July 2017 - mice-discuss - lists.micemn.net

Who is driving from the cities?

by Mike Horwath

I plan on leaving about 0800 hours Wednesday morning. Caveat: You'd have to put up with me. -- Mike Horwath, reachable via drechsau(a)Geeks.ORG

July 11, 2017

Re: MICE Tax-Exempt Application Status

by DeLong, Owen

If you think about it, it’s not an unreasonable choice of classification. A business league (c)(6) is really a trade association, similar to ARIN or Associated Locksimiths of America (ALOA), The Dairy Council, etc. These are usually bodies that allow members of an industry to gather and discuss issues of common concern to said industry and possibly engage in certain levels of self-governance/self-regulation. MICE-UG could probably get (c)(6) designation, but MICE itself does seem to fit better in (c)(12) from where I’m sitting. Have we sought advice about the advantages and disadvantages of accepting this revised designation from competent council? Would be nice to know what the lawyers have to say. Owen > On Jul 7, 2017, at 11:58 , Richard Laager <rlaager(a)WIKTEL.COM> wrote: > > The IRS has notified MICE of its intention to _deny_ our Application for > Recognition of Exemption. Recall that we filed under Section 501(c)(6), > the classification which includes "business leagues, chambers of > commerce, etc.". > > The IRS has suggested an alternative classification of 501(c)(12), which > we understand is very likely to be approved. This is the classification > which includes "mutual or cooperative telephone companies, or like > organizations". > > The board encourages all interested members to attend the UG 24 meeting, > July 12, 3:00 pm, at SDN Communications in Sioux Falls, SD. > > -- > Richard

July 7, 2017

MICE Tax-Exempt Application Status

by Richard Laager

The IRS has notified MICE of its intention to _deny_ our Application for Recognition of Exemption. Recall that we filed under Section 501(c)(6), the classification which includes "business leagues, chambers of commerce, etc.". The IRS has suggested an alternative classification of 501(c)(12), which we understand is very likely to be approved. This is the classification which includes "mutual or cooperative telephone companies, or like organizations". The board encourages all interested members to attend the UG 24 meeting, July 12, 3:00 pm, at SDN Communications in Sioux Falls, SD. -- Richard

July 7, 2017

Re: MICE Equipment

by Richard Laager

The MICE Equipment diagrams have been updated for the Arista changes. They are linked from the technical page: http://micemn.net/technical.html Thanks, Mike Johnston! -- Richard

July 7, 2017

Re: UG 24 - Call for Agenda

by Jason Hanke

We should do a "MICE/Peering 101". There will be a fair number of new faces. On Fri, Jul 7, 2017 at 3:04 AM, Richard Laager <rlaager(a)wiktel.com> wrote: > If you have agenda items for the upcoming UG 24, please send them to me. > > -- > Richard > -- Jay Hanke CTO Neutral Path Communications 3 Civic Center Plaza, Suite 204 Mankato, MN 56001 (507) 327-2398 mobile jayhanke(a)neutralpath.net www.neutralpath.net

July 7, 2017

Re: Crufty Networks?

