September 2016 - mice-discuss

Re: Richard Laager Board Seat

by Mike Horwath

On Wed, Sep 07, 2016 at 08:25:57AM -0500, Jason Hanke wrote: > Richard Laager has thrown his hat in the ring for the open MICE board seat. Awesome! 3 party voting! :) -- Mike Horwath, reachable via drechsau(a)Geeks.ORG

Sept. 7, 2016

Candidate Question

by Jason Hanke

Question for all candidates- Up to this point MICE has been fairly successful without any required port fees for members. There have been minor difficulties paying hardware support and annual ARIN fees. We have reached a long-term (5 year) agreement with Cologix to continue the existing no cost relationship for space and power. Do you see the finical current model as sustainable for MICE? What changes would you suggest on the business side? -- Jay Hanke CTO Neutral Path Communications 3 Civic Center Plaza, Suite 204 Mankato, MN 56001 (507) 327-2398 mobile jayhanke(a)neutralpath.net www.neutralpath.net

Sept. 7, 2016

Richard Laager Board Seat

by Jason Hanke

Richard Laager has thrown his hat in the ring for the open MICE board seat. -- Jay Hanke CTO Neutral Path Communications 3 Civic Center Plaza, Suite 204 Mankato, MN 56001 (507) 327-2398 mobile jayhanke(a)neutralpath.net www.neutralpath.net

Sept. 7, 2016

Re: [Peering-lists] [MICE-DISCUSS] [MICE-DISCUSS] MICE UG/Elections

by Jeremy Lumby

Owen, Thanks for the answers, I just wanted to get the discussion going since you will not be at the meeting. Jeremy From: MICE Discuss [mailto:MICE-DISCUSS@LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET] On Behalf Of DeLong, Owen Sent: Wednesday, September 07, 2016 12:48 AM To: MICE-DISCUSS(a)LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET Subject: Re: [MICE-DISCUSS] [Peering-lists] [MICE-DISCUSS] [MICE-DISCUSS] MICE UG/Elections On Sep 6, 2016, at 21:28 , Jeremy Lumby <jlumby(a)MNVOIP.COM> wrote: Owen, Since you will not be around for the meeting, would you mind answering a couple questions so the membership knows where you stand on the following issues? PVLAN service. What are your opinions on if MICE should offer it or not. I’m mostly agnostic. If we have the technical bandwidth to provide it and we have members that feel it adds value to the exchange, I’m not opposed to doing it. However, we should not let it negatively impact the core mission as a carrier neutral cooperative exchange. Do you see any major conflicts between your other affiliations/obligations and MICE? I am interested both from the standpoint of availability, as well as from the professional interest point of view. If I saw any conflicts, I would not have stepped up to run. Akamai is a long standing member of MICE and I believe that what is good for MICE is also beneficial to Akamai. Should a situation arise where I see that Akamai could benefit in an unbalanced way from a decision faced by the MICE board, I would immediately disclose that information to my fellow board members and recuse myself from any votes on the matter. I cannot imagine a scenario where my role on the ARIN AC could pose a conflict of interest with my duties to the MICE board. In terms of availability, I recognize that joining the board of an exchange requires taking the time to do the job right and