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Three BGP peers

by Frank Bulk

Anyone else seeing both Yahoo peers and one Google peer down since early am? I didn't see any log messages about exceeding prefix counts or the like. Frank SiouxCity-Fibernet-Arista(s2)#sh ip bgp sum | ex Estab BGP summary information for VRF default Router identifier 207.32.15.21, local AS number 18883 Neighbor Status Codes: m - Under maintenance Neighbor V AS MsgRcvd MsgSent InQ OutQ Up/Down State PfxRcd PfxAcc 206.108.255.58 4 10310 2035987 4886675 0 0 12:23:38 Active 206.108.255.59 4 10310 2029469 4886360 0 0 12:23:41 Active 206.108.255.167 4 15169 2050148 4888984 0 0 12:23:40 Active SiouxCity-Fibernet-Arista(s2)#sh ipv6 bgp sum | ex Estab BGP summary information for VRF default Router identifier 207.32.15.21, local AS number 18883 Neighbor Status Codes: m - Under maintenance Neighbor V AS MsgRcvd MsgSent InQ OutQ Up/Down State PfxRcd PfxAcc 2001:504:27::2846:0:1 4 10310 2209610 1893247 0 0 12:23:40 Active 2001:504:27::2846:0:2 4 10310 2202613 1892818 0 0 12:23:47 Active 2001:504:27::3b41:0:2 4 15169 2043589 1894022 0 0 12:23:48 Active SiouxCity-Fibernet-Arista(s2)#

June 22, 2023

Re: Route Server 1 - BFD not working

by Mike Horwath

On Thu, Jun 22, 2023 at 02:40:14PM -0500, Jonathan Stewart wrote: > Disable the BGP (and thus also BFD) session, waited a minute, and > re-enabled BGP & BFD. > > Came back as normal and looks fine now on both IPv4 and IPv6. > > Thanks for the assistance Richard. > > Though it's still not clear what the real cause of the problem was. Bugs from the router vs the route-server perhaps? I hate magic like this. Magic sucks -- Mike Horwath, reachable via drechsau(a)Geeks.ORG

June 22, 2023

Re: Route Server 1 - BFD not working

by Jonathan Stewart

On Wed, 2023-06-21 6:54 p.m., Richard Laager wrote: > Before I try that, have you tried flapping your BGP session? I had a chance to try this today. Disable the BGP (and thus also BFD) session, waited a minute, and re-enabled BGP & BFD. Came back as normal and looks fine now on both IPv4 and IPv6. Thanks for the assistance Richard. Though it's still not clear what the real cause of the problem was. Curious. Cheers, Jonathan -- Jonathan Stewart Network Engineer LES.NET - AS18451 Desk: 1-204-666-6191 Mobile: 1-204-990-2120 130 Portage Avenue E Winnipeg, MB R3C 0A1 CANADA

June 22, 2023

Re: Route Server 1 - BFD not working

by Richard Laager

On 2023-06-22 08:39, Michael Hare wrote: > This March I reported to peering@ a similar problem to RR1 If this was happening in March, the "good" news is that this is not due to the new route servers (different OS, BIRD upgrade, new config, etc.). I looked at the BIRD release notes, and I'm not seeing anything about BFD specifically. There are plenty of mentions of generic bug fixes. I suppose I should take this to the BIRD mailing list. -- Richard

June 22, 2023

Re: Route Server 1 - BFD not working

by Michael Hare

Jonathan, This March I reported to peering@ a similar problem to RR1; I’m not sure when my problem started, I only noticed it while doing CLI jockey work on my router. I have had success removing and adding the BFD session on my Juniper. Over the last three months I saw one recurrence to RR1 but it was over v4 and v6; same solution for me. I didn’t spend time debugging JunOS further [myself or with jtac]. My side is a Juniper MX running 20.4. I have since added BFD session monitoring so I'm not reliant on syslogs. -Michael From: MICE Discuss <MICE-DISCUSS(a)LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET> On Behalf Of Richard Laager Sent: Wednesday, June 21, 2023 6:54 PM To: MICE-DISCUSS(a)LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET Subject: Re: [MICE-DISCUSS] Route Server 1 - BFD not working On 2023-06-21 14:06, Jonathan Stewart wrote: On our BGP session to Route Server 1 (206.108.225.1 & 2001:504:27::d1af:0:1) i have lost the BFD session. My Juniper router shows the state as "Down". Is this intentional? An accident of the upgrades? Is my configuration wrong? Anyone else noticing this? My configuration is an interval of 1000 ms, multiplier 3. MICE is configured as 500 * 3 tcpdump shows your BFD control packets coming in, but bird is not responding. I'm seeing the same issue with 206.108.255.137 (Inteliquent AS 40160) on IPv4 and 2001:504:27:0:0:B7F8::1 (Compudyne, AS47096) on IPv6. Everyone else is consistent between the two route servers. This thread from 2020 talks about someone having BFD issues after a reboot, which they fixed by restarting BFD in BIRD. That might be something to try if we run out of other ideas: https://www.mail-archive.com/bird-users@network.cz/msg05382.html Before I try that, have you tried flapping your BGP session? -- Richard ________________________________ To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1

