome Aboard! Jeremy Lumby Minnesota VoIP 9217 17th Ave S #216 Bloomington, MN 55425 Main: 612-355-7740 Direct: 612-392-6814 Fax: 952-873-7425 jlumby(a)mnvoip.com

March 1, 2022

FCC 22-18A1 Secure Internet Routing Notice of Inquiry

by Richard Laager

The FCC is looking into BGP security. In general, I'm certainly for BGP security, but I haven't seriously analyzed the questions in this Notice of Inquiry. I'm not sure whether this is something MICE would want to comment on or not. Is anyone else looking into this? I've made an inquiry with MTA, since I'm on the CyberSecurity committee there. -- Richard

March 1, 2022

Re: [OT] Lumen TDM Issues

by Bahls, Dean

Heard there is a Zayo issue somewhere, but not sure where yet. I am seeking answers. On Sun, Feb 27, 2022 at 4:41 PM Richard Laager <rlaager(a)wiktel.com> wrote: > Since this is the unofficial Minnesota outages list... > > We (Wiktel) cannot reach certain things (e.g. Verizon cell phones) > through the Lumen access tandem in Grand Forks. Another nearby LEC has > confirmed the same. > > We also have an SS7 DS1 down to Inteliquent (as formerly INS). > > Lumen is "already working tickets related to multiple DS1’s, DS3 down in > North Dakota". > > -- > Richard > -- *Dean Bahls* Network Operations Manager | Fiber Minnesota 14 Main St SW | P.O. Box J | Menahga, MN 56464 218.564.1321 (Direct) | 218.564.3000 (Main Office) dean.bahls(a)fiberminnesota.com <dean.bahls(a)cooperative-networks.com>

Feb. 28, 2022

[OT] Lumen TDM Issues

by Richard Laager

Since this is the unofficial Minnesota outages list... We (Wiktel) cannot reach certain things (e.g. Verizon cell phones) through the Lumen access tandem in Grand Forks. Another nearby LEC has confirmed the same. We also have an SS7 DS1 down to Inteliquent (as formerly INS). Lumen is "already working tickets related to multiple DS1’s, DS3 down in North Dakota". -- Richard

Feb. 27, 2022

Re: MICE Bylaws Changes

by Ben Wiechman

Thank you for that explanation. Looks like the replacement question is handled through various mechanisms. Ben Wiechman Director of IP Strategy and Engineering 320.247.3224 | ben.wiechman(a)arvig.com Arvig | 224 East Main Street | Melrose, MN 56352 | arvig.com On Fri, Feb 25, 2022 at 4:06 PM Richard Laager <rlaager(a)wiktel.com> wrote: > On 2/25/22 00:53, Frank Bulk wrote: > > In section 2.17(c) there’s this sentence: “If the governor is not > reinstated by affirmative vote, the position shall be filled by a vote of > the Members.” I assume that those two actions (“vote to not reinstate” and > “vote to fill the vacant position”) don’t have to happen at the same > meeting/time? > > My impression is that they would happen at the same time. Even if not in > theory, then still in practice. > > > On 2/25/22 10:44, Ben Wiechman wrote: > > Is there a specific timeline specified for filling a vacant Board > position? > > TL;DR: The minimum would be the board fills it immediately. The maximum > would be the members fill it at the next regular (fall) meeting. > > > There are a few ways this can play out. Let's say I'm the governor being > removed, for the sake of the example. > > 1. A majority of the other governors (Anthony and Reid) vote to remove me. > Since we have a 3 person board, this requires both of them to be a majority > of the remaining 2. > > 2. They may or may not replace me at that point (e.g. by someone named > "Bob" for the example), using their power under the existing 2.4, which > reads (emphasis added): > > "*Vacancies on the Board of Governors resulting from the* death, > resignation, *removal*, or disqualification *of a governor may be filled > by the affirmative vote of a majority of the remaining governors*, even > though less than a quorum." > > 3. They give me notice that they have removed me. > > 4. I may (if the removal was for one of the stated reasons for which > appeal is allowed), give notice that I want the members to vote to retain > me. If I do, the the board then calls a special meeting for this purpose. > > Note that even if I don't request a retention vote, the board could > (whether or not they temporarily filled the seat), call a special meeting > for the members to elect a replacement. > > > 5A. There is a special meeting. > > If we are having a retention vote and the members voted to retain me: > > If the board replaced me with "Bob", then the other part of 2.4 comes into > play (emphasis added): "*Each person elected to fill a vacancy shall hold > office until a qualified successor is elected by the members* at the next > regular meeting or *at any special meeting duly called for that purpose.*" > > In this scenario, I am the the qualified successor to "Bob" elected by the > members at a special meeting called for that purpose. Bob loses his > temporary seat and I'm back in. > > Otherwise (the retention vote failed or wasn't requested): > > If the board replaced me already, then the members would presumably vote > to elect the replacement ("Bob"). But other people could run against that > person; maybe "Joe" runs against "Bob". So the second vote is between e.g. > those two. > > Whoever is chosen is then the qualified successor elected by the members > at a special meeting called for that purpose. > > > 5B. If I don't request retention and the board does not call a special > meeting anyway... > > If the board replaced me with "Bob", that seat is explicitly up for > election at the next annual (fall) meeting. Again, existing 2.4 (emphasis > added), "Each person elected to fill a vacancy shall hold office until a > qualified successor is elected by the members* at the next regular > meeting*". > > If the board left the seat open, I think it's pretty clearly implied that > the seat would be up for election at the next regular meeting. Electing > governors is literally the reason for the regular meetings. Even if you > read section 1.3's piece about elections to *not* cover vacancies, note > that the members "may transact any other business; provided [...condition > that doesn't apply here...]". So the members have the power to elect a > replacement. > > > -- > Richard > > > ------------------------------ > > To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: > http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1 >

