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Re: v6 on rs1/rs2 fubar?

by Jay Hanke

I have a ticket open with HE asking for filters. HE#6787436 On Fri, Oct 24, 2025 at 8:51 AM Michael Hare via mice-discuss <mice-discuss(a)lists.micemn.net> wrote: > > I don't want to jeopardize the IX, but I'm game for whatever people are comfortable with. > > Cool story, as of writing, there is an event going on =right now= for 139.64.160.0/22 since roughly 01:04 local > > -Michael > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Mike Horwath <drechsau(a)geeks.org> > > Sent: Friday, October 24, 2025 8:40 AM > > To: Richard Laager <rlaager(a)wiktel.com> > > Cc: mice-discuss(a)lists.micemn.net > > Subject: Re: v6 on rs1/rs2 fubar? > > > > On Thu, Oct 23, 2025 at 05:50:22PM -0500, Richard Laager via mice-discuss > > wrote: > > > MICE is running Ubuntu 22.04, which has BIRD 2.0.8. In a few months, we > > can > > > upgrade to 26.04 when it comes out, which will have at least BIRD 2.17.1 > > > (which is the current release right now). > > > > why not just do-release-upgrade to 24.04 and snag the newerver version > > that way? > > > > > I could attempt to rebuild the BIRD 2.17.1 package on Ubuntu 22.04. Then > > we > > > could see if that helps. > > > > This is not the devops way, baby! > > > > -- > > Mike Horwath, reachable via drechsau(a)Geeks.ORG > > _______________________________________________ > > mice-discuss mailing list -- mice-discuss(a)lists.micemn.net > > To unsubscribe send an email to mice-discuss-leave(a)lists.micemn.net > _______________________________________________ > mice-discuss mailing list -- mice-discuss(a)lists.micemn.net > To unsubscribe send an email to mice-discuss-leave(a)lists.micemn.net

Oct. 24, 2025

RE: v6 on rs1/rs2 fubar?

by Michael Hare

I don't want to jeopardize the IX, but I'm game for whatever people are comfortable with. Cool story, as of writing, there is an event going on =right now= for 139.64.160.0/22 since roughly 01:04 local -Michael > -----Original Message----- > From: Mike Horwath <drechsau(a)geeks.org> > Sent: Friday, October 24, 2025 8:40 AM > To: Richard Laager <rlaager(a)wiktel.com> > Cc: mice-discuss(a)lists.micemn.net > Subject: Re: v6 on rs1/rs2 fubar? > > On Thu, Oct 23, 2025 at 05:50:22PM -0500, Richard Laager via mice-discuss > wrote: > > MICE is running Ubuntu 22.04, which has BIRD 2.0.8. In a few months, we > can > > upgrade to 26.04 when it comes out, which will have at least BIRD 2.17.1 > > (which is the current release right now). > > why not just do-release-upgrade to 24.04 and snag the newerver version > that way? > > > I could attempt to rebuild the BIRD 2.17.1 package on Ubuntu 22.04. Then > we > > could see if that helps. > > This is not the devops way, baby! > > -- > Mike Horwath, reachable via drechsau(a)Geeks.ORG > _______________________________________________ > mice-discuss mailing list -- mice-discuss(a)lists.micemn.net > To unsubscribe send an email to mice-discuss-leave(a)lists.micemn.net

Oct. 24, 2025

Re: v6 on rs1/rs2 fubar?

by Mike Horwath

On Thu, Oct 23, 2025 at 05:50:22PM -0500, Richard Laager via mice-discuss wrote: > MICE is running Ubuntu 22.04, which has BIRD 2.0.8. In a few months, we can > upgrade to 26.04 when it comes out, which will have at least BIRD 2.17.1 > (which is the current release right now). why not just do-release-upgrade to 24.04 and snag the newerver version that way? > I could attempt to rebuild the BIRD 2.17.1 package on Ubuntu 22.04. Then we > could see if that helps. This is not the devops way, baby! -- Mike Horwath, reachable via drechsau(a)Geeks.ORG

Oct. 24, 2025

RE: v6 on rs1/rs2 fubar?

