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Re: IRR Mandatory at MICE / New Route Servers

by August Yang

Thank you for your efforts in making routing more secure for the entire MICE community. Could you please clarify which IRR source will be included for filter generation? We currently rely on RADb instead of ARIN for our IRR records, and it would be helpful to confirm if this will be used with the new route servers. On 2023-05-09 6:19 a.m., Richard Laager wrote: > > [I plan to send this to MICE-ANNOUNCE too, but I want to see if anyone > has corrections.] > > MICE will soon be deploying new route servers which will require IRR > (Internet Routing Registry) records, as is a best practice at IXPs. > > *What* > > * You MUST have an as-set object listing your AS and your downstream > ASes (if any). > o You MUST either list that as-set in PeeringDB or email the > name of your as-set to me (off-list to rlaager(a)wiktel.com please). > * A route/route6 object MUST exist for each prefix you announce to > the route servers (whether originated by you or transited through > you) and it must list an Origin AS that is in your as-set. > > *When* > > * *If you are a transit AS (i.e. have ASes behind you) and don't > have an /as-set/ object, fix this **/now/**.* Without an as-set > object, your downstream ASes announcements will be blocked > (filtered) immediately when the /first/ new route server is cut > in. (Granted, they will still work through the second route server > until it is upgraded.) Figure you have 1-2 weeks at most. > * Enforcement of the route/route6 objects (for both transit and > non-transit ASes) will come later, but not a lot later. So please, > start on this now. > > *Where* > > If you are not sure /where/ to create IRR records, use ARIN (assuming > you are in the ARIN region). > > *How (with ARIN)* > > 1. Login to ARIN Online. (Go to arin.net and click Login in the top > right.) > 2. On the left side, expand "Routing Security" and click "IRR". > 3. Click "as-set" at the top. > 4. Click "Create an Object". > 5. Fill in the fields: > The "AS Set Name" is what you will list in PeeringDB (or email to me). > "Description" is unparsed, but they suggest the location and have > a button to "Copy the Address from My Org ID". > "Members" is where you list your ASN and downstream ASes (if any). > 6. Click "Review". Once ready, click "Submit". > 7. Click "route/route6" at the top. > 8. Click "Create an Object". > 9. Fill in the fields: > "Prefix" is the prefix, e.g. 192.0.2.0/24. > "Origin" is your ASN. > 10. Click "Review". Once ready, click "Submit". > 11. Repeat to create additional route objects until all of your > announcements are covered. Don't forget IPv6! > > *Examples* > > Here is my as-set: https://www.radb.net/query?keywords=AS-WIKTEL > > Here is one example route: > https://www.radb.net/query?keywords=69.89.192.0%2F20 > > (I created the AS33362 one. The AS19905 one is because another AS can > originate this route for DDoS scrubbing reasons.) > > -- > Richard > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: > http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1 > <http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1> > -- Best regards August Yang

May 9, 2023

Re: IRR Mandatory at MICE / New Route Servers

by Jay Hanke

MICE members are able to see their AS-SET entry in IXP manager but not edit the entries. If members would like to check what is currently in the system, here is the link: https://ixpmgr.micemn.net Log in with PeeringDB credentials for your network. RPKI invalids will be rejected on the new route servers upon deployment. On Tue, May 9, 2023 at 10:57 AM Andrew Hoyos <hoyosa(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > Thanks for your work on this, Richard! This is most excellent to see progress on. > > Will there be any "self-service" and/or visibility of this moving forward? (ie: IXP Manager login per member). > > Is RPKI validation part of this as well, or a future item (at least rejecting RPKI invalids from route servers)? > > > Thanks, > Andrew > > On May 9, 2023, at 5:19 AM, Richard Laager <rlaager(a)WIKTEL.COM> wrote: > > [I plan to send this to MICE-ANNOUNCE too, but I want to see if anyone has corrections.] > > MICE will soon be deploying new route servers which will require IRR (Internet Routing Registry) records, as is a best practice at IXPs. > > What > > You MUST have an as-set object listing your AS and your downstream ASes (if any). > > You MUST either list that as-set in PeeringDB or email the name of your as-set to me (off-list to rlaager(a)wiktel.com please). > > A route/route6 object MUST exist for each prefix you announce to the route servers (whether originated by you or transited through you) and it must list an Origin AS that is in your as-set. > > When > > If you are a transit AS (i.e. have ASes behind you) and don't have an as-set object, fix this now. Without an as-set object, your downstream ASes announcements will be blocked (filtered) immediately when the first new route server is cut in. (Granted, they will still work through the second route server until it is upgraded.) Figure you have 1-2 weeks at most. > Enforcement of the route/route6 objects (for both transit and non-transit ASes) will come later, but not a lot later. So please, start on this now. > > Where > > If you are not sure where to create IRR records, use ARIN (assuming you are in the ARIN region). > > How (with ARIN) > > Login to ARIN Online. (Go to arin.net and click Login in the top right.) > On the left side, expand "Routing Security" and click "IRR". > Click "as-set" at the top. > Click "Create an Object". > Fill in the fields: > The "AS Set Name" is what you will list in PeeringDB (or email to me). > "Description" is unparsed, but they suggest the location and have a button to "Copy the Address from My Org ID". > "Members" is where you list your ASN and downstream ASes (if any). > Click "Review". Once ready, click "Submit". > Click "route/route6" at the top. > Click "Create an Object". > Fill in the fields: > "Prefix" is the prefix, e.g. 192.0.2.0/24. > "Origin" is your ASN. > Click "Review". Once ready, click "Submit". > Repeat to create additional route objects until all of your announcements are covered. Don't forget IPv6! > > Examples > > Here is my as-set: https://www.radb.net/query?keywords=AS-WIKTEL > > Here is one example route: https://www.radb.net/query?keywords=69.89.192.0%2F20 > > (I created the AS33362 one. The AS19905 one is because another AS can originate this route for DDoS scrubbing reasons.) > > -- > Richard > > > ________________________________ > > To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: > http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1 > > > > ________________________________ > > To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: > http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1