June 22, 2023

Re: Route Server 1 - BFD not working

by Richard Laager

On 2023-06-21 14:06, Jonathan Stewart wrote: > On our BGP session to Route Server 1 (206.108.225.1 & > 2001:504:27::d1af:0:1) i have lost the BFD session. > > My Juniper router shows the state as "Down". > > Is this intentional? An accident of the upgrades? Is my configuration > wrong? Anyone else noticing this? > My configuration is an interval of 1000 ms, multiplier 3. MICE is configured as 500 * 3 tcpdump shows your BFD control packets coming in, but bird is not responding. I'm seeing the same issue with 206.108.255.137 (Inteliquent AS 40160) on IPv4 and 2001:504:27:0:0:B7F8::1 (Compudyne, AS47096) on IPv6. Everyone else is consistent between the two route servers. This thread from 2020 talks about someone having BFD issues after a reboot, which they fixed by restarting BFD in BIRD. That might be something to try if we run out of other ideas: https://www.mail-archive.com/bird-users@network.cz/msg05382.html Before I try that, have you tried flapping your BGP session? -- Richard

June 21, 2023

Route Server 1 - BFD not working

by Jonathan Stewart

Hi MICE, We are AS18451. On our BGP session to Route Server 1 (206.108.225.1 & 2001:504:27::d1af:0:1) i have lost the BFD session. My Juniper router shows the state as "Down". Is this intentional? An accident of the upgrades? Is my configuration wrong? Anyone else noticing this? My configuration is an interval of 1000 ms, multiplier 3. RS 2 is configured the same and BFD is up. Thanks, Jonathan -- Jonathan Stewart Network Engineer LES.NET - AS18451 Desk: 1-204-666-6191 Mobile: 1-204-990-2120 130 Portage Avenue E Winnipeg, MB R3C 0A1 CANADA

