January 2014 - mice-discuss - lists.micemn.net

"Toward Efficiencies in Canadian Internet Traffic Exchange" - a good read for us too, i think

by Mike O'Connor

hi all, i was thinking this might be interesting for y’all, even though it’s got a Canadian slant. lots of their arguments apply to us as well, no? i’m reluctant to hit this list with a 2.5 mB attachment, so here’s a link http://www.cira.ca/assets/Uploads/Toward-Efficiencies-in-Canadian-Internet-… here are a few teaser bullet points from the first page Key benefits: By reducing reliance on costly international data transit, additional ISPs will reduce networks’ ongoing operational costs. These cost savings will flow to Canadian Internet users, and unnecessary export of capital will be reduced. By providing high-speed domestic links, additional ISPs will increase the amount of bandwidth available to Canadian users, mitigating networks’ bandwidth shortages and removing networks’ incentives to impose bandwidth throttling and usage caps. By favoring shorter and more direct routes, additional ISPs will reduce network latency, improving the performance of new services like video and could-based applications. By allowing Canadian data to remain in Canada as much as possible and as often as possible, additional ISPs will reduce the risk of Canadian data becoming subject to foreign laws and practices. By increasing the richness and density of connections between Canadian networks, additional ISPs will increase the reliability of internet access in Canada and its resilience to disaster and attack. among other things, there’s an interesting discussion of Governance Structures about midway through this piece. there’s a Challenges and Responses section right after that. as a retired “suit,” i found it a good read. ;-) mikey PHONE: 651-647-6109, FAX: 866-280-2356, WEB: www.haven2.com, HANDLE: OConnorStP (ID for Twitter, Facebook, LinkedIn, etc.) ######################################################################## To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1

Jan. 29, 2014

Re: Welcome HCMC to MICE!

by Brady Kittel

Thanks Anthony, We should be adding the optic and standing up the session in the next couple of weeks once our new juniper hardware is live. We're just trying to keep up with Dave as he keeps spoiling our medical residents over there. :D On Tue, Jan 28, 2014 at 3:41 PM, Anthony Anderberg < anthonyanderberg(a)nu-telecom.net> wrote: > Welcome HCMC folks! I don't see an optic in the switch so I can't add > you to the graphs yet, but you should be ready to go in the MICE route > servers. > > Certain routers will require the BGP command "no bgp enforce-first-as", > everything else should be just as you'd expect. > > Let us know if anything seems wrong or silly, > anthony > > > Anthony Anderberg > Sr. Systems Analyst > 320-234-5239 > anthonyanderberg(a)nu-telecom.net > www.nutelecom.net > > -----Original Message----- > From: MICE Discuss [mailto:MICE-DISCUSS@LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET] On Behalf Of > Jay Hanke > Sent: Tuesday, January 28, 2014 2:30 PM > To: MICE-DISCUSS(a)LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET > Subject: [MICE-DISCUSS] Welcome HCMC to MICE! > > HCMC > Main Switch Port xe-0/0/36 > ASN 40413 > IPv4: 206.108.255.29 > IPv6: 2001:504:27:0:0:9ddd::1 > Contact: Daniel.Huwe(a)hcmed.org > Max prefix: 15 > > Please update route server configurations and update the website. > > Thanks! > > -- > Jay Hanke > CTO, CCIE #19093 > Mankato Networks LLC > PO Box 54 > 619 S Front St > Mankato, MN 56001-3838 > Google 530-618-2398 > jayhanke(a)mankatonetworks.net > http://www.mankatonetworks.com > http://www.neutralpath.net > > ######################################################################## > > To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: > http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1 > > ######################################################################## > > To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: > http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1 > ######################################################################## To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1

Jan. 29, 2014

Re: Welcome HCMC to MICE!

