January 2019 - mice-discuss - lists.micemn.net

Re: Youtube/Google

by Jeremy Lumby

I received in initial reply where they insisted everything was normal. I pushed back, and it has now been escalated. From: MICE Discuss [mailto:MICE-DISCUSS@LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET] On Behalf Of Mike Wilker Sent: Tuesday, January 29, 2019 6:17 PM To: MICE-DISCUSS(a)LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET Subject: Re: [MICE-DISCUSS] Youtube/Google We are seeing some issues with content from this node as well. Even with our BGP disabled to MICE, the report mapping still returns google-msp5. Has anyone heard anything from Google? Thank You, Mike Wilker CTO ( Office: (507) 214-0259 - Email: mwilker(a)jagcom.net www.JagCom.net 213 South Oak Avenue Owatonna, MN 55060 On Tue, Jan 29, 2019 at 2:46 PM Ben Franske <ben.lists(a)franske.com> wrote: For what it's worth I'm seeing: 134.29.182.41 => google-msp5 : superx_isp_number: 26 (134.29.128.0/18) 2607:f930:1c00:110:c8fb:2c4b:69fc:5483 => google-msp5 : superx_isp_number: 26 (2607:f930::/32) [u] On the MinnState network which is MICE connected via NorthernLights GigaPoP. -Ben On 1/29/2019 1:56 PM, Jeremy Lumby wrote: I get super ISP ON KCIX as well. I am not sure what it means. I know that Google has different types of Caches, possibly it is cache type specific: 2602:ffaa:0:7:84a0:c17a:a6f6:d7a4 => google-mci2 : superx_isp_number: 3 (2602:ffaa::/36) I gave seen Google continue to send youtube traffic to a router that went down for over 24 hours after BGP went down. Google does have an internal ticket number on the problem. From: MICE Discuss [mailto:MICE-DISCUSS@LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET] On Behalf Of Sergii Polishchuk Sent: Tuesday, January 29, 2019 1:39 PM To: MICE-DISCUSS(a)LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET Subject: Re: [MICE-DISCUSS] Youtube/Google 15169:13300 at another location 0:36040 at MICE Google Global Cache algorithm of the cache selection not is not very fast and not always choose the best node. > The problem is there is currently a ticket open with Google where their equipment ignores BGP, and continues to send traffic. At http://redirector.googlevideo.com/report_mapping I see => google-msp5 :super_isp_number: 2 What is “super_isp_number” ? I can see this only at MICE - any other GGC instances has just regular hostname without any “super_isp”. Sergi Infotec Manitoba On Jan 29, 2019, at 12:55, Colin Baker <colinb(a)SUPRANET.NET> wrote: On 29.01.2019 12:40, Sergii Polishchuk wrote: We have multiple complains “Youtube videos freeze almost instantly”. What is the best way to remove my network prefix from MICE Google Cache instance until they resolve this problem? Do we have BGP community for that? If you're peering in multiple locations, this might be helpful: https://www.gstatic.com/isp/docs/BGPCommunitySupport.pdf I've only used these communities on AS 15169, but the document says it should work on 36040 as well. -- Colin Baker SupraNet Communications, Inc. (608) 572-7634 colinb(a)supranet.net This message is subject to the SupraNet Email Confidentiality Policy which is located at http://supranet.net/confidentiality To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1 To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1 To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1 To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1

