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Re: RFC: Remote Switch in Duluth
by Justin Krejci
This message is one-part "no opposition" to this request as long as standard expectations and policies are adhered to.
This message is also one-part "pulse check" as the list has been rather silent the last few weeks. Hopefully that just means no problems and everyone is busy taking care of their respective business.
________________________________
From: MICE Discuss <MICE-DISCUSS(a)LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET> on behalf of Abhi Devireddy <abhi(a)DEVIREDDY.COM>
Sent: Friday, May 11, 2018 5:30 PM
To: MICE-DISCUSS(a)LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET
Subject: Re: [MICE-DISCUSS] RFC: Remote Switch in Duluth
Good evening,
I represent 2 different networks in different capacities, AS53740 (optbit, personal research and education) and AS3789 (Essentia Health, https://www.essentiahealth.org/about/)
Both networks are based out of Duluth and neither of them are current members of MICE.
A remote switch in Duluth would lower the barrier to entry for a number of organizations that provide regional content and resources.
For AS3789, it would mean providing better access to telehealth resources in a traditionally underserved region where high latencies and low bandwidth have caused slow adoption.
I would be in favor of a remote switch in Duluth.
Thanks,
Abhi
-----Original Message-----
From: MICE Discuss <MICE-DISCUSS(a)LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET> On Behalf Of Richard Laager
Sent: Friday, May 11, 2018 2:52 PM
To: MICE-DISCUSS(a)LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET
Subject: [MICE-DISCUSS] RFC: Remote Switch in Duluth
The following is from Ryan Goldberg of Compudyne:
----
Compudyne/AS47096 is interested in operating a MICE remote switch in Duluth.
We have two 10G paths from 511 to Duluth (one on Charter, one on
Enventis) in a ring of 5 Juniper MX boxes (2 at 511, 3 in Duluth - the 3 in Duluth are interconnected over dark fiber). We hit a little over 5G on 5min averages in total between the two 511<->Duluth legs. Latency is 4-5ms.
We currently participate in MICE via MNVoip's extension, mainly because it makes more overall sense to pick up MICE + SIX + Denver + KC all on one interface (for now). We'd probable leave it like that for a while.
For the proposed extension switch we'd do a two site VPLS config on the MXes, with on a fresh, dedicated 10gig port at 511 and corresponding 10gig port in Duluth. We'd start with an EX4200-24F in Duluth, and run the usual Juniper-y stuff (from http://micemn.net/technical.html)
Initial participants would only be on 1gig ports on the 4200.
As for location, we're currently leaning toward "the Missabe Building"
at 227 W 1st St, Duluth, MN - this is our primary downtown Duluth POP, and aside from our fiber, and there's high-count fiber from at least 5 other carriers in the building. The space has dual AC and is backed by generator power.
Upgrade path is 100G 511<->Duluth, at least on one leg. If business drives it, we'll just do it. Otherwise it's budgeted for next year. As for the switch, we'd move to a ex4550.
----
Without taking any position on this here yet, I'd like to highlight a couple of facts:
The proposed transport is over a VPLS link (i.e. shared with other traffic, not a dedicated wave).
In the past, and quite possibly still, we have had participants connected over shared links, but not entire remote switches.
--
Richard
May 31, 2018
Re: RFC: Remote Switch in Duluth
by Abhi Devireddy
Good evening,
I represent 2 different networks in different capacities, AS53740 (optbit, personal research and education) and AS3789 (Essentia Health, https://www.essentiahealth.org/about/)
Both networks are based out of Duluth and neither of them are current members of MICE.
A remote switch in Duluth would lower the barrier to entry for a number of organizations that provide regional content and resources.
For AS3789, it would mean providing better access to telehealth resources in a traditionally underserved region where high latencies and low bandwidth have caused slow adoption.
I would be in favor of a remote switch in Duluth.
Thanks,
Abhi
-----Original Message-----
From: MICE Discuss <MICE-DISCUSS(a)LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET> On Behalf Of Richard Laager
Sent: Friday, May 11, 2018 2:52 PM
To: MICE-DISCUSS(a)LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET
Subject: [MICE-DISCUSS] RFC: Remote Switch in Duluth
The following is from Ryan Goldberg of Compudyne:
----
Compudyne/AS47096 is interested in operating a MICE remote switch in Duluth.