by Anthony Anderberg

Welcome HCMC folks! I don't see an optic in the switch so I can't add you to the graphs yet, but you should be ready to go in the MICE route servers. Certain routers will require the BGP command "no bgp enforce-first-as", everything else should be just as you'd expect. Let us know if anything seems wrong or silly, anthony Anthony Anderberg Sr. Systems Analyst 320-234-5239 anthonyanderberg(a)nu-telecom.net www.nutelecom.net -----Original Message----- From: MICE Discuss [mailto:MICE-DISCUSS@LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET] On Behalf Of Jay Hanke Sent: Tuesday, January 28, 2014 2:30 PM To: MICE-DISCUSS(a)LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET Subject: [MICE-DISCUSS] Welcome HCMC to MICE! HCMC Main Switch Port xe-0/0/36 ASN 40413 IPv4: 206.108.255.29 IPv6: 2001:504:27:0:0:9ddd::1 Contact: Daniel.Huwe(a)hcmed.org Max prefix: 15 Please update route server configurations and update the website. Thanks! -- Jay Hanke CTO, CCIE #19093 Mankato Networks LLC PO Box 54 619 S Front St Mankato, MN 56001-3838 Google 530-618-2398 jayhanke(a)mankatonetworks.net http://www.mankatonetworks.com http://www.neutralpath.net ######################################################################## To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1 ######################################################################## To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1

Jan. 28, 2014

Welcome HCMC to MICE!

by Jay Hanke

HCMC Main Switch Port xe-0/0/36 ASN 40413 IPv4: 206.108.255.29 IPv6: 2001:504:27:0:0:9ddd::1 Contact: Daniel.Huwe(a)hcmed.org Max prefix: 15 Please update route server configurations and update the website. Thanks! -- Jay Hanke CTO, CCIE #19093 Mankato Networks LLC PO Box 54 619 S Front St Mankato, MN 56001-3838 Google 530-618-2398 jayhanke(a)mankatonetworks.net http://www.mankatonetworks.com http://www.neutralpath.net ######################################################################## To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1

Jan. 28, 2014

Akamai (20940) < > MICEMN Network Fail

by Hannigan, Martin

Quick update. There is what appears to be a layer 1 network problem and our vendor is slow to respond. I am going to suspend this system entirely since the traffic is inconsistent. I have made the priority with our break fix team. Bear with us. Best, Martin Hannigan Akamai Technologies, Inc. AS 20940 ######################################################################## To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1

Jan. 28, 2014

Re: Traffic Drop

by Hannigan, Martin

On Jan 22, 2014, at 4:24 PM, David Farmer <farmer(a)UMN.EDU> wrote: > We have recently significantly upgraded our local Akamai cluster, and > school just started Tuesday, so it looks like we aren't drawing as much > out of the MICE Akamai cluster any more. Yes, this does appear to have had some effect. As well, there appears to have been a networking problem with our cache fill transit provider that caused our servers to limit traffic sporadically as our providers network bounced in and out of a quality range (errs, drops, etc.). I am not positive it is completely fixed. Thanks, -M< ######################################################################## To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1

