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Re: Implex 10G Port Upgrade

by Jeremy Lumby

The switch has been updated and is ready for their optic. -----Original Message----- From: MICE Discuss [mailto:MICE-DISCUSS@LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET] On Behalf Of Jay Hanke Sent: Thursday, January 31, 2019 10:28 AM To: MICE-DISCUSS(a)LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET Subject: [MICE-DISCUSS] Implex 10G Port Upgrade Implex is upgrading to a new 10G port on the main switch. The new port assignment is: Ethernet5/24 All IP addressing will remain the same. Welcome Aboard (again)! -- Jay Hanke, President South Front Networks jayhanke(a)southfront.io Phone 612-204-0000

Jan. 31, 2019

Implex 10G Port Upgrade

by Jay Hanke

Implex is upgrading to a new 10G port on the main switch. The new port assignment is: Ethernet5/24 All IP addressing will remain the same. Welcome Aboard (again)! -- Jay Hanke, President South Front Networks jayhanke(a)southfront.io Phone 612-204-0000

Jan. 31, 2019

Re: Youtube/Google

by Michael Hare

I can report due to no action that AS3128 took, our path to 208.117.253.0/24 flipped from MICE preferred to an alternative provider 2019-01-29 21:50:10 (CST). Connector reports happiness; 208.117.253.0/24 announcement was withdrawn via MICE, which corresponds to a drop to zero from Google via MICE for us. -Michael From: MICE Discuss <MICE-DISCUSS(a)LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET> On Behalf Of Jeremy Lumby Sent: Wednesday, January 30, 2019 9:23 AM To: MICE-DISCUSS(a)LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET Subject: Re: [MICE-DISCUSS] Youtube/Google In general I have found that the play store tends to use the same caches as Youtube. From: MICE Discuss [mailto:MICE-DISCUSS@LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET] On Behalf Of Michael Hare Sent: Wednesday, January 30, 2019 9:18 AM To: MICE-DISCUSS(a)LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET<mailto:MICE-DISCUSS@LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET> Subject: Re: [MICE-DISCUSS] Youtube/Google From Wisconsin (AS3128), I have reports of issues with Google play that started yesterday as well. Connector/customer sent quite detailed info. Could be totally unrelated but timing is odd. TCPDUMP for him is showing repeated ACK and RST. Thumbs up on continuing this discussion on list and I will chime in if I have anything relevant. We have NOT reached out to Google. Does anyone know how useful the http://redirector.googlevideo.com/report_mapping URL is for Google play mapping? -Michael From: MICE Discuss <MICE-DISCUSS(a)LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET<mailto:MICE-DISCUSS@LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET>> On Behalf Of AnthonyAnderberg(a)nuvera.net<mailto:AnthonyAnderberg@nuvera.net> Sent: Wednesday, January 30, 2019 2:08 AM To: MICE-DISCUSS(a)LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET<mailto:MICE-DISCUSS@LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET> Subject: Re: [MICE-DISCUSS] Youtube/Google Late in the evening we did a community 0:36040 into MICE, it took a while but eventually our traffic switched from msp5 to mci2. I don’t know that it’s solved our problems but things seem better, we’ll see tomorrow when all the kids are home watching YouTube videos of other bored kids sitting at home... Cheers, anthony [signature_1066584455] From: MICE Discuss <MICE-DISCUSS(a)LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET<mailto:MICE-DISCUSS@LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET>> on behalf of Mike Wilker <mwilker(a)JAGCOM.NET<mailto:mwilker@JAGCOM.NET>> Reply-To: