May 2011 - mice-discuss - lists.micemn.net

Re: Next MICE UG

by Mike Horwath

On 5/12/11 4:03 PM, "Jay Hanke" <jayhanke(a)MANKATONETWORKS.NET> wrote: >I was disappointed last time with the turnout at the social. If there >are things we can do to improve the participation at the social please >let me know! I think the social would go better if it were a place where everyone could be more together. And beer. -- Mike Horwath ipHouse - Welcome home! drechsau(a)iphouse.net The universe is an island, surrounded by whatever it is that surrounds universes. - Berkeley Fortune ######################################################################## To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1

May 13, 2011

Looking Glass / Route Server for MICE

by Justin Krejci

As I understand it there is currently no public looking glass or route server for MICE users or the public in general. Any interest in setting something up? I could donate a server or some time to the cause. They are quite useful in troubleshooting routing issues or network changes. Sent via BlackBerry from T-Mobile ######################################################################## To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1

May 12, 2011

Re: Next MICE UG

by Owen DeLong

On May 12, 2011, at 2:03 PM, Jay Hanke wrote: > The time has come to begin planning the next UG. I think having the > speaker at the last meeting was a huge success. > Why thank you. I enjoyed it as well. Owen ######################################################################## To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1

May 12, 2011

Juniper EX Training/Staging

by Jay Hanke

All, Juniper will be coming to Minneapolis June 2nd at 2 PM to give technical training on the new core MICE switches. The training will be in Minneapolis. If you're interested in attending please email me so I can make sure there is enough space. Thanks, Jay ######################################################################## To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1

May 12, 2011

Next MICE UG

by Jay Hanke

The time has come to begin planning the next UG. I think having the speaker at the last meeting was a huge success. Does anyone have ideas for speakers or topics? I heard Root DNS talked about. I also heard MN Internet History talked about... Also, it might be worthwhile to give some short network introductions. Maybe 2 or 3 participants each meeting? I was disappointed last time with the turnout at the social. If there are things we can do to improve the participation at the social please let me know! Thanks! Jay ######################################################################## To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1

May 12, 2011

Re: Recruitment / Advertising to MICE

by Jeff Bartig

Hello, Comcast does have a very restrictive peering policy. They also made the decision a couple years ago to pull out of all of the public exchanges across the country and will now only peer over private interconnects at facilities like Equinix. From their peeringdb page: "We do not offer SFI on the shared fabric public switches at any IX." I know the peering coordinator at Comcast (Ren Provo). We've set up peering between WiscNet and some of her past employers. Her more recent employers (SBC, AT&T, now Comcast) have all had more restrictive policies. Comcast has refused to peer with WiscNet at Equinix, even if we pay for the cross-connect. Getting them to connect to MICE will be a challenge. Jeff On Thu, May 12, 2011 at 08:49:52AM -0500, Jay Hanke wrote: > Comcast requires at least 4 locations of interconnect across the US. > There are a couple of MICE members that likely meet their criteria. > They don't list Minneapolis as an option. If someone has a "real" > contact at Comcast please feel free to introduce MICE to them. > > http://www.comcast.com/peering/ > > Qwest is more Tier 1ish, but worth approaching so at least they are > aware there is an option in Minneapolis. > > Everyone, feel free to market the exchange. New members benefit everyone. > > Jay > > ######################################################################## > > To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: > http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1 -- Jeff Bartig | University of Wisconsin - Madison jeffb(a)doit.wisc.edu | Division of Information Technology (608) 262-8336 | Network Services/WAN Engineering/WiscNet GTalk/AIM/Yahoo: jbartig | ######################################################################## To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1

May 12, 2011

Re: Recruitment / Advertising to MICE

by Jay Hanke

On Wed, May 11, 2011 at 9:16 PM, Justin Krejci <jkrejci(a)usinternet.com> wrote: > Yes, both are at 511 already. I am sure Mike at FWR has contacts for most if > not all companies in the building. I don't mind approaching the contacts I > have already but would be more in a suggestive role than as an invitational > capacity as I don't quite feel I have, as a not-yet-connected participant, > jurisdiction to invite on behalf of MICE or to be able to highlight specific > benefits of MICE that they would find appealing. Though I suppose they > likely already have their own corporate peering policies defined. A quick > check on PeeringDB does not look good for the chances of either joining up > to a public exchange. I know Comcast makes a good deal off bilateral peering > arrangements; access to their nearly captive audience is worth a fair amount > to them I know, from first hand experience. Comcast requires at least 4 locations of interconnect across the US. There are a couple of MICE members that likely meet their criteria. They don't list Minneapolis as an option. If someone has a "real" contact at Comcast please feel free to introduce MICE to them. http://www.comcast.com/peering/ Qwest is more Tier 1ish, but worth approaching so at least they are aware there is an option in Minneapolis. Everyone, feel free to market the exchange. New members benefit everyone. Jay ######################################################################## To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1