by Frank Bulk

Thanks, really appreciate it. Frank [cid:a1ff5d57-4afc-4ec0-be61-51708bf94a4e.png] Frank Bulk Chief Technology Officer / Chief Operating Officer [cid:premiercomm_logo_cmyk_1388ffcb-8ec0-4842-9e40-a0e598482e7d.png] 339 1st Ave NE | Sioux Center, IA 51250 | Find us on Facebook<https://www.facebook.com/PremierCommunicationsSiouxCenter> phone: 712.722.3451 web: mypremieronline.com<https://www.mypremieronline.com/> direct: (712) 722-7152 cell: (712) 441-6049 From: Richard Laager via mice-discuss <mice-discuss(a)lists.micemn.net> Sent: Thursday, October 23, 2025 9:42 PM To: mice-discuss(a)lists.micemn.net Subject: Re: v6 on rs1/rs2 fubar? I've built 2.17.1 for 22.04. I'm thinking we'll upgrade BIRD on rs2 tomorrow noon-ish, and apply regular updates while we are at it. It might help with the timeouts we are seeing there. Regardless, as long as it's not worse, then next week (tentatively Monday), we can upgrade BIRD on rs1. -- Richard

Oct. 24, 2025

RE: Anyone else seeing instability to MICE route reflector #2

by Frank Bulk

We’re doing 10/30 against the two route servers. Frank [cid:premiercomm_logo_cmyk_thick_4b24da0e-a829-42f3-ba49-f303951df775.png] Frank Bulk Chief Technology Officer / Chief Operating Officer From: Richard Laager <rlaager(a)micemn.net> Sent: Wednesday, October 15, 2025 4:33 PM To: mice-discuss(a)lists.micemn.net Subject: Re: Anyone else seeing instability to MICE route reflector #2 What do you have for hold timers? And is it the same for both route servers? rs2 is proposing 240 seconds, if I'm reading this packet capture correctly. -- Richard Laager Chief Manager, Director Midwest Internet Cooperative Exchange LLC

Oct. 24, 2025

Re: v6 on rs1/rs2 fubar?

by Richard Laager

I've built 2.17.1 for 22.04. I'm thinking we'll upgrade BIRD on rs2 tomorrow noon-ish, and apply regular updates while we are at it. It might help with the timeouts we are seeing there. Regardless, as long as it's not worse, then next week (tentatively Monday), we can upgrade BIRD on rs1. -- Richard

Oct. 24, 2025

RE: v6 on rs1/rs2 fubar?

by Michael Hare

JTAC pointed me to TSB76599. It’s behind a login, so while I won’t copy/paste the entire PDF, in summary: “The following Junos and Junos Evolved software releases are now fully compliant with RFC7606” 22.4R3, 22.4R3-EVO, and subsequent releases 23.2R2, 23.2R2-EVO, and subsequent releases 23.4R1, 23.4R1-EVO, and subsequent releases 24.1R1, 24.1R1-EVO, and all subsequent releases -Michael From: David Farmer via mice-discuss <mice-discuss(a)lists.micemn.net> Sent: Thursday, October 23, 2025 6:31 PM To: Justin Krejci <JKrejci(a)usinternet.com> Cc: mice-discuss(a)lists.micemn.net; rlaager(a)wiktel.com Subject: Re: v6 on rs1/rs2 fubar? According to the NA-IX Slack BIRD 2.17.1. fixes the issue, or at least doesn't propagate it. Thanks On Thu, Oct 23, 2025 at 6:23 PM Justin Krejci <JKrejci(a)usinternet.com<mailto:JKrejci@usinternet.com>> wrote: As a point of comparison Ubuntu 24.04 LTS includes bird 2.14 in the default system packages, perhaps that will be sufficiently bug-fixed and is already very accessible to achieve with a simple upgrade to 24.04. FWIW, I have done the upgrade from 22.04 to 24.04 many times, all without issue <include typical ymmv disclaimer here> -----Original Message----- From: Richard Laager via mice-discuss <mice-discuss(a)lists.micemn.net<mailto:Richard%20Laager%20via%20mice-discuss%20%3cmice-discuss@lists.micemn.net%3e>> Reply-To: Richard Laager <rlaager(a)wiktel.com<mailto:Richard%20Laager%20%3crlaager@wiktel.com%3e>> To: mice-discuss(a)lists.micemn.net<mailto:mice-discuss@lists.micemn.net> Subject: Re: v6 on rs1/rs2 fubar? Date: Thu, 23 Oct 2025 17:50:22 -0500 IXP Manager does not yet support BIRD 3. They don't feel it is production ready. They suggested that maybe our issues would be fixed on newer BIRD 2. MICE is running Ubuntu 22.04, which has BIRD 2.0.8. In a few months, we can upgrade to 26.04 when it comes out, which will have at least BIRD 2.17.1 (which is the current release right now). I could attempt to rebuild the BIRD 2.17.1 package on Ubuntu 22.04. Then we could see if that helps. _______________________________________________ mice-discuss mailing list -- mice-discuss(a)lists.micemn.net<mailto:mice-discuss@lists.micemn.net> To unsubscribe send an email to mice-discuss-leave(a)lists.micemn.net<mailto:mice-discuss-leave@lists.micemn.net> -- =============================================== David Farmer Email:farmer@umn.edu<mailto:Email%3Afarmer@umn.edu> Networking & Telecommunication Services Office of Information Technology University of Minnesota 2218 University Ave SE Phone: 612-626-0815 Minneapolis, MN 55414-3029 Cell: 612-812-9952 ===============================================

