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Akamai Peering

by Jay Hanke

If I placed one of the smaller Akamai clusters in 511, would carriers be interested in peering with the condition that they provide transport to "feed" the cluster? The idea would be that carriers using the cluster would share in the costs. So Carrier A would peer over MICE a router in front of the cluster with the agreement that they advertise the cluster IP addresses to the Internet. Carrier B would do the same thing. Jay ######################################################################## To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1

April 13, 2011

Re: Chicago Problem for MN content

by Frank Bulk

Pretty much the same from the other direction. Anyone have a good contact at Level3? Frank From: MICE Discuss [mailto:MICE-DISCUSS@LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET] On Behalf Of Dan Olsen Sent: Tuesday, April 12, 2011 3:57 PM To: MICE-DISCUSS(a)LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET Subject: Re: [MICE-DISCUSS] Chicago Problem for MN content Seeing the same issue heading to netins in Iowa. I think ( Not the data guy here) Tracing route to www.netins.net<http://www.netins.net> [167.142.226.220] over a maximum of 30 hops: 1 4 ms 1 ms 2 ms 198-174-42-254.windomnet.com [198.174.42.254] 2 6 ms 8 ms 8 ms 199.199.48.53 3 22 ms 20 ms 22 ms ge-6-16.car1.Minneapolis1.Level3.net [4.79.160.9] 4 21 ms 22 ms 23 ms vlan51.ebr1.chicago2.level3.net [4.69.138.158] 5 22 ms 21 ms 33 ms ae-6-6.ebr1.chicago1.level3.net [4.69.140.189] 6 25 ms 26 ms 25 ms ae-4-4.car1.minneapolis1.level3.net [4.69.136.105] 7 31 ms 30 ms 31 ms ae-11-11.car2.minneapolis1.level3.net [4.69.136.102] 8 36 ms 38 ms 38 ms nbc-communi.car2.minneapolis1.level3.net [4.59.66.2] 9 * * * Request timed out. 10 * * * Request timed out. 11 36 ms 33 ms 34 ms ins-db1-et-12-1.desm.netins.net [167.142.67.6] 12 34 ms 32 ms 34 ms webhosting.netins.net [167.142.226.220] Trace complete. Dan Olsen Operations Manager Windomnet City OF Windom 443 10th St PO Box 38 Windom MN 56101 507-832-8007 ________________________________ From: MICE Discuss [mailto:MICE-DISCUSS@LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET] On Behalf Of Jay Hanke Sent: Tuesday, April 12, 2011 3:07 PM To: MICE-DISCUSS(a)LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET Subject: [MICE-DISCUSS] Chicago Problem for MN content I ran a couple of trace routes to "Minnesota Content". http://mankatonetworks.com/wordpress/?p=68 Hickorytech isn't currently exchanging traffic on the exchange. Would a couple of you who are forward looking run some traces to various Minnesota content and post results? jay ######################################################################## To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1 ________________________________ No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com<http://www.avg.com> Version: 10.0.1321 / Virus Database: 1500/3568 - Release Date: 04/12/11 ________________________________ To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1 ######################################################################## To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1

April 13, 2011

Re: Akamai Survey

by Doug McIntyre

On Tue, Apr 12, 2011 at 03:46:14PM -0500, Jay Hanke wrote: > Who currently has an Akamai cluster in their network? ipHouse does. mtr downloads.apple.com Packets Pings Host Loss% Snt Last Avg Best Wrst StDev 1. gw-ext-176-88.staff.iphouse.net 0.0% 8 0.8 1.4 0.8 4.9 1.4 2. c4500-1.bdr.mpls.iphouse.net 0.0% 7 0.7 1.8 0.7 3.3 1.0 3. akamai-103.colo.iphouse.com 0.0% 7 0.4 0.3 0.3 0.4 0.0 Our DNS servers are public open if you want to test.. -- Doug McIntyre <merlyn(a)iphouse.net> -- ipHouse/Goldengate/Bitstream/ProNS -- Network Engineer/Provisioning/Jack of all Trades ######################################################################## To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1