We have two 10G paths from 511 to Duluth (one on Charter, one on
Enventis) in a ring of 5 Juniper MX boxes (2 at 511, 3 in Duluth – the 3 in Duluth are interconnected over dark fiber). We hit a little over 5G on 5min averages in total between the two 511<->Duluth legs. Latency is 4-5ms.
We currently participate in MICE via MNVoip’s extension, mainly because it makes more overall sense to pick up MICE + SIX + Denver + KC all on one interface (for now). We’d probable leave it like that for a while.
For the proposed extension switch we’d do a two site VPLS config on the MXes, with on a fresh, dedicated 10gig port at 511 and corresponding 10gig port in Duluth. We’d start with an EX4200-24F in Duluth, and run the usual Juniper-y stuff (from http://micemn.net/technical.html)
Initial participants would only be on 1gig ports on the 4200.
As for location, we’re currently leaning toward “the Missabe Building”
at 227 W 1st St, Duluth, MN – this is our primary downtown Duluth POP, and aside from our fiber, and there’s high-count fiber from at least 5 other carriers in the building. The space has dual AC and is backed by generator power.
Upgrade path is 100G 511<->Duluth, at least on one leg. If business drives it, we’ll just do it. Otherwise it’s budgeted for next year. As for the switch, we’d move to a ex4550.
----
Without taking any position on this here yet, I'd like to highlight a couple of facts:
The proposed transport is over a VPLS link (i.e. shared with other traffic, not a dedicated wave).
In the past, and quite possibly still, we have had participants connected over shared links, but not entire remote switches.
--
Richard
May 11, 2018
RFC: Remote Switch in Duluth
by Richard Laager
The following is from Ryan Goldberg of Compudyne:
----
Compudyne/AS47096 is interested in operating a MICE remote switch in Duluth.
We have two 10G paths from 511 to Duluth (one on Charter, one on
Enventis) in a ring of 5 Juniper MX boxes (2 at 511, 3 in Duluth – the 3
in Duluth are interconnected over dark fiber). We hit a little over 5G
on 5min averages in total between the two 511<->Duluth legs. Latency is
4-5ms.
We currently participate in MICE via MNVoip’s extension, mainly because
it makes more overall sense to pick up MICE + SIX + Denver + KC all on
one interface (for now). We’d probable leave it like that for a while.
For the proposed extension switch we’d do a two site VPLS config on the
MXes, with on a fresh, dedicated 10gig port at 511 and corresponding
10gig port in Duluth. We’d start with an EX4200-24F in Duluth, and run
the usual Juniper-y stuff (from http://micemn.net/technical.html)
Initial participants would only be on 1gig ports on the 4200.
As for location, we’re currently leaning toward “the Missabe Building”
at 227 W 1st St, Duluth, MN – this is our primary downtown Duluth POP,
and aside from our fiber, and there’s high-count fiber from at least 5
other carriers in the building. The space has dual AC and is backed by
generator power.
Upgrade path is 100G 511<->Duluth, at least on one leg. If business
drives it, we’ll just do it. Otherwise it’s budgeted for next year. As
for the switch, we’d move to a ex4550.
----
Without taking any position on this here yet, I'd like to highlight a
couple of facts:
The proposed transport is over a VPLS link (i.e. shared with other
traffic, not a dedicated wave).
In the past, and quite possibly still, we have had participants
connected over shared links, but not entire remote switches.
--
Richard
May 11, 2018
Re: Neutral Path link issue between Belle Plaine and MICE
by Jeremy Schmeichel
Splicing complete and NP is hands off for now, I’m sure a permanent repair will be done at a later date.
From: MICE Discuss <MICE-DISCUSS(a)LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET> On Behalf Of Frank Bulk
Sent: Saturday, May 05, 2018 5:35 PM
To: MICE-DISCUSS(a)LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET
Subject: Re: [MICE-DISCUSS] Neutral Path link issue between Belle Plaine and MICE
I’m seeing BGP sessions restored and routes learned!
