- mice-discuss - lists.micemn.net

MICE People (Was: Re: MICE core switch maintenance window - 10/27/2016 12:30AM-1:00AM CDT)

by Richard Laager

On 10/25/2016 01:56 PM, Richard Laager wrote: > On 10/25/2016 09:40 AM, Andrew Hoyos wrote: >> My suggestion would be for the formal creation of a technical committee by the board > > This is something I intend to work on soon, but the tax-exempt thing is > higher priority. > > I'm envisioning: > > 1) making a page on the MICE website like the following page: > https://www.seattleix.net/whos-who This is now done, and was reviewed by the people mentioned: http://micemn.net/people.html > 2) asking the board to ACK its contents The officers were previously appointed by board vote. We just now ACK'ed the committees. It's definitely all official now. > 3) asking for a MICE-TECH and/or MICE-OPS list be created (depending on > whether we have distinct groups and what those people want). I expect at > least one list will be closed to members only. This was discussed previously and there wasn't a lot of interest. -- Richard

March 1, 2017

Arista

by Jason Hanke

Did the switch arrive in one piece? -- Jay Hanke CTO Neutral Path Communications 3 Civic Center Plaza, Suite 204 Mankato, MN 56001 (507) 327-2398 mobile jayhanke(a)neutralpath.net www.neutralpath.net

March 1, 2017

Re: Arista switch!

by Scott Strelitz

Jay- Let me know if you need any help with anything as you get it set up. Make sure you have your account with Arista TAC all set as well and we can get you all lit up! Thanks, Scott *Scott Strelitz* Sales Director North Central *Arista Networks, Inc. * Ph: 1-847-833-5330 Email: sstrelitz(a)arista.com Web: www.arista.com Software Driven Cloud Networking <https://www.linkedin.com/company/arista-networks-inc> <https://www.facebook.com/AristaNW/> <https://twitter.com/aristanetworks> <https://www.youtube.com/user/AristaNetworks>2016 Gartner Magic Quadrant for Data Center Networking <https://www.gartner.com/doc/reprints?ct=160517&id=1-36UFTCZ&st=sb> On February 28, 2017 at 9:37:04 AM, Jason Hanke (jayhanke(a)neutralpath.net) wrote: FedEx says it's going to deliver today! https://www.fedex.com/apps/fedextrack/?tracknumbers=674799919944&language=e… -- Jay Hanke CTO Neutral Path Communications 3 Civic Center Plaza, Suite 204 Mankato, MN 56001 (507) 327-2398 mobile jayhanke(a)neutralpath.net www.neutralpath.net ------------------------------ To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1

Feb. 28, 2017

Arista switch!

by Jason Hanke

FedEx says it's going to deliver today! https://www.fedex.com/apps/fedextrack/?tracknumbers=674799919944&language=e… -- Jay Hanke CTO Neutral Path Communications 3 Civic Center Plaza, Suite 204 Mankato, MN 56001 (507) 327-2398 mobile jayhanke(a)neutralpath.net www.neutralpath.net