MICE Discuss <MICE-DISCUSS(a)LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET<mailto:MICE-DISCUSS@LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET>> Date: Tuesday, January 29, 2019 at 6:17 PM To: MICE Discuss <MICE-DISCUSS(a)LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET<mailto:MICE-DISCUSS@LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET>> Subject: Re: [MICE-DISCUSS] Youtube/Google We are seeing some issues with content from this node as well. Even with our BGP disabled to MICE, the report mapping still returns google-msp5. Has anyone heard anything from Google? Thank You, Mike Wilker CTO • Office: (507) 214-0259 • Email: mwilker(a)jagcom.net<mailto:mwilker@jagcom.net> [Image removed by sender.] www.JagCom.net<http://www.jagcom.net/> 213 South Oak Avenue Owatonna, MN 55060 On Tue, Jan 29, 2019 at 2:46 PM Ben Franske <ben.lists(a)franske.com<mailto:ben.lists@franske.com>> wrote: For what it's worth I'm seeing: 134.29.182.41 => google-msp5 : superx_isp_number: 26 (134.29.128.0/18<http://134.29.128.0/18>) 2607:f930:1c00:110:c8fb:2c4b:69fc:5483 => google-msp5 : superx_isp_number: 26 (2607:f930::/32) [u] On the MinnState network which is MICE connected via NorthernLights GigaPoP. -Ben On 1/29/2019 1:56 PM, Jeremy Lumby wrote: I get super ISP ON KCIX as well. I am not sure what it means. I know that Google has different types of Caches, possibly it is cache type specific: 2602:ffaa:0:7:84a0:c17a:a6f6:d7a4 => google-mci2 : superx_isp_number: 3 (2602:ffaa::/36) I gave seen Google continue to send youtube traffic to a router that went down for over 24 hours after BGP went down. Google does have an internal ticket number on the problem. From: MICE Discuss [mailto:MICE-DISCUSS@LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET] On Behalf Of Sergii Polishchuk Sent: Tuesday, January 29, 2019 1:39 PM To: MICE-DISCUSS(a)LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET<mailto:MICE-DISCUSS@LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET> Subject: Re: [MICE-DISCUSS] Youtube/Google 15169:13300 at another location 0:36040 at MICE Google Global Cache algorithm of the cache selection not is not very fast and not always choose the best node. > The problem is there is currently a ticket open with Google where their equipment ignores BGP, and continues to send traffic. At http://redirector.googlevideo.com/report_mapping I see => google-msp5 :super_isp_number: 2 What is “super_isp_number” ? I can see this only at MICE - any other GGC instances has just regular hostname without any “super_isp”. Sergi Infotec Manitoba On Jan 29, 2019, at 12:55, Colin Baker <colinb(a)SUPRANET.NET<mailto:colinb@SUPRANET.NET>> wrote: On 29.01.2019 12:40, Sergii Polishchuk wrote: We have multiple complains “Youtube videos freeze almost instantly”. What is the best way to remove my network prefix from MICE Google Cache instance until they resolve this problem? Do we have BGP community for that? If you're peering in multiple locations, this might be helpful: https://www.gstatic.com/isp/docs/BGPCommunitySupport.pdf I've only used these communities on AS 15169, but the document says it should work on 36040 as well. -- Colin Baker SupraNet Communications, Inc. (608) 572-7634 colinb(a)supranet.net<mailto:colinb@supranet.net> This message is subject to the SupraNet Email Confidentiality Policy which is located at http://supranet.net/confidentiality ________________________________ To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1 ________________________________ To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1 ________________________________ To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1