I would endeavor to be present either physically or remotely for as many meetings as possible as well as attending to ancillary duties outside of meetings as they arose. I realize that not being present for the election meeting does not set me off on the right foot in this area. LACNIC and ARIN are a total of 4 meetings per year. Hopefully going forward MICE will at least work around the ARIN meetings and I suspect conflicts with LACNIC meetings will be the exception rather than the rule. I hope this adequately addresses your concerns. Owen Jeremy Lumby Minnesota VoIP 9217 17th Ave S Suite 216 Bloomington, MN 55425 Main: 612-355-7740 x211 Direct: 612-392-6814 EFax: 952-873-7425 jlumby(a)mnvoip.com From: MICE Discuss [mailto:MICE-DISCUSS@LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET] On Behalf Of DeLong, Owen Sent: Tuesday, September 06, 2016 2:48 PM To: MICE-DISCUSS(a)LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET Subject: Re: [MICE-DISCUSS] [Peering-lists] [MICE-DISCUSS] MICE UG/Elections I will be in Costa Rica for LACNIC on that date. As such, I will unfortunately be unable to attend, even remotely. As such, I would like to take this opportunity to make a brief statement for the consideration of the membership regarding my candidacy… As most of you know, I have been a fan of MICE virtually since its inception. I think that the leadership to date has done an excellent job keeping MICE as an open volunteer-run community exchange and I would appreciate the opportunity to continue in that tradition. I believe that my long history serving the community as a member of the ARIN Advisory Council and my record as an active participant on various community-oriented lists for many years shows my commitment to the community and my desire to serve. I believe that in terms of skills and abilities I have the necessary understanding of the community and the environment and structure of exchange points and peering, not only in terms of the people and networks involved, but also the fiscal realities and the efforts involved in keeping this a vibrant and effective effort on behalf of the community. I appreciate your consideration and your confidence. If you have any questions, please feel free to email me at any time. Owen DeLong owen(a)akamai.com (work) owen(a)delong.com (personal) On Sep 6, 2016, at 09:22 , Jason Hanke <jayhanke(a)neutralpath.net> wrote: We will be holding elections at the MICE UG on September 27th. As of now we have two candidates listed in the spreadsheet. Owen Delong (Akamai) James Renken (ipHouse) If your name is missing from the list or you would like to be on the list please email peering(a)micemn.net. The nomination period will close September 20th. Also, please RSVP to the Facebook event if you're planning to attend. https://www.facebook.com/events/1734560673466829/ Thanks! -- Jay Hanke CTO Neutral Path Communications 3 Civic Center Plaza, Suite 204 Mankato, MN 56001 (507) 327-2398 mobile jayhanke(a)neutralpath.net www.neutralpath.net To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1 To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1 To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1 To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1

