February 2018 - mice-discuss - lists.micemn.net

Re: Arista Support Contract

by David Farmer

I expect the resulting total expenditure to be disclosed to the membership, once the expenditure is made. The specific line-item details are unnecessary and should be kept confidential. However, your fiduciary responsibility to the membership comes first, agreeing to keep the total expenditure confidential once made would not be inconsistent with that responsibility in my opinion. Thanks. On Thu, Feb 1, 2018 at 8:29 PM, Richard Laager <rlaager(a)wiktel.com> wrote: > Just to be clear: the numbers are deliberately missing here on the public > discuss list. I am keeping the other board members fully informed on all > the details, including specific numbers, of course. > > -- > Richard -- =============================================== David Farmer Email:farmer@umn.edu Networking & Telecommunication Services Office of Information Technology University of Minnesota 2218 University Ave SE Phone: 612-626-0815 Minneapolis, MN 55414-3029 Cell: 612-812-9952 ===============================================

Feb. 2, 2018

Re: Arista Support Contract

by Richard Laager

Just to be clear: the numbers are deliberately missing here on the public discuss list. I am keeping the other board members fully informed on all the details, including specific numbers, of course. -- Richard

Feb. 2, 2018

Re: Arista Support Contract

by Richard Laager

> On Feb 1, 2018, at 19:50, Andrew Hoyos <hoyosa(a)GMAIL.COM> wrote: > > I’m a numbers guy - can you fill in the blanks on what 1yr vs 3yr contract costs are, and what’s in the bank now vs what’s expected when folks pay this years port fees? The numbers are deliberately missing. Vendors tend to expect/require confidentiality on pricing. I can take numbers from you though. If you wish to share your thoughts on what 1 vs 3 year ratios are fair, a minimum balance for MICE to maintain, etc., please do. -- Richard

Feb. 2, 2018

Re: Arista Support Contract

by Richard Laager

> On Feb 1, 2018, at 19:45, Jeremy Lumby <jlumby(a)MNVOIP.COM> wrote: > > It is also a nice time to call for any donations. On donations, free money is obviously great, but we do need to watch the 85% rule now that we are a co-op. If someone is interested in donating, please contact me off-list. Paying your port fees invoice promptly is also helpful here. -- Richard

Feb. 2, 2018

Re: Arista Support Contract

by David Farmer

+1 Sent from my iPhone > On Feb 1, 2018, at 19:45, Jeremy Lumby <jlumby(a)MNVOIP.COM> wrote: > > I think it is worth getting the discount even though it draws the account down quite a bit. Thanks Arista for allowing the split. It is also a nice time to call for any donations. If anyone has been thinking about donating, but was on the fence about when, now would be a great time! > > -----Original Message----- > From: MICE Discuss [mailto:MICE-DISCUSS@LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET] On Behalf Of Richard Laager > Sent: Thursday, February 01, 2018 6:52 PM > To: MICE-DISCUSS(a)LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET > Subject: [MICE-DISCUSS] Arista Support Contract > > MICE is responsible for the on-going support contract costs for the main > Arista switch. This was factored into the design of the port fees. > > We have received quotes from Arista. As is customary, the three-year > price is cheaper per year than the one-year price. The savings is > non-trivial, especially relative to our annual revenue, so I think it > would be wise to purchase the three-year contract. > > The three-year contract cost is more than our current cash balance. > After we collect this year's port fees, we will be able to cover it > while keeping a reasonable reserve. However, we need to do something > sooner, as it needs to be renewed this month. Fortunately, Arista has > offered to let us split the order in two halves to avoid us drawing the > bank balance too close to zero. > > Does the membership have any input they'd like to provide the board in > this matter? > > -- > Richard

Feb. 2, 2018

Re: Arista Support Contract

by Andrew Hoyos

I’m a numbers guy - can you fill in the blanks on what 1yr vs 3yr contract costs are, and what’s in the bank now vs what’s expected when folks pay this years port fees? I’m sure it’s a no brainer to go with the 3year option, but having actual numbers to back it up are helpful here :) Also, with the order split scenario, when would they expect payments? Thanks! — Andrew Hoyos hoyosa(a)gmail.com > On Feb 1, 2018, at 6:51 PM, Richard Laager <rlaager(a)WIKTEL.COM> wrote: > > MICE is responsible for the on-going support contract costs for the main > Arista switch. This was factored into the design of the port fees. > > We have received quotes from Arista. As is customary, the three-year > price is cheaper per year than the one-year price. The savings is > non-trivial, especially relative to our annual revenue, so I think it > would be wise to purchase the three-year contract. > > The three-year contract cost is more than our current cash balance. > After we collect this year's port fees, we will be able to cover it > while keeping a reasonable reserve. However, we need to do something > sooner, as it needs to be renewed this month. Fortunately, Arista has > offered to let us split the order in two halves to avoid us drawing the > bank balance too close to zero. > > Does the membership have any input they'd like to provide the board in > this matter? > > -- > Richard

Feb. 2, 2018

Re: Arista Support Contract

by Jeremy Lumby

I think it is worth getting the discount even though it draws the account down quite a bit. Thanks Arista for allowing the split. It is also a nice time to call for any donations. If anyone has been thinking about donating, but was on the fence about when, now would be a great time! -----Original Message----- From: MICE Discuss [mailto:MICE-DISCUSS@LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET] On Behalf Of Richard Laager Sent: Thursday, February 01, 2018 6:52 PM To: MICE-DISCUSS(a)LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET Subject: [MICE-DISCUSS] Arista Support Contract MICE is responsible for the on-going support contract costs for the main Arista switch. This was factored into the design of the port fees. We have received quotes from Arista. As is customary, the three-year price is cheaper per year than the one-year price. The savings is non-trivial, especially relative to our annual revenue, so I think it would be wise to purchase the three-year contract. The three-year contract cost is more than our current cash balance. After we collect this year's port fees, we will be able to cover it while keeping a reasonable reserve. However, we need to do something sooner, as it needs to be renewed this month. Fortunately, Arista has offered to let us split the order in two halves to avoid us drawing the bank balance too close to zero. Does the membership have any input they'd like to provide the board in this matter? -- Richard

Feb. 2, 2018

Arista Support Contract

by Richard Laager

MICE is responsible for the on-going support contract costs for the main Arista switch. This was factored into the design of the port fees. We have received quotes from Arista. As is customary, the three-year price is cheaper per year than the one-year price. The savings is non-trivial, especially relative to our annual revenue, so I think it would be wise to purchase the three-year contract. The three-year contract cost is more than our current cash balance. After we collect this year's port fees, we will be able to cover it while keeping a reasonable reserve. However, we need to do something sooner, as it needs to be renewed this month. Fortunately, Arista has offered to let us split the order in two halves to avoid us drawing the bank balance too close to zero. Does the membership have any input they'd like to provide the board in this matter? -- Richard

Feb. 2, 2018