April 12, 2011

Re: Chicago Problem for MN content

by Doug McIntyre

On Tue, Apr 12, 2011 at 04:07:08PM -0500, Jay Hanke wrote: > On Tue, Apr 12, 2011 at 3:56 PM, Dan Olsen <Dano(a)windomnet.com> wrote: > > Seeing the same issue heading to netins in Iowa. I think ( Not the data > > guy here) > > > > That's awful, did I read that right? > > Windom->Minneapolis->Chicago->Minneapolis (ON THE SAME CARRRIER!)->?->Iowa > > I think all of my routing is going to be doughnut from now on... Even > C!@#%! can route locally in Minneapolis. Pretty much the same here.. This one heads out to TX same as you mtr connectmn.org Packets Pings Host Loss% Snt Last Avg Best Wrst StDev 1. gw-ext-176-88.staff.iphouse.net 0.0% 2 0.8 0.8 0.7 0.8 0.0 2. ge0-2-0.m20-2.mpls.iphouse.net 0.0% 2 0.6 0.6 0.5 0.6 0.1 3. POS3-3.GW2.MSP3.ALTER.NET 0.0% 2 0.6 0.6 0.6 0.6 0.0 4. 0.so-1-2-0.XL4.MSP1.ALTER.NET 0.0% 2 0.8 0.8 0.8 0.8 0.0 5. 0.so-7-1-0.XL4.CHI13.ALTER.NET 0.0% 2 10.2 10.1 10.0 10.2 0.1 6. 0.ae4.BR3.CHI13.ALTER.NET 0.0% 1 10.0 10.0 10.0 10.0 0.0 7. 204.255.168.154 0.0% 1 10.2 10.2 10.2 10.2 0.0 8. ASPEN-COMMUNICATIONS.GigabitEthe 0.0% 1 37.9 37.9 37.9 37.9 0.0 9. H101-230-94-69.adstx.net 0.0% 1 36.6 36.6 36.6 36.6 0.0 10. 74.113.21.164 0.0% 1 37.2 37.2 37.2 37.2 0.0 But this is the same mtr www.511.org Packets Pings Host Loss% Snt Last Avg Best Wrst StDev 1. gw-ext-176-88.staff.iphouse.net 0.0% 8 1.0 1.4 0.7 5.3 1.6 2. ge0-2-0.m20-2.mpls.iphouse.net 0.0% 8 0.6 5.0 0.4 31.5 10.9 3. 207-67-87-137.static.twtelecom.n 0.0% 8 0.8 1.1 0.7 3.2 0.9 4. chi2-pr1-ge-7-1-0-0.us.twtelecom 0.0% 8 10.2 10.2 10.1 10.4 0.1 5. tg9-2.cr01.chcgildt.integra.net 0.0% 8 211.5 178.0 64.8 266.4 79.1 6. tg9-3.cr01.mplsmncd.integra.net 0.0% 8 171.0 188.5 132.4 263.0 49.3 7. te9-4.cr02.mplsmncd.integra.net 0.0% 8 66.2 117.6 66.2 178.7 40.9 8. tg13-2.cr02.sttlwatw.integra.net 0.0% 8 94.8 171.6 94.8 251.7 60.2 9. tg13-4.cr01.sttlwatw.integra.net 0.0% 7 206.0 161.2 88.1 230.5 54.3 10. tg13-1.cr01.ptleorte.integra.net 0.0% 7 105.3 116.8 64.9 194.0 46.9 11. tg9-1.ar10.ptldorfj.integra.net 0.0% 7 64.9 69.8 64.0 103.5 14.9 12. 