May 9, 2023

Re: IRR Mandatory at MICE / New Route Servers

by Andrew Hoyos

Thanks for your work on this, Richard! This is most excellent to see progress on. Will there be any "self-service" and/or visibility of this moving forward? (ie: IXP Manager login per member). Is RPKI validation part of this as well, or a future item (at least rejecting RPKI invalids from route servers)? Thanks, Andrew > On May 9, 2023, at 5:19 AM, Richard Laager <rlaager(a)WIKTEL.COM> wrote: > > [I plan to send this to MICE-ANNOUNCE too, but I want to see if anyone has corrections.] > > MICE will soon be deploying new route servers which will require IRR (Internet Routing Registry) records, as is a best practice at IXPs. > > What > > You MUST have an as-set object listing your AS and your downstream ASes (if any). > You MUST either list that as-set in PeeringDB or email the name of your as-set to me (off-list to rlaager(a)wiktel.com <mailto:rlaager@wiktel.com> please). > A route/route6 object MUST exist for each prefix you announce to the route servers (whether originated by you or transited through you) and it must list an Origin AS that is in your as-set. > When > > If you are a transit AS (i.e. have ASes behind you) and don't have an as-set object, fix this now. Without an as-set object, your downstream ASes announcements will be blocked (filtered) immediately when the first new route server is cut in. (Granted, they will still work through the second route server until it is upgraded.) Figure you have 1-2 weeks at most. > Enforcement of the route/route6 objects (for both transit and non-transit ASes) will come later, but not a lot later. So please, start on this now. > Where > > If you are not sure where to create IRR records, use ARIN (assuming you are in the ARIN region). > > How (with ARIN) > > Login to ARIN Online. (Go to arin.net and click Login in the top right.) > On the left side, expand "Routing Security" and click "IRR". > Click "as-set" at the top. > Click "Create an Object". > Fill in the fields: > The "AS Set Name" is what you will list in PeeringDB (or email to me). > "Description" is unparsed, but they suggest the location and have a button to "Copy the Address from My Org ID". > "Members" is where you list your ASN and downstream ASes (if any). > Click "Review". Once ready, click "Submit". > Click "route/route6" at the top. > Click "Create an Object". > Fill in the fields: > "Prefix" is the prefix, e.g. 192.0.2.0/24. > "Origin" is your ASN. > Click "Review". Once ready, click "Submit". > Repeat to create additional route objects until all of your announcements are covered. Don't forget IPv6! > Examples > > Here is my as-set: https://www.radb.net/query?keywords=AS-WIKTEL > > Here is one example route: https://www.radb.net/query?keywords=69.89.192.0%2F20 > > (I created the AS33362 one. The AS19905 one is because another AS can originate this route for DDoS scrubbing reasons.) > > -- > Richard > > To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: > http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1 >