Jan. 24, 2014

Re: Traffic Drop

by Russell Berg

Airstream has seen its in/out pattern flip-flop over the past 5 weeks... [cid:image001.png@01CF184B.D2D10040] Russ Russell Berg Senior Director - Products and Services Airstream Communications -----Original Message----- From: MICE Discuss [mailto:MICE-DISCUSS@LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET] On Behalf Of Beatrice, Tim L Sent: Thursday, January 23, 2014 8:36 AM To: MICE-DISCUSS(a)LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET Subject: Re: [MICE-DISCUSS] Traffic Drop My traffic has been increasing over the exchange. -----Original Message----- From: MICE Discuss [mailto:MICE-DISCUSS@LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET] On Behalf Of Jay Hanke Sent: Thursday, January 23, 2014 8:25 AM To: MICE-DISCUSS(a)LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET<mailto:MICE-DISCUSS@LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET> Subject: Re: [MICE-DISCUSS] Traffic Drop I don't think that is the whole issue. The traffic is down across almost all of the connections. Upgrading the cluster at the U would explain a drop in the gigapop traffic and the corresponding overall traffic drop. It doesn't explain the outbound drop (80%+ on some links) everywhere else. On Wed, Jan 22, 2014 at 6:24 PM, David Farmer <farmer(a)umn.edu<mailto:farmer@umn.edu>> wrote: > We have recently significantly upgraded our local Akamai cluster, and > school just started Tuesday, so it looks like we aren't drawing as > much out of the MICE Akamai cluster any more. > > > > On 1/22/14, 09:30 , Dean Bahls wrote: >> >> Wondering if anyone knows the specifics behind the dramatic drop in >> MICE traffic that started about a week ago. >> >> Thanks! >> >> Dean >> >> Dean Bahls >> >> Network Services Manager >> >> Cooperative Network Services, LLC >> >> (218) 346-3635 (office) >> >> dean.bahls(a)cooperative-networks.com<mailto:dean.bahls@cooperative-networks.com> >> >> >> --------------------------------------------------------------------- >> --- >> >> >> To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: >> http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1 >> > > > -- > ================================================ > David Farmer Email: farmer(a)umn.edu<mailto:farmer@umn.edu> > Office of Information Technology > University of Minnesota > 2218 University Ave SE Phone: 1-612-626-0815 > Minneapolis, MN 55414-3029 Cell: 1-612-812-9952 > ================================================ > > ###################################################################### > ## > > > To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: > http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1 -- Jay Hanke CTO, CCIE #19093 Mankato Networks LLC PO Box 54 619 S Front St Mankato, MN 56001-3838 Google 530-618-2398 jayhanke(a)mankatonetworks.net<mailto:jayhanke@mankatonetworks.net> http://www.mankatonetworks.com http://www.neutralpath.net ######################################################################## To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1 ######################################################################## To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1 ######################################################################## To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1

Jan. 23, 2014

Re: Traffic Drop

by Hannigan, Martin

And... there is a problem. We will deal. Best, Martin > On Jan 23, 2014, at 6:26, "Hannigan, Martin" <marty(a)AKAMAI.COM> wrote: > > I'm en route from PTC Hawaii to Boston and will take a look at our peering health this weekend. > > Best, > > Martin > > > >> On Jan 23, 2014, at 4:25, "Jay Hanke" <jayhanke(a)MANKATONETWORKS.NET> wrote: >> >> I don't think that is the whole issue. The traffic is down across >> almost all of the connections. Upgrading the cluster at the U would >> explain a drop in the gigapop traffic and the corresponding overall >> traffic drop. It doesn't explain the outbound drop (80%+ on some >> links) everywhere else. >> >>> On Wed, Jan 22, 2014 at 6:24 PM, David Farmer <farmer(a)umn.edu> wrote: >>> We have recently significantly upgraded our local Akamai cluster, and school >>> just started Tuesday, so it looks like we aren't drawing as much out of the >>> MICE Akamai cluster any more. >>> >>> >>> >>>> On 1/22/14, 09:30 , Dean Bahls wrote: >>>> >>>> Wondering if anyone knows the specifics behind the dramatic drop in MICE >>>> traffic that started about a week ago. >>>> >>>> Thanks! >>>> >>>> Dean >>>> >>>> Dean Bahls >>>> >>>> Network Services Manager >>>> >>>> Cooperative Network Services, LLC >>>> >>>> (218) 346-3635 (office) >>>> >>>> dean.bahls(a)cooperative-networks.com >>>> >>>> >>>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------ >>>> >>>> >>>> To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: >>>> http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1 >>> >>> >>> -- >>> ================================================ >>> David Farmer Email: farmer(a)umn.edu >>> Office of Information Technology >>> University of Minnesota >>> 2218 University Ave SE Phone: 1-612-626-0815 >>> Minneapolis, MN 55414-3029 Cell: 1-612-812-9952 >>> ================================================ >>> >>> ######################################################################## >>> >>> >>> To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: >>> http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1 >> >> >> >> -- >> Jay Hanke >> CTO, CCIE #19093 >> Mankato Networks LLC >> PO Box 54 >> 619 S Front St >> Mankato, MN 56001-3838 >> Google 530-618-2398 >> jayhanke(a)mankatonetworks.net >> http://www.mankatonetworks.com >> http://www.neutralpath.net >> >> ######################################################################## >> >> To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: >> http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1 > > ######################################################################## > > To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: > http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1 ######################################################################## To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1