Jan. 30, 2019

Re: Youtube/Google

by Jeremy Lumby

In general I have found that the play store tends to use the same caches as Youtube. From: MICE Discuss [mailto:MICE-DISCUSS@LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET] On Behalf Of Michael Hare Sent: Wednesday, January 30, 2019 9:18 AM To: MICE-DISCUSS(a)LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET Subject: Re: [MICE-DISCUSS] Youtube/Google >From Wisconsin (AS3128), I have reports of issues with Google play that started yesterday as well. Connector/customer sent quite detailed info. Could be totally unrelated but timing is odd. TCPDUMP for him is showing repeated ACK and RST. Thumbs up on continuing this discussion on list and I will chime in if I have anything relevant. We have NOT reached out to Google. Does anyone know how useful the http://redirector.googlevideo.com/report_mapping URL is for Google play mapping? -Michael From: MICE Discuss <MICE-DISCUSS(a)LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET> On Behalf Of AnthonyAnderberg(a)nuvera.net Sent: Wednesday, January 30, 2019 2:08 AM To: MICE-DISCUSS(a)LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET Subject: Re: [MICE-DISCUSS] Youtube/Google Late in the evening we did a community 0:36040 into MICE, it took a while but eventually our traffic switched from msp5 to mci2. I don’t know that it’s solved our problems but things seem better, we’ll see tomorrow when all the kids are home watching YouTube videos of other bored kids sitting at home... Cheers, anthony From: MICE Discuss <MICE-DISCUSS(a)LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET> on behalf of Mike Wilker <mwilker(a)JAGCOM.NET> Reply-To: MICE Discuss <MICE-DISCUSS(a)LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET> Date: Tuesday, January 29, 2019 at 6:17 PM To: MICE Discuss <MICE-DISCUSS(a)LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET> Subject: Re: [MICE-DISCUSS] Youtube/Google We are seeing some issues with content from this node as well. Even with our BGP disabled to MICE, the report mapping still returns google-msp5. Has anyone heard anything from Google? Thank You, Mike Wilker CTO ( Office: (507) 214-0259 - Email: mwilker(a)jagcom.net www.JagCom.net 213 South Oak Avenue Owatonna, MN 55060 On Tue, Jan 29, 2019 at 2:46 PM Ben Franske <ben.lists(a)franske.com> wrote: For what it's worth I'm seeing: 134.29.182.41 => google-msp5 : superx_isp_number: 26 (134.29.128.0/18) 2607:f930:1c00:110:c8fb:2c4b:69fc:5483 => google-msp5 : superx_isp_number: 26 (2607:f930::/32) [u] On the MinnState network which is MICE connected via NorthernLights GigaPoP. -Ben On 1/29/2019 1:56 PM, Jeremy Lumby wrote: I get super ISP ON KCIX as well. I am not sure what it means. I know that Google has different types of Caches, possibly it is cache type specific: 2602:ffaa:0:7:84a0:c17a:a6f6:d7a4 => google-mci2 : superx_isp_number: 3 (2602:ffaa::/36) I gave seen Google continue to send youtube traffic to a router that went down for over 24 hours after BGP went down. Google does have an internal ticket number on the problem. From: MICE Discuss [mailto:MICE-DISCUSS@LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET] On Behalf Of Sergii Polishchuk Sent: Tuesday, January 29, 2019 1:39 PM To: MICE-DISCUSS(a)LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET Subject: Re: [MICE-DISCUSS] Youtube/Google 15169:13300 at another location 0:36040 at MICE Google Global Cache algorithm of the cache selection not is not very fast and not always choose the best node. > The problem is there is currently a ticket open with Google where their equipment ignores BGP, and continues to send traffic. At http://redirector.googlevideo.com/report_mapping I see => google-msp5 :super_isp_number: 2 What is “super_isp_number” ? I can see this only at MICE - any other GGC instances has just regular hostname without any “super_isp”. Sergi Infotec Manitoba On Jan 29, 2019, at 12:55, Colin Baker <colinb(a)SUPRANET.NET> wrote: On 29.01.2019 12:40, Sergii Polishchuk wrote: We have multiple complains “Youtube videos freeze almost instantly”. What is the best way to remove my network prefix from MICE Google Cache instance until they resolve this problem? Do we have BGP community for that? If you're peering in multiple locations, this might be helpful: https://www.gstatic.com/isp/docs/BGPCommunitySupport.pdf I've only used these communities on AS 15169, but the document says it should work on 36040 as well. -- Colin Baker SupraNet Communications, Inc. (608) 572-7634 colinb(a)supranet.net This message is subject to the SupraNet Email Confidentiality Policy which is located at http://supranet.net/confidentiality To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1 To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1

