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Re: Amazon TNF Bitrate/Stream

by Frank Bulk

Sorry, I don’t know that level of detail. Frank From: MICE Discuss <MICE-DISCUSS(a)LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET> On Behalf Of Ben Wiechman Sent: Wednesday, November 1, 2023 7:57 AM To: MICE-DISCUSS(a)LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET Subject: Re: [MICE-DISCUSS] Amazon TNF Bitrate/Stream What are your seeing during the games? What is 10+? 10.x or 11-12-13 Mbps? Ben Wiechman Director of IP Strategy and Engineering Direct: 320.256.0184 Cell: 320.247.3224 ben.wiechman(a)arvig.com<mailto:ben.wiechman@arvig.com> 150 Second Street SW | Perham, MN 56573 | arvig.com<https://link.edgepilot.com/s/d005f9f3/ghmcPBq_REuBMPsL7tmn6Q?u=http://arvig…> On Wed, Nov 1, 2023, 07:43 Frank Bulk <fbulk(a)mypremieronline.com<mailto:fbulk@mypremieronline.com>> wrote: I interacted with Qwilt support a few weeks ago about the drops in bandwidth during the game it looks like it’s 10+ Mbps during the game: We've also shared this pattern with Amazon engineers, and they clarified that there is indeed a reduction in Average Bitrate during ad breaks. It drops from around 10+ Mbps during the game to about 4 Mbps during advertisements. The drop in bandwidth usage in the graphs appeared to be during the ad breaks. Frank From: MICE Discuss <MICE-DISCUSS(a)LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET<mailto:MICE-DISCUSS@LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET>> On Behalf Of Ben Wiechman Sent: Tuesday, October 31, 2023 8:17 AM To: MICE-DISCUSS(a)LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET<mailto:MICE-DISCUSS@LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET> Subject: [MICE-DISCUSS] Amazon TNF Bitrate/Stream Has anyone spent any time studying the bitrate per stream this year? What are you seeing on your networks? Our Qwilt cache is reporting 25Mbps/stream average, which doesn't seem realistic by other measures. Ben Wiechman Director of Network Strategy and Engineering 320.247.3224 | ben.wiechman(a)arvig.com<mailto:ben.wiechman@arvig.com> Arvig | 224 East Main Street | Melrose, MN 56352 | arvig.com<https://link.edgepilot.com/s/a6e36c05/7cnAjaNFCkWFaaYAN3-hMQ?u=http://arvig…> ________________________________ To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: https://link.edgepilot.com/s/55f4a9ea/CfJTVwWpSEaZLR--NOmK0Q?u=http://lists… Links contained in this email have been replaced. If you click on a link in the email above, the link will be analyzed for known threats. If a known threat is found, you will not be able to proceed to the destination. If suspicious content is detected, you will see a warning. ________________________________ To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: https://link.edgepilot.com/s/75c65b9c/FIO9CegqWkqd6H1TmU4_Wg?u=http://lists… ________________________________ To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: https://link.edgepilot.com/s/75c65b9c/FIO9CegqWkqd6H1TmU4_Wg?u=http://lists… Links contained in this email have been replaced. If you click on a link in the email above, the link will be analyzed for known threats. If a known threat is found, you will not be able to proceed to the destination. If suspicious content is detected, you will see a warning.

