April 2011 - mice-discuss - lists.micemn.net

Re: Akamai IP address space

by Owen DeLong

None of the v6 waivers apply to end-user assignments. Does Akamai need a /48, or, could we just carve them out a /64? (I still favor the "get your own space, Akamai" approach for both.) Owen On Apr 15, 2011, at 5:29 PM, Jay Hanke wrote: > On Fri, Apr 15, 2011 at 7:24 PM, Ryan Goldberg <RGoldberg(a)compudyne.net> wrote: >> What's the fee? $1250 iirc? I've got a hondo on it... > > It's $1250 for end user v4. We need v6 as well, I think some of the > waivers are still in place. > > j > > ######################################################################## > > To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: > http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1 ######################################################################## To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1

April 16, 2011

Re: Akamai IP address space

by Jay Hanke

> Why can't Akamai apply for the address space themselves? The > critical infrastructure works the same way the MDN policy works. > Their space for MICE would not affect any other location. They should provide their own, actually, that's what I told them. I'm not recommending or direction, just evaluating out options. We will likely have other items were having a "community" /24 might be useful. > What am I missing? Why should we have to subsidize Akamai's > operations? If it was easy for us to provide I would be ok with letting them use some address space since there is a community benefit. But you're right it is an unnecessary subsidy. ######################################################################## To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1

April 16, 2011

Re: Steering Committee Candidates

by Mike Horwath

On 4/15/11 5:21 PM, "Jay Hanke" <jayhanke(a)MANKATONETWORKS.NET> wrote: >We have 3 unofficial candidates for the vacant steering committee slot: > >-Anthony Anderberg (New Ulm Telephone) >-David Farmer III-I* (University of Minnesota) >-Reid Fishler-(Hurricane Electric) > >Elections start as soon as Mike finishes the survey. We can still slip >you in if you're waiting until the last minute to put your name in >contention. Hurry up with more nominations, cause this will be locked very soon. -- Mike Horwath ipHouse - Welcome home! drechsau(a)iphouse.net The universe is an island, surrounded by whatever it is that surrounds universes. - Berkeley Fortune ######################################################################## To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1

April 16, 2011

Re: Akamai IP address space

by Ryan Goldberg

Agreed. I was actually surprised to learn that an Akamai cluster didn't just come with a /24. That said, I've spent $100 on far worse things.. Ryan ________________________________________ From: MICE Discuss [MICE-DISCUSS(a)LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET] on behalf of Owen DeLong [owend(a)HE.NET] Sent: Friday, April 15, 2011 7:26 PM To: MICE-DISCUSS(a)LISTS.IPHOUSE.NET Subject: Re: [MICE-DISCUSS] Akamai IP address space Yes, that is the fee for a /24 of IPv4 under current end-user CI policies. I still think it should be Akamai's application, addresses, and fees. Owen On Apr 15, 2011, at 5:24 PM, Ryan Goldberg wrote: > What's the fee? $1250 iirc? I've got a hondo on it... > > Ryan > > > > On Apr 15, 2011, at 7:21 PM, "Jay Hanke" <jayhanke(a)MANKATONETWORKS.NET> wrote: > >> On Fri, Apr 15, 2011 at 7:04 PM, Owen DeLong <owend(a)he.net> wrote: >>> I suggest applying to ARIN under Critical Infrastructure. >> >> That would by far be the best option. It's just difficult to line up >> donations to pay the initial fees. Maybe someone on the list will see >> this and make things happen. >> >> We're going to need to address the issue at some point. We're on >> borrowed address space right now. >> >> Jay >> >> ######################################################################## >> >> To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: >> http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1 >> > > ######################################################################## > > To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: > http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1 ######################################################################## To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1 ######################################################################## To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1

April 16, 2011

Re: Akamai IP address space

by Jay Hanke

On Fri, Apr 15, 2011 at 7:24 PM, Ryan Goldberg <RGoldberg(a)compudyne.net> wrote: > What's the fee? $1250 iirc? I've got a hondo on it... It's $1250 for end user v4. We need v6 as well, I think some of the waivers are still in place. j ######################################################################## To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1