June 21, 2023

Re: FW: Thursday Night Football from Amazon Prime Video - Network Questionnaire

by Yan Berthier

Hi all, Qwilt here. Thanks Frank! Indeed, we are a MICE member. With or without a cache with us, you'll see some traffic from AS20253, so it's good idea to peer with us either way: while we're on the Route Server, we prefer setting up bilats. Hit me up off list with any question you may have, or to set up a BGP session with us. Thanks, - y On Tue, Jun 13, 2023 at 9:27 PM, Frank Bulk <fbulk(a)mypremieronline.com> wrote: > I’m under NDA, but the February webinar was not restricted to their > existing partners. In that webinar they indicated additional content was > coming at the end of Q1. The NCTC sent a letter a few weeks ago that those > who are part of NCTC’s program should have received. > > > > Qwilt is a MICE member and I look forward to receiving more content. =) > > > > Frank > > > > *From:* MICE Discuss <MICE-DISCUSS(a)LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET> * On Behalf Of *Ben > Wiechman > *Sent:* Tuesday, June 13, 2023 8:35 AM > *To:* MICE-DISCUSS(a)LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET > *Subject:* Re: [MICE-DISCUSS] FW: Thursday Night Football from Amazon > Prime Video - Network Questionnaire > > > > Amazon was only serving Thursday Night Football out of the caches. Your > traffic is consistent with the football season. Looks like a little bump > there in April, which is curious. > > > > Our traffic is similar. You can see the NFL season up to Jan, then > relatively little. It is possible that one CDN was launched in April. I > should ask. Looks like there has been some amount of activity since around > 4/1. > > > > Qwilt had a lot of promises about new content moving through the cache > beginning in 1H2023 here. NCTC had a good joint webinar on Feb 7th, for > anyone that is a member. I can't find a link back to it. They presented a > summary of the performance from the 2022 NFL season, as well as plans for > 2023. They didn't state it explicitly, but it didn't seem like they were > getting any traction in hosting any content other than TNF from Amazon. > > > > *Ben Wiechman* > > Director of Network Strategy and Engineering > > 320.247.3224 | ben.wiechman(a)arvig.com > > Arvig | 224 East Main Street | Melrose, MN 56352 | arvig.com > <https://link.edgepilot.com/s/7f2b178f/1ZuwJz42b0_NlW9cx7EkKA?u=http://arvig…> > > > > > > > > On Tue, Jun 13, 2023 at 7:21 AM Larry Larsen < > 000000186bf54e79-dmarc-request(a)lists.iphouse.net> wrote: > > I have not seen much usage. Here is my peak bandwidth usage on Qwilt > for that month. All amounts are in Gbps. > > > > Oct-22 > > Nov-22 > > Dec-22 > > Jan-23 > > Feb-23 > > Mar-23 > > Apr-23 > > May-23 > > Amazon1 > > 4.45 > > 4.01 > > 4.06 > > 0.101 > > 0.979 > > 0.995 > > 0.07 > > 0.03 > > Amazon2 > > 3.58 > > 1.44 > > 1.93 > > 0.029 > > 0.035 > > 0.267 > > 1.67 > > 0.641 > > > > As you can see, I had some good usage from October – December but after > that not much. April had a little usage. > > > > Thanks! > > > > Larry L. > > > > *From:* MICE Discuss <MICE-DISCUSS(a)LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET> *On Behalf Of *Ben > Wiechman > *Sent:* Tuesday, June 13, 2023 7:12 AM > *To:* MICE-DISCUSS(a)LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET > *Subject:* Re: [MICE-DISCUSS] FW: Thursday Night Football from Amazon > Prime Video - Network Questionnaire > > > > Some people who received this message don't often get email from > 0000001a026a3d65-dmarc-request(a)lists.iphouse.net. Learn why this is > important > <https://link.edgepilot.com/s/0f4a9629/Roa4CaCjskyieHEVX7BgDA?u=https://aka.…> > > WARNING!! This message originated from an *External Source*. Please use > proper judgment and caution when opening attachments, clicking links, or > responding to this email. > > Have you seen them serve any other content from your cache yet. They keep > claiming more content is coming. > > > Ben Wiechman > Director of IP Strategy and Engineering > Direct: 320.256.0184 > Cell: 320.247.3224 > ben.wiechman(a)arvig.com > 150 Second Street SW | Perham, MN 56573 | arvig.com > <https://link.edgepilot.com/s/7f2b178f/1ZuwJz42b0_NlW9cx7EkKA?u=http://arvig…> > > > > On Mon, Jun 12, 2023, 16:08 Justin Krejci <JKrejci(a)usinternet.com> wrote: > > I stumbled across this thread again while looking for something else and > thought I'd add a small update that we did get our Qwilt server deployed > on-net for us a while back and it did indeed serve a relatively large burst > of traffic volume during the live streaming episodes of Thursday Night > Football. > > > > > ------------------------------ > > *From:* MICE Discuss <MICE-DISCUSS(a)LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET> on behalf of Justin > Krejci <JKrejci(a)USINTERNET.COM> > *Sent:* Wednesday, February 16, 2022 1:08 PM > *To:* MICE-DISCUSS(a)LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET > *Subject:* Re: [MICE-DISCUSS] FW: Thursday Night Football from Amazon > Prime Video - Network Questionnaire > > > > I believe it is just simpler for everyone involved when you are an NCTC > member but I don't think it is a requirement necessarily. As Frank > suggests, if you're interested in their services you should just reach out > to them directly and they can tell you what they can and will do for you > given your network and usage numbers. In my experience so far Qwilt are > decent folks: I am still working through their process to get a deployment > for our network and they have been competent and reasonable to work with so > far. > > > > To contrast the email subject, because they are in the open caching > market, they do not carry only Amazon content. > > > ------------------------------ > > *From:* MICE Discuss <MICE-DISCUSS(a)LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET> on behalf of Frank > Bulk <fbulk(a)MYPREMIERONLINE.COM> > *Sent:* Wednesday, February 16, 2022 12:09 PM > *To:* MICE-DISCUSS(a)LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET > *Subject:* Re: [MICE-DISCUSS] FW: Thursday Night Football from Amazon > Prime Video - Network Questionnaire > > > > I don’t know if it’s exclusive to the NCTC or not – you could reach out to > Qwilt and just ask them what options they have for you. > > > > Frank > > > > *From:* MICE Discuss <MICE-DISCUSS(a)LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET> *On Behalf Of *Ryan > Malek > *Sent:* Wednesday, February 16, 2022 11:28 AM > *To:* MICE-DISCUSS(a)LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET > *Subject:* Re: [MICE-DISCUSS] FW: Thursday Night Football from Amazon > Prime Video - Network Questionnaire > > > > Is this offering going to be available to non NCTC members at a cost? (Is > this maybe part of Qwilts default offering? ) > > TLDR: Is the Qwilt platform worth it outside of being an NCTC Member? :) > > > ------------------------------ > > Ryan Malek - Router12 Networks LLC > Internet, Phone, and Hosted Services > > Ph. 641.420.7180 > > On 2/16/2022 11:08 AM, Frank Bulk wrote: > > If you’re an NCTC member there’s an opportunity to avoid transit costs and > IX bandwidth concerns by serving the traffic from your own network using an > “open” CDN: https://link.edgepilot.com/s/188fed83/ > kSt--kULDUiOMeuW1EQy_Q?u=https://www.qwilt.com/ > nctc-and-qwilt-launch-joint-initiative-to-upgrade-nctc-member-networks-with-next-generation-content-delivery-technology-and-services/ > <https://link.edgepilot.com/s/9d57f0b0/LWiUplIDzEi9j-EIioO0LA?u=https://url-…> > > There’s no cost to NCTC members (just your own rack space, power, cooling, > ports, and time). > > > > Frank > > > > *From:* MICE Discuss <MICE-DISCUSS(a)LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET> > <MICE-DISCUSS(a)LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET> *On Behalf Of *Justin Krejci > *Sent:* Tuesday, January 18, 2022 10:56 AM > *To:* MICE-DISCUSS(a)LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET > *Subject:* Re: [MICE-DISCUSS] FW: Thursday Night Football from Amazon > Prime Video - Network Questionnaire > > > > Definitely legit and definitely worth pursuing additional connectivity > with Amazon and CDNs that Amazon will use to distribute their NFL > streaming content. > > > > We have peering active with Amazon at four IX locations (including MICE) > and are trying to get some PNIs with them now too. https://link.edgepilot. > com/s/d1ff7d9b/nHsaPn7VEkOM1Y2TlRuquw?u=https://aws.amazon.com/peering/ > locations/ This page lists Cologix Minneapolis as a site where > interconnection can happen. If you have a lot of eyeballs on your network, > you should definitely pursue adding/augmenting connectivity to Amazon. > > > > > > > ------------------------------ > > *From:* MICE Discuss <MICE-DISCUSS(a)LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET> on behalf of Steve > Savoy <stevesavoy(a)WCTATEL.COM> > *Sent:* Tuesday, January 18, 2022 8:55 AM > *To:* MICE-DISCUSS(a)LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET > *Subject:* Re: [MICE-DISCUSS] FW: Thursday Night Football from Amazon > Prime Video - Network Questionnaire > > > > Thanks Jeremy! > > I'll give it another try. > > Steve > > -----Original Message----- > From: MICE Discuss <MICE-DISCUSS(a)LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET> On Behalf Of Jeremy > Lumby > Sent: Tuesday, January 18, 2022 8:49 AM > To: MICE-DISCUSS(a)LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET > Subject: Re: [MICE-DISCUSS] FW: Thursday Night Football from Amazon Prime > Video - Network Questionnaire > > Steve, > > Amazon can be notoriously difficult to get to respond, and when > they finally do it can often take a couple months. They have recently > moved to regional peering addresses, and it is worth sending the request to > peering-amer(a)amazon.com if you have not already. > > > Jeremy Lumby > Minnesota VoIP > 9217 17th Ave S #216 > Bloomington, MN 55425 > M: 612-355-7740 > D: 612-392-6814 > F: 952-873-7425 > jlumby(a)mnvoip.com > > > > From: MICE Discuss [mailto:MICE-DISCUSS@LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET > <MICE-DISCUSS(a)LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET>] On Behalf Of Steve Savoy > Sent: Tuesday, January 18, 2022 8:01 AM > To: MICE-DISCUSS(a)LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET > Subject: Re: [MICE-DISCUSS] FW: Thursday Night Football from Amazon Prime > Video - Network Questionnaire > > I’m just jealous that you are able to peer with Amazon. > > Been trying for 2 years now and nothing but ‘crickets’………… [image: 😉] > > Steve > > From: MICE Discuss <MICE-DISCUSS(a)LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET> On Behalf Of Dean > Bahls > Sent: Tuesday, January 18, 2022 6:28 AM > To: MICE-DISCUSS(a)LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET > Subject: Re: [MICE-DISCUSS] FW: Thursday Night Football from Amazon Prime > Video - Network Questionnaire > > While I haven’t gotten that specific email from them, I’ve gotten several > Telegeography emails since 2012. They are referenced by Light Reading > Daily quite a bit. They *seem* to be a legit research firm contracted by > multiple companies. > > The Amazon / TNF partnership is a real deal….and MICE needs to be prepared > for a potential uptick in traffic on Thursdays. > > Dean > > > From: MICE Discuss <MICE-DISCUSS(a)LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET> On Behalf Of > AnthonyAnderberg(a)NUVERA.NET > Sent: Tuesday, January 18, 2022 1:27 AM > To: MICE-DISCUSS(a)LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET > Subject: [MICE-DISCUSS] FW: Thursday Night Football from Amazon Prime > Video - Network Questionnaire > > Has anyone else gotten an email like this? > > On the surface it seems legit, and I always like the opportunity to talk > about MICE, but I’m not sure how I feel about sharing such info... > > Thanks in advance, > Anthony > > > On Thu, Dec 16, 2021 at 1:29 PM Nataliya Coll <ncoll(a)telegeography.com> > wrote: > Hi David and Anthony, > > I am a telecoms analyst with TeleGeography in Washington, DC. We have been > contracted by Amazon Prime Video (APV) to survey ISPs across the country in > preparation for Prime Video’s exclusive presentation of NFL Thursday > Night Football (TNF) starting with the 2022 NFL season. > The attached letter from Amazon Prime Video provides more detail about > their network planning initiative. > > To help avoid congestion on your network during upcoming games, Amazon is > asking us to query you so that they may better understand your network > point(s) of contact, service coverage area, CDN provider(s), IP Transit > provider(s), etc. > > Are you the correct contact person within your network operations team to > respond to these questions? 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June 16, 2023