Feb. 28, 2017

Re: Youtube issues

by Shaun Carlson

I did notice that the local cache seems to have a little more traffic than usual lately. I wonder if that's related. s Shaun Carlson Director of Information Technology | Arvig ph: (218) (tel:(218)%C2%A0346-8673)346-8673 (tel:(218)%C2%A0346-8673) | em: shaun.carlson(a)arvig.com (mailto:shaun.carlson@arvig.com) On Feb 24, 2017, 21:00 -0600, Ben Wiechman <ben.wiechman(a)arvig.com>, wrote: > We're trying to track down specific reports. We have a local cache so I think that is masking most of the potential issues. One or two folks mentioned some Youtube buffering after being informed of a potential issue so it seems likely there is some impact, but I couldn't say with complete certainty that congestion through MICE is the cause. > > I did open a ticket with Google as well to see if they would make a specific recommendation or otherwise comment on their suggested course of action to minimize customer impact. We'll see what they say. > > We've needed an excuse to review how we are advertising our prefixes to Google anyway. > > Our interest was in taking a (semi) proactive stance to attempt to prioritize other sources until this issue is resolved. > > > Ben Wiechman > Network Engineer IV | Arvig > Direct: 320.256.0184 (tel:320.256.0184) > Cell: 320.247.3224 (tel:320.247.3224) > Office: 320.256.7471 (tel:320.256.7471) > ben.wiechman(a)arvig.com (mailto:ben.wiechman@arvig.com) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Fri, Feb 24, 2017 at 8:54 PM, Andrew Hoyos <hoyosa(a)gmail.com (mailto:hoyosa@gmail.com)> wrote: > > Ben, is Arvig seeing problems too? > > > > Seems like at this scale and number of complaints, Google should work their black magic to shed some traffic to different GGC nodes, rather than all of us having to actively try and coerce traffic elsewhere. > > > > There clearly seems to be an issue here, and Google has yet to ack. > > > > -- > > Andrew Hoyos > > hoyosa(a)gmail.com (mailto:hoyosa@gmail.com) > > > > > > On Feb 24, 2017, at 8:46 PM, Ben Wiechman <ben.wiechman(a)ARVIG.COM (mailto:ben.wiechman@ARVIG.COM)> wrote: > > > > > To confirm what others have found to be effective. > > > > > > Are you advertising community 15169:13000 to the route servers, and on any direct peering sessions with AS36040? > > > > > > > > > Ben Wiechman > > > Network Engineer IV | Arvig > > > Direct: 320.256.0184 (tel:(320)%20256-0184) > > > Cell: 320.247.3224 (tel:(320)%20247-3224) > > > Office: 320.256.7471 (tel:(320)%20256-7471) > > > ben.wiechman(a)arvig.com (mailto:ben.wiechman@arvig.com) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Fri, Feb 24, 2017 at 3:29 PM, Mike Horwath <drechsau(a)geeks.org (mailto:drechsau@geeks.org)> wrote: > > > > On Fri, Feb 24, 2017 at 10:38:43AM -0600, Andrew Hoyos wrote: > > > > > > On Feb 24, 2017, at 10:26 AM, Mike Horwath <drechsau(a)Geeks.ORG (mailto:drechsau@Geeks.ORG)> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > On Fri, Feb 24, 2017 at 08:56:33AM -0600, Andrew Hoyos wrote: > > > > > >> 36040 is a customer of HE.net (http://HE.net) in MSP, so you'd need to send those to > > > > > >> HE as well if you peer with them or are a customer. Otherwise they > > > > > >> will learn your prefixes that way too, sans communities. > > > > > > > > > > > > Why is a customer sending other peoples' routes into HE to then go > > > > > > into the exchange? > > > > > > > > > > 36040 is a customer of HE.net (http://HE.net) So, HE.net (http://HE.net) is sending them a full > > > > > table or some subset (including their peers and customers), as > > > > > expected. > > > > > > > > I misread and now understand. > > > > > > > > Thank you! > > > > > > > > I had taken it the other way which was making no freakin' sense at all > > > > in todays world of interconnectivity. > > > > > > > > -- > > > > Mike Horwath, reachable via drechsau(a)Geeks.ORG (mailto:drechsau@Geeks.ORG) > > > > > > > > > > > > To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: > > > http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: > > http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1 > > > > > > > > > > > > To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: > http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1 >