Sept. 7, 2016

Re: [Peering-lists] [MICE-DISCUSS] [MICE-DISCUSS] MICE UG/Elections

by DeLong, Owen

On Sep 6, 2016, at 21:28 , Jeremy Lumby <jlumby(a)MNVOIP.COM<mailto:jlumby@mnvoip.com>> wrote: Owen, Since you will not be around for the meeting, would you mind answering a couple questions so the membership knows where you stand on the following issues? PVLAN service. What are your opinions on if MICE should offer it or not. I’m mostly agnostic. If we have the technical bandwidth to provide it and we have members that feel it adds value to the exchange, I’m not opposed to doing it. However, we should not let it negatively impact the core mission as a carrier neutral cooperative exchange. Do you see any major conflicts between your other affiliations/obligations and MICE? I am interested both from the standpoint of availability, as well as from the professional interest point of view. If I saw any conflicts, I would not have stepped up to run. Akamai is a long standing member of MICE and I believe that what is good for MICE is also beneficial to Akamai. Should a situation arise where I see that Akamai could benefit in an unbalanced way from a decision faced by the MICE board, I would immediately disclose that information to my fellow board members and recuse myself from any votes on the matter. I cannot imagine a scenario where my role on the ARIN AC could pose a conflict of interest with my duties to the MICE board. In terms of availability, I recognize that joining the board of an exchange requires taking the time to do the job right and I would endeavor to be present either physically or remotely for as many meetings as possible as well as attending to ancillary duties outside of meetings as they arose. I realize that not being present for the election meeting does not set me off on the right foot in this area. LACNIC and ARIN are a total of 4 meetings per year. Hopefully going forward MICE will at least work around the ARIN meetings and I suspect conflicts with LACNIC meetings will be the exception rather than the rule. I hope this adequately addresses your concerns. Owen Jeremy Lumby Minnesota VoIP 9217 17th Ave S Suite 216 Bloomington, MN 55425 Main: 612-355-7740 x211 Direct: 612-392-6814 EFax: 952-873-7425 jlumby(a)mnvoip.com<mailto:jlumby@mnvoip.com> From: MICE Discuss [mailto:MICE-DISCUSS@LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET] On Behalf Of DeLong, Owen Sent: Tuesday, September 06, 2016 2:48 PM To: MICE-DISCUSS(a)LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET<mailto:MICE-DISCUSS@lists.iphouse.net> Subject: Re: [MICE-DISCUSS] [Peering-lists] [MICE-DISCUSS] MICE UG/Elections I will be in Costa Rica for LACNIC on that date. As such, I will unfortunately be unable to attend, even remotely. As such, I would like to take this opportunity to make a brief statement for the consideration of the membership regarding my candidacy… As most of you know, I have been a fan of MICE virtually since its inception. I think that the leadership to date has done an excellent job keeping MICE as an open volunteer-run community exchange and I would appreciate the opportunity to continue in that tradition. I believe that my long history serving the community as a member of the ARIN Advisory Council and my record as an active participant on various community-oriented lists for many years shows my commitment to the community and my desire to serve. I believe that in terms of skills and abilities I have the necessary understanding of the community and the environment and structure of exchange points and peering, not only in terms of the people and networks involved, but also the fiscal realities and the efforts involved in keeping this a vibrant and effective effort on behalf of the community. I appreciate your consideration and your confidence. If you have any questions, please feel free to email me at any time. Owen DeLong owen(a)akamai.com<mailto:owen@akamai.com> (work) owen(a)delong.com<mailto:owen@delong.com> (personal) On Sep 6, 2016, at 09:22 , Jason Hanke <jayhanke(a)neutralpath.net<mailto:jayhanke@neutralpath.net>> wrote: We will be holding elections at the MICE UG on September 27th. As of now we have two candidates listed in the spreadsheet. Owen Delong (Akamai) James Renken (ipHouse) If your name is missing from the list or you would like to be on the list please email peering(a)micemn.net<mailto:peering@micemn.net>. The nomination period will close September 20th. Also, please RSVP to the Facebook event if you're planning to attend. https://www.facebook.com/events/1734560673466829/<https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__www.facebook.com_event…> Thanks! -- Jay Hanke CTO Neutral Path Communications 3 Civic Center Plaza, Suite 204 Mankato, MN 56001 (507) 327-2398 mobile jayhanke(a)neutralpath.net<mailto:jayhanke@neutralpath.net> www.neutralpath.net<https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__www.neutralpath.net&d=D…> ________________________________ To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1<https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__lists.iphouse.net_cgi-2…> ________________________________ To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1<https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__lists.iphouse.net_cgi-2…> ________________________________ To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1<https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__lists.iphouse.net_cgi-2…>

