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Re: Youtube issues

by Mike Horwath

On Fri, Feb 24, 2017 at 08:56:33AM -0600, Andrew Hoyos wrote: > 36040 is a customer of HE.net in MSP, so you'd need to send those to > HE as well if you peer with them or are a customer. Otherwise they > will learn your prefixes that way too, sans communities. Why is a customer sending other peoples' routes into HE to then go into the exchange? -- Mike Horwath, reachable via drechsau(a)Geeks.ORG

Feb. 24, 2017

Re: Youtube issues

by Andrew Hoyos

36040 is a customer of HE.net in MSP, so you'd need to send those to HE as well if you peer with them or are a customer. Otherwise they will learn your prefixes that way too, sans communities. -- Andrew Hoyos hoyosa(a)gmail.com > On Feb 24, 2017, at 8:53 AM, Doug McIntyre <merlyn(a)IPHOUSE.NET> wrote: > > FWIW: in discussion with others, using communities back to the route-servers that > tell them to not pass your prefix onto Google does NOT seem to work. They seem > to cache and hold onto your information even after BGP prefix withdrawl. > > Going more active like below seems to be more effective. > > > >> On Fri, Feb 24, 2017 at 07:57:00AM -0600, Jeremy Lumby wrote: >> Matthew, >> >> As part of the tech committee, I recommend Colin's solution of Community Strings that I have copied in below. This should give everyone the control they need to help their connection until Google completes the upgrade. >> >> Jeremy >> >> >> We've had success with the action communities documented here: >> >> https://isp.google.com/static/downloads/BGPCommunitySupport.pdf >> >> Sending 15169:* to 36040 seems to work, including via route servers. >> >> -- >> Colin Baker >> SupraNet Communications, Inc. >> (608) 572-7634 >> colinb(a)supranet.net >> >> >> From: MICE Discuss [mailto:MICE-DISCUSS@LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET] On Behalf Of Matthew Beckwell >> Sent: Friday, February 24, 2017 7:48 AM >> To: MICE-DISCUSS(a)LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET >> Subject: Re: [MICE-DISCUSS] Youtube issues >> >> If it's creating issues for other members, it's time to take action until the 2 new 10G's are in place. >> >> What are our options? >> Remove from the route server? Ask large users to take one for the team and use their own transit for awhile? >> >> We need the technical committee to take the lead here. >> ~Matthew >> >> On Thu, Feb 23, 2017 at 11:47 PM, Richard Laager <rlaager(a)wiktel.com> wrote: >> I would imagine it is related to the Google congestion. We were seeing YouTube buffering yesterday. >> >> -- >> Richard >> >> >> >> >> >> To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: >> http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1 > > -- > Doug McIntyre <merlyn(a)iphouse.net> > ~.~ ipHouse ~.~ > Network Engineer/Provisioning/Jack of all Trades

Feb. 24, 2017

Re: Youtube issues

by Doug McIntyre

FWIW: in discussion with others, using communities back to the route-servers that tell them to not pass your prefix onto Google does NOT seem to work. They seem to cache and hold onto your information even after BGP prefix withdrawl. Going more active like below seems to be more effective. On Fri, Feb 24, 2017 at 07:57:00AM -0600, Jeremy Lumby wrote: > Matthew, > > As part of the tech committee, I recommend Colin's solution of Community Strings that I have copied in below. This should give everyone the control they need to help their connection until Google completes the upgrade. > > Jeremy > > > We've had success with the action communities documented here: > > https://isp.google.com/static/downloads/BGPCommunitySupport.pdf > > Sending 15169:* to 36040 seems to work, including via route servers. > > -- > Colin Baker > SupraNet Communications, Inc. > (608) 572-7634 > colinb(a)supranet.net > > > From: MICE Discuss [mailto:MICE-DISCUSS@LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET] On Behalf Of Matthew Beckwell > Sent: Friday, February 24, 2017 7:48 AM > To: MICE-DISCUSS(a)LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET > Subject: Re: [MICE-DISCUSS] Youtube issues > > If it's creating issues for other members, it's time to take action until the 2 new 10G's are in place. > > What are our options? > Remove from the route server? Ask large users to take one for the team and use their own transit for awhile? > > We need the technical committee to take the lead here. > ~Matthew > > On Thu, Feb 23, 2017 at 11:47 PM, Richard Laager <rlaager(a)wiktel.com> wrote: > I would imagine it is related to the Google congestion. We were seeing YouTube buffering yesterday. > > -- > Richard > > > > > > To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: > http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1 -- Doug McIntyre <merlyn(a)iphouse.net> ~.~ ipHouse ~.~ Network Engineer/Provisioning/Jack of all Trades