May 9, 2023

IRR Mandatory at MICE / New Route Servers

by Richard Laager

[I plan to send this to MICE-ANNOUNCE too, but I want to see if anyone has corrections.] MICE will soon be deploying new route servers which will require IRR (Internet Routing Registry) records, as is a best practice at IXPs. *What* * You MUST have an as-set object listing your AS and your downstream ASes (if any). o You MUST either list that as-set in PeeringDB or email the name of your as-set to me (off-list to rlaager(a)wiktel.com please). * A route/route6 object MUST exist for each prefix you announce to the route servers (whether originated by you or transited through you) and it must list an Origin AS that is in your as-set. *When* * *If you are a transit AS (i.e. have ASes behind you) and don't have an /as-set/ object, fix this **/now/**.* Without an as-set object, your downstream ASes announcements will be blocked (filtered) immediately when the /first/ new route server is cut in. (Granted, they will still work through the second route server until it is upgraded.) Figure you have 1-2 weeks at most. * Enforcement of the route/route6 objects (for both transit and non-transit ASes) will come later, but not a lot later. So please, start on this now. ** *Where* If you are not sure /where/ to create IRR records, use ARIN (assuming you are in the ARIN region). *How (with ARIN)* 1. Login to ARIN Online. (Go to arin.net and click Login in the top right.) 2. On the left side, expand "Routing Security" and click "IRR". 3. Click "as-set" at the top. 4. Click "Create an Object". 5. Fill in the fields: The "AS Set Name" is what you will list in PeeringDB (or email to me). "Description" is unparsed, but they suggest the location and have a button to "Copy the Address from My Org ID". "Members" is where you list your ASN and downstream ASes (if any). 6. Click "Review". Once ready, click "Submit". 7. Click "route/route6" at the top. 8. Click "Create an Object". 9. Fill in the fields: "Prefix" is the prefix, e.g. 192.0.2.0/24. "Origin" is your ASN. 10. Click "Review". Once ready, click "Submit". 11. Repeat to create additional route objects until all of your announcements are covered. Don't forget IPv6! *Examples* Here is my as-set: https://www.radb.net/query?keywords=AS-WIKTEL Here is one example route: https://www.radb.net/query?keywords=69.89.192.0%2F20 (I created the AS33362 one. The AS19905 one is because another AS can originate this route for DDoS scrubbing reasons.) -- Richard

May 9, 2023

Re: Midwest Peering Summit Info July 17-18th, 2023 Des Moines

by Joe Unger

Nevermind. False alarm. I overlooked the "Enter it now" button that is hiding in pain sight right below the Check In & Check Out windows. [image: image.png] On Mon, May 1, 2023 at 11:48 AM Joe Unger <joe(a)vaultas.com> wrote: > The Book Room Now link is working, but the Group Promo Code doesn't seem > to be working. > > Does anyone have any insight to share on that? > > Thanks, > Joe > > On Mon, May 1, 2023 at 9:29 AM Jay Hanke <jayhanke(a)southfront.io> wrote: > >> The hotel changed reservation systems. Link has been updated. >> >> The room block is very close to full. >> >> On Mon, May 1, 2023 at 9:03 AM Steve Howard <showard(a)paulbunyan.net> >> wrote: >> > >> > Richard, >> > >> > FYI, the "BOOK ROOM NOW" link on the website you referenced is broken. >> > >> > Steve >> > >> > >> > >> > On 4/28/23 21:44, Richard Laager wrote: >> > >> > I have updated the MICE website to reflect this as the next event. If >> you are planning to go and have not signed up, you should do so ASAP. >> > >> > On 3/4/23 17:57, Jay Hanke wrote: >> > >> > We're again doing the MICE summer outreach at the Midwest Peering >> Summit with several other adjacent Internet Exchanges. >> > >> > http://peeringsummit.com >> > >> > Registration for the two day meeting is $25 and includes lunch on the >> second day. We're likely going to fill the capacity of the venue well in >> advance of the event. >> > >> > We are looking for speakers/panelists as well. >> > >> > -- >> > Jay Hanke, President >> > South Front Networks >> > jayhanke(a)southfront.io >> > Phone 612-204-0000 >> > https://southfront.io/path.html >> > >> > >> > >> > ________________________________ >> > >> > To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: >> > http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1 >> > >> > >> > >> > ________________________________ >> > >> > To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: >> > http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1 >> > > > -- > Joe Unger > 612.709.8699 > joe(a)vaultas.com > Vaultas | *Connecting you to the Ecosystem* > vaultas.com > -- Joe Unger 612.709.8699 joe(a)vaultas.com Vaultas | *Connecting you to the Ecosystem* vaultas.com

