March 2022 - mice-discuss - lists.micemn.net

icmp v6 nd storm ~ 00:58:01 2022/03/18 GMT?

by Michael Hare

I presume I wasn't the only one that felt the arp/nd storm that began ~ 00:58:01 2022/03/18 GMT? Event stopped for us by 01:03:02. I don't have info about mac addrs but our peering device reported 20kpps of icmp neighbor discovery. -Michael [AS3128]

March 18, 2022

Re: MICE Social (Now with Amazon)

by Jeffrey Anderson

I will definitely stop by. Put me down for 1! Thanks Richard. Jeffrey (Sparky) Anderson Implex.net Senior Network Engineer USCG Masters Licensed Captain USCG AUX ADSO-DV / VFC Point of Contact: Mobile: 612-799-7277 From: MICE Discuss <MICE-DISCUSS(a)LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET> On Behalf Of Richard Laager Sent: Tuesday, March 15, 2022 4:02 PM To: MICE-DISCUSS(a)LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET Subject: Re: [MICE-DISCUSS] MICE Social (Now with Amazon) Amazon has graciously agreed to host. They're interested to meet people from the MICE community. If you have questions for Amazon, especially about Thursday Night Football, please join us. Where: Hell's Kitchen, 80 S 9th St, Minneapolis https://www.hellskitcheninc.com When: Wednesday 6:45 PM Please RSVP to me so we know if we need to increase the reservation size. -- Richard ________________________________ To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1

March 16, 2022

Re: MICE Social (Now with Amazon)

by Richard Laager

Amazon has graciously agreed to host. They're interested to meet people from the MICE community. If you have questions for Amazon, especially about Thursday Night Football, please join us. Where: Hell's Kitchen, 80 S 9th St, Minneapolis https://www.hellskitcheninc.com When: Wednesday 6:45 PM Please RSVP to me so we know if we need to increase the reservation size. -- Richard

March 15, 2022

Re: Board Minutes

by AnthonyAnderberg＠nuvera.net

This seems reasonable - going forward I’ll take notes when the board meets and will post them here. Of course there will occasionally be topics that I’d need to be opaque about, hopefully everyone trusts our judgement in that regard. Cheers, Anthony From: MICE Discuss <MICE-DISCUSS(a)LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET> on behalf of Dean Bahls <dean.bahls(a)COOPERATIVE-NETWORKS.COM> Organization: Fiber Minnesota Reply-To: MICE Discuss <MICE-DISCUSS(a)LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET> Date: Saturday, March 12, 2022 at 12:55 PM To: MICE Discuss <MICE-DISCUSS(a)LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET> Subject: Re: [MICE-DISCUSS] Board Minutes I’m going to chime in on this as well. I think it is reasonable to ask someone participating in those meetings to keep a summary of what is being discussed. It does not have to be overly detailed, making it burdensome, but it is the right thing to do. In fact, I think the bylaws make a few references regarding minutes or records taken in Board of Governors meetings. From: MICE Discuss <MICE-DISCUSS(a)LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET> On Behalf Of Steve Howard Sent: Saturday, March 12, 2022 8:57 AM To: MICE-DISCUSS(a)LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET Subject: Re: [MICE-DISCUSS] Board Minutes I agree with Jeremy. Lets at least get some type of brief summary information about decisions made by the board included at the UG meetings. I think most Minnesotans like to believe that there is somewhat open governance in the state. Even though it doesn't apply to MICE, I suspect that Minnesota's Open Meeting law has created that perception. I don't think it is unreasonable to keep members informed about what MICE related topics are being discussed, challenges faced by the organization, and the decisions made at the board level. n 3/11/22 20:08, Jeremy Lumby wrote: While I can understand that formal minutes may imply too much detail/work, there needs to be a middle ground so that the members can see how the people they elected to represent them are doing so. I am open to suggestions. It could be something as simple as Topic X was discussed, and will be continued at another time, or Topic Y was discussed, and the final (summary) opinion of each board member is… Having this final outcome in mind might actually help get the conversation towards an outcome so that things do not go around in circles for 3 hours. Alternate suggestions are welcomed. Jeremy From: MICE Discuss [mailto:MICE-DISCUSS@LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET] On Behalf Of Reid Fishler Sent: Friday, March 11, 2022 7:27 PM To: MICE-DISCUSS(a)LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET<mailto:MICE-DISCUSS@LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET> Subject: Re: [MICE-DISCUSS] Board Minutes Board meetings are just not always formal...having to have minutes of them would be difficult. We had a 3 hour long conference call about things a week ago...if we had to keep minutes on that, it would have been a nightmare. Reid On Fri, Mar 11, 2022 at 8:22 PM Jeremy Lumby <jlumby(a)mnvoip.com<mailto:jlumby@mnvoip.com>> wrote: Since we did not have much open discussion time at the end of today's meeting, I wanted to propose a change for the procedure that the board follows. I propose that the board start taking, and publishing minutes from board meetings. This would allow the membership to see how the board members were voting/representing their interests. It would also be invaluable information for the voting members to have in the event that we ever had a contested election again. Jeremy Lumby Minnesota VoIP 9217 17th Ave S #216 Bloomington, MN 55425 M: 612-355-7740 D: 612-392-6814 F: 952-873-7425 jlumby(a)mnvoip.com<mailto:jlumby@mnvoip.com> -- Reid Fishler Senior Director Hurricane Electric +1-510-580-4178 ________________________________ To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1 ________________________________ To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1 ________________________________ To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1 ________________________________ To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1