67.51.66.253 0.0% 7 64.4 64.2 64.1 64.4 0.1 That seems to be Integra only peering in Chicago producing that result. Several different networks all backending to mplsmncd.integra.net (in 511??) Still need that Gigapop connection too.. mtr www.state.mn.us Packets Pings Host Loss% Snt Last Avg Best Wrst StDev 1. gw-ext-176-88.staff.iphouse.net 0.0% 21 0.8 0.9 0.7 1.7 0.2 2. ge0-2-0.m20-1.mpls.iphouse.net 0.0% 21 0.4 0.4 0.3 0.5 0.0 3. ge-6-10.car2.Minneapolis1.Level3 0.0% 21 9.9 10.0 9.8 11.1 0.3 4. ae-5-5.ebr2.Denver1.Level3.net 0.0% 21 49.1 42.0 36.4 49.5 4.6 5. ae-4-4.car2.KansasCity1.Level3.n 0.0% 21 40.4 42.2 40.2 79.3 8.5 6. ??? 7. amesia-gr-01-po-2.northernlights 0.0% 21 20.9 20.9 20.7 21.3 0.2 8. mtc-gr-01-po-2.northernlights.gi 0.0% 21 20.9 21.6 20.6 36.9 3.5 9. statecob-gr-01-te-2-2-3001.north 0.0% 21 20.6 21.0 20.6 22.4 0.5 10. som-thor-te-3-3-3001.northernlig 0.0% 21 20.9 20.8 20.5 21.5 0.2 11. cobnhagar-hub-Gi2-9.r.state.mn.u 0.0% 20 20.9 21.2 20.6 27.9 1.6 12. cobnlbsw1-sh-V52.r.state.mn.us 0.0% 20 20.7 20.9 20.7 21.2 0.1 13. www.state.mn.us 0.0% 20 20.9 21.0 20.7 22.7 0.4 Or perhaps Qwest too.. mtr www.ci.minneapolis.mn.us Packets Pings Host Loss% Snt Last Avg Best Wrst StDev 1. gw-ext-176-88.staff.iphouse.net 0.0% 17 0.8 1.4 0.7 10.2 2.3 2. ge0-2-0.m20-2.mpls.iphouse.net 0.0% 17 0.4 2.3 0.3 30.5 7.3 3. ge0-2-0.m20-1.mpls.iphouse.net 0.0% 17 0.4 0.8 0.4 5.2 1.2 4. ge-6-10.car2.Minneapolis1.Level3 0.0% 17 10.0 10.0 9.8 10.6 0.2 5. ae-11-11.car1.Minneapolis1.Level 0.0% 17 9.8 9.9 9.7 10.0 0.1 6. ae-4-4.ebr1.Chicago1.Level3.net 0.0% 17 13.5 14.1 9.8 22.1 4.0 7. ae-6-6.ebr1.Chicago2.Level3.net 0.0% 17 10.2 10.0 9.8 10.2 0.1 8. ae-1-51.edge4.Chicago3.Level3.ne 0.0% 17 9.8 9.9 9.8 10.3 0.1 9. chp-brdr-03.inet.qwest.net 0.0% 17 10.1 10.0 9.8 10.1 0.1 10. min-core-02.inet.qwest.net 0.0% 16 19.9 19.9 19.7 20.2 0.2 11. min-edge-10.inet.qwest.net 0.0% 16 19.8 19.8 19.7 20.0 0.1 12. 65.126.82.250 0.0% 16 23.2 32.1 20.8 127.2 27.6 13. www.ci.minneapolis.mn.us 0.0% 16 23.9 22.5 20.8 32.6 2.9 -- Doug McIntyre <merlyn(a)iphouse.net> -- ipHouse/Goldengate/Bitstream/ProNS -- Network Engineer/Provisioning/Jack of all Trades ######################################################################## To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1

April 12, 2011

Re: Akamai Survey

by James Stahr

At 03:46 PM 4/12/2011, Jay Hanke wrote: >Who currently has an Akamai cluster in their network? We've got a few hosts on our network, but they are located in our Madison facility. -James CDW Technologies (formerly Berbee/binc.net) ######################################################################## To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1