Sept. 7, 2016

Re: [Peering-lists] [MICE-DISCUSS] MICE UG/Elections

by Jeremy Lumby

Owen, Since you will not be around for the meeting, would you mind answering a couple questions so the membership knows where you stand on the following issues? PVLAN service. What are your opinions on if MICE should offer it or not. Do you see any major conflicts between your other affiliations/obligations and MICE? I am interested both from the standpoint of availability, as well as from the professional interest point of view. Jeremy Lumby Minnesota VoIP 9217 17th Ave S Suite 216 Bloomington, MN 55425 Main: 612-355-7740 x211 Direct: 612-392-6814 EFax: 952-873-7425 jlumby(a)mnvoip.com From: MICE Discuss [mailto:MICE-DISCUSS@LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET] On Behalf Of DeLong, Owen Sent: Tuesday, September 06, 2016 2:48 PM To: MICE-DISCUSS(a)LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET Subject: Re: [MICE-DISCUSS] [Peering-lists] [MICE-DISCUSS] MICE UG/Elections I will be in Costa Rica for LACNIC on that date. As such, I will unfortunately be unable to attend, even remotely. As such, I would like to take this opportunity to make a brief statement for the consideration of the membership regarding my candidacy… As most of you know, I have been a fan of MICE virtually since its inception. I think that the leadership to date has done an excellent job keeping MICE as an open volunteer-run community exchange and I would appreciate the opportunity to continue in that tradition. I believe that my long history serving the community as a member of the ARIN Advisory Council and my record as an active participant on various community-oriented lists for many years shows my commitment to the community and my desire to serve. I believe that in terms of skills and abilities I have the necessary understanding of the community and the environment and structure of exchange points and peering, not only in terms of the people and networks involved, but also the fiscal realities and the efforts involved in keeping this a vibrant and effective effort on behalf of the community. I appreciate your consideration and your confidence. If you have any questions, please feel free to email me at any time. Owen DeLong owen(a)akamai.com (work) owen(a)delong.com (personal) On Sep 6, 2016, at 09:22 , Jason Hanke <jayhanke(a)neutralpath.net> wrote: We will be holding elections at the MICE UG on September 27th. As of now we have two candidates listed in the spreadsheet. Owen Delong (Akamai) James Renken (ipHouse) If your name is missing from the list or you would like to be on the list please email peering(a)micemn.net. The nomination period will close September 20th. Also, please RSVP to the Facebook event if you're planning to attend. https://www.facebook.com/events/1734560673466829/ Thanks! -- Jay Hanke CTO Neutral Path Communications 3 Civic Center Plaza, Suite 204 Mankato, MN 56001 (507) 327-2398 mobile jayhanke(a)neutralpath.net www.neutralpath.net To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1 To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1

Sept. 7, 2016

Re: [Peering-lists] [MICE-DISCUSS] MICE UG/Elections

by DeLong, Owen

I will be in Costa Rica for LACNIC on that date. As such, I will unfortunately be unable to attend, even remotely. As such, I would like to take this opportunity to make a brief statement for the consideration of the membership regarding my candidacy… As most of you know, I have been a fan of MICE virtually since its inception. I think that the leadership to date has done an excellent job keeping MICE as an open volunteer-run community exchange and I would appreciate the opportunity to continue in that tradition. I believe that my long history serving the community as a member of the ARIN Advisory Council and my record as an active participant on various community-oriented lists for many years shows my commitment to the community and my desire to serve. I believe that in terms of skills and abilities I have the necessary understanding of the community and the environment and structure of exchange points and peering, not only in terms of the people and networks involved, but also the fiscal realities and the efforts involved in keeping this a vibrant and effective effort on behalf of the community. I appreciate your consideration and your confidence. If you have any questions, please feel free to email me at any time. Owen DeLong owen(a)akamai.com<mailto:owen@akamai.com> (work) owen(a)delong.com<mailto:owen@delong.com> (personal) On Sep 6, 2016, at 09:22 , Jason Hanke <jayhanke(a)neutralpath.net<mailto:jayhanke@neutralpath.net>> wrote: We will be holding elections at the MICE UG on September 27th. As of now we have two candidates listed in the spreadsheet. Owen Delong (Akamai) James Renken (ipHouse) If your name is missing from the list or you would like to be on the list please email peering(a)micemn.net<mailto:peering@micemn.net>. The nomination period will close September 20th. Also, please RSVP to the Facebook event if you're planning to attend. https://www.facebook.com/events/1734560673466829/<https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__www.facebook.com_event…> Thanks! -- Jay Hanke CTO Neutral Path Communications 3 Civic Center Plaza, Suite 204 Mankato, MN 56001 (507) 327-2398 mobile jayhanke(a)neutralpath.net<mailto:jayhanke@neutralpath.net> www.neutralpath.net<https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__www.neutralpath.net&d=D…> ________________________________ To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1<https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__lists.iphouse.net_cgi-2…>