March 15, 2022

MICE Social

by Richard Laager

With the meeting reschedule, we kinda tossed around the idea of a MICE Social. I’d imagine this would be going out to supper, similar to how we do after in person meetings. Is anyone interested in getting together tomorrow (Wednesday)? I am at the Hyatt Regency for MTA, but am open to various locations. -- Richard

March 15, 2022

Re: MICE marketing

by AnthonyAnderberg＠nuvera.net

IXP access is the best solution, but I’ve also added average values to the aggregate graphs for good measure. Thanks everyone, anthony From: MICE Discuss <MICE-DISCUSS(a)LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET> on behalf of Jay Hanke <jayhanke(a)SOUTHFRONT.IO> Reply-To: MICE Discuss <MICE-DISCUSS(a)LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET> Date: Saturday, March 12, 2022 at 7:45 AM To: MICE Discuss <MICE-DISCUSS(a)LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET> Subject: Re: [MICE-DISCUSS] MICE marketing I think this is just a matter of giving access to the api in ixp manager. I will take a look and follow up with pch. On Fri, Mar 11, 2022, 11:01 PM Richard Laager <rlaager(a)wiktel.com<mailto:rlaager@wiktel.com>> wrote: We are in the process of converting to IXP Manager. Will that provide the data you need? If so, then it’s not likely worth fiddling with much more now. If IXP Manager won’t provide the data, then it sounds like we should add the average to the graph? -- Richard > On Mar 11, 2022, at 22:50, Bill Woodcock <woody(a)pch.net<mailto:woody@pch.net>> wrote: > > > >> On Mar 12, 2022, at 3:53 AM, Richard Laager <rlaager(a)wiktel.com<mailto:rlaager@wiktel.com>> wrote: >> >> https://www.pch.net/ixp/dir lists "Midwest Internet Cooperative Exchange" as having an average of 1K of traffic. > > Ah, you changed your traffic graph URL. I’ve updated to your new URL, and the new numbers should be reflected immediately. Also, the graph you produce doesn’t show your average (which is the only economically-significant number), and we’re in the process of rewriting our code (which broke) that calculates average values from graph bitmaps, and if you’re making your raw data available, we don’t have a URL for it… Everything goes smoothest when we can pull raw data rather than scraping from the bitmap. With 800 IXPs to collect data from every day, the ones that are fully automated scale well, but the ones that require a human being to go do something don’t scale well for us, since we’re only about twenty people. > > -Bill > ________________________________ To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1

