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UG 29 Meeting & Election

by Richard Laager

The MICE UG 29 meeting will be held Wednesday, October 10, 3:00 pm, at the 511 Building Cafeteria, 11th Avenue South, Minneapolis, MN. The agenda and draft UG 28 minutes are attached. The remote conferencing will be the same as before: 952-562-5400 passcode MICE (6423). At this meeting, we will be holding an election for a board seat. The board consists of three seats with staggered terms, such that one seat comes up for re-election each year (at the fall meeting). This year, Reid's seat is up for election. Reid _is_ running for re-election. If anyone else is interested in running, please nominate yourself. Voting will be done in person. If you will not be attending in person, you must designate a proxy, in advance, in writing. The bylaws state that you send that to the Chief Manager (me, Richard Laager), and electronic means are acceptable. So a simple email is sufficient: rlaager(a)wiktel.com or, if you prefer, chiefmanager(a)micemn.net If you are having trouble finding a proxy who will be there in person, ask on the list or I can help you find someone. -- Richard

Sept. 24, 2018

Arista Test Drive Training Wednesday, October 3rd

by John McLaughlin

Hello MICE Members: If you can join us for a day of free training please use the links below to register and review what an Arista Test Drive covers. https://solutions.arista.com/2018-09-atd-minnetonka-mn <https://solutions.arista.com/2018-09-atd-minnetonka-mn> https://solutions.arista.com/atd-training <https://solutions.arista.com/atd-training> ATD TRAINING What we offer: A curriculum designed to deliver world-class content and learning experience Small, intimate class sizes, led by our local engineers, for greater classroom interaction In addition to the schedule listed, we can add classes to fit your needs. Just tell us when and where, and we take care of the rest Please reach out to your Arista Account Manager or Training(a)Arista.com <mailto:Training@Arista.com> for more information! Thanks, -JMc John McLaughlin North Central Sales jmclaughlin(a)arista.com Cell# 612-816-9024 https://www.barrons.com/articles/worlds-best-ceos-growth-leaders-1527304583…

Sept. 23, 2018

Re: Power a pdu?

by Mike Horwath

On Fri, Sep 14, 2018 at 09:18:11PM +0000, Ryan Goldberg wrote: > Sorry for the OT, slap my hand if necessary. Far from OT. Glad you were taken care of! -- Mike Horwath, reachable via drechsau(a)Geeks.ORG

Sept. 15, 2018

Re: Power a pdu?

by Ryan Goldberg

I want to thank the folks that reached out. The always helpful Mr Lumby has saved me a headache. Thanks!! > On Sep 14, 2018, at 4:19 PM, Ryan Goldberg <RGoldberg(a)COMPUDYNE.COM> wrote: > > Borrow. Not power. > >> On Sep 14, 2018, at 4:18 PM, Ryan Goldberg <RGoldberg(a)COMPUDYNE.COM> wrote: >> >> Anyone at 511 and have 208v pdu with L6-30 in and a few c13 and c19 out? Ran into a sticky spot and could use one or two tonight. Can order and ship new to you or return in 2.5 weeks. >> >> Sorry for the OT, slap my hand if necessary. >> >> Ryan >> 218-390-5485 >

Sept. 14, 2018

Re: Power a pdu?

by Ryan Goldberg

Borrow. Not power. > On Sep 14, 2018, at 4:18 PM, Ryan Goldberg <RGoldberg(a)COMPUDYNE.COM> wrote: > > Anyone at 511 and have 208v pdu with L6-30 in and a few c13 and c19 out? Ran into a sticky spot and could use one or two tonight. Can order and ship new to you or return in 2.5 weeks. > > Sorry for the OT, slap my hand if necessary. > > Ryan > 218-390-5485

Sept. 14, 2018

Power a pdu?

by Ryan Goldberg

Anyone at 511 and have 208v pdu with L6-30 in and a few c13 and c19 out? Ran into a sticky spot and could use one or two tonight. Can order and ship new to you or return in 2.5 weeks. Sorry for the OT, slap my hand if necessary. Ryan 218-390-5485