by Levi Pederson

David, FiberNet advertisements are no longer under that AS. They are now an Arvig subnet. Thank you, *Levi Pederson* Mankato Networks LLC cell | 612.481.0769 work | 612.787.7392 levipederson(a)mankatonetworks.net On Fri, Jul 7, 2017 at 6:16 AM, John Unger <john(a)vaultas.com> wrote: > Ryan, fyi... > > How do we remain valid in NICE? > > What should we do regarding this? > > > > Regards, > > John Unger > *Vaultas Data Centers* > john(a)vaultas.com > 612.325.2909 <(612)%20325-2909> > www.vaultas.com > > > > > -------- Original message -------- > From: Jeremy Lumby <jlumby(a)MNVOIP.COM> > Date: 7/6/17 7:20 PM (GMT-06:00) > To: MICE-DISCUSS(a)LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET > Subject: Re: [MICE-DISCUSS] Crufty Networks? > > Introvex is fairly new, and still has some things to sort out. > > > > > > Jeremy Lumby > > Minnesota VoIP > > 9217 17th Ave S > > Suite 216 > > Bloomington, MN 55425 > > Main: 612-355-7740 x211 <(612)%20355-7740> > > Direct: 612-392-6814 <(612)%20392-6814> > > EFax: 952-873-7425 <(952)%20873-7425> > > jlumby(a)mnvoip.com > > > > > > > > *From:* MICE Discuss [mailto:MICE-DISCUSS@LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET] *On Behalf > Of *David Farmer > *Sent:* Thursday, July 06, 2017 6:14 PM > *To:* MICE-DISCUSS(a)LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET > *Subject:* [MICE-DISCUSS] Crufty Networks? > > > > Is Vaultas AS53480 still a live network? > > > > I don't see any prefixes associated with the ASN, and haven't seen any > traffic across MICE since May 30th, 2017 from the ASN. I think the > prefixes that were advertised from this ASN are now advertised by Compudyne > AS47096, maybe that's a clue. There web site seems live. > > > > Is Monticello Fibernet AS393466 still a live network? > > > > I don't see any prefixes associated with the ASN, and haven't seen any > traffic across MICE since March 20th, 2017 from the ASN. I don't see the > prefixes previously associated with this ASN anywhere on the Internet. > Their website seems live, but says "delivered by Arvig" now, maybe that's a > clue. :) > > > > Is Introvex Solutions AS135886 still a live network? > > > > I don't see any prefixes associated with the ASN, and haven't ever seen > any traffic across MICE from the ASN. I don't see the prefixes previously > associated with this ASN anywhere on the Internet. Cloudflare says their > website is offline, maybe that's a clue. > > > > Just want to clean things up if they are gone. > > > > Thanks. > > > > > > -- > > =============================================== > David Farmer Email:farmer@umn.edu > Networking & Telecommunication Services > Office of Information Technology > University of Minnesota > 2218 University Ave SE Phone: 612-626-0815 <(612)%20626-0815> > Minneapolis, MN 55414-3029 Cell: 612-812-9952 <(612)%20812-9952> > =============================================== > > > ------------------------------ > > To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: > http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1 > > ------------------------------ > > To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: > http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1 > > ------------------------------ > > To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: > http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1 >

July 7, 2017

Re: UG 24 - Call for Agenda

by Mike O'Connor

howzabout a slot to chat with Mark McFadden about ICANN? 4pm or later please, so's i can get wheels down and join the bridge. thanks, mike > On Jul 7, 2017, at 3:04 AM, Richard Laager <rlaager(a)WIKTEL.COM> wrote: > > If you have agenda items for the upcoming UG 24, please send them to me. > > -- > Richard WI:(715) 598-4284 MN:(651) 647-6109 Toll Free:(800) 896-0907 Fax:(866)-280-2356

July 7, 2017

Re: Crufty Networks?

by John Unger

Ryan, fyi... How do we remain valid in NICE? What should we do regarding this? Regards, John Unger Vaultas Data Centers john(a)vaultas.com 612.325.2909 www.vaultas.com -------- Original message -------- From: Jeremy Lumby <jlumby(a)MNVOIP.COM> Date: 7/6/17 7:20 PM (GMT-06:00) To: MICE-DISCUSS(a)LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET Subject: Re: [MICE-DISCUSS] Crufty Networks? Introvex is fairly new, and still has some things to sort out. Jeremy Lumby Minnesota VoIP 9217 17th Ave S Suite 216 Bloomington, MN 55425 Main: 612-355-7740 x211 Direct: 612-392-6814 EFax: 952-873-7425 jlumby(a)mnvoip.com From: MICE Discuss [mailto:MICE-DISCUSS@LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET] On Behalf Of David Farmer Sent: Thursday, July 06, 2017 6:14 PM To: MICE-DISCUSS(a)LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET Subject: [MICE-DISCUSS] Crufty Networks? Is Vaultas AS53480 still a live network? I don't see any prefixes associated with the ASN, and haven't seen any traffic across MICE since May 30th, 2017 from the ASN. I think the prefixes that were advertised from this ASN are now advertised by Compudyne AS47096, maybe that's a clue. There web site seems live. Is Monticello Fibernet AS393466 still a live network? I don't see any prefixes associated with the ASN, and haven't seen any traffic across MICE since March 20th, 2017 from the ASN. I don't see the prefixes previously associated with this ASN anywhere on the Internet. Their website seems live, but says "delivered by Arvig" now, maybe that's a clue. :) Is Introvex Solutions AS135886 still a live network? I don't see any prefixes associated with the ASN, and haven't ever seen any traffic across MICE from the ASN. I don't see the prefixes previously associated with this ASN anywhere on the Internet. Cloudflare says their website is offline, maybe that's a clue. Just want to clean things up if they are gone. Thanks. -- =============================================== David Farmer Email:farmer@umn.edu<mailto:Email%3Afarmer@umn.edu> Networking & Telecommunication Services Office of Information Technology University of Minnesota 2218 University Ave SE Phone: 612-626-0815<tel:(612)%20626-0815> Minneapolis, MN 55414-3029 Cell: 612-812-9952<tel:(612)%20812-9952> =============================================== ________________________________ To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1 ________________________________ To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1