Jan. 30, 2019

Re: Youtube/Google

by Michael Hare

From Wisconsin (AS3128), I have reports of issues with Google play that started yesterday as well. Connector/customer sent quite detailed info. Could be totally unrelated but timing is odd. TCPDUMP for him is showing repeated ACK and RST. Thumbs up on continuing this discussion on list and I will chime in if I have anything relevant. We have NOT reached out to Google. Does anyone know how useful the http://redirector.googlevideo.com/report_mapping URL is for Google play mapping? -Michael From: MICE Discuss <MICE-DISCUSS(a)LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET> On Behalf Of AnthonyAnderberg(a)nuvera.net Sent: Wednesday, January 30, 2019 2:08 AM To: MICE-DISCUSS(a)LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET Subject: Re: [MICE-DISCUSS] Youtube/Google Late in the evening we did a community 0:36040 into MICE, it took a while but eventually our traffic switched from msp5 to mci2. I don’t know that it’s solved our problems but things seem better, we’ll see tomorrow when all the kids are home watching YouTube videos of other bored kids sitting at home... Cheers, anthony [signature_1066584455] From: MICE Discuss <MICE-DISCUSS(a)LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET<mailto:MICE-DISCUSS@LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET>> on behalf of Mike Wilker <mwilker(a)JAGCOM.NET<mailto:mwilker@JAGCOM.NET>> Reply-To: MICE Discuss <MICE-DISCUSS(a)LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET<mailto:MICE-DISCUSS@LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET>> Date: Tuesday, January 29, 2019 at 6:17 PM To: MICE Discuss <MICE-DISCUSS(a)LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET<mailto:MICE-DISCUSS@LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET>> Subject: Re: [MICE-DISCUSS] Youtube/Google We are seeing some issues with content from this node as well. Even with our BGP disabled to MICE, the report mapping still returns google-msp5. Has anyone heard anything from Google? Thank You, Mike Wilker CTO • Office: (507) 214-0259 • Email: mwilker(a)jagcom.net<mailto:mwilker@jagcom.net> [Image removed by sender.] www.JagCom.net<http://www.jagcom.net/> 213 South Oak Avenue Owatonna, MN 55060 On Tue, Jan 29, 2019 at 2:46 PM Ben Franske <ben.lists(a)franske.com<mailto:ben.lists@franske.com>> wrote: For what it's worth I'm seeing: 134.29.182.41 => google-msp5 : superx_isp_number: 26 (134.29.128.0/18<http://134.29.128.0/18>) 2607:f930:1c00:110:c8fb:2c4b:69fc:5483 => google-msp5 : superx_isp_number: 26 (2607:f930::/32) [u] On the MinnState network which is MICE connected via NorthernLights GigaPoP. -Ben On 1/29/2019 1:56 PM, Jeremy Lumby wrote: I get super ISP ON KCIX as well. I am not sure what it means. I know that Google has different types of Caches, possibly it is cache type specific: 2602:ffaa:0:7:84a0:c17a:a6f6:d7a4 => google-mci2 : superx_isp_number: 3 (2602:ffaa::/36) I gave seen Google continue to send youtube traffic to a router that went down for over 24 hours after BGP went down. Google does have an internal ticket number on the problem. From: MICE Discuss [mailto:MICE-DISCUSS@LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET] On Behalf Of Sergii Polishchuk Sent: Tuesday, January 29, 2019 1:39 PM To: MICE-DISCUSS(a)LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET<mailto:MICE-DISCUSS@LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET> Subject: Re: [MICE-DISCUSS] Youtube/Google 15169:13300 at another location 0:36040 at MICE Google Global Cache algorithm of the cache selection not is not very fast and not always choose the best node. > The problem is there is currently a ticket open with Google where their equipment ignores BGP, and continues to send traffic. At http://redirector.googlevideo.com/report_mapping I see => google-msp5 :super_isp_number: 2 What is “super_isp_number” ? I can see this only at MICE - any other GGC instances has just regular hostname without any “super_isp”. Sergi Infotec Manitoba On Jan 29, 2019, at 12:55, Colin Baker <colinb(a)SUPRANET.NET<mailto:colinb@SUPRANET.NET>> wrote: On 29.01.2019 12:40, Sergii Polishchuk wrote: We have multiple complains “Youtube videos freeze almost instantly”. What is the best way to remove my network prefix from MICE Google Cache instance until they resolve this problem? Do we have BGP community for that? If you're peering in multiple locations, this might be helpful: https://www.gstatic.com/isp/docs/BGPCommunitySupport.pdf I've only used these communities on AS 15169, but the document says it should work on 36040 as well. -- Colin Baker SupraNet Communications, Inc. (608) 572-7634 colinb(a)supranet.net<mailto:colinb@supranet.net> This message is subject to the SupraNet Email Confidentiality Policy which is located at http://supranet.net/confidentiality ________________________________ To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1