Nov. 1, 2023

Re: Amazon TNF Bitrate/Stream

by Ben Wiechman

What are your seeing during the games? What is 10+? 10.x or 11-12-13 Mbps? Ben Wiechman Director of IP Strategy and Engineering Direct: 320.256.0184 Cell: 320.247.3224 ben.wiechman(a)arvig.com 150 Second Street SW | Perham, MN 56573 | arvig.com On Wed, Nov 1, 2023, 07:43 Frank Bulk <fbulk(a)mypremieronline.com> wrote: > I interacted with Qwilt support a few weeks ago about the drops in > bandwidth during the game it looks like it’s 10+ Mbps during the game: > > > > *We've also shared this pattern with Amazon engineers, and they clarified > that there is indeed a reduction in Average Bitrate during ad breaks. It > drops from around 10+ Mbps during the game to about 4 Mbps during > advertisements. The drop in bandwidth usage in the graphs appeared to be > during the ad breaks.* > > > > Frank > > > > *From:* MICE Discuss <MICE-DISCUSS(a)LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET> * On Behalf Of *Ben > Wiechman > *Sent:* Tuesday, October 31, 2023 8:17 AM > *To:* MICE-DISCUSS(a)LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET > *Subject:* [MICE-DISCUSS] Amazon TNF Bitrate/Stream > > > > Has anyone spent any time studying the bitrate per stream this year? What > are you seeing on your networks? > > > > Our Qwilt cache is reporting 25Mbps/stream average, which doesn't seem > realistic by other measures. > > > > *Ben Wiechman* > > Director of Network Strategy and Engineering > > 320.247.3224 | ben.wiechman(a)arvig.com > > Arvig | 224 East Main Street | Melrose, MN 56352 | arvig.com > <https://link.edgepilot.com/s/a6e36c05/7cnAjaNFCkWFaaYAN3-hMQ?u=http://arvig…> > > > > > ------------------------------ > > To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: > > https://link.edgepilot.com/s/55f4a9ea/CfJTVwWpSEaZLR--NOmK0Q?u=http://lists… > > > > Links contained in this email have been replaced. If you click on a link > in the email above, the link will be analyzed for known threats. If a known > threat is found, you will not be able to proceed to the destination. If > suspicious content is detected, you will see a warning. > > ------------------------------ > > To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: > http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1 >

Nov. 1, 2023

Re: Amazon TNF Bitrate/Stream

by Frank Bulk

I interacted with Qwilt support a few weeks ago about the drops in bandwidth during the game it looks like it’s 10+ Mbps during the game: We've also shared this pattern with Amazon engineers, and they clarified that there is indeed a reduction in Average Bitrate during ad breaks. It drops from around 10+ Mbps during the game to about 4 Mbps during advertisements. The drop in bandwidth usage in the graphs appeared to be during the ad breaks. Frank From: MICE Discuss <MICE-DISCUSS(a)LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET> On Behalf Of Ben Wiechman Sent: Tuesday, October 31, 2023 8:17 AM To: MICE-DISCUSS(a)LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET Subject: [MICE-DISCUSS] Amazon TNF Bitrate/Stream Has anyone spent any time studying the bitrate per stream this year? What are you seeing on your networks? Our Qwilt cache is reporting 25Mbps/stream average, which doesn't seem realistic by other measures. Ben Wiechman Director of Network Strategy and Engineering 320.247.3224 | ben.wiechman(a)arvig.com<mailto:ben.wiechman@arvig.com> Arvig | 224 East Main Street | Melrose, MN 56352 | arvig.com<https://link.edgepilot.com/s/a6e36c05/7cnAjaNFCkWFaaYAN3-hMQ?u=http://arvig…> ________________________________ To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: https://link.edgepilot.com/s/55f4a9ea/CfJTVwWpSEaZLR--NOmK0Q?u=http://lists… Links contained in this email have been replaced. If you click on a link in the email above, the link will be analyzed for known threats. If a known threat is found, you will not be able to proceed to the destination. If suspicious content is detected, you will see a warning.

Nov. 1, 2023

Amazon TNF Bitrate/Stream

by Ben Wiechman

Has anyone spent any time studying the bitrate per stream this year? What are you seeing on your networks? Our Qwilt cache is reporting 25Mbps/stream average, which doesn't seem realistic by other measures. Ben Wiechman Director of Network Strategy and Engineering 320.247.3224 | ben.wiechman(a)arvig.com Arvig | 224 East Main Street | Melrose, MN 56352 | arvig.com

Oct. 31, 2023

Please welcome Pudu to MICE!