Feb. 24, 2017

Re: Youtube issues

by Jeremy Lumby

Matthew, As part of the tech committee, I recommend Colin's solution of Community Strings that I have copied in below. This should give everyone the control they need to help their connection until Google completes the upgrade. Jeremy We've had success with the action communities documented here: https://isp.google.com/static/downloads/BGPCommunitySupport.pdf Sending 15169:* to 36040 seems to work, including via route servers. -- Colin Baker SupraNet Communications, Inc. (608) 572-7634 colinb(a)supranet.net From: MICE Discuss [mailto:MICE-DISCUSS@LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET] On Behalf Of Matthew Beckwell Sent: Friday, February 24, 2017 7:48 AM To: MICE-DISCUSS(a)LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET Subject: Re: [MICE-DISCUSS] Youtube issues If it's creating issues for other members, it's time to take action until the 2 new 10G's are in place. What are our options? Remove from the route server? Ask large users to take one for the team and use their own transit for awhile? We need the technical committee to take the lead here. ~Matthew On Thu, Feb 23, 2017 at 11:47 PM, Richard Laager <rlaager(a)wiktel.com> wrote: I would imagine it is related to the Google congestion. We were seeing YouTube buffering yesterday. -- Richard To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1

Feb. 24, 2017

Re: Youtube issues

by Matthew Beckwell

If it's creating issues for other members, it's time to take action until the 2 new 10G's are in place. What are our options? Remove from the route server? Ask large users to take one for the team and use their own transit for awhile? We need the technical committee to take the lead here. ~Matthew On Thu, Feb 23, 2017 at 11:47 PM, Richard Laager <rlaager(a)wiktel.com> wrote: > I would imagine it is related to the Google congestion. We were seeing > YouTube buffering yesterday. > > -- > Richard

Feb. 24, 2017

Re: Youtube issues

by Richard Laager

I would imagine it is related to the Google congestion. We were seeing YouTube buffering yesterday. -- Richard

Feb. 24, 2017

Youtube issues

by Jason Hanke

I'm seeing intermittent youtube issues on charter. Is anyone else seeing it? Mostly audio issues.

Feb. 24, 2017

Re: Google congestion?

by Colin Baker

On Wed, Feb 22, 2017 at 5:09 PM, Richard Laager <rlaager(a)WIKTEL.COM> wrote: > I'm guessing this did not happen. > > Google's MICE LAG is flat-topped at 40G again, and the complaints have > restarted from my customers. > > I'm trying to re-route my traffic through the use of route server > communities, but so far no luck according to: > http://redirector.c.youtube.com/report_mapping We've had success with the action communities documented here: https://isp.google.com/static/downloads/BGPCommunitySupport.pdf Sending 15169:* to 36040 seems to work, including via route servers. -- Colin Baker SupraNet Communications, Inc. (608) 572-7634 colinb(a)supranet.net

Feb. 22, 2017

Re: Google congestion?

by Andrew Hoyos

> On Feb 22, 2017, at 5:09 PM, Richard Laager <rlaager(a)WIKTEL.COM> wrote: > > I'm guessing this did not happen. > > Google's MICE LAG is flat-topped at 40G again, and the complaints have > restarted from my customers. > > I'm trying to re-route my traffic through the use of route server > communities, but so far no luck according to: > http://redirector.c.youtube.com/report_mapping Good to hear we’re not the only ones. Google claiming their magic sauce should spread the load around if congestion, but that doesn’t seem to be happening. We’ve got few tickets open. One caveat, is that HE.net appears to be providing transit to 36040 there, so if you’re a direct/indirect customer or peer of HE.net (which you appear to be via CNS, and I’m guessing via MICE too) they are advertising your prefixes to 36040 anyway. -- Andrew Hoyos hoyosa(a)gmail.com

Feb. 22, 2017

Re: Google congestion?

by Doug McIntyre

On Wed, Feb 22, 2017 at 05:09:38PM -0600, Richard Laager wrote: > On 02/21/2017 05:12 PM, Jason Hanke wrote: > > They're in the process of adding 2x10g right now. > > I'm guessing this did not happen. In process, as in lines are being ordered, optics being ordered.. Not to the point yet of just plugging it in. due date unknown.. -- Doug McIntyre <merlyn(a)iphouse.net> ~.~ ipHouse ~.~ Network Engineer/Provisioning/Jack of all Trades

Feb. 22, 2017