Jan. 30, 2019

Re: Youtube/Google

by Mike Wilker

We seem to be doing better today, but a few customers are reporting some Youtube problems still. Thank You, Mike Wilker CTO ( Office: (507) 214-0259 - Email: mwilker(a)jagcom.net www.JagCom.net <http://www.jagcom.net/> 213 South Oak Avenue Owatonna, MN 55060 On Wed, Jan 30, 2019 at 2:08 AM AnthonyAnderberg(a)nuvera.net < AnthonyAnderberg(a)nuvera.net> wrote: > Late in the evening we did a community 0:36040 into MICE, it took a while > but eventually our traffic switched from msp5 to mci2. > > I don’t know that it’s solved our problems but things seem better, we’ll > see tomorrow when all the kids are home watching YouTube videos of other > bored kids sitting at home... > > > > Cheers, > > anthony > > > > [image: signature_1066584455] > > > > *From: *MICE Discuss <MICE-DISCUSS(a)LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET> on behalf of Mike > Wilker <mwilker(a)JAGCOM.NET> > *Reply-To: *MICE Discuss <MICE-DISCUSS(a)LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET> > *Date: *Tuesday, January 29, 2019 at 6:17 PM > *To: *MICE Discuss <MICE-DISCUSS(a)LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET> > *Subject: *Re: [MICE-DISCUSS] Youtube/Google > > > > We are seeing some issues with content from this node as well. Even with > our BGP disabled to MICE, the report mapping still returns google-msp5. > Has anyone heard anything from Google? > > > > > > > Thank You, > > Mike Wilker > > CTO > > ( Office: (507) 214-0259 > > - Email: mwilker(a)jagcom.net > > [image: Image removed by sender.] > > www.JagCom.net <http://www.jagcom.net/> > > 213 South Oak Avenue Owatonna, MN 55060 > > > > > > On Tue, Jan 29, 2019 at 2:46 PM Ben Franske <ben.lists(a)franske.com> wrote: > > For what it's worth I'm seeing: > > 134.29.182.41 => google-msp5 : superx_isp_number: 26 (134.29.128.0/18) > 2607:f930:1c00:110:c8fb:2c4b:69fc:5483 => google-msp5 : superx_isp_number: > 26 (2607:f930::/32) [u] > > On the MinnState network which is MICE connected via NorthernLights > GigaPoP. > > -Ben > > On 1/29/2019 1:56 PM, Jeremy Lumby wrote: > > I get super ISP ON KCIX as well. I am not sure what it means. I know > that Google has different types of Caches, possibly it is cache type > specific: > > 2602:ffaa:0:7:84a0:c17a:a6f6:d7a4 => google-mci2 : superx_isp_number: 3 > (2602:ffaa::/36) > > > > I gave seen Google continue to send youtube traffic to a router that went > down for over 24 hours after BGP went down. Google does have an internal > ticket number on the problem. > > > > *From:* MICE Discuss [mailto:MICE-DISCUSS@LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET > <MICE-DISCUSS(a)LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET>] *On Behalf Of *Sergii Polishchuk > *Sent:* Tuesday, January 29, 2019 1:39 PM > *To:* MICE-DISCUSS(a)LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET > *Subject:* Re: [MICE-DISCUSS] Youtube/Google > > > > 15169:13300 at another location > > 0:36040 at MICE > > > > Google Global Cache algorithm of the cache selection not is not very fast > and not always choose the best node. > > > > *> The problem is there is currently a ticket open with Google where their > equipment ignores BGP, and continues to send traffic.* > > > > At http://redirector.googlevideo.com/report_mapping I see => *google-msp5 > :super_isp_number: 2* > > > > What is “*super_isp_number*” ? I can see this only at MICE - any other > GGC instances has just regular hostname without any “super_isp”. > > > > *Sergi* > > *Infotec Manitoba* > > > > On Jan 29, 2019, at 12:55, Colin Baker <colinb(a)SUPRANET.NET> wrote: > > > > On 29.01.2019 12:40, Sergii Polishchuk wrote: > > We have multiple complains “Youtube videos freeze almost > instantly”. > What is the best way to remove my network prefix from MICE Google > Cache instance until they resolve this problem? Do we have BGP > community for that? > > > If you're peering in multiple locations, this might be helpful: > > https://www.gstatic.com/isp/docs/BGPCommunitySupport.pdf > > I've only used these communities on AS 15169, but the document says it > should work on 36040 as well. > > -- > Colin Baker > SupraNet Communications, Inc. > (608) 572-7634 > colinb(a)supranet.net > > This message is subject to the SupraNet Email Confidentiality Policy > which is located at http://supranet.net/confidentiality > > > ------------------------------ > > To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: > http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1 >

Jan. 30, 2019

Re: Fastly issues?

by AnthonyAnderberg＠nuvera.net

I believe Fastly was going to be in the process of switching to their new MICE links tonight. [signature_1920393664] From: MICE Discuss <MICE-DISCUSS(a)LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET> on behalf of Steve Howard <showard(a)PAULBUNYAN.NET> Reply-To: MICE Discuss <MICE-DISCUSS(a)LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET> Date: Tuesday, January 29, 2019 at 10:26 PM To: MICE Discuss <MICE-DISCUSS(a)LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET> Subject: [MICE-DISCUSS] Fastly issues? Is anybody seeing issues with sites hosted at fastly? We are seeing problems at some websites including redditt.com, theverge.com, amp.cnn.com... The one thing they all have in common is that they are all fastly.com IP addresses. ________________________________ To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1