by Jeremy Lumby

Name: Pudu LLC Switch: NOCIX Ports: E 5/10 ASN: 47689 IPv4: 206.108.255.215/24 IPv6: 2001:504:27:0:0:BA49::1/64 Peering Contact: peering(a)pudu.be Route Servers: YES Welcome Aboard! Jeremy Lumby Minnesota VoIP 9217 17th Ave S #216 Bloomington, MN 55425 Main: 612-355-7740 Direct: 612-392-6814 Fax: 952-873-7425 jlumby(a)mnvoip.com

Oct. 27, 2023

Re: Google to stop advertising to MICE Route Servers

by Jay Hanke

Yes that is correct On Mon, Oct 23, 2023, 10:49 AM Justin Krejci <JKrejci(a)usinternet.com> wrote: > s/15159/15169/ > > > FTFY > > > > > > ------------------------------ > *From:* MICE Discuss <MICE-DISCUSS(a)LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET> on behalf of Jay > Hanke <jayhanke(a)SOUTHFRONT.IO> > *Sent:* Monday, October 23, 2023 9:06 AM > *To:* MICE-DISCUSS(a)LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET > *Subject:* [MICE-DISCUSS] Google to stop advertising to MICE Route Servers > > We have received notice that Google AS15159 will stop sending and > receiving routes from the MICE route servers on November 8th, 2023. > Google has asked us to share the following notice. > > Google will keep current BGP bilateral with individual peers on MICE. > Google invites other networks that rely on Route-Servers to request a > bilateral session. > > Bilateral session request can be done at: > https://isp.google.com/iwantpeering > > Thanks! > > -- > Jay Hanke, President > South Front Networks > jayhanke(a)southfront.io > Phone 507-327-2398 > https://southfront.io/ > > ------------------------------ > > To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: > http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1 >

Oct. 23, 2023

Re: Google to stop advertising to MICE Route Servers

by Justin Krejci

s/15159/15169/ FTFY ________________________________ From: MICE Discuss <MICE-DISCUSS(a)LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET> on behalf of Jay Hanke <jayhanke(a)SOUTHFRONT.IO> Sent: Monday, October 23, 2023 9:06 AM To: MICE-DISCUSS(a)LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET Subject: [MICE-DISCUSS] Google to stop advertising to MICE Route Servers We have received notice that Google AS15159 will stop sending and receiving routes from the MICE route servers on November 8th, 2023. Google has asked us to share the following notice. Google will keep current BGP bilateral with individual peers on MICE. Google invites other networks that rely on Route-Servers to request a bilateral session. Bilateral session request can be done at: https://isp.google.com/iwantpeering Thanks! -- Jay Hanke, President South Front Networks jayhanke(a)southfront.io Phone 507-327-2398 https://southfront.io/

Oct. 23, 2023

Google to stop advertising to MICE Route Servers

by Jay Hanke

We have received notice that Google AS15159 will stop sending and receiving routes from the MICE route servers on November 8th, 2023. Google has asked us to share the following notice. Google will keep current BGP bilateral with individual peers on MICE. Google invites other networks that rely on Route-Servers to request a bilateral session. Bilateral session request can be done at: https://isp.google.com/iwantpeering Thanks! -- Jay Hanke, President South Front Networks jayhanke(a)southfront.io Phone 507-327-2398 https://southfront.io/

Oct. 23, 2023

AS57 (NorthernLights/UofM) Maintenance Complete

by Colin Murphy

University of Minnesota Engineers have completed the software upgrades on the NorthernLights Gigapop routers. Thanks, Colin Murphy Sr. Network Engineer Office of Information Technology University of Minnesota Northern Lights Gigapop Desk: 612-626-0870

Oct. 14, 2023

AS57 (NorthernLights/UofM) Maintenance

by Colin Murphy

University of Minnesota Engineers will be upgrading the software on the NorthernLights Gigapop routers. The expected outage for each router will be approximately 2 hours. BGP sessions will be shutdown prior to the software upgrades. Please let us know if you have any questions. Change window: 10/14/2023 4 AM to 5 PM CDT. Thanks, Colin Murphy Sr. Network Engineer Office of Information Technology University of Minnesota Northern Lights Gigapop Desk: 612-626-0870

Oct. 12, 2023