Sept. 14, 2018

MICE Mailing Address

by Kayla Olsen

*This is a duplicate notice for some of you, please disregard if it's old news...* Greetings, The mailing address for MICE (Midwest Internet Cooperative Exchange) has changed. Please update your records to: Midwest Internet Cooperative Exchange PO Box 153 Mankato MN 56002-0153 http://micemn.net/ Thank you, Kayla Olsen MICE Treasurer

Sept. 10, 2018

Re: Routing of non-IX traffic

by Richard Laager

On 08/21/2018 02:08 PM, Richard Laager wrote: > On 08/21/2018 08:04 AM, Frank Bulk wrote: >> Since we already have a list of which MACs have proxy ARP on, I would >> suggest the MICE leadership team privately contact those MICE >> participants and ask them to turn off proxy ARP. > > Sure thing. I've emailed them all off-list. As of this afternoon, no MICE participants are doing proxy ARP. Thanks to those participants for responding quickly and reconfiguring their routers. Thanks to Matthew Beckwell for repeated testing to confirm the progress. -- Richard

Aug. 23, 2018

Re: Routing of non-IX traffic

by Richard Laager

On 08/21/2018 08:04 AM, Frank Bulk wrote: > Since we already have a list of which MACs have proxy ARP on, I would > suggest the MICE leadership team privately contact those MICE > participants and ask them to turn off proxy ARP. Sure thing. I've emailed them all off-list. -- Richard