Jan. 30, 2019

Re: Youtube/Google

by Mike Wilker

We are seeing some issues with content from this node as well. Even with our BGP disabled to MICE, the report mapping still returns google-msp5. Has anyone heard anything from Google? Thank You, Mike Wilker CTO ( Office: (507) 214-0259 - Email: mwilker(a)jagcom.net www.JagCom.net <http://www.jagcom.net/> 213 South Oak Avenue Owatonna, MN 55060 On Tue, Jan 29, 2019 at 2:46 PM Ben Franske <ben.lists(a)franske.com> wrote: > For what it's worth I'm seeing: > > 134.29.182.41 => google-msp5 : superx_isp_number: 26 (134.29.128.0/18) > 2607:f930:1c00:110:c8fb:2c4b:69fc:5483 => google-msp5 : superx_isp_number: > 26 (2607:f930::/32) [u] > > On the MinnState network which is MICE connected via NorthernLights > GigaPoP. > > -Ben > On 1/29/2019 1:56 PM, Jeremy Lumby wrote: > > I get super ISP ON KCIX as well. I am not sure what it means. I know > that Google has different types of Caches, possibly it is cache type > specific: > > 2602:ffaa:0:7:84a0:c17a:a6f6:d7a4 => google-mci2 : superx_isp_number: 3 > (2602:ffaa::/36) > > > > I gave seen Google continue to send youtube traffic to a router that went > down for over 24 hours after BGP went down. Google does have an internal > ticket number on the problem. > > > > *From:* MICE Discuss [mailto:MICE-DISCUSS@LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET > <MICE-DISCUSS(a)LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET>] *On Behalf Of *Sergii Polishchuk > *Sent:* Tuesday, January 29, 2019 1:39 PM > *To:* MICE-DISCUSS(a)LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET > *Subject:* Re: [MICE-DISCUSS] Youtube/Google > > > > 15169:13300 at another location > > 0:36040 at MICE > > > > Google Global Cache algorithm of the cache selection not is not very fast > and not always choose the best node. > > > > *> The problem is there is currently a ticket open with Google where their > equipment ignores BGP, and continues to send traffic.* > > > > At http://redirector.googlevideo.com/report_mapping I see => *google-msp5 > :super_isp_number: 2* > > > > What is “*super_isp_number*” ? I can see this only at MICE - any other > GGC instances has just regular hostname without any “super_isp”. > > > > *Sergi* > > *Infotec Manitoba* > > > > On Jan 29, 2019, at 12:55, Colin Baker <colinb(a)SUPRANET.NET> wrote: > > > > On 29.01.2019 12:40, Sergii Polishchuk wrote: > > We have multiple complains “Youtube videos freeze almost > instantly”. > What is the best way to remove my network prefix from MICE Google > Cache instance until they resolve this problem? Do we have BGP > community for that? > > > If you're peering in multiple locations, this might be helpful: > > https://www.gstatic.com/isp/docs/BGPCommunitySupport.pdf > > I've only used these communities on AS 15169, but the document says it > should work on 36040 as well. > > -- > Colin Baker > SupraNet Communications, Inc. > (608) 572-7634 > colinb(a)supranet.net > > This message is subject to the SupraNet Email Confidentiality Policy > which is located at http://supranet.net/confidentiality > > > > > ------------------------------ > > To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: > http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1 > > ------------------------------ > > To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: > http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1 > > > ------------------------------ > > To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: > http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1 >

Jan. 30, 2019

Re: Youtube/Google

by Ben Franske

For what it's worth I'm seeing: 134.29.182.41 => google-msp5 : superx_isp_number: 26 (134.29.128.0/18) 2607:f930:1c00:110:c8fb:2c4b:69fc:5483 => google-msp5 : superx_isp_number: 26 (2607:f930::/32) [u] On the MinnState network which is MICE connected via NorthernLights GigaPoP. -Ben On 1/29/2019 1:56 PM, Jeremy Lumby wrote: > > I get super ISP ON KCIX as well. I am not sure what it means. I know > that Google has different types of Caches, possibly it is cache type > specific: > > 2602:ffaa:0:7:84a0:c17a:a6f6:d7a4 => google-mci2 : superx_isp_number: > 3 (2602:ffaa::/36) > > I gave seen Google continue to send youtube traffic to a router that > went down for over 24 hours after BGP went down. Google does have an > internal ticket number on the problem. > > *From:*MICE Discuss [mailto:MICE-DISCUSS@LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET] *On Behalf > Of *Sergii Polishchuk > *Sent:* Tuesday, January 29, 2019 1:39 PM > *To:* MICE-DISCUSS(a)LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET > *Subject:* Re: [MICE-DISCUSS] Youtube/Google > > 15169:13300 at another location > > 0:36040 at MICE > > Google Global Cache algorithm of the cache selection not is not very > fast and not always choose the best node. > > /> The problem is there is currently a ticket open with Google where > their equipment ignores BGP, and continues to send traffic./ > > At http://redirector.googlevideo.com/report_mapping I see => > *google-msp5 :super_isp_number: 2* > > What is “*super_isp_number*” ? I can see this only at MICE - any other > GGC instances has just regular hostname without any “super_isp”. > > */Sergi/* > > /Infotec Manitoba/ > > > > On Jan 29, 2019, at 12:55, Colin Baker <colinb(a)SUPRANET.NET > <mailto:colinb@SUPRANET.NET>> wrote: > > On 29.01.2019 12:40, Sergii Polishchuk wrote: > > We have multiple complains “Youtube videos freeze almost > instantly”. > What is the best way to remove my network prefix from MICE Google > Cache instance until they resolve this problem? Do we have BGP > community for that? > > > If you're peering in multiple locations, this might be helpful: > > https://www.gstatic.com/isp/docs/BGPCommunitySupport.pdf > > I've only used these communities on AS 15169, but the document says it > should work on 36040 as well. > > -- > Colin Baker > SupraNet Communications, Inc. > (608) 572-7634 > colinb(a)supranet.net > > This message is subject to the SupraNet Email Confidentiality Policy > which is located at http://supranet.net/confidentiality > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: > http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1 > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: > http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1 >