July 7, 2017

UG 24 - Call for Agenda

by Richard Laager

If you have agenda items for the upcoming UG 24, please send them to me. -- Richard

July 7, 2017

Re: Crufty Networks?

by David Farmer

They seem to have a lot of things to figure out, according to HE they haven't been seen on the Internet since June 10th, and Cloudflare says their server is offline. http://bgp.he.net/AS135886#_asinfo https://www.introvex.net/ I included them in this list because they don't seem to be live on the Internet at all. There were several other networks new to MICE that aren't live on the IX yet, but I see them on the Internet. So I'm patiently waiting to see them on MICE. However, I wasn't sure what to think about these guys, I'll be patient a while longer then. Thanks On Thu, Jul 6, 2017 at 7:27 PM, Jeremy Lumby <jlumby(a)mnvoip.com> wrote: > Introvex is fairly new, and still has some things to sort out. > > > > > > Jeremy Lumby > > Minnesota VoIP > > 9217 17th Ave S > > Suite 216 > > Bloomington, MN 55425 > > Main: 612-355-7740 x211 <(612)%20355-7740> > > Direct: 612-392-6814 <(612)%20392-6814> > > EFax: 952-873-7425 <(952)%20873-7425> > > jlumby(a)mnvoip.com > > > > > > > > *From:* MICE Discuss [mailto:MICE-DISCUSS@LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET] *On Behalf > Of *David Farmer > *Sent:* Thursday, July 06, 2017 6:14 PM > *To:* MICE-DISCUSS(a)LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET > *Subject:* [MICE-DISCUSS] Crufty Networks? > > > > Is Vaultas AS53480 still a live network? > > > > I don't see any prefixes associated with the ASN, and haven't seen any > traffic across MICE since May 30th, 2017 from the ASN. I think the > prefixes that were advertised from this ASN are now advertised by Compudyne > AS47096, maybe that's a clue. There web site seems live. > > > > Is Monticello Fibernet AS393466 still a live network? > > > > I don't see any prefixes associated with the ASN, and haven't seen any > traffic across MICE since March 20th, 2017 from the ASN. I don't see the > prefixes previously associated with this ASN anywhere on the Internet. > Their website seems live, but says "delivered by Arvig" now, maybe that's a > clue. :) > > > > Is Introvex Solutions AS135886 still a live network? > > > > I don't see any prefixes associated with the ASN, and haven't ever seen > any traffic across MICE from the ASN. I don't see the prefixes previously > associated with this ASN anywhere on the Internet. Cloudflare says their > website is offline, maybe that's a clue. > > > > Just want to clean things up if they are gone. > > > > Thanks. > > > > > > -- > > =============================================== > David Farmer Email:farmer@umn.edu > Networking & Telecommunication Services > Office of Information Technology > University of Minnesota > 2218 University Ave SE Phone: 612-626-0815 <(612)%20626-0815> > Minneapolis, MN 55414-3029 Cell: 612-812-9952 <(612)%20812-9952> > =============================================== > > > ------------------------------ > > To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: > http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1 > > ------------------------------ > > To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: > http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1 > -- =============================================== David Farmer Email:farmer@umn.edu Networking & Telecommunication Services Office of Information Technology University of Minnesota 2218 University Ave SE Phone: 612-626-0815 Minneapolis, MN 55414-3029 Cell: 612-812-9952 ===============================================

July 7, 2017