April 16, 2011

Re: Akamai IP address space

by Owen DeLong

Yes, that is the fee for a /24 of IPv4 under current end-user CI policies. I still think it should be Akamai's application, addresses, and fees. Owen On Apr 15, 2011, at 5:24 PM, Ryan Goldberg wrote: > What's the fee? $1250 iirc? I've got a hondo on it... > > Ryan > > > > On Apr 15, 2011, at 7:21 PM, "Jay Hanke" <jayhanke(a)MANKATONETWORKS.NET> wrote: > >> On Fri, Apr 15, 2011 at 7:04 PM, Owen DeLong <owend(a)he.net> wrote: >>> I suggest applying to ARIN under Critical Infrastructure. >> >> That would by far be the best option. It's just difficult to line up >> donations to pay the initial fees. Maybe someone on the list will see >> this and make things happen. >> >> We're going to need to address the issue at some point. We're on >> borrowed address space right now. >> >> Jay >> >> ######################################################################## >> >> To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: >> http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1 >> > > ######################################################################## > > To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: > http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1 ######################################################################## To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1

April 16, 2011

Re: Akamai IP address space

by Owen DeLong

On Apr 15, 2011, at 5:21 PM, Jay Hanke wrote: > On Fri, Apr 15, 2011 at 7:04 PM, Owen DeLong <owend(a)he.net> wrote: >> I suggest applying to ARIN under Critical Infrastructure. > > That would by far be the best option. It's just difficult to line up > donations to pay the initial fees. Maybe someone on the list will see > this and make things happen. > > We're going to need to address the issue at some point. We're on > borrowed address space right now. > Why can't Akamai apply for the address space themselves? The critical infrastructure works the same way the MDN policy works. Their space for MICE would not affect any other location. What am I missing? Why should we have to subsidize Akamai's operations? Owen ######################################################################## To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1

April 16, 2011

Re: Akamai IP address space

by Ryan Goldberg

What's the fee? $1250 iirc? I've got a hondo on it... Ryan On Apr 15, 2011, at 7:21 PM, "Jay Hanke" <jayhanke(a)MANKATONETWORKS.NET> wrote: > On Fri, Apr 15, 2011 at 7:04 PM, Owen DeLong <owend(a)he.net> wrote: >> I suggest applying to ARIN under Critical Infrastructure. > > That would by far be the best option. It's just difficult to line up > donations to pay the initial fees. Maybe someone on the list will see > this and make things happen. > > We're going to need to address the issue at some point. We're on > borrowed address space right now. > > Jay > > ######################################################################## > > To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: > http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1 > ######################################################################## To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1

April 16, 2011

Re: Akamai IP address space

by Jay Hanke

On Fri, Apr 15, 2011 at 7:04 PM, Owen DeLong <owend(a)he.net> wrote: > I suggest applying to ARIN under Critical Infrastructure. That would by far be the best option. It's just difficult to line up donations to pay the initial fees. Maybe someone on the list will see this and make things happen. We're going to need to address the issue at some point. We're on borrowed address space right now. Jay ######################################################################## To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1

April 16, 2011

Re: Akamai IP address space

by Owen DeLong

I suggest applying to ARIN under Critical Infrastructure. Owen On Apr 15, 2011, at 1:21 PM, Jay Hanke wrote: > Can anyone donate/lend a /24 of IPv4 address space for Akamai to use > to connect to MICE? > > Why a 24? We need to advertise the block out to the Internet to feed > the cluster with content. It will also allow multiple parties to > contribute bandwidth to the cluster. > > Jay > > ######################################################################## > > To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: > http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1 ######################################################################## To unsubscribe from the MICE-DISCUSS list, click the following link: http://lists.iphouse.net/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=MICE-DISCUSS&A=1

April 16, 2011