Jan. 29, 2019

Re: Youtube/Google

by Jeremy Lumby

I get super ISP ON KCIX as well. I am not sure what it means. I know that Google has different types of Caches, possibly it is cache type specific: 2602:ffaa:0:7:84a0:c17a:a6f6:d7a4 => google-mci2 : superx_isp_number: 3 (2602:ffaa::/36) I gave seen Google continue to send youtube traffic to a router that went down for over 24 hours after BGP went down. Google does have an internal ticket number on the problem. From: MICE Discuss [mailto:MICE-DISCUSS@LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET] On Behalf Of Sergii Polishchuk Sent: Tuesday, January 29, 2019 1:39 PM To: MICE-DISCUSS(a)LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET Subject: Re: [MICE-DISCUSS] Youtube/Google 15169:13300 at another location 0:36040 at MICE Google Global Cache algorithm of the cache selection not is not very fast and not always choose the best node. > The problem is there is currently a ticket open with Google where their equipment ignores BGP, and continues to send traffic. At http://redirector.googlevideo.com/report_mapping I see => google-msp5 :super_isp_number: 2 What is “super_isp_number” ? I can see this only at MICE - any other GGC instances has just regular hostname without any “super_isp”. Sergi Infotec Manitoba On Jan 29, 2019, at 12:55, Colin Baker <colinb(a)SUPRANET.NET> wrote: On 29.01.2019 12:40, Sergii Polishchuk wrote: We have multiple complains “Youtube videos freeze almost instantly”. What is the best way to remove my network prefix from MICE Google Cache instance until they resolve this problem? Do we have BGP community for that? If you're peering in multiple locations, this might be helpful: https://www.gstatic.com/isp/docs/BGPCommunitySupport.pdf I've only used these communities on AS 15169, but the document says it should work on 36040 as well. -- Colin Baker SupraNet Communications, Inc. (608) 572-7634 colinb(a)supranet.net This message is subject to the SupraNet Email Confidentiality Policy which is located at http://supranet.net/confidentiality To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1

Jan. 29, 2019

Re: Youtube/Google

by Sergii Polishchuk

15169:13300 at another location 0:36040 at MICE Google Global Cache algorithm of the cache selection not is not very fast and not always choose the best node. > The problem is there is currently a ticket open with Google where their equipment ignores BGP, and continues to send traffic. At http://redirector.googlevideo.com/report_mapping <http://redirector.googlevideo.com/report_mapping> I see => google-msp5 :super_isp_number: 2 What is “super_isp_number” ? I can see this only at MICE - any other GGC instances has just regular hostname without any “super_isp”. Sergi Infotec Manitoba > On Jan 29, 2019, at 12:55, Colin Baker <colinb(a)SUPRANET.NET> wrote: > > On 29.01.2019 12:40, Sergii Polishchuk wrote: >> We have multiple complains “Youtube videos freeze almost >> instantly”. >> What is the best way to remove my network prefix from MICE Google >> Cache instance until they resolve this problem? Do we have BGP >> community for that? > > If you're peering in multiple locations, this might be helpful: > > https://www.gstatic.com/isp/docs/BGPCommunitySupport.pdf > > I've only used these communities on AS 15169, but the document says it should work on 36040 as well. > > -- > Colin Baker > SupraNet Communications, Inc. > (608) 572-7634 > colinb(a)supranet.net > > This message is subject to the SupraNet Email Confidentiality Policy > which is located at http://supranet.net/confidentiality

Jan. 29, 2019

Re: Youtube/Google

by Colin Baker

On 29.01.2019 12:40, Sergii Polishchuk wrote: > We have multiple complains “Youtube videos freeze almost > instantly”. > What is the best way to remove my network prefix from MICE Google > Cache instance until they resolve this problem? Do we have BGP > community for that? > If you're peering in multiple locations, this might be helpful: https://www.gstatic.com/isp/docs/BGPCommunitySupport.pdf I've only used these communities on AS 15169, but the document says it should work on 36040 as well. -- Colin Baker SupraNet Communications, Inc. (608) 572-7634 colinb(a)supranet.net This message is subject to the SupraNet Email Confidentiality Policy which is located at http://supranet.net/confidentiality