Oct. 24, 2025

Re: v6 on rs1/rs2 fubar?

by David Farmer

According to the NA-IX Slack BIRD 2.17.1. fixes the issue, or at least doesn't propagate it. Thanks On Thu, Oct 23, 2025 at 6:23 PM Justin Krejci <JKrejci(a)usinternet.com> wrote: > As a point of comparison Ubuntu 24.04 LTS includes bird 2.14 in the > default system packages, perhaps that will be sufficiently bug-fixed and is > already very accessible to achieve with a simple upgrade to 24.04. > > FWIW, I have done the upgrade from 22.04 to 24.04 many times, all without > issue <include typical ymmv disclaimer here> > > > > -----Original Message----- > *From*: Richard Laager via mice-discuss <mice-discuss(a)lists.micemn.net > <Richard%20Laager%20via%20mice-discuss%20%3cmice-discuss(a)lists.micemn.net%3e> > > > *Reply-To*: Richard Laager <rlaager(a)wiktel.com > <Richard%20Laager%20%3crlaager(a)wiktel.com%3e>> > *To*: mice-discuss(a)lists.micemn.net > *Subject*: Re: v6 on rs1/rs2 fubar? > *Date*: Thu, 23 Oct 2025 17:50:22 -0500 > > IXP Manager does not yet support BIRD 3. They don't feel it is > production ready. > > They suggested that maybe our issues would be fixed on newer BIRD 2. > > MICE is running Ubuntu 22.04, which has BIRD 2.0.8. In a few months, we > can upgrade to 26.04 when it comes out, which will have at least BIRD > 2.17.1 (which is the current release right now). > > I could attempt to rebuild the BIRD 2.17.1 package on Ubuntu 22.04. Then > we could see if that helps. > > _______________________________________________ > mice-discuss mailing list -- mice-discuss(a)lists.micemn.net > To unsubscribe send an email to mice-discuss-leave(a)lists.micemn.net > -- =============================================== David Farmer Email:farmer@umn.edu Networking & Telecommunication Services Office of Information Technology University of Minnesota 2218 University Ave SE Phone: 612-626-0815 Minneapolis, MN 55414-3029 Cell: 612-812-9952 ===============================================

Oct. 23, 2025

Re: v6 on rs1/rs2 fubar?

by Justin Krejci

As a point of comparison Ubuntu 24.04 LTS includes bird 2.14 in the default system packages, perhaps that will be sufficiently bug-fixed and is already very accessible to achieve with a simple upgrade to 24.04. FWIW, I have done the upgrade from 22.04 to 24.04 many times, all without issue <include typical ymmv disclaimer here> -----Original Message----- From: Richard Laager via mice-discuss <mice-discuss(a)lists.micemn.net<mailto:Richard%20Laager%20via%20mice-discuss%20%3cmice-discuss@lists.micemn.net%3e>> Reply-To: Richard Laager <rlaager(a)wiktel.com<mailto:Richard%20Laager%20%3crlaager@wiktel.com%3e>> To: mice-discuss(a)lists.micemn.net<mailto:mice-discuss@lists.micemn.net> Subject: Re: v6 on rs1/rs2 fubar? Date: Thu, 23 Oct 2025 17:50:22 -0500 IXP Manager does not yet support BIRD 3. They don't feel it is production ready. They suggested that maybe our issues would be fixed on newer BIRD 2. MICE is running Ubuntu 22.04, which has BIRD 2.0.8. In a few months, we can upgrade to 26.04 when it comes out, which will have at least BIRD 2.17.1 (which is the current release right now). I could attempt to rebuild the BIRD 2.17.1 package on Ubuntu 22.04. Then we could see if that helps.

Oct. 23, 2025

Re: v6 on rs1/rs2 fubar?

by Richard Laager

IXP Manager does not yet support BIRD 3. They don't feel it is production ready. They suggested that maybe our issues would be fixed on newer BIRD 2. MICE is running Ubuntu 22.04, which has BIRD 2.0.8. In a few months, we can upgrade to 26.04 when it comes out, which will have at least BIRD 2.17.1 (which is the current release right now). I could attempt to rebuild the BIRD 2.17.1 package on Ubuntu 22.04. Then we could see if that helps. -- Richard

Oct. 23, 2025