Sept. 6, 2016

MICE UG/Elections

by Jason Hanke

We will be holding elections at the MICE UG on September 27th. As of now we have two candidates listed in the spreadsheet. Owen Delong (Akamai) James Renken (ipHouse) If your name is missing from the list or you would like to be on the list please email peering(a)micemn.net. The nomination period will close September 20th. Also, please RSVP to the Facebook event if you're planning to attend. https://www.facebook.com/events/1734560673466829/ Thanks! -- Jay Hanke CTO Neutral Path Communications 3 Civic Center Plaza, Suite 204 Mankato, MN 56001 (507) 327-2398 mobile jayhanke(a)neutralpath.net www.neutralpath.net

Sept. 6, 2016

Re: MICE Traffic Growth

by Jonathan Stewart

I'm not aware of any bigger. NWAX is large but less than MICE. Until recently all the big US exchanges (save SIX) have been profit-making corporations, from what I know. On Fri, Sep 2, 2016 at 1:25 PM, Jason Hanke <jayhanke(a)neutralpath.net> wrote: > I did a quick look at peeringdb.com and worked off of memory. Most of the > member IXs are quite small. > > On Fri, Sep 2, 2016 at 1:20 PM, Jonathan Stewart < > jonathan.stewart(a)gmail.com> wrote: > >> Well, do you know which IXes are non-profit? Is there a list you're >> aware of? >> >> On Wed, Aug 31, 2016 at 4:16 PM, Jason Hanke <jayhanke(a)neutralpath.net> >> wrote: >> >>> Using the double counting method, MICE ran 176 Gbps using 30 minute >>> averages Sunday night. >>> >>> I believe we might be the second largest non-profit ix in the US by >>> traffic behind the SIX. Does anyone have an easy way to verify? >>> >>> -- >>> Jay Hanke >>> CTO >>> Neutral Path Communications >>> 3 Civic Center Plaza, Suite 204 >>> Mankato, MN 56001 >>> (507) 327-2398 mobile >>> jayhanke(a)neutralpath.net >>> www.neutralpath.net >>> >> >> >> >> -- >> Jonathan >> >> ------------------------------ >> >> To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: >> http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1 >> > > > > -- > Jay Hanke > CTO > Neutral Path Communications > 3 Civic Center Plaza, Suite 204 > Mankato, MN 56001 > (507) 327-2398 mobile > jayhanke(a)neutralpath.net > www.neutralpath.net > > ------------------------------ > > To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: > http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1 > -- Jonathan

Sept. 2, 2016

Re: MICE Traffic Growth

by Jason Hanke

I did a quick look at peeringdb.com and worked off of memory. Most of the member IXs are quite small. On Fri, Sep 2, 2016 at 1:20 PM, Jonathan Stewart <jonathan.stewart(a)gmail.com > wrote: > Well, do you know which IXes are non-profit? Is there a list you're aware > of? > > On Wed, Aug 31, 2016 at 4:16 PM, Jason Hanke <jayhanke(a)neutralpath.net> > wrote: > >> Using the double counting method, MICE ran 176 Gbps using 30 minute >> averages Sunday night. >> >> I believe we might be the second largest non-profit ix in the US by >> traffic behind the SIX. Does anyone have an easy way to verify? >> >> -- >> Jay Hanke >> CTO >> Neutral Path Communications >> 3 Civic Center Plaza, Suite 204 >> Mankato, MN 56001 >> (507) 327-2398 mobile >> jayhanke(a)neutralpath.net >> www.neutralpath.net >> > > > > -- > Jonathan > > ------------------------------ > > To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: > http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1 > -- Jay Hanke CTO Neutral Path Communications 3 Civic Center Plaza, Suite 204 Mankato, MN 56001 (507) 327-2398 mobile jayhanke(a)neutralpath.net www.neutralpath.net

Sept. 2, 2016