Jan. 29, 2019

Re: Youtube/Google

by Justin Krejci

Here is the Google mapping page that end users can run to identify which node is serving them video content: http://redirector.googlevideo.com/report_mapping It is usually one of the first things Google asks for when tickets are opened for video content playback issues. ________________________________ From: MICE Discuss <MICE-DISCUSS(a)LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET> on behalf of Jeremy Lumby <jlumby(a)MNVOIP.COM> Sent: Tuesday, January 29, 2019 12:46 PM To: MICE-DISCUSS(a)LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET Subject: Re: [MICE-DISCUSS] Youtube/Google You can try the community of: 0:36040 The communities are all listed at http://www.micemn.net/technical.html The problem is there is currently a ticket open with Google where their equipment ignores BGP, and continues to send traffic. There is about a 50% chance it will work without getting them to manually clear your prefixes. From: MICE Discuss [mailto:MICE-DISCUSS@LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET] On Behalf Of Sergii Polishchuk Sent: Tuesday, January 29, 2019 12:41 PM To: MICE-DISCUSS(a)LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET Subject: Re: [MICE-DISCUSS] Youtube/Google We have multiple complains "Youtube videos freeze almost instantly". What is the best way to remove my network prefix from MICE Google Cache instance until they resolve this problem? Do we have BGP community for that? Sergi Infotec Manitoba On Jan 29, 2019, at 12:19, Jeff Wilde <jeff.wilde(a)PARKREGION.COM<mailto:jeff.wilde@PARKREGION.COM>> wrote: Any complaints on connectivity Issues through people watching Youtube? We have had some people calling in that said it is sporadic. Just curious. Jeff Wilde IT Manager Park Region Telephone Company P: 218-826-8330 E: jeff.wilde(a)parkregion.com<mailto:jeff.wilde@parkregion.com> ________________________________ To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1 ________________________________ To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1 ________________________________ To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1

Jan. 29, 2019

Re: Youtube/Google

by Richard Laager

On Jan 29, 2019, at 12:40, Sergii Polishchuk <sergi(a)infotec.ca> wrote: > What is the best way to remove my network prefix from MICE Google Cache instance until they resolve this problem? Do we have BGP community for that? I haven’t specifically tested this today, but 0:36040 should work: http://micemn.net/technical.html -- Richard

Jan. 29, 2019

Re: Youtube/Google

by Jeremy Lumby

You can try the community of: 0:36040 The communities are all listed at http://www.micemn.net/technical.html The problem is there is currently a ticket open with Google where their equipment ignores BGP, and continues to send traffic. There is about a 50% chance it will work without getting them to manually clear your prefixes. From: MICE Discuss [mailto:MICE-DISCUSS@LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET] On Behalf Of Sergii Polishchuk Sent: Tuesday, January 29, 2019 12:41 PM To: MICE-DISCUSS(a)LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET Subject: Re: [MICE-DISCUSS] Youtube/Google We have multiple complains “Youtube videos freeze almost instantly”. What is the best way to remove my network prefix from MICE Google Cache instance until they resolve this problem? Do we have BGP community for that? Sergi Infotec Manitoba On Jan 29, 2019, at 12:19, Jeff Wilde <jeff.wilde(a)PARKREGION.COM> wrote: Any complaints on connectivity Issues through people watching Youtube? We have had some people calling in that said it is sporadic. Just curious. Jeff Wilde IT Manager Park Region Telephone Company P: 218-826-8330 E: jeff.wilde(a)parkregion.com To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1 To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1

Jan. 29, 2019

Re: Youtube/Google

by Sergii Polishchuk

We have multiple complains “Youtube videos freeze almost instantly”. What is the best way to remove my network prefix from MICE Google Cache instance until they resolve this problem? Do we have BGP community for that? Sergi Infotec Manitoba > On Jan 29, 2019, at 12:19, Jeff Wilde <jeff.wilde(a)PARKREGION.COM> wrote: > > Any complaints on connectivity Issues through people watching Youtube? We have had some people calling in that said it is sporadic. Just curious. > > Jeff Wilde > IT Manager > Park Region Telephone Company > P: 218-826-8330 > E: jeff.wilde(a)parkregion.com <mailto:jeff.wilde@parkregion.com> > > > To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: > http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1 <http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1>

Jan. 29, 2019