Jan. 23, 2014

Re: Traffic Drop

by Hannigan, Martin

I'm en route from PTC Hawaii to Boston and will take a look at our peering health this weekend. Best, Martin > On Jan 23, 2014, at 4:25, "Jay Hanke" <jayhanke(a)MANKATONETWORKS.NET> wrote: > > I don't think that is the whole issue. The traffic is down across > almost all of the connections. Upgrading the cluster at the U would > explain a drop in the gigapop traffic and the corresponding overall > traffic drop. It doesn't explain the outbound drop (80%+ on some > links) everywhere else. > >> On Wed, Jan 22, 2014 at 6:24 PM, David Farmer <farmer(a)umn.edu> wrote: >> We have recently significantly upgraded our local Akamai cluster, and school >> just started Tuesday, so it looks like we aren't drawing as much out of the >> MICE Akamai cluster any more. >> >> >> >>> On 1/22/14, 09:30 , Dean Bahls wrote: >>> >>> Wondering if anyone knows the specifics behind the dramatic drop in MICE >>> traffic that started about a week ago. >>> >>> Thanks! >>> >>> Dean >>> >>> Dean Bahls >>> >>> Network Services Manager >>> >>> Cooperative Network Services, LLC >>> >>> (218) 346-3635 (office) >>> >>> dean.bahls(a)cooperative-networks.com >>> >>> >>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------ >>> >>> >>> To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: >>> http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1 >> >> >> -- >> ================================================ >> David Farmer Email: farmer(a)umn.edu >> Office of Information Technology >> University of Minnesota >> 2218 University Ave SE Phone: 1-612-626-0815 >> Minneapolis, MN 55414-3029 Cell: 1-612-812-9952 >> ================================================ >> >> ######################################################################## >> >> >> To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: >> http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1 > > > > -- > Jay Hanke > CTO, CCIE #19093 > Mankato Networks LLC > PO Box 54 > 619 S Front St > Mankato, MN 56001-3838 > Google 530-618-2398 > jayhanke(a)mankatonetworks.net > http://www.mankatonetworks.com > http://www.neutralpath.net > > ######################################################################## > > To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: > http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1 ######################################################################## To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1

Jan. 23, 2014

Re: Traffic Drop

by Beatrice, Tim L

My traffic has been increasing over the exchange. -----Original Message----- From: MICE Discuss [mailto:MICE-DISCUSS@LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET] On Behalf Of Jay Hanke Sent: Thursday, January 23, 2014 8:25 AM To: MICE-DISCUSS(a)LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET Subject: Re: [MICE-DISCUSS] Traffic Drop I don't think that is the whole issue. The traffic is down across almost all of the connections. Upgrading the cluster at the U would explain a drop in the gigapop traffic and the corresponding overall traffic drop. It doesn't explain the outbound drop (80%+ on some links) everywhere else. On Wed, Jan 22, 2014 at 6:24 PM, David Farmer <farmer(a)umn.edu> wrote: > We have recently significantly upgraded our local Akamai cluster, and > school just started Tuesday, so it looks like we aren't drawing as > much out of the MICE Akamai cluster any more. > > > > On 1/22/14, 09:30 , Dean Bahls wrote: >> >> Wondering if anyone knows the specifics behind the dramatic drop in >> MICE traffic that started about a week ago. >> >> Thanks! >> >> Dean >> >> Dean Bahls >> >> Network Services Manager >> >> Cooperative Network Services, LLC >> >> (218) 346-3635 (office) >> >> dean.bahls(a)cooperative-networks.com >> >> >> --------------------------------------------------------------------- >> --- >> >> >> To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: >> http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1 >> > > > -- > ================================================ > David Farmer Email: farmer(a)umn.edu > Office of Information Technology > University of Minnesota > 2218 University Ave SE Phone: 1-612-626-0815 > Minneapolis, MN 55414-3029 Cell: 1-612-812-9952 > ================================================ > > ###################################################################### > ## > > > To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: > http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1 -- Jay Hanke CTO, CCIE #19093 Mankato Networks LLC PO Box 54 619 S Front St Mankato, MN 56001-3838 Google 530-618-2398 jayhanke(a)mankatonetworks.net http://www.mankatonetworks.com http://www.neutralpath.net ######################################################################## To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1 ######################################################################## To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1

Jan. 23, 2014