April 12, 2011

Re: Akamai Survey

by Russell Berg

WIN/Airstream does -----Original Message----- From: MICE Discuss [mailto:MICE-DISCUSS@LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET] On Behalf Of Jay Hanke Sent: Tuesday, April 12, 2011 3:46 PM To: MICE-DISCUSS(a)LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET Subject: [MICE-DISCUSS] Akamai Survey Who currently has an Akamai cluster in their network? Jay ######################################################################## To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1 ######################################################################## To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1

April 12, 2011

Re: Chicago Problem for MN content

by Jay Hanke

On Tue, Apr 12, 2011 at 3:56 PM, Dan Olsen <Dano(a)windomnet.com> wrote: > Seeing the same issue heading to netins in Iowa. I think ( Not the data > guy here) > That's awful, did I read that right? Windom->Minneapolis->Chicago->Minneapolis (ON THE SAME CARRRIER!)->?->Iowa I think all of my routing is going to be doughnut from now on... Even C!@#%! can route locally in Minneapolis. ######################################################################## To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1

April 12, 2011

Re: Chicago Problem for MN content

by Dan Olsen

Seeing the same issue heading to netins in Iowa. I think ( Not the data guy here) Tracing route to www.netins.net [167.142.226.220] over a maximum of 30 hops: 1 4 ms 1 ms 2 ms 198-174-42-254.windomnet.com [198.174.42.254] 2 6 ms 8 ms 8 ms 199.199.48.53 3 22 ms 20 ms 22 ms ge-6-16.car1.Minneapolis1.Level3.net [4.79.160.9] 4 21 ms 22 ms 23 ms vlan51.ebr1.chicago2.level3.net [4.69.138.158] 5 22 ms 21 ms 33 ms ae-6-6.ebr1.chicago1.level3.net [4.69.140.189] 6 25 ms 26 ms 25 ms ae-4-4.car1.minneapolis1.level3.net [4.69.136.105] 7 31 ms 30 ms 31 ms ae-11-11.car2.minneapolis1.level3.net [4.69.136.102] 8 36 ms 38 ms 38 ms nbc-communi.car2.minneapolis1.level3.net [4.59.66.2] 9 * * * Request timed out. 10 * * * Request timed out. 11 36 ms 33 ms 34 ms ins-db1-et-12-1.desm.netins.net [167.142.67.6] 12 34 ms 32 ms 34 ms webhosting.netins.net [167.142.226.220] Trace complete. Dan Olsen Operations Manager Windomnet City OF Windom 443 10th St PO Box 38 Windom MN 56101 507-832-8007 _____ From: MICE Discuss [mailto:MICE-DISCUSS@LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET] On Behalf Of Jay Hanke Sent: Tuesday, April 12, 2011 3:07 PM To: MICE-DISCUSS(a)LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET Subject: [MICE-DISCUSS] Chicago Problem for MN content I ran a couple of trace routes to "Minnesota Content". http://mankatonetworks.com/wordpress/?p=68 Hickorytech isn't currently exchanging traffic on the exchange. Would a couple of you who are forward looking run some traces to various Minnesota content and post results? jay ######################################################################## To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS <http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1> &A=1 _____ No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 10.0.1321 / Virus Database: 1500/3568 - Release Date: 04/12/11 ######################################################################## To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1

April 12, 2011

Akamai Survey

by Jay Hanke

Who currently has an Akamai cluster in their network? Jay ######################################################################## To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1

April 12, 2011

Chicago Problem for MN content

by Jay Hanke

I ran a couple of trace routes to "Minnesota Content". http://mankatonetworks.com/wordpress/?p=68 Hickorytech isn't currently exchanging traffic on the exchange. Would a couple of you who are forward looking run some traces to various Minnesota content and post results? jay ######################################################################## To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1

April 12, 2011