Feb. 25, 2017

Re: Youtube issues

by Ben Wiechman

We're trying to track down specific reports. We have a local cache so I think that is masking most of the potential issues. One or two folks mentioned some Youtube buffering after being informed of a potential issue so it seems likely there is some impact, but I couldn't say with complete certainty that congestion through MICE is the cause. I did open a ticket with Google as well to see if they would make a specific recommendation or otherwise comment on their suggested course of action to minimize customer impact. We'll see what they say. We've needed an excuse to review how we are advertising our prefixes to Google anyway. Our interest was in taking a (semi) proactive stance to attempt to prioritize other sources until this issue is resolved. Ben Wiechman Network Engineer IV | Arvig Direct: 320.256.0184 Cell: 320.247.3224 Office: 320.256.7471 ben.wiechman(a)arvig.com On Fri, Feb 24, 2017 at 8:54 PM, Andrew Hoyos <hoyosa(a)gmail.com> wrote: > Ben, is Arvig seeing problems too? > > Seems like at this scale and number of complaints, Google should work > their black magic to shed some traffic to different GGC nodes, rather than > all of us having to actively try and coerce traffic elsewhere. > > There clearly seems to be an issue here, and Google has yet to ack. > > -- > Andrew Hoyos > hoyosa(a)gmail.com > > On Feb 24, 2017, at 8:46 PM, Ben Wiechman <ben.wiechman(a)ARVIG.COM> wrote: > > To confirm what others have found to be effective. > > Are you advertising community 15169:13000 to the route servers, and on any > direct peering sessions with AS36040? > > > Ben Wiechman > Network Engineer IV | Arvig > Direct: 320.256.0184 <(320)%20256-0184> > Cell: 320.247.3224 <(320)%20247-3224> > Office: 320.256.7471 <(320)%20256-7471> > ben.wiechman(a)arvig.com > > On Fri, Feb 24, 2017 at 3:29 PM, Mike Horwath <drechsau(a)geeks.org> wrote: > >> On Fri, Feb 24, 2017 at 10:38:43AM -0600, Andrew Hoyos wrote: >> > > On Feb 24, 2017, at 10:26 AM, Mike Horwath <drechsau(a)Geeks.ORG> >> wrote: >> > > >> > > On Fri, Feb 24, 2017 at 08:56:33AM -0600, Andrew Hoyos wrote: >> > >> 36040 is a customer of HE.net in MSP, so you'd need to send those to >> > >> HE as well if you peer with them or are a customer. Otherwise they >> > >> will learn your prefixes that way too, sans communities. >> > > >> > > Why is a customer sending other peoples' routes into HE to then go >> > > into the exchange? >> > >> > 36040 is a customer of HE.net. So, HE.net is sending them a full >> > table or some subset (including their peers and customers), as >> > expected. >> >> I misread and now understand. >> >> Thank you! >> >> I had taken it the other way which was making no freakin' sense at all >> in todays world of interconnectivity. >> >> -- >> Mike Horwath, reachable via drechsau(a)Geeks.ORG >> > > > ------------------------------ > > To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: > http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1 > > > ------------------------------ > > To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: > http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1 >

Feb. 25, 2017

Re: Youtube issues

by Andrew Hoyos

Ben, is Arvig seeing problems too? Seems like at this scale and number of complaints, Google should work their black magic to shed some traffic to different GGC nodes, rather than all of us having to actively try and coerce traffic elsewhere. There clearly seems to be an issue here, and Google has yet to ack. -- Andrew Hoyos hoyosa(a)gmail.com > On Feb 24, 2017, at 8:46 PM, Ben Wiechman <ben.wiechman(a)ARVIG.COM> wrote: > > To confirm what others have found to be effective. > > Are you advertising community 15169:13000 to the route servers, and on any direct peering sessions with AS36040? > > > Ben Wiechman > Network Engineer IV | Arvig > Direct: 320.256.0184 > Cell: 320.247.3224 > Office: 320.256.7471 > ben.wiechman(a)arvig.com > >> On Fri, Feb 24, 2017 at 3:29 PM, Mike Horwath <drechsau(a)geeks.org> wrote: >> On Fri, Feb 24, 2017 at 10:38:43AM -0600, Andrew Hoyos wrote: >> > > On Feb 24, 2017, at 10:26 AM, Mike Horwath <drechsau(a)Geeks.ORG> wrote: >> > > >> > > On Fri, Feb 24, 2017 at 08:56:33AM -0600, Andrew Hoyos wrote: >> > >> 36040 is a customer of HE.net in MSP, so you'd need to send those to >> > >> HE as well if you peer with them or are a customer. Otherwise they >> > >> will learn your prefixes that way too, sans communities. >> > > >> > > Why is a customer sending other peoples' routes into HE to then go >> > > into the exchange? >> > >> > 36040 is a customer of HE.net. So, HE.net is sending them a full >> > table or some subset (including their peers and customers), as >> > expected. >> >> I misread and now understand. >> >> Thank you! >> >> I had taken it the other way which was making no freakin' sense at all >> in todays world of interconnectivity. >> >> -- >> Mike Horwath, reachable via drechsau(a)Geeks.ORG > > > To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: > http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1