Frank
From: MICE Discuss <MICE-DISCUSS(a)LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET<mailto:MICE-DISCUSS@LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET>> On Behalf Of Frank Bulk
Sent: Saturday, May 5, 2018 6:27 PM
To: MICE-DISCUSS(a)LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET<mailto:MICE-DISCUSS@LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET>
Subject: Re: [MICE-DISCUSS] Neutral Path link issue between Belle Plaine and MICE
Update received a few minutes ago:
The splice crew is still in the process of installing the new cable. If everything goes according to plan, splicing will begin in about an hour. No ETR at this time, but we will continue to provide updates as they become available.
Frank
From: Frank Bulk
Sent: Saturday, May 5, 2018 4:45 PM
To: 'MICE Discuss' <MICE-DISCUSS(a)LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET<mailto:MICE-DISCUSS@LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET>>
Subject: RE: [MICE-DISCUSS] Neutral Path link issue between Belle Plaine and MICE
Update received a few minutes ago:
The splicing crew is now on site and are beginning to install the new cable. No ETR at this time.
Frank
From: Frank Bulk
Sent: Saturday, May 5, 2018 2:59 PM
To: MICE-DISCUSS(a)LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET<mailto:MICE-DISCUSS@LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET>
Subject: RE: [MICE-DISCUSS] Neutral Path link issue between Belle Plaine and MICE
Last two updates from the NOC:
2:05 pm:
Crews now have cable materials in-hand and should arrive at the site at approximately 3:30 pm central. It is estimated that the cable install will take at least 3.5 hours.
Splicing will follow the install. Once splicing begins, an ETR might be available.
2:45 pm:
Crews with the materials anticipate arriving at site in approximately 30 minutes.
Is this the river crossing?
https://www.google.com/maps/place/44%C2%B037'59.5%22N+93%C2%B045'56.7%22W/@44.6331841,-93.7745168,3083m/data=!3m2!1e3!4b1!4m14!1m7!3m6!1s0x87f5dfb93721879d:0x24b9fe962f7ae1fb!2sBelle+Plaine,+MN!3b1!8m2!3d44.6230409!4d-93.7684042!3m5!1s0x0:0x0!7e2!8m2!3d44.6331854!4d-93.7657624
Frank
From: MICE Discuss <MICE-DISCUSS(a)LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET<mailto:MICE-DISCUSS@LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET>> On Behalf Of James Urwiller
Sent: Saturday, May 5, 2018 1:05 PM
To: MICE-DISCUSS(a)LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET<mailto:MICE-DISCUSS@LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET>
Subject: Re: [MICE-DISCUSS] Neutral Path link issue between Belle Plaine and MICE
☹ indeed. I just got off the phone with them, about an hour ago they determined the fiber across the river is completely compromised and they are working to get a temporary drop across the river to restore services.
James Urwiller
Network Architect
Stealth Broadband
james.urwiller(a)stealthbroadband.com<mailto:james.urwiller@stealthbroadband.com>
[stealth300]
From: MICE Discuss <MICE-DISCUSS(a)LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET<mailto:MICE-DISCUSS@LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET>> On Behalf Of Justin Krejci
Sent: Saturday, May 5, 2018 13:01
To: MICE-DISCUSS(a)LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET<mailto:MICE-DISCUSS@LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET>
Subject: Re: [MICE-DISCUSS] Neutral Path link issue between Belle Plaine and MICE
Also, Neutral Path is now wholly owned by Zayo, FYI.
:(
-----Original Message-----
From: anthonyanderberg(a)nu-telecom.net<mailto:anthonyanderberg@nu-telecom.net> [anthonyanderberg(a)NU-TELECOM.NET<mailto:anthonyanderberg@NU-TELECOM.NET>]
Received: Saturday, 05 May 2018, 11:42AM
To: MICE-DISCUSS(a)LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET<mailto:MICE-DISCUSS@LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET> [MICE-DISCUSS(a)LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET<mailto:MICE-DISCUSS@LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET>]
Subject: Re: [MICE-DISCUSS] Neutral Path link issue between Belle Plaine and MICE
It looked like the river was quite high when I was through Belle Plaine yesterday, if that’s the location of the trouble I bet the crews are having to work around that huge mess.