May 12, 2011

Re: Recruitment / Advertising to MICE

by Justin Krejci

Yes, both are at 511 already. I am sure Mike at FWR has contacts for most if not all companies in the building. I don't mind approaching the contacts I have already but would be more in a suggestive role than as an invitational capacity as I don't quite feel I have, as a not-yet-connected participant, jurisdiction to invite on behalf of MICE or to be able to highlight specific benefits of MICE that they would find appealing. Though I suppose they likely already have their own corporate peering policies defined. A quick check on PeeringDB does not look good for the chances of either joining up to a public exchange. I know Comcast makes a good deal off bilateral peering arrangements; access to their nearly captive audience is worth a fair amount to them I know, from first hand experience. On Wed, 2011-05-11 at 21:03 -0500, Frank Bulk wrote: > Are Comcast and CenturyLink/Qwest at 511 already? If so, I’m sure > MICE members would have some contacts… > > > > Frank > > > > > From: MICE Discuss [mailto:MICE-DISCUSS@LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET] On Behalf > Of Justin Krejci > Sent: Wednesday, May 11, 2011 7:44 PM > To: MICE-DISCUSS(a)LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET > Subject: [MICE-DISCUSS] Recruitment / Advertising to MICE > > > > > > Hello List, > > US Internet is in the process of getting connected to the network. In > fact I plan to pop down to FWR this evening still and plug in the > cross connect on my way home. > > In any case I only became aware of MICE thru unrelated discussions > with WIN who mentioned it to me and passed me Jay's contact info which > brings me to the subject at hand, is there any effort or interest in > making a more official recruitment effort to get networks and > providers to join up? I realize MICE is still pretty new and fresh but > it strikes me it is only as useful as the networks that are > participating. I think it would be great if we got Comcast and Qwest > (CenturyLink, whatever) in particular to join up as they have big > local networks in town. > > I also scanned some of the archives and was interested in the whole > CDN participation idea. Any news on that at all with Akamai or others > for that matter? Also are there any plans on the table for future UG > meetings for MICE? > > > -Justin Krejci > > > > > > ______________________________________________________________________ > > To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: > http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1 > > > > > > ______________________________________________________________________ > > To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: > http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1 > ######################################################################## To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1

May 12, 2011

Re: Recruitment / Advertising to MICE

by Frank Bulk

Are Comcast and CenturyLink/Qwest at 511 already? If so, I’m sure MICE members would have some contacts… Frank From: MICE Discuss [mailto:MICE-DISCUSS@LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET] On Behalf Of Justin Krejci Sent: Wednesday, May 11, 2011 7:44 PM To: MICE-DISCUSS(a)LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET Subject: [MICE-DISCUSS] Recruitment / Advertising to MICE Hello List, US Internet is in the process of getting connected to the network. In fact I plan to pop down to FWR this evening still and plug in the cross connect on my way home. In any case I only became aware of MICE thru unrelated discussions with WIN who mentioned it to me and passed me Jay's contact info which brings me to the subject at hand, is there any effort or interest in making a more official recruitment effort to get networks and providers to join up? I realize MICE is still pretty new and fresh but it strikes me it is only as useful as the networks that are participating. I think it would be great if we got Comcast and Qwest (CenturyLink, whatever) in particular to join up as they have big local networks in town. I also scanned some of the archives and was interested in the whole CDN participation idea. Any news on that at all with Akamai or others for that matter? Also are there any plans on the table for future UG meetings for MICE? -Justin Krejci ________________________________ To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1 ######################################################################## To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1

May 12, 2011

Recruitment / Advertising to MICE

by Justin Krejci

Hello List, US Internet is in the process of getting connected to the network. In fact I plan to pop down to FWR this evening still and plug in the cross connect on my way home. In any case I only became aware of MICE thru unrelated discussions with WIN who mentioned it to me and passed me Jay's contact info which brings me to the subject at hand, is there any effort or interest in making a more official recruitment effort to get networks and providers to join up? I realize MICE is still pretty new and fresh but it strikes me it is only as useful as the networks that are participating. I think it would be great if we got Comcast and Qwest (CenturyLink, whatever) in particular to join up as they have big local networks in town. I also scanned some of the archives and was interested in the whole CDN participation idea. Any news on that at all with Akamai or others for that matter? Also are there any plans on the table for future UG meetings for MICE? -Justin Krejci ######################################################################## To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1

May 12, 2011