Jan. 30, 2019

Re: Youtube/Google

by AnthonyAnderberg＠nuvera.net

Late in the evening we did a community 0:36040 into MICE, it took a while but eventually our traffic switched from msp5 to mci2. I don’t know that it’s solved our problems but things seem better, we’ll see tomorrow when all the kids are home watching YouTube videos of other bored kids sitting at home... Cheers, anthony [signature_1066584455] From: MICE Discuss <MICE-DISCUSS(a)LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET> on behalf of Mike Wilker <mwilker(a)JAGCOM.NET> Reply-To: MICE Discuss <MICE-DISCUSS(a)LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET> Date: Tuesday, January 29, 2019 at 6:17 PM To: MICE Discuss <MICE-DISCUSS(a)LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET> Subject: Re: [MICE-DISCUSS] Youtube/Google We are seeing some issues with content from this node as well. Even with our BGP disabled to MICE, the report mapping still returns google-msp5. Has anyone heard anything from Google? Thank You, Mike Wilker CTO • Office: (507) 214-0259 • Email: mwilker(a)jagcom.net<mailto:mwilker@jagcom.net> [Image removed by sender.] www.JagCom.net<http://www.jagcom.net/> 213 South Oak Avenue Owatonna, MN 55060 On Tue, Jan 29, 2019 at 2:46 PM Ben Franske <ben.lists(a)franske.com<mailto:ben.lists@franske.com>> wrote: For what it's worth I'm seeing: 134.29.182.41 => google-msp5 : superx_isp_number: 26 (134.29.128.0/18<http://134.29.128.0/18>) 2607:f930:1c00:110:c8fb:2c4b:69fc:5483 => google-msp5 : superx_isp_number: 26 (2607:f930::/32) [u] On the MinnState network which is MICE connected via NorthernLights GigaPoP. -Ben On 1/29/2019 1:56 PM, Jeremy Lumby wrote: I get super ISP ON KCIX as well. I am not sure what it means. I know that Google has different types of Caches, possibly it is cache type specific: 2602:ffaa:0:7:84a0:c17a:a6f6:d7a4 => google-mci2 : superx_isp_number: 3 (2602:ffaa::/36) I gave seen Google continue to send youtube traffic to a router that went down for over 24 hours after BGP went down. Google does have an internal ticket number on the problem. From: MICE Discuss [mailto:MICE-DISCUSS@LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET] On Behalf Of Sergii Polishchuk Sent: Tuesday, January 29, 2019 1:39 PM To: MICE-DISCUSS(a)LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET<mailto:MICE-DISCUSS@LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET> Subject: Re: [MICE-DISCUSS] Youtube/Google 15169:13300 at another location 0:36040 at MICE Google Global Cache algorithm of the cache selection not is not very fast and not always choose the best node. > The problem is there is currently a ticket open with Google where their equipment ignores BGP, and continues to send traffic. At http://redirector.googlevideo.com/report_mapping I see => google-msp5 :super_isp_number: 2 What is “super_isp_number” ? I can see this only at MICE - any other GGC instances has just regular hostname without any “super_isp”. Sergi Infotec Manitoba On Jan 29, 2019, at 12:55, Colin Baker <colinb(a)SUPRANET.NET<mailto:colinb@SUPRANET.NET>> wrote: On 29.01.2019 12:40, Sergii Polishchuk wrote: We have multiple complains “Youtube videos freeze almost instantly”. What is the best way to remove my network prefix from MICE Google Cache instance until they resolve this problem? Do we have BGP community for that? If you're peering in multiple locations, this might be helpful: https://www.gstatic.com/isp/docs/BGPCommunitySupport.pdf I've only used these communities on AS 15169, but the document says it should work on 36040 as well. -- Colin Baker SupraNet Communications, Inc. (608) 572-7634 colinb(a)supranet.net<mailto:colinb@supranet.net> This message is subject to the SupraNet Email Confidentiality Policy which is located at http://supranet.net/confidentiality

Jan. 30, 2019

Fastly issues?