Sent from my iPhone
On May 5, 2018, at 6:34 AM, Frank Bulk <fbulk(a)MYPREMIERONLINE.COM<mailto:fbulk@MYPREMIERONLINE.COM>> wrote:
I woke up this morning to see emails about our BGP sessions with MICE to be down. Look at alarms and graphs I see that the link from Belle Plaine to MICE is down since about 12:39 am.
According to the NeutralPath NOC (operated by WINS?), something about how a temporary fiber fix for emergency fiber work failed? I wasn’t even aware of any emergency fiber work. The NOC said that a tech was dispatched and he was hoping they would be able to fix it in the next few hours.
Frank
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May 6, 2018
Re: Neutral Path link issue between Belle Plaine and MICE
by Frank Bulk
I’m seeing BGP sessions restored and routes learned!
Frank
From: MICE Discuss <MICE-DISCUSS(a)LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET> On Behalf Of Frank Bulk
Sent: Saturday, May 5, 2018 6:27 PM
To: MICE-DISCUSS(a)LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET
Subject: Re: [MICE-DISCUSS] Neutral Path link issue between Belle Plaine and MICE
Update received a few minutes ago:
The splice crew is still in the process of installing the new cable. If everything goes according to plan, splicing will begin in about an hour. No ETR at this time, but we will continue to provide updates as they become available.
Frank
From: Frank Bulk
Sent: Saturday, May 5, 2018 4:45 PM
To: 'MICE Discuss' <MICE-DISCUSS(a)LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET<mailto:MICE-DISCUSS@LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET>>
Subject: RE: [MICE-DISCUSS] Neutral Path link issue between Belle Plaine and MICE
Update received a few minutes ago:
The splicing crew is now on site and are beginning to install the new cable. No ETR at this time.
Frank
From: Frank Bulk
Sent: Saturday, May 5, 2018 2:59 PM
To: MICE-DISCUSS(a)LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET<mailto:MICE-DISCUSS@LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET>
Subject: RE: [MICE-DISCUSS] Neutral Path link issue between Belle Plaine and MICE
Last two updates from the NOC:
2:05 pm:
Crews now have cable materials in-hand and should arrive at the site at approximately 3:30 pm central. It is estimated that the cable install will take at least 3.5 hours.
Splicing will follow the install. Once splicing begins, an ETR might be available.
2:45 pm:
Crews with the materials anticipate arriving at site in approximately 30 minutes.
Is this the river crossing?
https://www.google.com/maps/place/44%C2%B037'59.5%22N+93%C2%B045'56.7%22W/@44.6331841,-93.7745168,3083m/data=!3m2!1e3!4b1!4m14!1m7!3m6!1s0x87f5dfb93721879d:0x24b9fe962f7ae1fb!2sBelle+Plaine,+MN!3b1!8m2!3d44.6230409!4d-93.7684042!3m5!1s0x0:0x0!7e2!8m2!3d44.6331854!4d-93.7657624
Frank
From: MICE Discuss <MICE-DISCUSS(a)LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET<mailto:MICE-DISCUSS@LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET>> On Behalf Of James Urwiller
Sent: Saturday, May 5, 2018 1:05 PM
To: MICE-DISCUSS(a)LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET<mailto:MICE-DISCUSS@LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET>
Subject: Re: [MICE-DISCUSS] Neutral Path link issue between Belle Plaine and MICE
☹ indeed. I just got off the phone with them, about an hour ago they determined the fiber across the river is completely compromised and they are working to get a temporary drop across the river to restore services.
James Urwiller
Network Architect
Stealth Broadband
james.urwiller(a)stealthbroadband.com<mailto:james.urwiller@stealthbroadband.com>
[stealth300]
From: MICE Discuss <MICE-DISCUSS(a)LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET<mailto:MICE-DISCUSS@LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET>> On Behalf Of Justin Krejci
Sent: Saturday, May 5, 2018 13:01
To: MICE-DISCUSS(a)LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET<mailto:MICE-DISCUSS@LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET>
Subject: Re: [MICE-DISCUSS] Neutral Path link issue between Belle Plaine and MICE
Also, Neutral Path is now wholly owned by Zayo, FYI.