Feb. 25, 2017

Re: Youtube issues

by Ben Wiechman

To confirm what others have found to be effective. Are you advertising community 15169:13000 to the route servers, and on any direct peering sessions with AS36040? Ben Wiechman Network Engineer IV | Arvig Direct: 320.256.0184 Cell: 320.247.3224 Office: 320.256.7471 ben.wiechman(a)arvig.com On Fri, Feb 24, 2017 at 3:29 PM, Mike Horwath <drechsau(a)geeks.org> wrote: > On Fri, Feb 24, 2017 at 10:38:43AM -0600, Andrew Hoyos wrote: > > > On Feb 24, 2017, at 10:26 AM, Mike Horwath <drechsau(a)Geeks.ORG> wrote: > > > > > > On Fri, Feb 24, 2017 at 08:56:33AM -0600, Andrew Hoyos wrote: > > >> 36040 is a customer of HE.net in MSP, so you'd need to send those to > > >> HE as well if you peer with them or are a customer. Otherwise they > > >> will learn your prefixes that way too, sans communities. > > > > > > Why is a customer sending other peoples' routes into HE to then go > > > into the exchange? > > > > 36040 is a customer of HE.net. So, HE.net is sending them a full > > table or some subset (including their peers and customers), as > > expected. > > I misread and now understand. > > Thank you! > > I had taken it the other way which was making no freakin' sense at all > in todays world of interconnectivity. > > -- > Mike Horwath, reachable via drechsau(a)Geeks.ORG >

Feb. 25, 2017

Re: Youtube issues

by Mike Horwath

On Fri, Feb 24, 2017 at 10:38:43AM -0600, Andrew Hoyos wrote: > > On Feb 24, 2017, at 10:26 AM, Mike Horwath <drechsau(a)Geeks.ORG> wrote: > > > > On Fri, Feb 24, 2017 at 08:56:33AM -0600, Andrew Hoyos wrote: > >> 36040 is a customer of HE.net in MSP, so you'd need to send those to > >> HE as well if you peer with them or are a customer. Otherwise they > >> will learn your prefixes that way too, sans communities. > > > > Why is a customer sending other peoples' routes into HE to then go > > into the exchange? > > 36040 is a customer of HE.net. So, HE.net is sending them a full > table or some subset (including their peers and customers), as > expected. I misread and now understand. Thank you! I had taken it the other way which was making no freakin' sense at all in todays world of interconnectivity. -- Mike Horwath, reachable via drechsau(a)Geeks.ORG

Feb. 24, 2017

Re: Youtube issues

by Andrew Hoyos

> On Feb 24, 2017, at 10:26 AM, Mike Horwath <drechsau(a)Geeks.ORG> wrote: > > On Fri, Feb 24, 2017 at 08:56:33AM -0600, Andrew Hoyos wrote: >> 36040 is a customer of HE.net in MSP, so you'd need to send those to >> HE as well if you peer with them or are a customer. Otherwise they >> will learn your prefixes that way too, sans communities. > > Why is a customer sending other peoples' routes into HE to then go > into the exchange? 36040 is a customer of HE.net. So, HE.net is sending them a full table or some subset (including their peers and customers), as expected. In turn, HE.net will advertise to *you*, their customer routes (including 36040, note the _6939_36040 path there), being learned via HE.net 208.117.253.0/24 *[BGP/170] 19:20:53, MED 0, localpref 200 AS path: 6939 36040 I, validation-state: unverified > to 206.108.255.52 via xe-0/0/0.0 Just saying, that if you depeer 36040, or add communities on a bilateral session to them, you’ll need to do the same if peering with HE.net or a customer of HE.net, as 36040 will learn your prefixes from 6939 too.

Feb. 24, 2017