August 2012 - mice-discuss - lists.micemn.net

Re: Juniper Switch upgrade

by Mike Horwath

On Mon, Aug 20, 2012 at 10:50:00AM -0500, Jeremy Lumby wrote: > If it is done during the day, I plan on putting my BGP sessions into > shutdown the night before What if I just shut down the route servers (well, BIRD) for the duration. The routes would disappear from your networks automatically. Users doing bi-lateral may want to keep an eye on things but the multi-lateral users could be easily taken care of by doing the simple item above. -- Mike Horwath ipHouse - Welcome home! drechsau(a)iphouse.net The universe is an island, surrounded by whatever it is that surrounds universes. - Berkeley Fortune ######################################################################## To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1

Aug. 20, 2012

Re: MICE Finances 8/15/2012

by Mike Horwath

On Wed, Aug 15, 2012 at 11:03:34PM -0500, Jay Hanke wrote: > As of 8/15/2012: > > Paypal $990.40 > Checking $8100 > Total Cash $9090.40 > > Liabilities: > Accounts Payable $10,015.18 > > Owners Equity: -$924.78 > > We're currently $924.78 from being break even. I'm excited to write the checks! -- Mike Horwath ipHouse - Welcome home! drechsau(a)iphouse.net The universe is an island, surrounded by whatever it is that surrounds universes. - Berkeley Fortune ######################################################################## To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1

Aug. 20, 2012

Re: Juniper Switch upgrade

by Jeremy Lumby

If it is done during the day, I plan on putting my BGP sessions into shutdown the night before From: MICE Discuss [mailto:MICE-DISCUSS@LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET] On Behalf Of Justin Krejci Sent: Monday, August 20, 2012 10:44 AM To: MICE-DISCUSS(a)LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET Subject: Re: [MICE-DISCUSS] Juniper Switch upgrade As with most access network and business hosting providers our lowest utilization is middle of the night which would have the lowest perceived impact. That said any time can be convenient if we have some time to adjust BGP configs to move traffic away in advance, which during business hours is typically convenient. On Mon, 2012-08-20 at 08:19 -0500, Mike Bushard, Jr wrote: Fellow Members, Anthony and I are looking for input on when to do the switch upgrade/change out. We are looking at the 30th of this month for the date of the cut. What are the general thoughts for time? Obviously during the day would be nicest for us, but we realize that may create issues for some members so we are asking for some input on a time. If your OK with a "Business Hour" cut, let us know that also. Mike Bushard, Jr ######################################################################## To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1 To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1 ######################################################################## To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1

Aug. 20, 2012

Re: Juniper Switch upgrade

by Justin Krejci

As with most access network and business hosting providers our lowest utilization is middle of the night which would have the lowest perceived impact. That said any time can be convenient if we have some time to adjust BGP configs to move traffic away in advance, which during business hours is typically convenient. On Mon, 2012-08-20 at 08:19 -0500, Mike Bushard, Jr wrote: > Fellow Members, > > Anthony and I are looking for input on when to do the switch > upgrade/change out. We are looking at the 30th of this month for the date > of the cut. > > What are the general thoughts for time? Obviously during the day would be > nicest for us, but we realize that may create issues for some members so > we are asking for some input on a time. If your OK with a "Business Hour" > cut, let us know that also. > > Mike Bushard, Jr > > ######################################################################## > > To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: > http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1 ######################################################################## To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1

Aug. 20, 2012

Juniper Switch upgrade

by Mike Bushard, Jr

Fellow Members, Anthony and I are looking for input on when to do the switch upgrade/change out. We are looking at the 30th of this month for the date of the cut. What are the general thoughts for time? Obviously during the day would be nicest for us, but we realize that may create issues for some members so we are asking for some input on a time. If your OK with a "Business Hour" cut, let us know that also. Mike Bushard, Jr ######################################################################## To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1