:(
-----Original Message-----
From: anthonyanderberg(a)nu-telecom.net<mailto:anthonyanderberg@nu-telecom.net> [anthonyanderberg(a)NU-TELECOM.NET<mailto:anthonyanderberg@NU-TELECOM.NET>]
Received: Saturday, 05 May 2018, 11:42AM
To: MICE-DISCUSS(a)LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET<mailto:MICE-DISCUSS@LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET> [MICE-DISCUSS(a)LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET<mailto:MICE-DISCUSS@LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET>]
Subject: Re: [MICE-DISCUSS] Neutral Path link issue between Belle Plaine and MICE
It looked like the river was quite high when I was through Belle Plaine yesterday, if that’s the location of the trouble I bet the crews are having to work around that huge mess.
Sent from my iPhone
On May 5, 2018, at 6:34 AM, Frank Bulk <fbulk(a)MYPREMIERONLINE.COM<mailto:fbulk@MYPREMIERONLINE.COM>> wrote:
I woke up this morning to see emails about our BGP sessions with MICE to be down. Look at alarms and graphs I see that the link from Belle Plaine to MICE is down since about 12:39 am.
According to the NeutralPath NOC (operated by WINS?), something about how a temporary fiber fix for emergency fiber work failed? I wasn’t even aware of any emergency fiber work. The NOC said that a tech was dispatched and he was hoping they would be able to fix it in the next few hours.
Frank
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May 5, 2018
Re: Neutral Path link issue between Belle Plaine and MICE
by Frank Bulk
Update received a few minutes ago:
The splice crew is still in the process of installing the new cable. If everything goes according to plan, splicing will begin in about an hour. No ETR at this time, but we will continue to provide updates as they become available.
Frank
From: Frank Bulk
Sent: Saturday, May 5, 2018 4:45 PM
To: 'MICE Discuss' <MICE-DISCUSS(a)LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET>
Subject: RE: [MICE-DISCUSS] Neutral Path link issue between Belle Plaine and MICE
Update received a few minutes ago:
The splicing crew is now on site and are beginning to install the new cable. No ETR at this time.
Frank
From: Frank Bulk
Sent: Saturday, May 5, 2018 2:59 PM
To: MICE-DISCUSS(a)LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET<mailto:MICE-DISCUSS@LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET>
Subject: RE: [MICE-DISCUSS] Neutral Path link issue between Belle Plaine and MICE
Last two updates from the NOC:
2:05 pm:
Crews now have cable materials in-hand and should arrive at the site at approximately 3:30 pm central. It is estimated that the cable install will take at least 3.5 hours.
Splicing will follow the install. Once splicing begins, an ETR might be available.
2:45 pm:
Crews with the materials anticipate arriving at site in approximately 30 minutes.
Is this the river crossing?
https://www.google.com/maps/place/44%C2%B037'59.5%22N+93%C2%B045'56.7%22W/@44.6331841,-93.7745168,3083m/data=!3m2!1e3!4b1!4m14!1m7!3m6!1s0x87f5dfb93721879d:0x24b9fe962f7ae1fb!2sBelle+Plaine,+MN!3b1!8m2!3d44.6230409!4d-93.7684042!3m5!1s0x0:0x0!7e2!8m2!3d44.6331854!4d-93.7657624
Frank
From: MICE Discuss <MICE-DISCUSS(a)LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET<mailto:MICE-DISCUSS@LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET>> On Behalf Of James Urwiller
Sent: Saturday, May 5, 2018 1:05 PM
To: MICE-DISCUSS(a)LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET<mailto:MICE-DISCUSS@LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET>
Subject: Re: [MICE-DISCUSS] Neutral Path link issue between Belle Plaine and MICE
☹ indeed. I just got off the phone with them, about an hour ago they determined the fiber across the river is completely compromised and they are working to get a temporary drop across the river to restore services.