Re: RPKI ROAs

by Jay Hanke

>> I think we should hold off publishing one just yet >> This is pretty common among our similar sized IXes in North America. SiX, TorIX, FL-IX, CIX-ATL are all announcing RPKI with ASN 0.

June 14, 2023

Re: RPKI ROAs

by David Farmer

On Wed, Jun 14, 2023 at 15:01 Richard Laager <rlaager(a)wiktel.com> wrote: > On 2023-06-14 02:46, David Farmer wrote: > > I think we should hold off publishing one just yet > > Do you have a particular reason for thinking we should hold off? Is there > something you're worried about breaking? > > While I take your point that not everyone is doing it, that APNIC blog > post definitely shows that some places *are* doing it. > I think I’m just being cautious. I’d feel much better with a published BCP recommending how IXes should publish ROAs or at least a discussion of the pro and cons. I’ll note a conflict between what the APNIC Blog and RFC 6483 say about the proper maxlength for an AS 0 ROA. It’s nagging little details like that, that make me want to be cautious. I think if you publish a ROA with the assigned ASN then you want the maxlength to be the assigned length, but for an AS 0 ROA you want a maxlength of 32 for IPv4 and 128 for IPv6 like RFC 6483 says. However, the idea that some IXes publish both an AS 0 and one for the assigned ASN, makes me wonder, and want to be even more curious. Thanks -- =============================================== David Farmer Email:farmer@umn.edu Networking & Telecommunication Services Office of Information Technology University of Minnesota 2218 University Ave SE Phone: 612-626-0815 Minneapolis, MN 55414-3029 Cell: 612-812-9952 ===============================================

June 14, 2023

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