by Steve Howard

Jan. 30, 2019

Re: Youtube/Google

by Mike Wilker

Thanks Jeremy. Thank You, Mike Wilker CTO ( Office: (507) 214-0259 - Email: mwilker(a)jagcom.net www.JagCom.net <http://www.jagcom.net/> 213 South Oak Avenue Owatonna, MN 55060 On Tue, Jan 29, 2019 at 6:21 PM Jeremy Lumby <jlumby(a)mnvoip.com> wrote: > I received in initial reply where they insisted everything was normal. I > pushed back, and it has now been escalated. > > > > > > *From:* MICE Discuss [mailto:MICE-DISCUSS@LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET] *On Behalf > Of *Mike Wilker > *Sent:* Tuesday, January 29, 2019 6:17 PM > *To:* MICE-DISCUSS(a)LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET > *Subject:* Re: [MICE-DISCUSS] Youtube/Google > > > > We are seeing some issues with content from this node as well. Even with > our BGP disabled to MICE, the report mapping still returns google-msp5. > Has anyone heard anything from Google? > > > > > > > Thank You, > > Mike Wilker > > CTO > > ( Office: (507) 214-0259 > > - Email: mwilker(a)jagcom.net > > www.JagCom.net <http://www.jagcom.net/> > > 213 South Oak Avenue Owatonna, MN 55060 > > > > > > On Tue, Jan 29, 2019 at 2:46 PM Ben Franske <ben.lists(a)franske.com> wrote: > > For what it's worth I'm seeing: > > 134.29.182.41 => google-msp5 : superx_isp_number: 26 (134.29.128.0/18) > 2607:f930:1c00:110:c8fb:2c4b:69fc:5483 => google-msp5 : superx_isp_number: > 26 (2607:f930::/32) [u] > > On the MinnState network which is MICE connected via NorthernLights > GigaPoP. > > -Ben > > On 1/29/2019 1:56 PM, Jeremy Lumby wrote: > > I get super ISP ON KCIX as well. I am not sure what it means. I know > that Google has different types of Caches, possibly it is cache type > specific: > > 2602:ffaa:0:7:84a0:c17a:a6f6:d7a4 => google-mci2 : superx_isp_number: 3 > (2602:ffaa::/36) > > > > I gave seen Google continue to send youtube traffic to a router that went > down for over 24 hours after BGP went down. Google does have an internal > ticket number on the problem. > > > > *From:* MICE Discuss [mailto:MICE-DISCUSS@LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET > <MICE-DISCUSS(a)LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET>] *On Behalf Of *Sergii Polishchuk > *Sent:* Tuesday, January 29, 2019 1:39 PM > *To:* MICE-DISCUSS(a)LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET > *Subject:* Re: [MICE-DISCUSS] Youtube/Google > > > > 15169:13300 at another location > > 0:36040 at MICE > > > > Google Global Cache algorithm of the cache selection not is not very fast > and not always choose the best node. > > > > *> The problem is there is currently a ticket open with Google where their > equipment ignores BGP, and continues to send traffic.* > > > > At http://redirector.googlevideo.com/report_mapping I see => *google-msp5 > :super_isp_number: 2* > > > > What is “*super_isp_number*” ? I can see this only at MICE - any other > GGC instances has just regular hostname without any “super_isp”. > > > > *Sergi* > > *Infotec Manitoba* > > > > On Jan 29, 2019, at 12:55, Colin Baker <colinb(a)SUPRANET.NET> wrote: > > > > On 29.01.2019 12:40, Sergii Polishchuk wrote: > > We have multiple complains “Youtube videos freeze almost > instantly”. > What is the best way to remove my network prefix from MICE Google > Cache instance until they resolve this problem? Do we have BGP > community for that? > > > If you're peering in multiple locations, this might be helpful: > > https://www.gstatic.com/isp/docs/BGPCommunitySupport.pdf > > I've only used these communities on AS 15169, but the document says it > should work on 36040 as well. > > -- > Colin Baker > SupraNet Communications, Inc. > (608) 572-7634 > colinb(a)supranet.net > > This message is subject to the SupraNet Email Confidentiality Policy > which is located at http://supranet.net/confidentiality > > > > > ------------------------------ > > To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: > http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1 > > > ------------------------------ > > To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: > http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1 > > > ------------------------------ > > To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: > http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1 > > > ------------------------------ > > To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: > http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1 > > ------------------------------ > > To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: > http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1 >

Jan. 30, 2019