James Urwiller
Network Architect
Stealth Broadband
james.urwiller(a)stealthbroadband.com<mailto:james.urwiller@stealthbroadband.com>
[stealth300]
From: MICE Discuss <MICE-DISCUSS(a)LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET<mailto:MICE-DISCUSS@LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET>> On Behalf Of Justin Krejci
Sent: Saturday, May 5, 2018 13:01
To: MICE-DISCUSS(a)LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET<mailto:MICE-DISCUSS@LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET>
Subject: Re: [MICE-DISCUSS] Neutral Path link issue between Belle Plaine and MICE
Also, Neutral Path is now wholly owned by Zayo, FYI.
:(
-----Original Message-----
From: anthonyanderberg(a)nu-telecom.net<mailto:anthonyanderberg@nu-telecom.net> [anthonyanderberg(a)NU-TELECOM.NET<mailto:anthonyanderberg@NU-TELECOM.NET>]
Received: Saturday, 05 May 2018, 11:42AM
To: MICE-DISCUSS(a)LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET<mailto:MICE-DISCUSS@LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET> [MICE-DISCUSS(a)LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET<mailto:MICE-DISCUSS@LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET>]
Subject: Re: [MICE-DISCUSS] Neutral Path link issue between Belle Plaine and MICE
It looked like the river was quite high when I was through Belle Plaine yesterday, if that’s the location of the trouble I bet the crews are having to work around that huge mess.
Sent from my iPhone
On May 5, 2018, at 6:34 AM, Frank Bulk <fbulk(a)MYPREMIERONLINE.COM<mailto:fbulk@MYPREMIERONLINE.COM>> wrote:
I woke up this morning to see emails about our BGP sessions with MICE to be down. Look at alarms and graphs I see that the link from Belle Plaine to MICE is down since about 12:39 am.
According to the NeutralPath NOC (operated by WINS?), something about how a temporary fiber fix for emergency fiber work failed? I wasn’t even aware of any emergency fiber work. The NOC said that a tech was dispatched and he was hoping they would be able to fix it in the next few hours.
Frank
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Re: Neutral Path link issue between Belle Plaine and MICE
by Frank Bulk
Update received a few minutes ago:
The splicing crew is now on site and are beginning to install the new cable. No ETR at this time.
Frank
From: Frank Bulk
Sent: Saturday, May 5, 2018 2:59 PM
To: MICE-DISCUSS(a)LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET
Subject: RE: [MICE-DISCUSS] Neutral Path link issue between Belle Plaine and MICE
Last two updates from the NOC:
2:05 pm:
Crews now have cable materials in-hand and should arrive at the site at approximately 3:30 pm central. It is estimated that the cable install will take at least 3.5 hours.
Splicing will follow the install. Once splicing begins, an ETR might be available.
2:45 pm:
Crews with the materials anticipate arriving at site in approximately 30 minutes.
Is this the river crossing?
https://www.google.com/maps/place/44%C2%B037'59.5%22N+93%C2%B045'56.7%22W/@44.6331841,-93.7745168,3083m/data=!3m2!1e3!4b1!4m14!1m7!3m6!1s0x87f5dfb93721879d:0x24b9fe962f7ae1fb!2sBelle+Plaine,+MN!3b1!8m2!3d44.6230409!4d-93.7684042!3m5!1s0x0:0x0!7e2!8m2!3d44.6331854!4d-93.7657624
Frank
From: MICE Discuss <MICE-DISCUSS(a)LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET<mailto:MICE-DISCUSS@LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET>> On Behalf Of James Urwiller
Sent: Saturday, May 5, 2018 1:05 PM
To: MICE-DISCUSS(a)LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET<mailto:MICE-DISCUSS@LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET>
Subject: Re: [MICE-DISCUSS] Neutral Path link issue between Belle Plaine and MICE
☹ indeed. I just got off the phone with them, about an hour ago they determined the fiber across the river is completely compromised and they are working to get a temporary drop across the river to restore services.
James Urwiller
Network Architect
Stealth Broadband
james.urwiller(a)stealthbroadband.com<mailto:james.urwiller@stealthbroadband.com>
[stealth300]
From: MICE Discuss <MICE-DISCUSS(a)LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET<mailto:MICE-DISCUSS@LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET>> On Behalf Of Justin Krejci
Sent: Saturday, May 5, 2018 13:01
To: MICE-DISCUSS(a)LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET<mailto:MICE-DISCUSS@LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET>
Subject: Re: [MICE-DISCUSS] Neutral Path link issue between Belle Plaine and MICE
Also, Neutral Path is now wholly owned by Zayo, FYI.