Aug. 20, 2012

Re: Packet loss between GigaPOP and Onvoy/Zayo

by Mike Bushard, Jr

I'd have to agree Jeremy. Phil S from 7 Sigma and I have been working on a packet loss issue between CTC and Melrose/Benton/Albany for 2-3 months. We recently started noticing packet loss between Melrose and Perham via Zayo also, but they claim they never find anything on either of the complaints. Earlier this week I got a call about another location having issues, that one looked to be a L3 to TDS issue and not Zayo, but with all this I am having second thoughts. Hopefully enough barking will convince them. Mike Bushard, Jr -----Original Message----- From: MICE Discuss [mailto:MICE-DISCUSS@LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET] On Behalf Of Jeremy Lumby Sent: Friday, August 17, 2012 3:04 PM To: MICE-DISCUSS(a)LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET Subject: Re: [MICE-DISCUSS] Packetloss between GigaPOP and Onvoy/Zayo I have a feeling it has been going on for months, today is just the first I have spent some time to gather some concrete evidence -----Original Message----- From: MICE Discuss [mailto:MICE-DISCUSS@LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET] On Behalf Of Anthony Anderberg Sent: Friday, August 17, 2012 2:51 PM To: MICE-DISCUSS(a)LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET Subject: Re: [MICE-DISCUSS] Packetloss between GigaPOP and Onvoy/Zayo Mike@Arvig and I have been troubleshooting an issue since yesterday that seems like it's going to fit this thread as well. By the looks of my graphs the problem seems to clear up during low-traffic times. Does anyone have a good feel for when the issue started? Anthony Anderberg Sr. Systems Analyst 320-234-5239 anthonyanderberg(a)nu-telecom.net -----Original Message----- From: MICE Discuss [mailto:MICE-DISCUSS@LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET] On Behalf Of Frank DiGravina Sent: Friday, August 17, 2012 2:09 PM To: MICE-DISCUSS(a)LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET Subject: Re: [MICE-DISCUSS] Packetloss between GigaPOP and Onvoy/Zayo We also have a case with Zayo on behalf of a State of Mn connector whose traffic is losing -20% of their packets. When Zayo Bandwidth resolves our issue, it may resolve yours. Cordially, Frank Sent from my iPhone On Aug 17, 2012, at 1:45 PM, Jeremy Lumby <jlumby(a)MNVOIP.COM> wrote: > I have a customer who's ISP is TTM and they are buying from Zayo, as well as Level3. My route to and from them is currently going through MICE to the GigaPOP to Onvoy/Zayo to TTM. I am experiencing about 4% packet loss to them when I take this route, as opposed to going across Level3 to get to them is clean. I can cleanly get to 69.147.218.51 however the next hop of 192.35.86.49 is showing the same 4% packet loss that I am seeing to my end customer. Can anyone help clean up this link. I love the low latency (approx 2ms) to them, however the loss is not acceptable. > > Thanks, > Jeremy > > ###################################################################### > ## > > To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: > http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1 ######################################################################## To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1 ######################################################################## To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1 ######################################################################## To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1 ######################################################################## To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1