Aug. 21, 2018

Re: Routing of non-IX traffic

by Frank Bulk

Since we already have a list of which MACs have proxy ARP on, I would suggest the MICE leadership team privately contact those MICE participants and ask them to turn off proxy ARP. Frank From: MICE Discuss <MICE-DISCUSS(a)LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET> On Behalf Of Andrew Hoyos Sent: Saturday, August 18, 2018 5:36 PM To: MICE-DISCUSS(a)LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET Subject: Re: [MICE-DISCUSS] Routing of non-IX traffic Relavent: https://ripe63.ripe.net/presentations/130-Proxy_ARP_RIPE_Nov2011.pdf Seems like quite a few participants on MICE with proxy ARP still on. I know some IX’s toss you in a quarantine VLAN for initial turn-up - maybe this is something that needs to start, so this sort of thing can be checked? — Andrew Hoyos hoyosa(a)gmail.com<mailto:hoyosa@gmail.com> On Aug 16, 2018, at 9:52 PM, Frank Bulk <fbulk(a)mypremieronline.com<mailto:fbulk@mypremieronline.com>> wrote: Thanks, Matthew, for explaining why ARP might be happening. Now that CNS has its proxy ARP turned off, it’s AS393639 that’s responding: SiouxCenter-Arista-North(s1)#traceroute ip www.yamaha-dealers.com<http://www.yamaha-dealers.com/> source et 3/24 traceroute to www.yamaha-dealers.com<http://www.yamaha-dealers.com/> (45.60.73.16), 30 hops max, 60 byte packets 1 AS393639.micemn.net<http://as393639.micemn.net/> (206.108.255.47) 13.936 ms 14.004 ms 13.998 ms 2 v415.core1.msp1.he.net<http://v415.core1.msp1.he.net/> (184.105.25.93) 14.146 ms 14.205 ms 14.274 ms 3 100ge13-1.core2.chi1.he.net<http://100ge13-1.core2.chi1.he.net/> (184.105.223.177) 22.533 ms 22.369 ms 22.538 ms 4 * * * 5 * * * 6 * * * 7 * * * 8 * * * 9 *^CSiouxCenter-Arista-North(s1)# Can an ACL be created on the Arista that discards in/outbound ARP requests for the non-MICE address space? Frank From: MICE Discuss <MICE-DISCUSS(a)LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET<mailto:MICE-DISCUSS@LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET>> On Behalf Of Steve Howard Sent: Thursday, August 16, 2018 9:32 PM To: MICE-DISCUSS(a)LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET<mailto:MICE-DISCUSS@LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET> Subject: Re: [MICE-DISCUSS] Routing of non-IX traffic I've disabled proxy arp on the CNS router... Has the behavior changed? On 08/16/2018 05:00 PM, Matthew Beckwell wrote: I'm getting similar behavior as Frank. Like Doug, I only have 45.60.73.0/24<http://45.60.73.0/24> from transit connections. So a traceroute from my MICE interface should ARP and die (I would think).... When I traceroute to 45.60.73.16-- my router sends out an ARP request, as expected. But...I get ARP replies for 45.60.73.16 from these Cisco MACs (in the order they came into my interface): 00:23:33:c6:a0:c0 206.108.255.50 Cooperative Network Services (CNS) 32609 e4:aa:5d:83:73:06 206.108.255.47 IVDesk 393639 88:43:e1:00:f2:10 206.108.255.18 Consolidated Communications 12042 b0:aa:77:33:7b:03 206.108.255.79 Gigamonster, LLC 31939 3c:08:f6:81:6e:a5 206.108.255.46 OneNetUSA 46131 00:1d:e5:c0:78:c3 206.108.255.5 Implex 21709 54:75:d0:e6:08:30 206.108.255.106 Nuvera Communications 23465 00:11:5d:82:6c:00 206.108.255.80 Future Technologies 26451 Proxy ARP (or something like it)? CNS seems to be consistently coming in first place when I clear my ARP entry. ~Matthew matthewb(a)aitech.net<mailto:matthewb@aitech.net> AS13746 On Thu, Aug 16, 2018 at 3:25 PM, Frank Bulk <fbulk(a)mypremieronline.com<mailto:fbulk@mypremieronline.com>> wrote: When I force a traceroute to originate from our MICE-facing connection, the first hop is 206.108.255.50 (AS32609 aka CNS). Any reason why? To making things more interesting, Incapsula-destined traffic goes via Paul Bunyan. Here's just one example: traceroute to www.yamaha-dealers.com<http://www.yamaha-dealers.com/> (45.60.73.16), 30 hops max, 60 byte packets 1 AS32609.micemn.net<http://as32609.micemn.net/> (206.108.255.50) 14.059 ms 14.084 ms 14.076 ms 2 cns70.cnsllc.net<http://cns70.cnsllc.net/> (205.149.150.9) 18.484 ms 18.434 ms 18.507 ms 3 fg30.ips.cnsllc.net<http://fg30.ips.cnsllc.net/> (205.149.150.30) 20.254 ms 20.346 ms 20.267 ms 4 crss2.PaulBunyan.net<http://crss2.paulbunyan.net/> (205.149.159.197) 20.527 ms 20.562 ms 20.619 ms 5 cra.PaulBunyan.net<http://cra.paulbunyan.net/> (205.149.159.181) 23.398 ms fp233.ips.PaulBunyan.net<http://fp233.ips.paulbunyan.net/> (205.149.159.233) 22.669 ms cra.PaulBunyan.net<http://cra.paulbunyan.net/> (205.149.159.181) 23.393 ms 6 * * * 7 * * * 8 * * * 9 * * * 10 * * * 11 * * * 12 * * * 13 * * * 14 * * * 15 * * * 16 * * * 17 * * * 18 * * * 19 * * * 20 * * * 21 * * * 22 * * * 23 * * * 24 * * * 25 * * * 26 * * * 27 * * * 28 * * * 29 * * * 30 * * * SiouxCenter-Arista-North(s1) The reason I stumbled across this is because we've had more than a dozen customers over the last month complain about access to Incapsula-protected sites. Packet captures show TCP RSTs coming from the far side. Regards, Frank Bulk AS53347 ________________________________ To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1 ________________________________ To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1 ________________________________ To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1 ________________________________ To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1

Aug. 21, 2018