:(
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From: anthonyanderberg(a)nu-telecom.net<mailto:anthonyanderberg@nu-telecom.net> [anthonyanderberg(a)NU-TELECOM.NET<mailto:anthonyanderberg@NU-TELECOM.NET>]
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Subject: Re: [MICE-DISCUSS] Neutral Path link issue between Belle Plaine and MICE
It looked like the river was quite high when I was through Belle Plaine yesterday, if that’s the location of the trouble I bet the crews are having to work around that huge mess.
Sent from my iPhone
On May 5, 2018, at 6:34 AM, Frank Bulk <fbulk(a)MYPREMIERONLINE.COM<mailto:fbulk@MYPREMIERONLINE.COM>> wrote:
I woke up this morning to see emails about our BGP sessions with MICE to be down. Look at alarms and graphs I see that the link from Belle Plaine to MICE is down since about 12:39 am.
According to the NeutralPath NOC (operated by WINS?), something about how a temporary fiber fix for emergency fiber work failed? I wasn’t even aware of any emergency fiber work. The NOC said that a tech was dispatched and he was hoping they would be able to fix it in the next few hours.
Frank
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Re: Neutral Path link issue between Belle Plaine and MICE
by Frank Bulk
Last two updates from the NOC:
2:05 pm:
Crews now have cable materials in-hand and should arrive at the site at approximately 3:30 pm central. It is estimated that the cable install will take at least 3.5 hours.
Splicing will follow the install. Once splicing begins, an ETR might be available.
2:45 pm:
Crews with the materials anticipate arriving at site in approximately 30 minutes.
Is this the river crossing?
https://www.google.com/maps/place/44%C2%B037'59.5%22N+93%C2%B045'56.7%22W/@44.6331841,-93.7745168,3083m/data=!3m2!1e3!4b1!4m14!1m7!3m6!1s0x87f5dfb93721879d:0x24b9fe962f7ae1fb!2sBelle+Plaine,+MN!3b1!8m2!3d44.6230409!4d-93.7684042!3m5!1s0x0:0x0!7e2!8m2!3d44.6331854!4d-93.7657624
Frank
From: MICE Discuss <MICE-DISCUSS(a)LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET> On Behalf Of James Urwiller
Sent: Saturday, May 5, 2018 1:05 PM
To: MICE-DISCUSS(a)LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET
Subject: Re: [MICE-DISCUSS] Neutral Path link issue between Belle Plaine and MICE
☹ indeed. I just got off the phone with them, about an hour ago they determined the fiber across the river is completely compromised and they are working to get a temporary drop across the river to restore services.
James Urwiller
Network Architect
Stealth Broadband
james.urwiller(a)stealthbroadband.com<mailto:james.urwiller@stealthbroadband.com>
[stealth300]
From: MICE Discuss <MICE-DISCUSS(a)LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET<mailto:MICE-DISCUSS@LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET>> On Behalf Of Justin Krejci
Sent: Saturday, May 5, 2018 13:01
To: MICE-DISCUSS(a)LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET<mailto:MICE-DISCUSS@LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET>
Subject: Re: [MICE-DISCUSS] Neutral Path link issue between Belle Plaine and MICE
Also, Neutral Path is now wholly owned by Zayo, FYI.
:(
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From: anthonyanderberg(a)nu-telecom.net<mailto:anthonyanderberg@nu-telecom.net> [anthonyanderberg(a)NU-TELECOM.NET<mailto:anthonyanderberg@NU-TELECOM.NET>]
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Subject: Re: [MICE-DISCUSS] Neutral Path link issue between Belle Plaine and MICE
It looked like the river was quite high when I was through Belle Plaine yesterday, if that’s the location of the trouble I bet the crews are having to work around that huge mess.
Sent from my iPhone
On May 5, 2018, at 6:34 AM, Frank Bulk <fbulk(a)MYPREMIERONLINE.COM<mailto:fbulk@MYPREMIERONLINE.COM>> wrote:
I woke up this morning to see emails about our BGP sessions with MICE to be down. Look at alarms and graphs I see that the link from Belle Plaine to MICE is down since about 12:39 am.