Feb. 25, 2022

Re: MICE Bylaws Changes

by Richard Laager

On 2/25/22 00:53, Frank Bulk wrote: > In section 2.17(c) there’s this sentence: “If the governor is not > reinstated by affirmative vote, the position shall be filled by a vote > of the Members.” I assume that those two actions (“vote to not > reinstate” and “vote to fill the vacant position”) don’t have to > happen at the same meeting/time? My impression is that they would happen at the same time. Even if not in theory, then still in practice. On 2/25/22 10:44, Ben Wiechman wrote: > Is there a specific timeline specified for filling a vacant Board > position? TL;DR: The minimum would be the board fills it immediately. The maximum would be the members fill it at the next regular (fall) meeting. There are a few ways this can play out. Let's say I'm the governor being removed, for the sake of the example. 1. A majority of the other governors (Anthony and Reid) vote to remove me. Since we have a 3 person board, this requires both of them to be a majority of the remaining 2. 2. They may or may not replace me at that point (e.g. by someone named "Bob" for the example), using their power under the existing 2.4, which reads (emphasis added): "*Vacancies on the Board of Governors resulting from the* death, resignation, *removal*, or disqualification *of a governor may be filled by the affirmative vote of a majority of the remaining governors*, even though less than a quorum." 3. They give me notice that they have removed me. 4. I may (if the removal was for one of the stated reasons for which appeal is allowed), give notice that I want the members to vote to retain me. If I do, the the board then calls a special meeting for this purpose. Note that even if I don't request a retention vote, the board could (whether or not they temporarily filled the seat), call a special meeting for the members to elect a replacement. 5A. There is a special meeting. If we are having a retention vote and the members voted to retain me: If the board replaced me with "Bob", then the other part of 2.4 comes into play (emphasis added): "*Each person elected to fill a vacancy shall hold office until a qualified successor is elected by the members* at the next regular meeting or *at any special meeting duly called for that purpose.*" In this scenario, I am the the qualified successor to "Bob" elected by the members at a special meeting called for that purpose. Bob loses his temporary seat and I'm back in. Otherwise (the retention vote failed or wasn't requested): If the board replaced me already, then the members would presumably vote to elect the replacement ("Bob"). But other people could run against that person; maybe "Joe" runs against "Bob". So the second vote is between e.g. those two. Whoever is chosen is then the qualified successor elected by the members at a special meeting called for that purpose. 5B. If I don't request retention and the board does not call a special meeting anyway... If the board replaced me with "Bob", that seat is explicitly up for election at the next annual (fall) meeting. Again, existing 2.4 (emphasis added), "Each person elected to fill a vacancy shall hold office until a qualified successor is elected by the members*at the next regular meeting*". If the board left the seat open, I think it's pretty clearly implied that the seat would be up for election at the next regular meeting. Electing governors is literally the reason for the regular meetings. Even if you read section 1.3's piece about elections to /not/ cover vacancies, note that the members "may transact any other business; provided [...condition that doesn't apply here...]". So the members have the power to elect a replacement. -- Richard

Feb. 25, 2022

MICE UG 40

by Richard Laager

Note: Change of date and moving to online. MICE UG 40 will be March 11 at 3:00 PM, held online. This will be the usual business meeting plus voting on bylaws changes. On March 16, the previously scheduled date, those of us at MTA (and anyone else interested, of course) will get together for a MICE social. Details TBD. -- Richard

Feb. 25, 2022