May 1, 2023

Re: Midwest Peering Summit Info July 17-18th, 2023 Des Moines

by Joe Unger

The Book Room Now link is working, but the Group Promo Code doesn't seem to be working. Does anyone have any insight to share on that? Thanks, Joe On Mon, May 1, 2023 at 9:29 AM Jay Hanke <jayhanke(a)southfront.io> wrote: > The hotel changed reservation systems. Link has been updated. > > The room block is very close to full. > > On Mon, May 1, 2023 at 9:03 AM Steve Howard <showard(a)paulbunyan.net> > wrote: > > > > Richard, > > > > FYI, the "BOOK ROOM NOW" link on the website you referenced is broken. > > > > Steve > > > > > > > > On 4/28/23 21:44, Richard Laager wrote: > > > > I have updated the MICE website to reflect this as the next event. If > you are planning to go and have not signed up, you should do so ASAP. > > > > On 3/4/23 17:57, Jay Hanke wrote: > > > > We're again doing the MICE summer outreach at the Midwest Peering Summit > with several other adjacent Internet Exchanges. > > > > http://peeringsummit.com > > > > Registration for the two day meeting is $25 and includes lunch on the > second day. We're likely going to fill the capacity of the venue well in > advance of the event. > > > > We are looking for speakers/panelists as well. > > > > -- > > Jay Hanke, President > > South Front Networks > > jayhanke(a)southfront.io > > Phone 612-204-0000 > > https://southfront.io/path.html > > > > > > > > ________________________________ > > > > To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: > > http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1 > > > > > > > > ________________________________ > > > > To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: > > http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1 > -- Joe Unger 612.709.8699 joe(a)vaultas.com Vaultas | *Connecting you to the Ecosystem* vaultas.com

May 1, 2023

Re: Midwest Peering Summit Info July 17-18th, 2023 Des Moines

by Jay Hanke

The hotel changed reservation systems. Link has been updated. The room block is very close to full. On Mon, May 1, 2023 at 9:03 AM Steve Howard <showard(a)paulbunyan.net> wrote: > > Richard, > > FYI, the "BOOK ROOM NOW" link on the website you referenced is broken. > > Steve > > > > On 4/28/23 21:44, Richard Laager wrote: > > I have updated the MICE website to reflect this as the next event. If you are planning to go and have not signed up, you should do so ASAP. > > On 3/4/23 17:57, Jay Hanke wrote: > > We're again doing the MICE summer outreach at the Midwest Peering Summit with several other adjacent Internet Exchanges. > > http://peeringsummit.com > > Registration for the two day meeting is $25 and includes lunch on the second day. We're likely going to fill the capacity of the venue well in advance of the event. > > We are looking for speakers/panelists as well. > > -- > Jay Hanke, President > South Front Networks > jayhanke(a)southfront.io > Phone 612-204-0000 > https://southfront.io/path.html > > > > ________________________________ > > To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: > http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1 > > > > ________________________________ > > To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: > http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1

May 1, 2023

Re: Midwest Peering Summit Info July 17-18th, 2023 Des Moines

by Steve Howard

May 1, 2023

Re: Call for Help: Web Design

by Richard Laager

On 4/29/23 08:27, Mike Horwath wrote: > On Fri, Apr 28, 2023 at 09:45:12PM -0500, Richard Laager wrote: >> Anyone know a web developer who could do some/all of the following? >> >> 1. The website uses Bootstrap 3.0.3, which is using jQuery 1.10.2. >> Update to modern versions of that, fixing what breaks. >> 2. At medium screen widths, the navigation comes off the navigation >> area and shows further down on the page. Fix that. >> 3. At small screen widths (including but not limited to mobile), the >> hamburger menu doesn't work quite right. The links show up, but they >> are mixed in with the page text. Fix that. >> >> The code is on GitHub here: https://github.com/micemn/mice-website > > Since this is a static site, why not go for something like Hugo and > just rebuild it into markdown files using a simple theme? I'm not against a larger redesign if someone wants to do it. We want the result to be reasonably nice looking and simple to manage. Note: It is NOT necessary to convert the participants page, as that will be transitioning to being built client side with Javascript pulling from IXP Manager. -- Richard

April 29, 2023

Re: Call for Help: Web Design

by Mike Horwath

On Fri, Apr 28, 2023 at 09:45:12PM -0500, Richard Laager wrote: > Anyone know a web developer who could do some/all of the following? > > 1. The website uses Bootstrap 3.0.3, which is using jQuery 1.10.2. > Update to modern versions of that, fixing what breaks. > 2. At medium screen widths, the navigation comes off the navigation > area and shows further down on the page. Fix that. > 3. At small screen widths (including but not limited to mobile), the > hamburger menu doesn't work quite right. The links show up, but they > are mixed in with the page text. Fix that. > > The code is on GitHub here: https://github.com/micemn/mice-website Since this is a static site, why not go for something like Hugo and just rebuild it into markdown files using a simple theme? Yes, would take some work but there isn't all that much in the site after perusing the repository. If I had more time I'd just knock it out as this is pretty small. Or maybe I'll see how yard work goes this weekend.. :) -- Mike Horwath, reachable via drechsau(a)Geeks.ORG

April 29, 2023