March 15, 2022

Re: MICE marketing

by Jay Hanke

It's updated on PCH to pull from the MICE IXP Manager. On Fri, Mar 11, 2022 at 9:12 PM Richard Laager <rlaager(a)wiktel.com> wrote: > I emailed Bill Woodcock at PCH. Hopefully PCH can update that. > > On 3/11/22 16:04, Miles McCredie wrote: > > One other comment on the marketing side – It would be handy to have PCH > update > https://www.pch.net/ixp/dir#!mt-filters=%7B%22ctry%22%3A%5B%22dropdown%22%2… > . > > > > I received a snarky comment from someone about the 1Kbps average traffic > that they are showing. > > > > > > *Miles McCredie * > Network Engineer - Architect > > Office: 6052755192 > Miles.McCredie(a)midco.com > > *Midco.com* > > > > ------------------------------ > > To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: > http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1 > > > -- > Richard > > > ------------------------------ > > To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: > http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1 > -- Jay Hanke, President South Front Networks jayhanke(a)southfront.io Phone 612-204-0000

March 14, 2022

Re: Please welcome StackPath to MICE!

by Doug McIntyre

On Fri, Mar 11, 2022 at 06:00:00PM -0600, Jeremy Lumby wrote: >Name: StackPath >Switch: MICE Core >Port: 3/27/1 -> Po21 & 6/20/1 -> Po25 >ASN: 33438 >IPv4: 206.108.255.189/24 & 206.108.255.190/24 >IPv6: 2001:504:27:0:0:829E::1/64 & 2001:504:27:0:0:829E::2/64 >Peering Contact: peering(a)stackpath.com >Route Servers: YES >BFD: No I've added them to the RR's, so they should be all set. Welcome!

March 12, 2022

Re: Board Minutes

by Dean Bahls

I’m going to chime in on this as well. I think it is reasonable to ask someone participating in those meetings to keep a summary of what is being discussed. It does not have to be overly detailed, making it burdensome, but it is the right thing to do. In fact, I think the bylaws make a few references regarding minutes or records taken in Board of Governors meetings. From: MICE Discuss <MICE-DISCUSS(a)LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET> On Behalf Of Steve Howard Sent: Saturday, March 12, 2022 8:57 AM To: MICE-DISCUSS(a)LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET Subject: Re: [MICE-DISCUSS] Board Minutes I agree with Jeremy. Lets at least get some type of brief summary information about decisions made by the board included at the UG meetings. I think most Minnesotans like to believe that there is somewhat open governance in the state. Even though it doesn't apply to MICE, I suspect that Minnesota's Open Meeting law has created that perception. I don't think it is unreasonable to keep members informed about what MICE related topics are being discussed, challenges faced by the organization, and the decisions made at the board level. n 3/11/22 20:08, Jeremy Lumby wrote: While I can understand that formal minutes may imply too much detail/work, there needs to be a middle ground so that the members can see how the people they elected to represent them are doing so. I am open to suggestions. It could be something as simple as Topic X was discussed, and will be continued at another time, or Topic Y was discussed, and the final (summary) opinion of each board member is… Having this final outcome in mind might actually help get the conversation towards an outcome so that things do not go around in circles for 3 hours. Alternate suggestions are welcomed. Jeremy From: MICE Discuss [mailto:MICE-DISCUSS@LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET] On Behalf Of Reid Fishler Sent: Friday, March 11, 2022 7:27 PM To: MICE-DISCUSS(a)LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET <mailto:MICE-DISCUSS@LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET> Subject: Re: [MICE-DISCUSS] Board Minutes Board meetings are just not always formal...having to have minutes of them would be difficult. We had a 3 hour long conference call about things a week ago...if we had to keep minutes on that, it would have been a nightmare. Reid On Fri, Mar 11, 2022 at 8:22 PM Jeremy Lumby <jlumby(a)mnvoip.com <mailto:jlumby@mnvoip.com> > wrote: Since we did not have much open discussion time at the end of today's meeting, I wanted to propose a change for the procedure that the board follows. I propose that the board start taking, and publishing minutes from board meetings. This would allow the membership to see how the board members were voting/representing their interests. It would also be invaluable information for the voting members to have in the event that we ever had a contested election again. Jeremy Lumby Minnesota VoIP 9217 17th Ave S #216 Bloomington, MN 55425 M: 612-355-7740 D: 612-392-6814 F: 952-873-7425 jlumby(a)mnvoip.com <mailto:jlumby@mnvoip.com> -- Reid Fishler Senior Director Hurricane Electric +1-510-580-4178 _____ To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS <http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1> &A=1 _____ To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS <http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1> &A=1 _____ To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS <http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1> &A=1

March 12, 2022

Re: Board Minutes

by Steve Howard

March 12, 2022