Aug. 17, 2012

Re: Packetloss between GigaPOP and Onvoy/Zayo

by Jeremy Lumby

I have a feeling it has been going on for months, today is just the first I have spent some time to gather some concrete evidence -----Original Message----- From: MICE Discuss [mailto:MICE-DISCUSS@LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET] On Behalf Of Anthony Anderberg Sent: Friday, August 17, 2012 2:51 PM To: MICE-DISCUSS(a)LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET Subject: Re: [MICE-DISCUSS] Packetloss between GigaPOP and Onvoy/Zayo Mike@Arvig and I have been troubleshooting an issue since yesterday that seems like it's going to fit this thread as well. By the looks of my graphs the problem seems to clear up during low-traffic times. Does anyone have a good feel for when the issue started? Anthony Anderberg Sr. Systems Analyst 320-234-5239 anthonyanderberg(a)nu-telecom.net -----Original Message----- From: MICE Discuss [mailto:MICE-DISCUSS@LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET] On Behalf Of Frank DiGravina Sent: Friday, August 17, 2012 2:09 PM To: MICE-DISCUSS(a)LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET Subject: Re: [MICE-DISCUSS] Packetloss between GigaPOP and Onvoy/Zayo We also have a case with Zayo on behalf of a State of Mn connector whose traffic is losing -20% of their packets. When Zayo Bandwidth resolves our issue, it may resolve yours. Cordially, Frank Sent from my iPhone On Aug 17, 2012, at 1:45 PM, Jeremy Lumby <jlumby(a)MNVOIP.COM> wrote: > I have a customer who's ISP is TTM and they are buying from Zayo, as well as Level3. My route to and from them is currently going through MICE to the GigaPOP to Onvoy/Zayo to TTM. I am experiencing about 4% packet loss to them when I take this route, as opposed to going across Level3 to get to them is clean. I can cleanly get to 69.147.218.51 however the next hop of 192.35.86.49 is showing the same 4% packet loss that I am seeing to my end customer. Can anyone help clean up this link. I love the low latency (approx 2ms) to them, however the loss is not acceptable. > > Thanks, > Jeremy > > ###################################################################### > ## > > To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: > http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1 ######################################################################## To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1 ######################################################################## To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1 ######################################################################## To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1

Aug. 17, 2012

Re: Packetloss between GigaPOP and Onvoy/Zayo

by Anthony Anderberg

Mike@Arvig and I have been troubleshooting an issue since yesterday that seems like it's going to fit this thread as well. By the looks of my graphs the problem seems to clear up during low-traffic times. Does anyone have a good feel for when the issue started? Anthony Anderberg Sr. Systems Analyst 320-234-5239 anthonyanderberg(a)nu-telecom.net -----Original Message----- From: MICE Discuss [mailto:MICE-DISCUSS@LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET] On Behalf Of Frank DiGravina Sent: Friday, August 17, 2012 2:09 PM To: MICE-DISCUSS(a)LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET Subject: Re: [MICE-DISCUSS] Packetloss between GigaPOP and Onvoy/Zayo We also have a case with Zayo on behalf of a State of Mn connector whose traffic is losing -20% of their packets. When Zayo Bandwidth resolves our issue, it may resolve yours. Cordially, Frank Sent from my iPhone On Aug 17, 2012, at 1:45 PM, Jeremy Lumby <jlumby(a)MNVOIP.COM> wrote: > I have a customer who's ISP is TTM and they are buying from Zayo, as well as Level3. My route to and from them is currently going through MICE to the GigaPOP to Onvoy/Zayo to TTM. I am experiencing about 4% packet loss to them when I take this route, as opposed to going across Level3 to get to them is clean. I can cleanly get to 69.147.218.51 however the next hop of 192.35.86.49 is showing the same 4% packet loss that I am seeing to my end customer. Can anyone help clean up this link. I love the low latency (approx 2ms) to them, however the loss is not acceptable. > > Thanks, > Jeremy > > ###################################################################### > ## > > To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: > http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1 ######################################################################## To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1 ######################################################################## To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1

Aug. 17, 2012

Re: Packetloss between GigaPOP and Onvoy/Zayo

by Mike Horwath

On Fri, Aug 17, 2012 at 02:10:22PM -0500, Richard Laager wrote: > I didn't personally verify the reports of packet loss, but I sent a > message to the Zayo IP NOC to give them a heads-up on the issue. Would you share the output when/if you get some? -- Mike Horwath ipHouse - Welcome home! drechsau(a)iphouse.net The universe is an island, surrounded by whatever it is that surrounds universes. - Berkeley Fortune ######################################################################## To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1

Aug. 17, 2012

Re: Packetloss between GigaPOP and Onvoy/Zayo

by Richard Laager

On Fri, 2012-08-17 at 14:06 -0500, Steve Howard wrote: > I'm glad that you mentioned this. We received a call yesterday from a > State of MN customer who was experiencing trouble also with traffic > to/from the GigaPOP via Onvoy/Zayo. They also saw trouble at > 192.35.86.49. Seems something is broken there... I didn't personally verify the reports of packet loss, but I sent a message to the Zayo IP NOC to give them a heads-up on the issue. -- Richard ######################################################################## To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1

Aug. 17, 2012