According to the NeutralPath NOC (operated by WINS?), something about how a temporary fiber fix for emergency fiber work failed? I wasn’t even aware of any emergency fiber work. The NOC said that a tech was dispatched and he was hoping they would be able to fix it in the next few hours.
Frank
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May 5, 2018
Re: Neutral Path link issue between Belle Plaine and MICE
by Frank Bulk
Fortunately, the NeutralPath NOC (operated by WINS) is still operating and not yet subsumed by Zayo.
Last work from NOC:
The original fiber bundle only had 10 functional fibers, so a temporary cable is being installed as of approximately 11:30 am central. After the install, splicing will occur which should then restore your service. No ETR is available yet.
Frank
From: MICE Discuss <MICE-DISCUSS(a)LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET> On Behalf Of Justin Krejci
Sent: Saturday, May 5, 2018 1:01 PM
To: MICE-DISCUSS(a)LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET
Subject: Re: [MICE-DISCUSS] Neutral Path link issue between Belle Plaine and MICE
Also, Neutral Path is now wholly owned by Zayo, FYI.
:(
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Received: Saturday, 05 May 2018, 11:42AM
To: MICE-DISCUSS(a)LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET<mailto:MICE-DISCUSS@LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET> [MICE-DISCUSS(a)LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET]
Subject: Re: [MICE-DISCUSS] Neutral Path link issue between Belle Plaine and MICE
It looked like the river was quite high when I was through Belle Plaine yesterday, if that's the location of the trouble I bet the crews are having to work around that huge mess.
Sent from my iPhone
On May 5, 2018, at 6:34 AM, Frank Bulk <fbulk(a)MYPREMIERONLINE.COM<mailto:fbulk@MYPREMIERONLINE.COM>> wrote:
I woke up this morning to see emails about our BGP sessions with MICE to be down. Look at alarms and graphs I see that the link from Belle Plaine to MICE is down since about 12:39 am.
According to the NeutralPath NOC (operated by WINS?), something about how a temporary fiber fix for emergency fiber work failed? I wasn't even aware of any emergency fiber work. The NOC said that a tech was dispatched and he was hoping they would be able to fix it in the next few hours.
Frank
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May 5, 2018
Re: Neutral Path link issue between Belle Plaine and MICE
by James Urwiller
☹ indeed. I just got off the phone with them, about an hour ago they
determined the fiber across the river is completely compromised and they
are working to get a temporary drop across the river to restore services.
James Urwiller
Network Architect
Stealth Broadband
james.urwiller(a)stealthbroadband.com
[image: stealth300]
*From:* MICE Discuss <MICE-DISCUSS(a)LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET> *On Behalf Of *Justin
Krejci
*Sent:* Saturday, May 5, 2018 13:01
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*Subject:* Re: [MICE-DISCUSS] Neutral Path link issue between Belle Plaine
and MICE
Also, Neutral Path is now wholly owned by Zayo, FYI.
:(
-----Original Message-----
*From:* anthonyanderberg(a)nu-telecom.net [anthonyanderberg(a)NU-TELECOM.NET]
*Received:* Saturday, 05 May 2018, 11:42AM
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*Subject:* Re: [MICE-DISCUSS] Neutral Path link issue between Belle Plaine
and MICE
It looked like the river was quite high when I was through Belle Plaine
yesterday, if that’s the location of the trouble I bet the crews are having
to work around that huge mess.
Sent from my iPhone
On May 5, 2018, at 6:34 AM, Frank Bulk <fbulk(a)MYPREMIERONLINE.COM> wrote:
I woke up this morning to see emails about our BGP sessions with MICE to be
down. Look at alarms and graphs I see that the link from Belle Plaine to
MICE is down since about 12:39 am.
According to the NeutralPath NOC (operated by WINS?), something about how a
temporary fiber fix for emergency fiber work failed? I wasn’t even aware
of any emergency fiber work. The NOC said that a tech was dispatched and
he was hoping they would be able to fix it in the next few hours.
Frank
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